Don't be dumb, Sup Forums. believe in god

don't be dumb, Sup Forums. believe in god.

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Believing is easy, living righteously is where we fuck up

No thanks I'm not into superstition

i will when you prove he exists

I'm intelligent, therefore I am Atheist.

LOL
open your mind and you'll find that you're god
stupid inbred

>having imaginary psychopathic friends

Grow up

why is god a voyeur?
stop being a pervert and looking at us when we are naked god.

Yup. It's very hard now. Almost like society has been designed to make us stray.

God can find you, but you won't find God in organized religion.

You'll be like one of these fatties that think that they're making progress by drinking diet soda while still gorging on burgers left and right.

They're not dumb; their hearts are dark, and their deeds are evil, and they think they can hide from God in their darkness.

They are not dumb; they are dead.

Please describe your search of the multiverse for God.

Thanks.

Growing up is realizing that you are not the center of the universe, and you are not the most intelligent being in the world.

That's what growing up means.

Prove he is real.
>inb4 muh bible
written by humans; no proof if was "divinely inspired". Human claim

No, that's just being realistic.

Wishful hoping that a paternal authority figure exists outside your mind to guide your every action is immature, lazy and irresponsible.

Yes, growing up has something to do with becoming realistic.

Like figuring out that the creation infers a Creator.

But I like to masturbate and eat meat on Friday.

Define righteousness

Believing in things without evidence is a quintessential behavior of dumb people, this is a fact.

Hilarious how retards here consider themselves to be "high iq" but believe in "redpills" and "god"

Dunning krugger effect at full throttle

Pic related, "god" detected the levels of stupidity in this thread

To be perfect, as God in heaven is perfect.

>hide sin from god
what is this meme?

Does the universe exist?

The evidence of the creator of the universe exists.

>Growing up is realizing that you are not the center of the universe, and you are not the most intelligent being in the world.
Wrong. If that was the case I'd be a grown up at the age of 8

How do you know what god wants? Surely he wants his creations to enjoy themselves and kill each other in homage to him.

Panendeism, Pantheism, Panentheism, Pandeism, Atheism, Agnosticism, Zen Buddhism.

These are the only logical spiritual systems.

You need to believe in the same fairytales as me or we're not friends anymore!

That's too bad. No meat on Wednesday and Friday. And you shouldn't masterbate.

And even as a believer of God you hit a logical stop with the idea that God doesn't need a creator.

>Creation infers a Creator

You're calling it "Creation" to satisfy your argument.
Where's the evidence anything was "created"? Existence just is. Postulating a halfassed reason like a magical spacefairy because someone else told you so is, I insist, lazy and immature.

The occasional thought wank isn't harmful. Humans are animals, why deny our nature. Surely embracing the violent animal is true transcendence.

When your mommy and daddy were still wiping your nose?

I don't think so.

Same way you could know, if you were interested.

christians are basically the smug fedora tippers these days, let's face it

>Does the universe exist?
Define "exist", nothing can "exist" without an observer, and we might as well all be a bunch of brains in jars simulating an universe in a lan party.

>The evidence of the creator of the universe exists
How so?

>creation infers a Creator.
Semantic trickery. Words don't make things real, they just describe things either real or imaginary.

There are many ways that seem right to a man, but they all end in death.

>organized religion is bad
It's not "being orgnaized" that's bad. It's that the most organized religions lost track of what it's all about, rather than just existing to continue to exist. Roman catholicism is a geat example for that. Many good things but also a lot of heresy to simply continue existing. But other than that, in the end it (everything) comes down to living a virtuous life, being conpassionate - a good man or woman - and doing the right thing. That's even part of the fedoras' new favourite baby, Germanic paganism. And that's already it.
Sure, you - in theory - can't reach Heaven by being pagan. But it also is stated that people which didn't accept Christ can still come to salvation if they still live a Christ-like life, and without blasphemy or heresy.
The point with this is simply this: I am orthodox Christian and I accepted dogma fully. But we - and that goes also for the clergy as well, of course - are humans. We are falliabe. And most importantly - it is not on us to judge, because everyone will be held accountable on judgement day by God.

Your definition of what it is to be a grown up is lacking is all I'm saying. Trying to define it at all is juvenile.

I don't have a problem with facts. God being an eternal being and not a created being is just a fact.

Universe infers universe maker then, if your sensibilities are offended by calling the creator of the universe the Creator.

