Independent California

Is an independent California a real possibility in the near future?

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There should be a mexican holding onto one of his legs.

We'll see. They're trying to get a vote on 2018. I sort of doubt it though. The Democrats make themselves rich off of Federal Funding.

they'll be in the same position, just making themselves rich in trade. they're a quarter of GDP

This. Get my cancer out of the US. Don't worry about me, I'll be fine.

Guaranteed collapse in a few years if they did. They'd have to import most of their food (retarded Californians will tell you they produce soooo much food, but in reality its shit like almonds, oranges, etc. No real staple crops), and they're already having budget issues due to the inflated homelessness, high cost of living, and shit real estate market.
Do do they honestly believe that the Silicon Valley companies would stay? Fuck no, they want to be based in the US, so a Calexit would ruin that. You'd see a huge number of companies flee.

I hope they try. White rural conservatives in California will be treated like South Africans by the race traitors, spics and compton niggers, redpilling the rest of white America. RAHOWA will finally begin.

Hellifornia.

Californians are more than welcome to leave, they just can't take their state with them.

I'm sure their agricultural sector would love losing all the water piped in from the rest of the US.

It honestly won't matter if California is independent because their borders will be totally open and it will be illegal for them to discriminate on the basis of citizenship, nationality, or any other category. The most important thing is that no Californians are allowed to enter the US under any condition.

Wouldn't Northern California want to break off and become Jefferson before a California succession?

They could just seek refuge in Europe, aren't they like 30% white?

Take all the blue parts with you, and we'll build a wall together between us

Not at all and there are several reasons for this OP. It would spark a huge debate which would lead to protest and riots, and force California back into the Union, Democrats wouldn't allow it due to the high amount of electoral college votes they would lose, other states have to agree with the seceding of California and will likely not due to its mass food production and economy, and it has no military or defense what so ever so if it does secede and become independent Mexico will go to war with them most likely to gain a foothold in America which will lead sand nigger countries and China to try and buyout California from Mexico or don't and Mexico tries to attack America they lose annex Mexico then Canada and that means we have to deal with a lot more crime rate due to mudslimes and spics invading Canada, and Mexico being home to the biggest drug cartel in the world.

>"That's it, it's time for us Californians to leave the country because it doesn't stand for us anymore."
>Jefferson: "Okay but I'm fucking seceding from YOU because you don't stand for me anymore."
>"YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO SECEDE FROM US"
And then Syrian Civil War 2 happened.

The mudslimes invading Canada are still less subhuman than the spics invading us

It would be annexed by Mexico in a week.

Rich in trade no

this

They won't be able to afford gibs, and they already have enough financial problems. Without federal funding, they will be RIP pretty quickly.

Let them become independent, let their ideas of socialism take over. It'd be great to watch them destroy themselves

Mexicans would revolt within weeks, all the celebrities would freak and try to bail, gang warfare would grow even more out of control, produce would have to be imported, and clean water would command outrageous prices.

I give an independent California six years tops before it descends into a starved, uninhabitable, crime-ridden third world hellhole.

To be fair though, it would be fun to see the ANTIFA cucks get btfo by their beloved minorities. There's a reason those people never go to the lower central coast areas.

Not all of us are degenerates who want socialism, also Commiefornia is going to turn red in 2020 guaranteed due to the amount of redpilled gen z. Its going to be great user.

I would relish the opportunity to kill a few commiefornians.

I hope so, then I can finally lead the crusade to purge the fucking Muslim Mexican loving cucks.

.t norcal

Years? It would take weeks

I looked at voter maps for most of nor cal and it was still majority democrat. There was like 2 countries that voted red with populations less than 100k

22% of California's Youth is Non-Hispanic white. Unless we repeal the 1965 immigration act, Allow mostly Europeans/Anglos to immigrate and remove all the people given amnesty by Reagan. California being red would be a pipedream. California along with States like New Mexico, Arizona and Texas will become nothing more then Mexican colonies due to the amount of spics they have. I wouldn't be surprised if all four end up Blue by 2024.

Only GenZ whites will be conservative, the rest will be anti-white just like they've always been. Spics or any Nonwhite who came here after 1965 aren't our friends.

and we are heavily armed, try something nigger

I would hope so.

Don't be stupid

Don't believe that bullshit that only white Gen Z will be conservative. If you come from Gen Z like myself spics and niggers don't like to tell people about their race because they're ashamed not being born of a higher genetic power. Democrats and Commies will be super BTFO with the illegals once Gen Z starts to take office mark my words user.

so is So cal. A gun shop 1 street away from me.

You know theres plenty of places that you can live in if you want a white ethnostate? Go to Iceland?

>even the liberal cartoon depicts California as uncontrollably losing money

Who the fuck do you think posts all the Anti-White shit on instagram and Twitter you dumb retard? The nonwhites of GenZ do, they're the ones who keep saying that whites should be killed. Even so called "conservative" Nonwhites end up voting for gibs. You're fucking deslounal if you think that civic nationalism would work in this enviorment.

