Admit it, the only way for us to be legitimate is to drop the /88/ and include white jews in our message

admit it, the only way for us to be legitimate is to drop the /88/ and include white jews in our message.

who even believes in

>drop the /88/

i remember hearing it in a random video

''you adopt the stereotypes your enemy created for you''

how convenient would it be for jews to attack people who associate with nazism

I want everyone included in "our message" because I want a culturally homogeneous home for all peoples.

I wouldn't mind globalism if the Jews were helping to create an empire of superior races.

Back to /x/ with your shit. Amerifag.

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>jews
>white

oh boy guess we better drop the anti-semitism then !

its over guys, jews are BASED now

Dropping the 88 would be a beneficial but adding Jews to the movement would not. That said I see no reason why Jews can't have a homeland of their own so long as they're not fucking with us

I will start supporting White Jews when White Jews start supporting us.

No, fuck the Jews they aren't white and they openly admit it.

I LOVE THIS COMIC, I HATE THE 88, AND LOVE THE 14,
BUT
JEWS
ARENT
WHITE
YOU
STUPID
FUCK

Does hating jews have to be tied exclusively with nazism? Nazism is so much more than just that, you don't have to go 88 to achieve 14 AND get rid of them, many people throughout history hated them.

jews ARE white

88 needs to stay

but get rid of 14

Nigger nazis?
BASED

Or you know, maybe we could just embrace the Nazi thing since no matter what we do they will treat us like we are and call us as such?
If they want a reason to hate us surely giving it to them would actually do us some good

>Nazism
Stop using this word. It's not a thing. The term is national socialism.

>there are 1.3 billion white people in the world
>the most power race in existence, save the jews
>a future for white children is in doubt
>you have to do anything to preserve a future for white children at all, except possible fuck and cum inside at some point

you need to drop the stormfront autism altogether. "14 words" is just as cringe as "88".

Drop them off a fucking cliff you mean.

>Yes Goyim, protecting your race and caring about it at all is cringe. Listen to some more Beyonce while Kanye fucks your sister

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Murdoch Murdoch Episode TLSOIW / TRPB

Stop strawmanning you ignorant faggot. The 88 is a pile of shit that has held the 14 back for years. That picture is true.

That being said, that doesn't mean we think Jews are White people. Fuck off.

The left memed neo nazis into existence. White people cared about their people surviving since the dawn of time, there is no need to make it 100% about Hitler and NS. We can learn from NS, but making Hitler the God of the white race is fucking autism.

Not trusting Jews was fucking normal pre-WW2, faggot. Everyone who doesn't like Jews doesn't have to be a Nazi. You're so full of shit.

Also, not being an 88 obsessed larper actually harms the Jews' ability to silence and destroy you. They want nothing more than neo nazi skinheads plastered over every TV screen so they can get the dumb masses to hate you.

Everyone in America has an idea of neo nazis, how many know who Jared Taylor is?

The image in OP doesn't imply kikes are White, OP is just a strawmanning faggot. The 88-fags are a weak pathetic little cult and they're afraid to lose White identity as their little refuge from reality. "IT'S DA JOOZ" as an answer for nearly everything is a weakness, and it doesn't impede Jewish power, if anything, it helps it.

The 14 words are an incredibly basic statement and anyone who can't get behind them is full of shit. Just because the 14 words meme came from Stormfront originally doesn't mean it's any less good.

They are, just with themselves at the top. Whites would have never tolerated that, though, so they have to be replaced.

i agree with dropping the 88. it scares away the normies.
nothing wrong with 14 and most people would agree.

>let jews in the movement
>they take leadership positions
>start acting in Jewish interests rather than white interests
OMG what happened how come we are still getting replaced by brown people?

Not drop the 88, just hide it, you fucking kike

Most people won't agree because of 70 yrs of brainwashing to associate being pro-white with knuckledragging neo nazism.

THANKS NEO NAZIS, YOU GUYS HAVE REALLY HELPED. YOU AREN'T A WIN FOR ANTIWHITES AT ALL.

Or both, nigger. You can be NS and just not broadcast it. NS has some good points to it, but trying to get normal people to like Hitler and agree with the NSDAP is a waste of time.

