So my language teacher said that the Amarican nuked japan just for fun and i tell her that the wind move away the bomb...

So my language teacher said that the Amarican nuked japan just for fun and i tell her that the wind move away the bomb further away from its original location which is a military base,she said it's just a white propaganda to think that they make a mistake...The worst part is that she thinks that the british who nuke japan...How do you respond to this Sup Forums?

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Miho-chan is cute, but there are cuter girls in GuP.

>you will never be a glorious Japanese pilot shooting at the Jews in Pearl Harbor

why continue?

Wow you have shit taste

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Mika best girl

I studied in an America in Ohio.

My history teacher told me that if they the didn't drop the bomb on Japan, Americans would be speaking Japanese by now

>British nuked Japan
If only. The Britbong supremacy would be complete

>witty response

America just dropped the bomb to send a message to Russia, the war was already won.

*I studied in America, Ohio.

oh, they're doing more than speaking japanese, onii chan

>The worst part is that she thinks that the british who nuke japan

>America drops nukes on Japan
>Japan becomes a cultural force influencing the entire planet
Does radioactivity affect your creativity?

I wanna be a qt trap desu

Hey brits are awesome.

The objectively best girl overall is Anzu-chan.

Yep

My God, where do you study? Terengganu?

Im just going to tell you. In eastern europe it has never taught us that is was mistake. Here everyone knows it was on purpose to nuke 2 major cities to pring the japanese to their knees and force them to surrender

Wait your language teacher?
Tell her to fuck off and actually study History/ become a History teacher before she starts lying about History.

Also nice flag Malaysia

>Does radioactivity affect your creativity?
Japan's always been doing stuff like animu, it's just that in the 50s-60s when Americans introduced Japan to comics and Western cartoons the Japanese applied their creativity to western styles

Pic related

The war was not over. It was hopeless for japan but the could have put up a strong fight when being invaded

Still japan was looking for negotiations to surrender in 45 but the usa would not accept anything but unconditional surrender

This nigga is ready to get stoned!

We nuked cities to send a message. They were both important cities for war, and our nukes saved many lives versus the alternative of a land invasion. Worse still, Russia was set to invade Japan from the North, so the only chance of saving Japan from Communism was an early surrender. We saved them from becoming the Poland of the East.

Eh? Even in America its been basic knowledge that nuking Hiroshima and Nagasaki were deliberate military operations to force Imperial Japan to cede all war efforts.

Maaan Japan is awesome.

Someone is trying to steal our credit for nuking Japan? We are the only country to use them in war and your teacher tries to credit the brits? Bastard.

It was too end the war by the way. No one would want to invade Japan with ground forces.

>japan was looking for negotiations to surrender in 45
lol there were literally plots to assassinate the emperor because he wanted to surrender

>nuke 2 major cities to pring the japanese to their knees and force them to surrender
>deliberate military operations to force Imperial Japan to cede all war efforts.
That's exactly what he said

>be russian
>get NIPPED

It was also to test their power on a city to show Russia what we were capable of and keep them off our asses. Had we not nuked Japan, we would have had no objective proof of the devastation a nuclear bast could cause on an inhabited city, and likely would have sated that curiosity with a nuclear World War III. It was a demonstration that created relative peace between the great powers and has maintained it for over 70 years.

>REEEEEE

N... No homo, Comrade...

The real truth is the supreme commander is a time travailing otaku and wanted to keep anime safe from the commies.

wow thats pretty gay desu

During WW2 the Japanese used to personify their battleships with cute girls to sell merchandise and make people happy with the military desu

>created relative peace
You considered nuking us during Korean war though. Good thing we got our own A-bombs by then.

>Implying Japan would have surrendered because of a few big booms and not because Russia had mobilised after the Germans were beat.

Talk shit all you want, if the Japs had the Axis behind them they would have fought until the end. Losing wars isn't historically their forté.

Also thread theme. They just don't make them like they used to:
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>Second bomb had to be armed before take-off because of it's design.
>Originally meant for Kokura (now Kitakyushu).
>Get to Kokura all clouded over, can't see a thing.
>Wait around for an hour to see if clouds break.
>See Zero fighters climbing up.
>Fuck this, go on to secondary target, someplace called Nagasaki.
>Barely enough fuel to make it to Okinawa.
>Get to Nagasaki, also lots of clouds.
>See some building through clouds.
>Fuck it, bombs away.
>Later find out missed target (Mitsubishi shipyards) by 3 miles and barely touched.
>Who cares, we won.