So if there were no human beings alive, the universe would not exist.

Just amazing thinking, you "rationalists" have.

Yes, and Creator of the Universe describes God.

Too bad I did not attempt to define "grown up".

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why create ANOTHER thread after getting destroyed AGAIN! Just keep making them!

I won't ever believe God decided to put us on this ridiculously small planet that is Earth, around a ridiculously small star that is the Sun, all out of the entire immensity of the universe.

However I recognize the moral values brought by Christianity.

>growing up is realizing blah blah
What did you try to define exactly?

>So if there were no human beings alive, the universe would not exist.
>Just amazing thinking, you "rationalists" have.

Indeed, you're arguing that Spanish, English, or Math as we know it would "exist" even if humans didn't inhabit the universe. Existence implies some form of observation or interaction, it is a requirement of it.

>religioustard "logic"

Nice job defining "existence", btw, brainlet.

>However I recognize the moral values brought by Christianity.
Define moral.

He didn't put us here; He made this place for us.

Look into the fine tuning of the universe for life.

No, it doesn't.
And even then, it is extremely selfish and childish to believe your specific imaginary friend is the one who created all of the universe, when there's hundreds of different deities throughout mankind's history. Also, considering other similar civilizations exist in the universe, there's no assurance they believe the same garbage you do, much less have any notion or reason for it.

That as an infant, a tyrant who cried when he was hungry, cold, wet, upset, thirsty, lonely, etc., believing he is the center of the universe, as a man grows up (and I use man to mean man, not male) he begins to realize that not only is he not the center of the universe, but that there is a center of the universe that is not him, but Jesus.

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You're an evolutionist who believes the universe is 14 billion years old, mankind is 200,000 years old, and yet the 14 billion year old universe did not exist until 200,000 years ago, when the first monkey man observed it.

You have a long way to go to be of average IQ.

>Like figuring out that the creation infers a Creator.
And Manichean metaphysical entities like Satan, gods wanting worship, answering prayers, hating the earth and nature, caring about some dirt farmer's blasphemy, etc. are non-sequiturs.

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>Why do people care about berating an increasingly irrelevant religion anyway?
Because they're not irrelevant. They actively fund and even run many of the boats coming from Africa to Europe.

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A painting infers a painter.
A building infers a builder.
Coding infers a coder.
Creation infers a creator.

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>the son of Amminadab, the son of Ram, the son of Hezron, the son of Perez, the son of Judah

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>For it is clear that our Lord descended from Judah

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>He was teaching in their synagogues, and everyone praised him.
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>He came to his own people, and even they rejected him.

His own people aka Jews.

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>You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews.

Samaritans aka Gentiles.

JESUS WAS A JEW.

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>Konrad Hermann Joseph Adenauer was a German statesman who served as the first post-war Chancellor of Germany (West Germany) from 1949 to 1963.
>He was the first leader of the Christian Democratic Union (CDU), a Christian Democratic party that under his leadership became, and has since usually been the most influential party in the country.
>He displayed a strong dedication to a broad vision of market-based liberal democracy and anti-communism.
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>West Germany joined NATO in 1955
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>is the President of Germany, serving since March 2012. A former Lutheran pastor, he came to prominence as an anti-communist civil rights activist in East Germany
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>the daughter of Horst Kasner, a Lutheran pastor and a native of Berlin, and his wife Herlind, born in 1928 in Danzig (now Gdańsk, Poland)
>is a German politician who is currently Chancellor of Germany. She is also the leader of the Christian Democratic Union (CDU).
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>From 1979, as an advocate of 'open societies', Soros financially supported dissidents including Poland's Solidarity movement
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>first trade union in a Warsaw Pact country that was not controlled by a communist party.
>anti-Soviet social movement ranging from people associated with the Catholic Church
>CIA covert support
>In Sollicitudo rei socialis, a major document of Catholic Social Teaching, Pope John Paul II identifies the concept of solidarity with the poor and marginalized as a constitutive element of the Gospel and human participation in the common good.

More like, there never been more churches, while Christian Democrats didn't even exist in Socialism. Pro-refugee faggots are all Christian.

To the contrary, everything is related.

LMFAO confederate.

Don't be dumb, /po/. THink for yourself and don't be sheep.

