Donald trump jr meeting discussion

Let me lay out some of the facts we know

3 June - First email from goldstone. Relevant quotes [1]:

>The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father.

>This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump - helped along by Aras and Emin.

6 June - Phonecall Donald Jr. and Emin [1]

>Ok he's on stage in Moscow but should be off within 20 Minutes so I am sure can call Rob

7 June - Metting. Attendance, so far confirmed [2]:

Trump Jr., Kushner, Manafort, , Akhmetshin, Rob Goldstone, Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya
Anatoli Samochornov (translator) [3]

[1] nytimes.com/interactive/2017/07/11/us/politics/donald-trump-jr-email-text.html?mcubz=2
[2] apnews.com/dceed1008d8f45afb314aca65797762a/Russian-American-lobbyist-says-he-was-in-Trump-son's-meeting
[3] cbsnews.com/news/anatoli-samochornov-translator-donald-trump-jr-meeting/

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thehill.com/homenews/administration/341788-exclusive-doj-let-russian-lawyer-into-us-before-she-met-with-trump
nationalreview.com/corner/445504/obama-camp-disingenuous-denials-fisa-surveillance-trump
thehill.com/homenews/senate/317006-rubio-state-asked-not-to-talk-travel-ban-with-congress
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dailycaller.com/2017/07/05/house-dem-it-suspects-wanted-untraceable-payments-and-sure-enough-millions-disappeared/
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dailycaller.com/2017/04/30/stepmom-says-house-it-scandal-figure-threatened-kidnappings-of-pakistani-kin/
dailycaller.com/2017/06/09/congress-creates-surveillance-team-aimed-at-making-sure-their-food-is-fancier/
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Archived that for you

>nytimes com/interactive/2017/07/11/us/politics/donald-trump-jr-email-text.html?mcubz=2
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Some questions:

How did the times find out about the meeting?

This is the only piece of information I was able to find:

>The Times reported that Donald Trump Jr. had set up a meeting during the campaign with a Kremlin-connected lawyer and that he had asked Mr. Kushner, along with the campaign chief Paul Manafort, to attend. That disclosure was based in part on a newly filed security clearance form on which Mr. Kushner listed the Russian lawyer’s name.

I can't figure out if he listed the meeting on the newly released security form, or only the name of the lawyer.

[4] nytimes.com/2017/04/06/us/politics/jared-kushner-russians-security-clearance.html

How did the lawyer enter the US?

The lawyer was accepted under special circumstances only from October 2015 to January 2016 [5]. However we know from the email chain she was flying again to the US in June 2016. Under what conditions was she accepted in the country if she didn't have a visa?

>The U.S. Attorney’s office in New York confirmed Wednesday to The Hill that it let Veselnitskaya into the country on a grant of immigration parole from October 2015 to early January 2016.

>Justice Department and State Department officials could not immediately explain how the Russian lawyer was still in the country in June for the meeting with Trump Jr. and the events in Washington.

[5] thehill.com/homenews/administration/341788-exclusive-doj-let-russian-lawyer-into-us-before-she-met-with-trump

Was any information exchanged in the meeting?

This is the only info we have [2]:

>Veselnitskaya brought with her a plastic folder with printed-out documents that detailed what she believed was the flow of illicit funds to the Democrats, Akhmetshin said. Veselnitskaya presented the contents of the documents to the Trump associates and suggested that making the information public could help the campaign, he said.

Now purely speculation. A theory is: "the meeting was a setup to justify a FISA request for surveillance of the Trump team". The timeline fits: In June 2016 Obama sent a FISA request for surveillance of "associates of the Trump campaign" [6], although the request was denied.

>In June, the Obama Justice Department submitted an application that apparently “named” Trump in addition to some of his associates. As I have stressed, it is unclear whether “named” in this context indicates that Trump himself was cited as a person the Justice Department was alleging was a Russian agent whom it wanted to surveil. It could instead mean that Trump’s name was merely mentioned in an application that sought to conduct surveillance on other alleged Russian agents. President Trump’s tweets on Saturday claimed that “President Obama . . . tapp[ed] my phones[,]” which makes it more likely that Trump was targeted for surveillance, rather than merely mentioned in the application.
Of course, we don't have access to the FISA court request, but I wonder if the Trump administration does? If the meeting is the main component of the request, it would certainly show there.

[6] nationalreview.com/corner/445504/obama-camp-disingenuous-denials-fisa-surveillance-trump

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That's it. Drumpfy Boy 2 scoops will be impeeched. Hillory will be the new super president forever then Chelsea will be the next super president. Say it with me, morans. Madame.

First thing we have to do, is find the job description for the:
Crown Prosecutor of Russia.

This will help us get started on what information the individual might have access to.

Can anybody give a link for that job title and job description in the Russian govt?

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>How did the times find out about the meeting?

Either leaks within the Mueller investigation or leaks inside the white house.

Now purely speculation. A theory is: "the meeting was a setup to justify a FISA request for surveillance of the Trump team". The timeline fits: In June 2016 Obama sent a FISA request for surveillance of "associates of the Trump campaign" [6], although the request was denied.

I .think it's far more likely that Trump "Fredo" Jr was dumb enough to accept this meeting than that this was an elaborate scheme to get a fake warrant to monitor Trump for the purposes of ... ? I don't remember any anti-Trump information coming from Obama.

An administration that could pull off something that convoluted and corrupt without getting caught would have been able to spy on the Trump family in easier ways.

I don't know why anyone would get Trump Jr the benefit of the doubt on any of this. He has been misleading from the start.