All are nice, but Erwin best girl.

Regardless of your whole question, I'm guessing both you and your teacher suffer radiation sickness

Selangor my friendo

Malaysia stronk my friend

i'm at the twink stage

also, you two are related?

Daily reminder that, at the time of it's bombing, Hiroshima was the Japanese city with the largest population of Christians.

:^)

Japan were a bunch of assholes and needed to get an ass beating so bad that they never stepped out of line again.

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Leafs of a shit feather.

Do you like big hairy Abdi ramming your ass?

> missed target (Mitsubishi shipyards) by 3 miles and barely touched.
American bomb weak!

Sure not everyone was agreeing to surrender at that time.

Doesnt change the fact that japan was looking for negotiations via russia.

Amerika had first bomb!
Fuck you!
USSR make bomb out of sheep skin and carpets!
Russia fuck you!

>about you history question
No, America didn't drop the bombs just for fun. It was a message to Russia not to start shit, it also depleted Japanese morale to the point of complete surrender. If you read up on events before he atomic bombs, the japs were fighting tooth and nail to keep the gaijin out, if the war kept going or if a half assed surrender were to happen, the jap citizenry would fight to the death or kill themselves before the raving gaijin arrive.

>as for your teacher having incorrect and shit-tier opinions
You either ignore them or point them out, even people in authority make mistakes and teachers like that are pretty common.

>as per your shit taste in anime
Grow up.

There would never had been an invasion. Japan is a fucking island. It might have went on for another year, but they would have surrendered. The bomb was unnecessary and only used to scare the russians.

In February 1945, MacArthur sent a telegram to Roosevelt saying Japan offered to surrender if they could keep the Emperor.

In July 1945, Japan made the same offer through the Soviet Union (which was neutral with Japan).

Soviets break neutrality treaty on August 8th, invade China next day. Second atomic bomb dropped same day. Japanese surrender August 12th. MacArthur say they can keep Emperor.

Should have done it anyway. It would have been so worth it.

Didn't we own you lads at some point? It'd make sense why you as strong as you are today.

(((PURE COINCIDENCE)))

There's not a pair of nukes in military history that has saved as many lives as those two did. The Germans would've fared better with the Japan treatment. Russkies were onto Manchuria and the US would've invaded through Kyushu. Also, Dresden, Montecasino and most decent-sized battles were far more devastating.

Your teacher is an illiterate.

Japan just thought they were invincible and built their military shit where civilians lived.

There were plans for an invasion by water... the plans never went far because of nukes but it would be the next option

No need for making excuses really, you mercilessly bombed german cities as well.

The atomic bombs used on Japan had a blast radius of one and a half kilometers. Which is one and a half kilometers more than what the commie Russians had.

All those Jew spies you had in our A-bomb program should have given you better info.

When america saw that the japanese emperor was keeping the japs in line and not riot they decided to keep him anyway

>it isnt americas/bongs fault that germans build their houses right were the germans tend to live
Its called de-housing

>It was a message to Russia not to start shit
I read somewhere that during peace conference in Germany Truman spoke to Stalin about new big bomb to get more in negotiations but did not explain it through because of secrecy so Stalin pretended that he did not understand.

>Philippines

Ready, you ignorant fools?

"The atomic bomb had nothing to do with the end of the war. The war would have been over in two weeks without the Russians coming in and without the atomic bomb." - Major General Curtis LeMay, Commander US Army Air Corps for the bombing campaign on Japan.

"The atomic bomb did not win the war against Japan. The Japanese had, in fact, already sued for peace before the atomic age was announced to the world with the destruction of Hiroshima and before the Russian entry into the war." - Admiral Chester Nimitz, Commander US Naval Forces Pacific.

Nukes are a hoax. Tell her that. He's dumb for believing in the nuclear weapon meme.

Our spies told us you had like 2 of them in 1945. Too often Americans believe they could actually wage nuclear war in middle 40s.

your language teacher is a faggot and the japs deserved far more than 2 nukes

Koume!

Sounds accurate.

I remember hearing something like after the bomb was dropped that Truman tried bragging about it to Stalin who replied with amazement to how they got the sprinkles to stay on the pastry he had.

American here.
Can confirm it was for fun.
Did you see that fuggin explosion?
Oh bby a double!

Not unconditionally though, no way

That's ridiculous. America had been steadily pushing Japan back in their own home turf for the duration of the Pacific War. The nukes were only used to save the lives of the estimated 100,000 American soldiers who would have otherwise died in the invasion of Japan.

