Something I've always wanted to know is, from a Christian perspective anyway, where did all the pagans go when they died before Yahweh revealed himself to them? Did he purposely not reveal himself, have these people die then send them to hell? That sounds pretty fucked.
The afterlife as you know it doesn't exist, you only stay in the afterlife for a set number of year then you are reincarnated as one of you descendants. Welcome, we need more slavic pagans in the discord
Benjamin Martin
nice threada
Jordan Green
Why is that one guy spitting on her?
James Sanders
yo guys let's talk about the Kali Yuga
Gabriel Campbell
I mean it in the sense that, as everyone is told at some stage, you have to be a christian to be "saved." But if Christ only existed roughly 2000 years ago and paganism is centuries older, where do Christians think pagans go? It's such a strange thought.
Logan Cook
>implying ancestor worship and guarding the sacred fire isn't the one true Patrician religion
Wyatt Kelly
In a dream I had, Odin or someone similar was angry that I had needlessly sacrificed humans and "wasted their flesh" (something current me would never dream of doing normally) so he put a horrible winter into all the land and people around were visibly mortified by this.
He (God) then showed me a deep "ocean" of darkness and explained I would be spending quite a while there.
....WTF does this mean? I wasn't even remotely interested in understanding Norse mythology until this dream occurred a couple weeks ago.
Blake Powell
>yo guys let's talk about the Kali Yuga Definitely,
Rulers will become unreasonable: they will levy taxes unfairly. Rulers will no longer see it as their duty to promote spirituality, or to protect their subjects: they will become a danger to the world. People will start migrating, seeking countries where wheat and barley form the staple food source. People will have thoughts of murder with no justification and will see nothing wrong in that. Lust will be viewed as socially acceptable and sexual intercourse will be seen as the central requirement of life. Sin will increase exponentially, while virtue will fade and cease to flourish. People will take vows and break them soon after. People will become addicted to intoxicating drinks and drugs.
We are currently living in the Kali Yuga, the best way to live through it as people of virtue is to find like minded people, avoid this (((modern society))) and contribute to it's collapse. The Kali Yuga was destined to happen, so let's work to finish it faster.
Elijah Howard
The Kali Yuga, or the Iron Age is the last age of the world and the worst age.
Those with faith and virtue will find it extremely hard to live in this age.
But after this Yuga, this age, the world will become renewed and a new Golden age will sprout from the ashes.
Joshua Wood
>eryone is told at some stage, you have to be a christian to be "saved." But if Christ only existed roughly 2000 years ago and paganism is centuries older, where do Christians think pagans go? It's such a strang
Most Christian believe that Pagan go to hell.
Jose Reed
it's ending in 2025 >But after this Yuga, this age, the world will become renewed and a new Golden age will sprout from the ashes. no we will enter in another Iron Age
Justin Brooks
>He (God) then showed me a deep "ocean" of darkness and explained I would be spending quite a while there. Uhh, this is very strange. Do you live life with virtue? This doesn't seem like the realm Hel to me.
Jose Brown
Why do you think Christ descended into he'll after his crucifixion? It was to save the souls of those who died before his arrival.
Hudson Sanders
O wondrous little green glade Covered in dewdrops from mother moon On Odins Oak drinking my minute-maid Such is the pagan way, you poon Hailing the gods seven times seven While diddling the lads behind the 7/11
-Thora Windleaf
Isaiah King
700bc was probably the maximum extent of Aryan conquest. Where did you get that chart from? So (((God))) who is omnipotent let them burn for thousands of years. This is just some shit Christians made up so that they could convert people easier, they need to have that hell boogeyman to stop people from leaving their faith.