The nazi larping really does hold us back in the long run. We can fight for our white homelands without painting the easiest fucking target of "Nazi" on our foreheads.

>not being an 88 obsessed larper
I think you mean not being a retard skinhead that Hitler would send to reeducation on first sight. A person who actually believes in the principles of National Socialism, and who idealizes Adolph Hitler would NOT be a skinhead, would NOT have tattoos, and would NOT act like a punk.

Modest but fashionable dress, modest but fashionable hair, and modest but charismatic speech is the characteristic of a Nazi.

>trying to get normal people to like Hitler and agree with the NSDAP is a waste of time.
It will happen eventually, by birthrates or by conversion. Hitler was simply right, and people who believe his principles will be more successful in reproduction and in life.

I see jew.

>came from Stormfront originally

>(((redpanels)))

Even talking about being a national socialist is completely fucking retarded. Saying you like Hitler is about as non-crazy sounding to people as saying you like Stalin. That's like a modern day leftwinger calling themselves a communist, they don't do it, they call themselves "progressives" or "liberals". Learn2propaganda.

You. Have. To. Appeal. To. Normal. People.

I'd love a natsoc state but we won't get there by being an explicitly national socialist movement. It might take 100 years to get most white people to think critically about natsoc, man.

Hitler was right about some things, but we need to win over people to being pro-white who are not ever going to be open to a pro-Hitler stance.

Lane/Stormfront. Whatever.

Politics = persuasion and propaganda

You are destroying your ability to win in the propagada war if you talk about liking Hitler or self-identify as a national-socialist. This is just a fact and no amount of calling that reality "PRcvcking" will change that.

>inb4 a slew of poorly thought out half baked arguments defend Hitler fanboyism

Sounds great lets just get this civic nationalism thing on the road. I think if we dont have boarders then we can get more real americans in our country. I think its great! We get the constitution and more wage slaves for our businesses!

cuz it's easier to hunt for phantom shills on Sup Forums than really think about spreading your words upon the normies

>hurr we must uphold the image of being a good and respectable anime imageboard
schlomo, please

Dropping the 88 empowers Whites, 88 was always inadvertent cvcking to the left, always. The 14 words have always been chained to the 88fags by the media and the SPLC: a persistent attempt to tie White identity to Neo Nazi faggotry has been ongoing for over 50 years now.

If you are honestly just here for jokes, you should fuck off. Ideology and ideas matter.

honestly most of the 88 ppl just shit on everything.

most of them have nothing positive to offer but scaring new ppl away.

>white jews

Great way of thinking goy!

Yeah it's true. The whole Nazi symbolism is good for triggering Jews but it's a tainted brand. Just have to adopt the symbolism of a more acceptable Jew butchering cult like Islam.

Agreed user, but also keep in mind OP is pretending that not being an 88 faggot means you'll automatically accept Jews as fellow whites, which is BS.

The 88 larpers are misfits who want safespace of nationalism to remain as broken and off-putting as thy are. Intelligent, solid white advocacy naturally exposes the 88fags for the pathetic dregs that they are.

TY

israel?

Haha not today, Schlomo!

i think that the sitiuation is not good

>we must change Sup Forums to appeal to plebs so they'll vote for Sup Forums
a fucking anime imageboard's reputation doesn't matter, David. It's just a place to discuss with like-minded people.

>Sup Forums is turning away from Hitler and actually arguing against "88"

So it was all true

>if we just submit to our enemies and denounce Hitler, national socialism, white pride, nationalism, and give the left everything they want then surely we'll win!
I've asked this in 5 different threads already, but i've never gotten a straight answer; How are you "anti-identitarian" sargon of mossad-tier civic nationalists going to get everyone else to stop advocating for their tribal racial interests? You've been screeching about how evil, stupid and bigoted we are since the days of /n/, yet our every other identitarian movement's numbers go up every day, while the center shrinks. What is your plan?

not accepting the 88 = being a cuckold

You're willingly letting traitors and enemies of your nation survive because you want to conform to the wishes of normies. We need strong men who are willing to do what has to be done to defend Europa and its Volk. Mercy and failure to succeed (a 2nd time) would mean game over for western civilisation.

