Let's talk about a new nation. A nation on the sea. A nation not controlled by the (((jew.))) A nation that can become the next great super power. I speak of the Golden Armada. >Who will rule this nation? There will be a committee of people from pol that will rule the country as heads of ships, this will be continued by future heads of ships in the future. There will be also be a supreme leader who will lead the country in foreign affairs. >Where will this nation be? The nation will roughly reside in the area marked in pic related, this will change based on influences necessary to avoid encroaching other nations. >What about food and water? Water will be acquired through desalination of water samples from the ocean. Food will be acquired through fishing along with farming on giant farm ships. >How will you keep from getting BTFOd? We will ally ourselves early on with a super power for protection. The US and Russia are the two most likely candidates.
So what will you do? Will you join the Golden Armada or will you remain a filthy landlubber and get destroyed by mass immigration, leftism, and the (((jew?)))
We do not need land as we are ocean nation. Ocean nation strong
David Barnes
And who pay for the ships?
Dominic Martinez
Fractional Ownership.
Kayden Collins
How is this at all feasible? Where would you get all the resources? Most countries on land are failing, and here you have so much expenses just to maintain your living space.
Blake James
Give me a list of materials and I can tell you better how it will be obtained. But basically, we can get stuff either from the ocean or through trade.
Brayden Gonzalez
What are you going to trade? Fish?
Jacob Young
Based goldies. >literally how kekistan was created. Sage
Camden Davis
We can trade fish and various minerals. We can also have legalized gambling and drugs, as well as an organ market from prisoners.
Liam Turner
How are you going to mine minerals in the middle of the ocean? How will you compete with land nations in the gambling and drugs business?
Henry Nelson
>organ market from prisoners
Caleb Watson
>Polymetallic nodules, also called manganese nodules, are rock concretions on the sea bottom formed of concentric layers of iron and manganese hydroxides around a core. The core may be microscopically small and is sometimes completely transformed into manganese minerals by crystallization.
Charles Jones
If you look at the area on the map, you will see that the nation rests on both the East Pacific Rise and the Galapagos Spreading Center. There is plenty of area there to mine for materials.
Jonathan Murphy
How do you mine underwater, is that economically sustainable? I'm more and more interested in this idea.
Jose Scott
This request more money, do you know that ships cost millions?
Brandon Thomas
not to mention costs in maintenance
Ryder Bell
>This request more money, do you know that ships cost millions? Yeah, it seems like this nation will require massive initial investment, just to launch it.
Ryder Wright
Here is an example of how it can be done in deeper parts of the ocean, and it is already being done by some companies. For shallower areas we can have a person mine for the resources as well.
Carter James
Yes this project will most likely need investment from some companies which we should be able to repay very quickly. I have met with many anons with boats already however and one even with a family oil rig, so we can at least have a lot of the residential ships already done. Bitcoin mining is a side option we can work on as well though should not be a main focus.
Dominic Rogers
>I have met with many anons with boats already however and one even with a family oil rig, so we can at least have a lot of the residential ships already done. That sounds promising, how many boats for now? Is there oil in the proposed area?
Joshua Rodriguez
I have easily met 5-10 and the oil rog is currently in mexican gulf. I haven't been able to recontact them yet but a likely plan should the user resurface is for us to tow the rig around south america, stop in Chile where we have some anons and then head out. We are not quite sure of any oil yet there but plan on starting a scouting crew to see what we can find in the area. Think Lewis and Clark.
Luke Lopez
What kind of oil rig is this, where did they get it? Are there any legal obstacles to this plan?
Cooper Morris
I'm not sure what kind, they never said but apparently it's been in their family for generations. As for legal complications, there should not be any as it is privately owned.
Jayden Mitchell
Smells of kekistan and pedes
Nathan Evans
Not on my watch.
Matthew Peterson
I don't know anything about maritime law. Can you just claim part of the ocean and mine whatever you want? How does that work?
Carson Adams
Kekistan is gay and pedes deserve to be crucified. I just wanna make a nation in the middle of the ocean to see if it can be done. Also cuz fuck jews.
Thomas Peterson
Rich/Famous right wing speakers/companies could help out with the funding
Oliver Butler
You can claim any part of the ocean that is part of international waters, the main thing is getting bigger nations to recognize you as a country. Russia is a good candidate for this as they are rather big and could do with some allies and trade partners. Same goes for China somewhat.
Juan Phillips
Yeah, and if we are anti-us russia would probably recognize us
Ryder Jenkins
I don't know, they might just declare it piracy and remove everyone. Such a small group of ships will have no leverage against established nations
Matthew King
thats why you have a few heavily defended islands to retreat to like the pyrates used to do
Anthony Smith
Nobody cares about a floating pile of junk with a machine shop in it drifting around in circles out in the middle of the Pacific.
Eli Mitchell
That's what I think too. This armada nation will have to defend itself militarily. With good propaganda it may perhaps appeal to the empathy of the world population and force the leaders to recognize it. But there will need to be blood spilled for empathy to kick in.
Ryder King
>Nobody cares about a floating pile of junk with a machine shop in it drifting around in circles out in the middle of the Pacific. They'll care if you start making profit from local resources
Thomas Ramirez
Although I love this idea, its REAL far fetched and expensive... This is most likely never gonna happen
Bentley Campbell
Blood is definitely an option of recognition, killing off any pirates in the area and giving enough propaganda to make them think of us as a nation could work, but could make countries start to perceive us as a threat. The best method is to trade with as many people as possible, Venice style, and use that as a way to gain recognition. This works best as then we are not perceived as a threat and will have enough alliances so that we will not be invaded.