>they're a quarter of GDP

How much of the tech and entertainment industry would actually remain in an independent California as opposed to just moving to Texas?

Leave and we'll shoot you in the face in the name of freedom.
t. The Union

Didnt the main guy behind calexit go to russia

then we can Sherman's march together to sac; burning, cussing, killing and rectify8ng every step of the way.

are you excited brother? my steel dicks says yes'm I am too.

Better question, how much would Texas suffer?

America doesn't have to be fully white, but its possible that could make it 80% white at the most. if we repeal our immigration act and start mass deportations. Nonwhites in the majority being on our side is a pipedream.

They would probably flee to nevada or oregon depending on where we they live or try to keep the inland empire/jefferson in the US its really only the coastal cities and socal that want to leave

My brain hurts to see someone this fucking stupid. You obviously don't know the difference between a Millennial and a Gen Z.

god I fucking hope so

we can still keep our flag with 50 states because chances are, Jefferson will secede back into the mainland where it belongs. Just imagine a long socal by itself, dying of thirst, crushed by its own crippling socialism. Would make a great example to the world of its failure

btw hollywood will just move back to NY, literally nothing of value will be lost

Nevada is already 51% non-Hispanic white. Only European/Anglo immigration and mass deportations can save the West Coast and states around it.

I've seen Nonwhites as young as 16 posting that shit. You're out of your fucking mind. Our current immigration system and act if not repealed will continue to flood America with third world garbage until we become the next South Africa. The majority of Nonwhites in this evoriment will never vote for Nationalism as it would be racist to them.

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Im just saying in the situation that jew i replied to mentioned the conservative whites in the Inland empire would probably leave to Nevada because its still in the union and a border state

No. Even if they voted to leave, they're too strategically valuable to let them go.

Hopefully the
>DAY OF THE SHAKE
will detach them from the rest of us so they drift away into the Pacific.

No

no. CA represents a sizable chunk of global gdp. mr. fed will never allow it.

of course it's a comical proposition anyway.

We already do. Fucking Californian transplants.

California leaving the Union would cause a massive wave of Californian refugees to Texas. It would be fucking awful.

Not really, mostly incredibly wealthy people that live there, thus, they're Democrat. If the state was chock full of braindead idiots, it'd be Republican.

I hope so.

I hope so, fuck that shithole

"good afternoon sir what is the purpose of your trip?"
"I was just going to go to Oregon to shop around"
"Could you step over here please also I need your smart phone and pass code" "What's going on here? I'm from California!!"
"smart phone and pass code sir"

No. "California" does not want to be independent.

A select few large California cities might and they do control the vote but rural California is Republican.

If the cities tried to rebel, all the counties have to do is blockade a few highways for like a week and the cities will be in ruins. They survive on the rural areas.

Hell the rural areas could cut the city water supply and that would be the end of that.

No. Not at all. Not ever.

They expect one us in the fire brother

Why is Trump standing there looking angry? He should be smiling at those bastards leaving.

No.

There is zero chance.

The people don't support it, and even if they did, the federal government would never allow it. They established a pretty strong precedent in 1861 for how they view states attempting to leave, don't you think?

If California was allowed to leave, all the big companies residing there to do business in the United States would leave, they'd lose all federal benefits, their economy would collapse and they'd be a sad Third World-tier state of nothing but remorseful Mexicans and Leftists.

Yes. For a short time. If it were to happen conservatives from Cali and other states would come and take it back by force, and push all the spics, niggers and libs down to Mexico or into the Pacific Ocean. They would be complete defenseless to stop them, and then Cali would be the reddest red state once it joins back.

>Fucking Californian transplants.
I don't fucking get these faggots. They vote for and enact shitty legislation to the point to where they have to move to another state. And what do they do once they arrive in the new home? Do the same exact bullshit that forced them out in the first place. These people are a literal fucking cancer and need to be put down soon.

I'll be looking into maine, vermont, and new hampshire now.

California is too small for a republic and too large for an insane asylum.

Even the 30% are probably virtue signaling. If push came to shove I doubt if 10% would support it.

Texas is almost ours!

While liberals are already claiming victory saying "demographics are destiny", they are missing a crucial detail: Trump's interest in White Immigration

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Trump and Loyalists like Bannon and Sessions want to increase Immigration for whites. While Blocking immigration from most of the third world. He's interested in replacing the 1965 immigration act with a modified version of the 1924 immigration act which would benefit white immigrants. The whites will probably come from Europe/Anglosphere/Southern Africa when it comes to the country of origin. Instead of Southern/Eastern Europeans being blocked in this modified immigration act. It will target the most third world instead, As they've been flooding the US nonstop since 1965 with little to no success. It could also make immigration numbers shrink from 1 Million to 250,000-500,000 immigration arrivals, Most of which would be from Anglo or European countries. This immigration proposal might completely reverse the demographic downfall of America as the nonwhite birth rate is started to shrink, and since less and less third worlders would arrive the number of nonwhites births will shrink while the US will gain 1% of white growth in America each year because of this Pro-European/Anglo immigration plan. This, Along with the RAISE Act, Mass Deportations of both Illegals and Dreamers and Lowered Taxes could keep America a white majority country.