Look, 88 is just a phase. I've been doing this a long time, so pls pay attn:

The trappings of Nazism were great and worked well for German supremacists in the 1930s, but 88ers get caught up in the elements and not the reasons behind them. The natsocs were stylish, hip, and high tech in their time. Instead of copying what uncle H did explicitly, look at the thought behind it.

>nazis were the bad guys.

Damn, I miss Constanzaposting

>not accepting the 88 = being a cuckold
Retarded unfounded shitposting detected

Our enemies are shit, but just because they are shit doesn't mean everything they denounce is what we should become or seem like. Come on dude.

14 > 88 all the way.

If only there weren't so many plebs who just don't get it. That the problem with the 88, it's adopting by abrasive dickheads as their "FUCK YOU" to society card. Notice how the most hardcore 88-ers will fucking despise anyone pro-white who isn't an offensive off-putting dick.

These people want a nazi safespace cult to feel badass in, not to change the world or really save the white race. They don't care even half as much about the 14 as they do the 88.

Not saying there are no decent natsocs, but natsoc is *often* just an excise for unintelligent people to larp and act like stupid monkeys.

The historical truth doesn't matter. Only perception matters. We need propaganda that shapes white perception towards wanting to preserve their race and fight against the left. Whatever did or didn't happen in the 20th century is OVER.

Once again my question is expertly dodged, and i'm forced to ask once again.

How are you "anti-identitarian" sargon of mossad-tier civic nationalists going to get everyone else to stop advocating for their tribal racial interests? You've been screeching about how evil, stupid and bigoted we are since the days of /n/, yet our every other identitarian movement's numbers go up every day, while the center shrinks. What is your plan?

>Retarded unfounded shitposting detected
triggered cuckold who didn't read the rest of the post detected

Go back to TRS

>be Jew
>be white

>implying you can 14 without 88

Pluralism is the solution. Jews who are pro-White and 88-tolerant should be accepted though not embraced.

They're tho
Jews have the highest IQ of any race, aside from controlling pretty much all the wealth and nations

I'm a white nationalist. I don't think you're bigoted. I don't even dislike NS. I just think that NS is shit-tier propaganda.

OK I read it. Normies believed in the basic ideas of nationalism, family and tradition back then. NS was not even slightly as fringe in 1930s Germany as it is today.

Also, the principles of being pro-your people and nation pre-date Hitler. You don't have to call every kind of ethnonationalist movement NS. You're putting yourself into a box where normal people won't listen to you.

You actually do need to win over normal white people, and I don't mean all, but a hell of a lot more. Are you able to do that, or have you already forfeited the game?

Nah.

accepted? Nah. We don't have to attack Jews who are pro-white, but we shouldn't accept them as white.

Nazis is a synonym for National Socialism, faggot. This isn't a fucking safe space you little cuck.

No you fucking dumb burger, the term is Nationalsozialismus abbreviated Nazism.

>there are people that actually believe this

>''you adopt the stereotypes your enemy created for you''
Except we don't. Pic related is the stereotype our enemies would like us to adopt.

>This message brought to you by AIPAC

I was thinking of an alliance with Jews, whites and East Asians.

Saying "I'm a national socialist" or speaking positively about Hitler makes 99% of normal people think you're like guy in pic. And what 99% of normal white people think matters because we're about trying to preserve White people and their culture(s). Think about it for a moment and don't be triggered. We need to use propaganda and memetics to change perception. Political victory is about changing perception of reality.

I'm right and it's obvious.

>being this retarded
It was a term first coined by a Jew to slander the National Socialists.
Not a single National Socialist ever called themselves a nazi.

>Says the semite

>guys we can't 88! think our public image!
>implying as soon as you 14 you won't get called a nazi

Why has no one brought up that the most efficient way of red-pilling is to first show them how much the media lies and then once they're convinced and can see for themselves, point out the malicious lies against whites? No one will stand for a corporation bullying them when they see it plainly

Not when they see that a large group of people look nothing like the guy in his pic. You are bending to the whims and projections of your enemy. You are playing by the rules of the game that (((they))) set up, good job goy.