Hunter Cooper
LOL
Isaac Kelly
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Jace Harris
My heathen greeting for I am old now
Wildfowl whispered on marshland like maidens around burning fires, The Norse winds breathing in my soul ‘Odin doth call’ Blood is the sweat of this iron sword; proud are war smiths I watch the coal biter musing in blood damp earth, Before a fire and smoke of tallow he dreams of war
Fill these horns to brim, for I shall drink to Odin’s law And eat I this meal of bread oyster and mussel shell I see heavens stained blood red clouds as we cross the rainbow crystal bridge, we shall enter Valhalla victorious once more,
Lo shall they bleed at shores blooded by iron the Saxons fall, Raged fires shall consume their roof as thunder of north comes forth You call us damned that which pierces dark shadows, We blow our horn in assembly before Odin warriors of the north
Settings suns shone red as quiet falls, serene I see Valhalla the goat and mead hall, roasting beef and herring I no longer fear drowning suns for the Valkyries sweet song I do hear Freyja shall breathe my new reign at dawn
The old wars are over but our fight shall ne’er end,
Lo I see my father
-Astral Najer
Colton Sanders
This Yuga Cycle timeline takes the beginning of the Golden Age to 12676 BC, more than 14,500 years before present, when the Great Bear was in the “Shravana” nakshatra (the Great Bear will advance by 3 nakshtras in every Yuga because of the 300 year transitional period). This agrees very well with the Indian tradition, since the Mahabharata mentions that in the ancient tradition the Shravana nakshatra was given the first place in the Nakshatra cycle. The timeline also indicates that the ascending Kali Yuga, which is the current epoch in which we are living, will end in 2025 CE. The full manifestation of the next Yuga – the ascending Dwapara – will take place in 2325 CE, after a transitional period of 300 years. The ascending Dwapara Yuga will then be followed by two more Yugas: the ascending Treta Yuga and the ascending Satya Yuga, which will complete the 12,000 year ascending cycle.
shes a fucking heathen shes a fucking sex demon she fucks everyone she fucks for fun
she fucks when shes sad she fucks when shes mad and im okay with that as long as she stops smoking crack
she hits my phone i grow a quick bone but then i think again and i jerk off instead because all those std's are buried deep in her bed
-John 'Redbeard' Weaver
John Phillips
>pic No
Genesis 9
2 And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered. 3 Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.
Ethan Hall
>God doesn't exis-
Isaiah 45:5 I am the Lord, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:
Jayden Jenkins
>3 Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you Except for pigs and shrimps, guys.
Charles Stewart
MUH SKIN I WORSHIP MUH SKIN I HAVE NOTHING BUT SKIN IM A SPIRITUAL WASTELAND NOTHING BUT A BAG OF SKIN FOR DEMONS TO PLAY WITH
Chase Rogers
On Thorsday morning did I wake With a mysterious anal ache "Slip slop", what's that sound? It's a dildo that weighs a pound A star blessed dildo on my friend Megan Cuz follow we wisely the ways of the pagan
-Lynette
Sebastian Ross
How's it going, dominican nigger?
Tyler Cook
>MUH SKIN We don't want not Aryans to be pagans, stay Christian.
Jackson Ward
How it's going fag for flag.
Easton Cooper
I PRAY TO TREES CUZ IM A FAGGOT RETARD WITH SHIT FOR BRAINS
Blake Cruz
you don't know shit nigger. do you honestly believe anybody is worshiping trees?
Tyler Richardson
Ignorant, spiteful, closed-minded and afraid- The text on which you built your life, the same that you betrayed. Holy, self-righteous, yet wholly hypocritical. Sanctimonious bullies- bigoted and parasitical.
A veteran in the land, which to protect, he went to fight, but for him it seems equality is not a given right. Ridiculed, scorned- filthy sinner, heathen- But who created him this way if not the lord that you believe in?
Your eyes are darkened. They're tinted with hate. Your ears? Too filled to listen to debate. But in this surge of civil rights that before has been denied, you will be the prejudiced fool that history leaves behind.
-Audrey
Juan Howard
You're embarrassing yourself, please leave.
Ignore him
Adrian Evans
MUH SKIN MUH SKIN IS MORE IMPORTANT THAT MY SOUL I WILL BURN MY SOUL TO GLORIFY MY SKIN
Liam Sanders
MY SKIN IS ALL I HAVE MY SKIN AND MY TREES
Josiah Price
> Be ashamed for getting into Occultism
> realizing that there are actual pagans out there
Feeling better now, thanks for that.