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Pat Dollard's White Majority Project
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Donald Trump’s Aides Develop Plans to Halve Legal Immigration
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Not anymore

what happened in 1861?

user...

Of cause, little did you know that they have WMDs and want to destroy Washington, a guy from Starbucks told our CIA officers and showed us pictures of unmarked european trucks. They are an immediate threat to our way of life and must be stopped.

>burger education

public education has failed us. 1861 is one of the most significant years alongside 1776, because at the time, 1861 was named what it really was: The Second American Revolution. Alternatively known as The War of Northern Aggression, the textbooks have now written it as The Civil War, despite how the whole point of it was to stay the fuck away from feds, not a fight for who controls it like what most civil wars traditionally are.

basically

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Fuck no, we'd destroy them and it be under military control like post civil war south

Drunk, high, hobo...
California would break apart in a month. Urbanites would starve.

>we get to kill and loot commiefornians instead of the other way around for once

I see nothing wrong with this, let them secede

oh yeah let them try, maybe we'd actually see Jeffereson actually become a state after the commie part get ransacked

of course, Jefferson could easily take California's place so we can keep our states 50 nice and easy

it's a win-win solution

Good god no. A grand portion of california is farmland and most of the farmers are conservative so they wouldn't even dream of seceding. The northern half of California is also heavily conservative and hates everyone from about Sacramento down so it'd give them a good reason to split off if it got that far.

In reality you have the Bay Area, Central/Southern Sacramento area, San Diego, LA, and a good portion of Southern California. You'd be left with big cities and no agriculture to feed tens of millions of Hispanics and rich white liberals in the bay area/LA.

All that farmland that California Urban people flaunt like they control it wouldn't even consider following their faggot uprising.

I hope so. I grew up there and now resent all the other Californians moving to nice places like Idaho. If they're not US Citizens anymore, we can extend the wall and keep them the fuck out of good places.

Also, blocking them from US trade would be a nice finishing move, it would open up a tremendous vacuum of consumer demand for a new tech sector to thrive.

No.
Without the federal governemnt programs keeping their spics and niggers at bay they will crash and burn in a week.

>b-but muh state GDP
Only exists because of the silicon valley .com boom. That's fading fast as retards slowly realize one area having an internet monopoly makes no god damned sense.

Remind you of anyone?

They're not taking federal land

California would break in half within a month. The northern half would stay with the rest of the country just to gain it's statehood. In the tri county area of shasta, trinity and humboldt, there's guns everywhere and hillbilly worship. Only place in California to hold a successful Trump rally

This is a crude representation of who what parts of california would actually 'secede' if given the opportunity.

Let them try.

Ask the last group of rebels how well that turned out

We can dream...

El Dorado county reporting in

Why would democrats ever allow a calexit? It would permanently cripple their chances in the general elections without that gauranteed 55 votes, It will never ever be allowed to be anything beyond a far left progressive fantasy.

This is a dead topic.
The ordinal person behind this idea and it's funding, is Russian. As soon as California heard that, they fractured into multiple groups with no funding.
People might still want it, but it's absolutely impossible. The legal hurdle is the same as challenging issues on the constitution, and you won't get 2/3 of America to forgive $500 billion dollars in debt California owes.
Might as well have another "we hate niggers thread" for all this conversation is worth.
It's not financially possible, it's not legally possible and it's not possible by force

Speaking as a San Diegan - an independent California is a distinct possibility, for a few days.

>It's not financially possible, it's not legally possible and it's not possible by force
But is it possible with memes?

The only 2 states allowed to secede by federal law are Texas and Minnesota
This is fake and gay

Hey...thats pretty good. Lions guard militia please.

please let this happen. donate, fags

With political will and maneuverings. Alternatively, a president can keep send nuclear waste to California via Eminent Domain and the Dep of Energy, and see how they like the strong and long arm of the State.

JEFFERSON WILL RISE!

I'm tired of all those fuckers down south making laws that fuck with us. The whole point of states is that different regions require different governance, and CA is a big fucking state.

Kek another dreamer. It's funny that we both came about similar courses of events
>Turn Cali into a magnet
>Make Cali exit
L E A R N T O S W I M

If California was to leave, could 'Jefferson' form as its own independent state, like West Virginia did when Virginia voted to secede?

California voting to leave would allow 'Jefferson' to skirt the Constitution's requirement that the California State Assembly has to vote to support its secession from California.

No, sadly. Even the large amounts of Republicans wanting to get rid of that state from the Union it won't happen. The state is more likely to be split into different states which will reduce the farmland and water supply for the state. Then this independent California would collapse without federal funding like illinois.