>The Jews thought (and think) that they are God's chosen people, but when Jesus came and said: "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus", the Jews claimed He couldn't be their Messiah, so they convinced Pontio to crucify Him. Is exactly because Jesus was for all humanity and not only for the Jews that (((they))) killed Him, and since that moment, every nation in the entire globe see Jews as a negative influence to any country they appear in. And with good reason, every Catholic / Christian nation up until Vatican II and some decades before, had prohibition or persecution of Jews.

You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews.

For it is clear that our Lord descended from Judah, and in regard to that tribe Moses said nothing about priests.

John 4:31 – In the meantime His talmidim (“students, disciples”) urged Him, saying, “Rabbi, eat.”
John 3:1-2 – This man came to Yeshua (“Jesus”) by night and said to Him, “Rabbi, we know that You are a teacher come from God; for no one can do these signs that You do unless God is with him.”

John 6:25 – And when they found Him on the other side of the lake, they said to Him, “Rabbi, when did You come here?”

John 4:9 – Then the woman of Samaria said to Him, “How is it that You, being a Jew, ask a drink from me, a Samaritan woman?”…

It's the atheists who are pursuing the cuckolding of their wives, not Christians.

I strayed in my teens because I had to deal with the realization that large blessings don't happen when you want them to. They happen at just the right moment when you really need them. I strayed for a few years but realized that it's alright if I don't know everything. I'm still going to try to learn as much as I can. Even if I don't know when every small blessing is going to come I can always recognize when He's helping me out. He lines things up just right so it appears as though it's coincidence. My anecdote for this is a lady who bought me Zima after I was miring it in the gas station. She had no concern for whether or not I had money and only gave me being a good person as her reason for buying it for me. Never saw her again or before.

I think the problem isn't belief it's the relationship. Too many people have formed a bond with their church or the members in it. While that's all well and good it can keep you from discerning the right message. The bible is full of good teachings you can gain daily wisdom and strength from. Even if you want to believe it's all bullshit you can still read it and think about what it's trying to tell you. Over the years I can't say I've ever had a good relationship with a church or the members. I've always had a great one with the big man upstairs though. I've never had to hide anything from him or try to deceive him like I do everyone else in my life. He knows that I struggle daily and that I don't need him to interfere to get along in life. I need not worry about being chastised or berated by him for my actions because he knows why I'm doing it. As well I don't need to repent yet. Repentance is a vow to the highest that you'll be a good boi and not fuck up anymore. To have the strength to avoid temptation. It's something I faltered at for a few things but I've always maintained being a good person. One day I'll repent for the shit I've done when I can say for sure I won't do it again.
Get gud with god.

Greater Israel occasionally refers to the Promised Land (defined in Genesis 15:18-21) or to the Land of Israel, also called Complete Land of Israel or Entire Land of Israel (Hebrew: ארץ ישראל השלמה, Eretz Yisrael Hashlemah). This is a more accurate translation than “Greater Israel”, which is used in English but has no real counterpart in Hebrew.

"No one in Israel should ever be poor. The Lord your God is giving you this land, and he has promised to make you very successful, if you obey his laws and teachings that I’m giving you today."

"You will lend money to many nations, but you won’t have to borrow. You will rule many nations, but they won’t rule you."

The bible is quite pro jew. (((Yahweh))) promises the jews GREATER ISRAEL FFS

you are joking right?

Turn the other cheek is mistranslated/misinterpreted meme: This is not true whatsoever. There are MANY (too many to list) verses in the Bible that are anti-European and anti-Aryan.
>When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. (Leviticus 19:33-34)
>Do not oppress a foreigner; you yourselves know how it feels to be foreigners, because you were foreigners in Egypt. (Exodus 23:9)
>There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. (Galatians 3:28)

Reminder that Christianity is the thing the Rothschilds and their Freemason, Illuminati agents have sought to destroy most these past few hundred years.

Yes, that is correct.
The Seed of a Woman
The Seed of Abraham
The Root of David
The Lion of the Tribe of Judah
The King of the Jews

You might say Jesus is the Jew, not a Jew.

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You know a painting has a painter because you can actively reproduce the process.

>"I can't explain it and am afraid of admitting I do not know or contemplating other possibilities, so: GOD!"
You're fucking lazy.

>implying we care about you

Correct, many people knew Jesus only as rabbi. Judas was one of them.

If all Jesus is to you is a teacher of some sorts, you do not know Jesus at all.