Nicholas Hall
>12687 B.C. HA
Christian James
Rooted deep in Mother Earth The Oak guards the circle A Great One in a grove of natives Standing tall and proud and wise
He has seen much season after season He has captured the rain Danced in the breeze Recovered from the flames Of a runaway bonfire
Regenerated limbs and leaves His spine is bent but solid His strength is unsurpassed He is the watcher in the night
He has borne witness to our rites Drank of our wine Partaken of our smoke Trusted us with his mysteries
He has been refuge for a nest of newborns A multitude of spiders and webs A staghorn fern as wide as his span An orphan squirrel with tiger eyes
Grandfather Oak, we honor thee And all your cousins in distant forests Old growth holds ancient wisdo Rootes deep in Mother Earth
-Azure
Dylan Johnson
>doesn't realize that law came around hundreds to a thousand years later
Asher Wood
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Ryan Baker
what's so funny?
Ayden Jackson
Don't let the LARPers scare you, this always happens. Sadly there's two of them (A nigger in the US and a Paki in Poland) who always shit up these threads so there's never any respite, they have both American and Euro timezones covered.
What are you interested in, Germanon?
Bentley Butler
Wonder if either general could ever go without it being a shit flinging fest
Aiden Cooper
It depends on which denomination. In Catholicism, the noble pagans go to Limbo which is the outermost layer of hell. They are free from the wrath of God but also denied paradise. It is a place of neither punishment or reward. In other denominations it varies. Christ said that at judgement God will reward all according to their deeds, so I personally believe that pagans who were never exposed to christianity went to heaven as long as they did their best to live moral lives but the bad pagans (like the later roman emperors who were homos and pedos etc.) went to hell. So, there's an answer for you. Would you mind answering a question for me? Is there a valhalla for non-pagans?
Brayden Hughes
Religious debate on Sup Forums? NOT a shitflinging fest? Just filter them and move on.
Jayden Thomas
>tfw Iberia was once good celtic lebensraum >now its just home to aryan/old european/moor mongrels who speak a vulgar latin dialect
Hudson Cooper
now watch them post the ((((((((((debunked)))))))))) one
Christian Hughes
>he thinks the earth is that old
Eli Clark
What a time to live, out of all the ages we have to live in the Kali Yuga.
Jonathan Turner
you mean how the Bible is heavely edited see6676 BC, we enter the Kali Yuga. connect the dots dummy, the Bible is not the complete story
Asher Jenkins
>Is there a valhalla for non-pagans? Half of all Folk (Indo-Europeans, or just Germanics, it's iffy) go to Valhalla if they die in combat. Non-Indo-Europeans fall through the bifrost and burn to ash as they fall. The other half go to Folkvangr which is either a boat to colonize the rest of the universe with after Ragnarok or Freyja's navy to fight with during Ragnarok (It's iffy). Doesn't matter your politics or religion, if you die in combat you get in to one of the two.
There other afterlives (Or rather, places in the afterlife) that you CAN go to even if you die in combat, but Valhalla/Folkvangr are the ones you specifically asked about.
Benjamin Martin
Seek Truth, Not Salvation
Against religion and god The heathen who influences your children Poisoning them with ideas like “being you is not a sin” And “seek the truth, not salvation”
Against the war and politics The extremist who leads your poisoned children To a future where “homosexuals aren’t any different from you” And “boundaries between countries are blurred”
Against authority and government The anarchist who lets your children run free In a world in which no one has complete control And We are free
I am the heathen And the extremist And the anarchist
I am alive
Liam Reyes
Evola seemed to think that we chosed to live in these times as a test of ourselves. we chose to reincarnate in the Kali Yuga to learn valuable lessons.
Jack Reed
How do pagans gets married?
Parker Thompson
Abrahamic shit must perish
James Adams
It's my theory that Valhalla is just one part of the afterlife which goes by many names such as Annwn, Folkvangr, Elysium etc
Jacob Stewart
>heavely desires Ha
maybe the new ones
Jacob Thompson
So there is no afterlife for non-indo-europeans who did not die in combat? That's interesting. What other places are there in the pagan afterlife?
Landon Smith
nah
Dominic Reed
meant edited
Brayden Clark
Interesting never heard of that before. Think of how many are falling this test. You can do it in many ways, as a celebration, with a priest, or by yourself with a ritual to the gods.
Benjamin Ward
What if I was married as a Christian and I'm a pagan now? Should I conduct a new ceremony or does it matter?
Parker Jackson
No, you don't have to do a new ceremony. It's symbolic.