I wathced that one old jew on youtube, former Israel intelligence guy. He's pretty cynical down to earth guy and often correct. He says that they had to nuke Japan to explain money wasted on Manhattan project. Could not just say all those millions were spent in such a hurry unnecessary because ww2 is over.

We actually had three, with a fourth ready to go a few weeks later. The first one was tested in New Mexico. Should have dropped the fourth on Moscow.

Our B-52's dropped their bombs on the wrong country.
>Take off from U-Tapau, drop bombs, land five minutes later.

Your language teacher is ignorant of the facts.
The bottom line is this. Japan's military government was unwilling to surrender, and it had effectively propagandized its fighting men to never surrender. So there were two alternatives from President Harry Truman's standpoint - use the bombs or invade Kyushu, then Honshu.
The war was ended by the Showa emperor, who mentioned the atomic weapons in his acceptance of the Potsdam declaration. As others have stated, the bomb was one of two reasons for the surrender, the other being the entry of the Soviets into the war.

The popular attitude in the US is that the bombs removed any attitude that the Japanese could resist defeat.

The war could have been continued as we kept on fire bombing buildings, but it would have drawn out the war far longer and possibly led to more deaths (so goes the theory).

Give it up. The cat's apparently out of the bag and we don't have to make up facts any more. Truman did it because it was "fucking sweet", in his words to the American public.

Never done that but will it feels good?

"The war was totally over, Japan just wanted to keep the Emperor's political power and status as a living god, all their possessions gained in WW2, and their military." - Some military faggot

Nigga have you even looked at the conditions of some of the early japanese peace attempts?

Shut up Mike

can you actually kill mike or at least report him to the police? dont you guys have blasphemy laws or something of the sort

We did it because we'd been jerking off with the Manhattan Project and needed something to bust on.

This. It was either the bombs or an overall bloodbath via invasion. The Japanese were willing to fight to the last man if it was a land invasion.

Here people mostly think that japs surrendered to you because alternative would be their country split like Germany/Korea after USSR joined the fun. Japanese ww2 topic is not very popular here though, it is an insignificant episode in our history after all. Though our ((liberals)) blame Stalin for attacking japs because it was aggressive evil move.

No Faggot!
It does not feel good!
Trust me bud.

Also anime is for faggots.
Stop posting it!

America-kun!

Stop bring race issue on Japanese vidya!

The only condition the Japanese had was to retain the Emperor. This was the same offer made in February and July 1945.

>Allies: Potsdam Declaration demands surrender of Japan.
>Japan: Potsdam Declaration doesn't mention getting rid of Emperor. Can we keep him?
>Truman: That is up to the Supreme Commander Douglas MacArthur.
>MacArthur: (Let's get this over with before fucking Stalin and the Russians claim more territory for doing jack-shit.) The Japanese can keep the Emperor.

>It does not feel good!
>Trust me bud.

leaf confirmed as faggot

Ikr?

there is no way Japan could win

If anything, the dropping of the bombs ensured that the Cold War would be bloodless. If the United States never showed their bombs, and the USSR never pushed hard to build them, the Cold War could have easily become a very long continuation of WW2.

>only one condition
As i said NOT unconditional
Are you an idiot?

...because everyone had a katana and katanas can cut through tanks.

>what are nuclear tests

the japanese still held a vast territory with resources that would allow them to fight for many years. they were not going to surrender, that is not the japanese way. the americans had two choices: an amphibious invasion(operation downfall) of the main land that, according to estimates, would cause the death of about 5 million(more than 50% civilian) people or use the atomic bomb. they chose the later, the death can only be measured by estimates, but it didn't go past 150k. do the math. still, the military command of Japan would not surrender, even after the second bomb. Finally the emperor himself came to his senses and made tbe final decision on his own.

>muh unconditional surrender
was a hideously kikeish move in both theaters sacrificing the lives of millions out of nothing, but hatred and revenge

US did the best it can do to prevent more death, and ended the war earlier.

Those words mean nothing.
Nothing at all treefag.
Why don't you mind your own business.
I was talking to the Faggot!

>Cold War would be bloodless

>Korean war
>Vietnam war

>Proxy wars all around the freaking glob

>Who is not understanding here?

The surrender was technically "unconditional" (because Roosevelt made that stupid pledge at the Casablanca Conference), but the condition was already agreed to by the US and Japan beforehand. So it was an unconditional surrender with a wink-wink.