Ironically, your hatred of Jews will place in in hell with the worst of the Jews, forever. And keep you away from the best of the Jews, transformed and glorified by God.

he is the JEW.

Not even a little bit. Mormons are not Christians. Neither are Catholics or Orthodox.

>But it also is stated that people which didn't accept Christ can still come to salvation if they still live a Christ-like life, and without blasphemy or heresy.

ayo ayo, hol up. Who said this? It IS impossible to come to Salvation if you didnt accept Christ. As Scripture says "Nobody comes to the father except through me." John 14:6

Do you mean if those who had never heard about Christ but still lived a righteous Christlike life? Well, yes. Christ did royally harrow Hell when he went down there as a BOSS to preach the Gospel and take the rigtheous (Moses and prophetes etc) with him to Heaven after his crucifixion.

However, in this day and age, everybody has heard about Christ. So no excuses for not proclaiming him Lord.

Kids believe in fairytales

Christianity is globalist shit religion made to control goyim.

We don't have to believe in god if he was real.
Checkmate.

That would be regarding legal immigration, which was permitted in Israel.

>implying that this thread was only to convince christians to be christians

Are you a fucking autist, or just dense as hell? The whole point of this was to convert atheists. So yes, at least OP cares about him.

ACKSHULLY MUH 3 GROUP OF FRIENDS ON CIRRPLECHAN!

The alien is a foreigner, or person born in another country, and therefore not entitled to the rights and privileges of the country where he resides. Among the Hebrews there were two classes of aliens. First, those who were strangers generally, and who owned no landed property. Second, strangers dwelling in another country without being naturalized ( Leviticus 22:10 ; Psalms 39:12 ).

Both of these classes were to enjoy, under certain conditions, the same rights as other citizens ( Leviticus 19:33 Leviticus 19:34 ; Deuteronomy 10:19 ). They might be naturalized and permitted to enter into the congregation of the Lord by submitting to circumcision and abandoning idolatry ( Deuteronomy 23:3-8 ).

Yup, and they never will. Right when they think they have won, all hell will break loose and the full wrath of God will be poured down upon the earth.

They may hide under the mountains and beg the mountains to shield them from the wrath of the Lamb, but they will not be safe, anywhere.

When the Day of the Wrath of the Lamb comes, none shall stand.

>You're an evolutionist who believes the universe is 14 billion years old, mankind is 200,000 years old, and yet the 14 billion year old universe did not exist until 200,000 years ago, when the first monkey man observed it.

That's not an argument you're strawmaning and making a reductionist argument, we know the universe is older than 200,000 years because we can observe evidence of such a fact.

In the example you provided, you claimed that the universe could "exist" without an observer (humans), I don't see how this makes sense, existence itself implies observation, whether it's observation of past or current events.

>You have a long way to go to be of average IQ.
That's a really unreliable assessment, considering your poor literal and reductionist interpretation of my argument

Again you've failed to define "existence", you're evading that argument because you know you're gonna fuck yourself up the ass.

In the New Testament, this limitation of moral obligation to fellow-countrymen is abolished. Christ gives a wider interpretation of the commandment in Leviticus 19:18, so as to include in it those outside the tie of nation or kindred. This is definitely done in the parable of the Good Samaritan (Luke 10:25-37), where, in answer to the question, “Who is my neighbor?” Jesus shows that the relationship is a moral, not a physical one, based not on kinship but on the opportunity and capacity for mutual help. The word represents, not so much a rigid fact, but an ideal which one may or may not realize (Luke 10:36, “Which of these three, thinkest thou, proved (literally, became, not was) neighbor,” etc.). This larger connotation follows naturally as a corollary to the doctrine of the universal Fatherhood of God.

If you were as God, you too could actively reproduce the process.

IQ 145 in official Mensa-approved test. M.Sc. in chemistry as well as theoretical physics. PhD in theoretical chemistry. Orthodox Christian.