Jaxson Campbell
Why not talk about the virtues of paganism instead of trying to shit on christians? And where do you get get that christianity is acceptant of homosexuality? I can post about 50 versus from the bible that are against it, how many verses from any pagan text that are against it? Research the Synod of Ancyra, where there were so many pagans to christian converts fucking animals they had to pass several laws against it.
Josiah Diaz
Daily reminder that Eurofagans practiced "sacred prostitution."
Once a year your wife would go down to the temple of the love goddess and strange men from far and wide would pay the priest to fuck her. This is how they raised money for temple upkeep and sacrificial animals.
This is what you want to bring back. A religion that requires you let other men fuck your wife.
Your religion is literal cuckholdry. You are a cuck.
And that doesn't even get into the faggotry and pedophilia of your religion.
You are degenerate pedo faggot cucks. You don't belong here. Fuck off.
Brandon Hughes
Shouldn't an English teacher know how to provide a source?
Hunter Stewart
>So there is no afterlife for non-indo-europeans who did not die in combat? No, there are. Or there aren't. It doesn't really matter because they just don't get into Valhalla/Folkvangr. Asatru is a religion for the Indo-European folk.
>What other places are there in the pagan afterlife? Speaking about Asatru only, there's Hel which is at the bottom of the World Tree. It has layers. The topmost is fine and dandy and are pretty much just living in England; a little overcast and occasionally rainy but no eternal suffering or anything. As you go farther down it gets colder until you reach the very bottom where traitors, adulterers, oathbreakers, and murderers (This is a specific point relating to Germanic Warrior society, murder is a SPECIFIC offense, not just killing someone) and the like go. They get to stand around in knee high freezing water inhaling the poisonous breath of Nidhoggr, the dragon that gnaws on the World Trees roots. The dragon occasionally manages to make a hole into this layer of Hel and proceeds to chew on the people trapped within it.
Thor also has a hall, which is pretty much a big house in a large field near a forest. It only had so many homes rooms, so some think the souls there have been making the house progressively bigger as time goes by.
Njord (the god of the sea) has an afterlife presumably for sailors and the drowned but it's not well attested.
I've already spoken about Folkvangr.
Germanic society had another afterlife where, essentially, your corpse along with a number of possessions were interred into a large mound (A Barrow, in Anglo-Saxon Britain). Your soul then remained there until people basically forgot about you and stopped bringing your spirit mead and company at which point you either reincarnated or went on to another afterlife. Your soul would be able to interact with those who came by, namely by speaking to them in dreams if they slept over your barrow (2spooky).
Angel Williams
>Jesus thread dies >Pagan thread at 68 posts Very good indeed.
Isaiah Hall
ahh those jewi...christian stories really are spicy right ching chong? I bet your tiny 5 cm weewee got hard thinking about aryan beaties
Jaxon Scott
If you want to piss off God you can formally make your covenant null, go full apostate and then have a Pagan ceremony proper. It would actually affect your relationship. Don't know how but it would.
Evan Wilson
Europe is not going to be pagan again stupid shit. And if it is pagan, it's going to be the anything goes gay wiccan neopaganism which is 99% of what paganism is today.
Juan Martin
I posted this a few days ago. Do me a favour Lads. strawpoll.com/4b4f7yxs Tis a Pagan poll.
Aiden Johnson
>Europe is not going to be pagan again stupid shit You're right, it's going to be islamic. Looking at how you cucks are dead set on us having to follow some sandnigger cult, I'd rather have it be the one that's still able to deal with most of the modern degeneracy we're complaining about on this board, thank you.
Ian Watson
RIGHT! So interesting question I'm hopping someone can help me answer here.
Can an Anglo with Southern European heritage practice Heathenry? Or should I stick to more southern variants (E.g. Greco-Roman). I've heard many different opinions on this matter and am curious about what the consensus here is.
Cooper Jenkins
Finally, there's reincarnation. Your soul (Or some portion of it) will be reborn as one of your descendents. Exactly HOW this works is murky but it's basically someone related to you. The pre-Christian Germanics were INCREDIBLY abhorred about what we would now call miscegenation, but for them it was anyone outside of their tribe. While all people are innately against miscegenation the Germanic tribes took it to a whole new level (There's records of women simply killing themselves en masse when they find out that their husbands are all dead and they have a choice between starvation and going to live with another tribe). Additionally, the pre-Christian Germanics were also noted for intentionally having large numbers of children.