Ethan Perry
What resources? Flotsam? Fish? The barnacles growing on the hull? The damn chickens running around everywhere on deck? It's a frontier, you do what you want.
Aiden Jenkins
We could get like MILO, etc to donate
Jeremiah Lee
No homos onboard. As captain I have my rules.
Daniel Flores
(((fractional ownership))) You better hope that will turn out well
William Foster
What government will we have? Democracy? Dictatorship?
Gavin Jones
Usually done to split the costs own owning and maintaining the vessel.
Brayden Torres
>participate in piracy >make merchant ships and rich coastal towns pay a protection fee >provide charity to underclasses and some states so that you're not totally hated by everyone >escort ships through dangerous areas >trade illicit goods
That's a better way to make money as an ocean nation.
Daniel Green
>That's a better way to make money as an ocean nation. That's not sustainable in the long run. This is like cartel without drug money
William Parker
How about this: We go to the non-colonized ocean, find an unoccupied island, setup camp there, gain resources go undetected, come back to Europe sell our findings, then we would have enough money to start building our mother ships, farming ships first. Farm, sell crops, build bigger ships, and miners.
Jaxson Perez
Absolute monarchy is the only way, led by a king that embodies the culture and ideals of his people and raises his kids from birth to become good diplomats admnistrators and strategists, a man whose job is to serve and protect his kingdom and not someone who just happened to get the popular vote. Thats who should govern
Christian Russell
why don't we create neuschwabenland?
Michael Thompson
Why isn't it sustainable? As the nation grows richer start buying politicians, etc.
Christopher Gray
>we want to drown in the ocean because we're stupid
golden armada eh? yeah im sure everyone is just itching to join up >tsunami comes bye
Luis Reyes
You'll never gain legitimacy that way. The only way you can survive is if you're small enough that no one else cares about you. As long as you become big enough someone will intervene to stop the piracy
Camden Morris
There will be a general set of laws for everyone to follow while minor laws will be decided by ship, fleet, or however people decide to group together. For international affairs, we will have a leader who will decide how we interact with other countries.
Brandon Bailey
What does BTFO mean, anybody?
Joshua Thompson
>provide useful mercenary military service to governments >governments that hire you can use your army to get around international regulations The shadow of real governments could protect piracy nation.
Joseph Thompson
I own this sloop by the way, it runs and drives. What do? I can't use two boats at once.
Wyatt Lee
>The shadow of real governments could protect piracy nation. So this will be like ISIS, but on sea?
Blake Myers
bitch the fuck out or bit the fck out
Julian Gray
Basically, but not sand niggers and not brutal because white people are better than that.
Henry Moore
The movie Waterworld sucked user
Caleb Nguyen
If you already have a functional boat or in this case, sloop, then I would recommend starting to scout out the area for the nation. This will give us a better idea of the amount of resources available, conditions of the area, and other useful information. If you know any other people who own boats who are also interested or other anons can meet up with you, then you can start a scouting party and be able to scout out more area.
Aaron Murphy
If you need some deeds to generate empathy from the outside world, and some financiation, I´d suggest dealing with the big "plastic garbage island" that is floating on the pacific. Lots of plastic to recycle, the Golden Armada could profit from cleaning the ocean and using those tons and tons of plastic just floating there. Even could attract money from ecologist and such organisations.
Colton Price
STOP POSTING, YOU'LL CREATE ANOTHER KEKISTAN
Camden Martin
this could be the long desired dream that got perverted with "kekistan" meme
John Watson
Have three, two functional, have a personal boat, a ketch, which is a keeper. The Pursuit just had an engine rebuild, is functional and in need up elbow grease and customization. In water at dock as we speak. We can use for our purposes in this endeavor.
Gotta go, be back later.
Landon Martin
approved by Thoth, it shall become reality
Joseph Perry
>big "plastic garbage island" Do you have any links about that, user?
Thomas Green
Oh my god a fucking seasteading thread? I'm at work right now but I've always wanted to do this. However logistics are a huge problem dude
Camden Harris
Russia would be an easier ally to get after we prove our utility. Would give them some influence in the pacific. Then maybe they could help us at least get a little clay to hang our hats on and get one step closer to international recognition
Nathan Thomas
Alright, let me know if you want to get in contact and we can get that set up for you to lead a group if you wish. Yes, logistics can be a problem. If you have any insight in that field, it would be very useful.
Benjamin Bennett
I don't know, I'm against the idea of piracy. If it's legitimate nation living off of mining and fishing, that's fine. I'm opposed to organ harvesting as well.
Jordan Nguyen
To be fair, the organ harvesting will be for federal criminals and people who donate them. And no, this will not be piracy, piracy is degenerate.
Alexander Sanders
i predict cannibalism within 5 minutes if that nation comes to be
Carson Barnes
>i predict cannibalism within 5 minutes if that nation comes to be No way, that's absolutely degenerate.
>Be looking at sailboats online with the gf because houses and rent are so fucking expensive >Come to Sup Forums >See this thread >Realize I had this exact same idea
T-There really is a place for me...
Mason Carter
Well you will be welcome into the Armada user, just don't abuse the nonexist welfare state.