Your logic is so flawed, I ca't believe it. How is "being dumb" related to "believing something which cannot be proven" ? Flat earth theory is dumb shit, because we can prove mathematically, physically as well as visually that the earth ain't flat.
Believing that God exists, created the universe (and who knows what else outside of our own physical realm), became flesh from a the Holy Mother Mary as Christ, having died to literally pay for our sins and offering us the gift of defeating death, is perfectly fine. It is something we cannot find a proof for - supernaturally speaking - but definitely historically. Evolution theory actually reinforces that. It is not lazy and irresponsible. It's the deep need of humans, having this developed of a mind, to have something greater than them, because We tend to fall for nihilistic views. Why continue to multiply ? Because we have genitalia and the "biological urge ? Or why an almighty Creator made us and demanded us to - which maybe is expressed as this very biological drive ? Why would you be compassionate and comfort/help others ? Because it helps your race to exist on ? Or because you can make your life valuable for yourself and others and in addition to that conquer death ?

I'm not saying "BELIEVE IN THE TRINITARIAN GOD !!!!!". I'm saying your argument against God - or Buddha-nature if you're into that - is retardation, beause you cannot explain scientifically inexplicable things with "human reason and logic".

The commandment to love one’s neighbor as one’s self must not be interpreted as if it implied that we are to hate our enemy (an inference which the jews were apt to make); human love should be like the Divine, impartial, having all men for its object (Matthew 5:43). Love to one’s fellow-men in this broad sense to be placed side by side with love to God as the essence and sum of human duty (Matthew 22:35-40 parallel Mark 12:28-31). Christ’s apostles follow His example in giving a central position to the injunction to love one’s neighbor as one’s self (James 2:8, where is is called the “royal law” i.e. the supreme or governing law; Romans 13:9 Galatians 5:14).

A foreigner is a person from a different racial, ethnic, and linguistic group as in contrast to a “native.” Circumstances during biblical times often forced people to emigrate to another country, where they would become “resident aliens” (see Gen 19:9 ; Ruth 1:1 ). A less permanent settler was known as a “stranger” or “temporary resident.” Sometimes the term “foreigner” is used to translate a Hebrew word that generally means an “outsider” from a different race, tribe, or family.

Yes, He is.

isn't it amazing out of the entire observable universe, we are the only known intelligent life? Maybe thats why if there is a god, he can narrow down his sight line.

The prophets predicted that all nations would go up to Jerusalem to learn the Torah and depart changed people, no longer alienated from each other ( Isa 2:1-4 ; Micah 4:1-5 ). There would be one humanity ( Isa 19:23-25 ), speaking a purified language ( Zep 3:9 ). Although Israel received a residence in the promised land, she was reminded that the land was God’s and that he allowed her to settle on it as a resident alien ( Lev 25:23 ; cf. 1 Chron 29:15 ; Psalm 39:12 ; 119:19 ). Israel must wait for a true home.

This.

In general I would agree with that.

Your inference that the bible contains fairy tales is false.

By the time of the New Testament, Israel had become extremely exclusive, largely forgetting her mission to the nations. When the Messiah arrived, however, foreigners were present ( Matt 2:1-12 ). During his ministry, he constantly interacted with them, indicating that God’s love embraced the world ( Luke 17:18 ; John 4 ). A Roman soldier pronounced a eulogy at his death ( Luke 23:47 ). Death broke the hostile powers that caused human divisions ( Eph 2:14-18 ). In Christ there was no longer any important racial, linguistic, or ethnic difference ( Gal 3:26-29 ). Pentecost ( Acts 2 ) reversed the judgment of the tower of Babel ( Gen 11:1-9 ).

*Of the ego for sure.

That isn't a fact. As the existence of a God is not fact. Dont just say "Yes it is". Prove it.

At the same time, there was the realization that while members of the church had their citizenship in heaven, they were resident aliens on earth ( 1 Peter 1:17 ; 2:11 ). Before the coming of the kingdom, they had to live a nomadic existence as strangers and pilgrims, much like the patriarchs of the Old Testament ( Heb 11:9-16 ). They must live in hope and faith, praying for the invasion of the kingdom and waiting patiently for the gift of a new Canaan, a new Eden, where they can reside with their God (Rev. 21-22). Meanwhile the church must act by helping literal strangers and foreigners, remembering her own identity and God’s love for the powerless ( Matthew 25:35Matthew 25:38Matthew 25:43Matthew 25:44 ). Hospitality (philoxenos, lit. love for the stranger) is to be a characteristic of the follower of Christ ( 1 Peter 4:9 ; cf. Rom 12:13 ; Heb 13:2 ).

Christianity is the recognition that God, Jesus, came down to earth to redeem His creation from its fall by dying on a cross bearing the sins of mankind, and then rising from the dead.