This has lead some to speculate that they believed the reincarnation didn't work with descendants who weren't part of your Folk or that your soul couldn't reincarnate if you didn't have descendants for it to reincarnate into. This leads to the interesting notion of
>have lots of kids and don't fuck foreigners or your soul will get extinguished
But then that conclusion (Much like Folkvangr being a navy or colonization expedition) is one modern people have come to after examining attestations and evidence, we don't have anything explicitly saying either. For example, all we know about Folkvangr is that Freyja gets to pick half the dead, women who didn't die in combat get to go there, and that it's a big boat.
Jaxon Johnson
I'm not an English teacher. I'm Japanese. I live in a pagan country and I can tell you that you wouldn't be happy if your country was pagan. If you whiney malcontent contrarian faggots were born here you'd be like the weirdos who say we should expel Buddhism and stop using kanji because they're not Japanese. By the way you're typing in a Semitic writing system right now. Hahaha neofagans.
Anthony Anderson
Buddhism is an epic cure for nihilism.
Jackson Campbell
All are welcome, well met friend
Noah Reed
Seems like a pretty tumultuous afterlife. But interesting.
John Roberts
Obviously, this is a Aryan pagan thread, depends on where the majority of your ancestry comes from. Join the discord, there are tons of channels and I can point you in the right direction.
Jose Ramirez
Ok there OP I am willing to give Paganism a fair hearing. Redpill me
But be warned, I will need some really solid evidence to be sold on your religion. I am a skeptic by nature you see
Christopher Garcia
>Latin >Semitic What? Latin came from Greek. Greek isn't a Semitic writing system.
You could worship both. The Roman Germanics did.
Charles Phillips
okay so let's just get one thing straight what we are talking here is esotericism. all the civilizations of the past had an amount of knowledge passed down from higher sources. this knowledge manifested in diverse forms because of cultural differences. what you should do is to pick up and discern were the dots tie together and understand the bigger picture behind these beliefs just doing ceremonies for the sake of acting is not any better than the semitic shit we have now
Levi Lewis
>I'm Japanese Post a pic of your slanty eyes with a timestamp then, rice dick. >I live in a pagan country and I can tell you that you wouldn't be happy if your country was pagan Looking at how I have a church housing a few dozens of niggers a few blocks away, yes, I would be. >By the way you're typing in a Semitic writing system right now. Are you retarded?
Carter Robinson
But it's not Japanese. It comes from India. Just like the European pagan God's. Lol maybe you guys should convert to Buddhism instead.
James Martinez
So where do you guys get this information? Is this all out of the Eddas?
Alexander Robinson
In Norse mythology Ginnunganap, the "Yawning Void" is the emptiness out of which all creation arose. People who eat Amanita mushrooms frequently report falling into a terrifying timeless spaceless eternal nothingness. It sounds like you had an encounter with Odin: I think the "wasted flesh" may describe your actions (or lack thereof) throughout this and other lifetimes. I would recommend working on reconnecting with your Ancestors and the Gods of your Folk and deciding how you are going to live heroically and make this world a better place and yourself a better person.
Adrian Smith
>Pagan >Kabbalah tattoo
???
Robert Allen
Greek came from Minoan. Minoan came from Phoanecian. Guess what Phoanecians were. Europa the namesake of Europe was a Phoanecian princess.
Joseph Morris
read The Secret Teachings of All Ages by Manly P. Hall there is no individual redpill here. you just have to read many books on history.philosophy, mythology/religion/esotericism
Justin Phillips
That does seem to be the educated answer. The majority of Pagans I've actually spoken to, or people who identify as, display a love for all types of belief.
Polytheism seems to be less about Dogma, and more about loyalty to a culture and certain set. Less dogma, less supremacy, and more loyalty.
Kevin Barnes
bump
Carson Gonzalez
Aren't the niggers pagan? Maybe you should move to Africa if you like paganism so much?
Jaxon Rodriguez
Jews and pagans are allies, just ask Julian the Apostate
Jordan Jackson
Can you join the discord group audio call, sorry I'm doing 7 things at once.