>I was thinking of an alliance with Jews
Genuinely laughing out loud

yeah, but what they got wrong is that this time the nazis might win

>poland wasn't raped by Bolsheviks as well
>anything that stands against brits, canadians, and americans is ebil
>6,000,000 jews were killed, and that there are mass graves, and enough resources in rationed germany to incinerate over 100,000.
>The Nuremberg trials were not kangaroo courts which brought forth bogus charges to kill high ranking officers for war crimes later found to be committed by soviets.

I don't doubt that there were racial motivations to Hitler's ideals, or that events such as the Night of Broken Glass did not occur. Yet, the harboring of strife against jewish identity was primarily motivated by zionist in selling out of germans during WW1 and the boycotting of german exports, in a post-war economy with the election of Hitler as chancellor.

This is the logic of

"Theyre going to call me a tranny anyway so I might as well put on a dress"

Or a leftwinger being afraid of being called a communist saying

"They'll lump me in with Stalin so I might as well wave a banner about the glory of Stalin"

It's simply retarded.

But you don't have to self identify as national socialist or say positive things about Hitler. That objectively hurts your propaganda. My grandfather didn't want our race to die out and he was a traditionalist, and that didn't mean he had to mention Hitler.

Come on man.

You think they won't call you a nazi regardless? The moment you go muh pee arr and say "i'm not a nazi" the marxist takes it as a show of weakness and hammers you into the fucking dirt with it. Not to mention you look like a weak and effiminate fuckboy to the masses. When people are confronted by a weak horse and a strong horse, they naturally prefer the strong horse.

Never use "might" in your propaganda, even on basket weaving forums.

ppl need to realize that one is not cucking just because they shed the trappings of 88. I'm unironically RAHOWA, and even i can see how letting the enemy name you is destructuve. They don't even have to counter-signal Uncle H-just contextualize the era for what it was- a German supremacist movement in Germany in the 1930s.

Don't do it because you think it will stop them from calling you a Nazi (leftists wont), do it for yourself, so you represent natsoc and white identity as a key to a better future for us.

To expand
The best way to show someone how the media willfully lies, show them the media stance on feminism or social justice
>anyone but the most brainwashed faggot knows that they go too far
Then when you find the aspect they disagree with, you work back from there, debunking and disputing what theyve been told by the media,
Then start to point out that some media is government owned and still pushes the sjw nonsense on people, then ask them why they think this is
This should be dome over a period of 2 years more or less for maximum effectiveness, you should also hide your power level until it seems like a natural time for you to start thinking how you do know

>>poland wasn't raped by Bolsheviks as well
>>anything that stands against brits, canadians, and americans is ebil
,000,000 jews were killed, and that there are mass graves, and enough resources in rationed germany to incinerate over 100,000.
>>The Nuremberg trials were not kangaroo courts which brought forth bogus charges to kill high ranking officers for war crimes later found to be committed by soviets.
I never said any of this. Come on. I don't think that exposing historical facts will mean much to people. We need a practical appeal to white identity. That's what we need.

Whether or not 6 million died or not doesn't change my worldview. I want my race to survive, nothing else. Talking about 20th century shit just makes you look like a kook.

>You think they won't call you a nazi regardless
No I don't. They will, but I want the accusation to look AS STUPID AS POSSIBLE. The less Nazi we seem to normal people the more likely they are to see us being called Nazi as stupid.

Neo Nazism is not and has never been the strong horse, but instead always just a Jewish tool. Drop it totally.

>They don't call themselves communists.

Explain communist flags at antifa protests.

I agree 88ism ought to be treated as a dead movement, just like in the 1920s no one would call themselves the new Napoleon, but to say 88ers don't have a place on the right when the left tolerates their bolshies is a little too cucked. There's nothing wrong with, say, the TWP, which looks fashionable and does a great job of baiting protesters into sounding like lunatics. Anyone who would counter-signal such groups /too/ hard should be treated as a traitor.

Why should i LARP as german nazi? i am not a cuck and german bootlicker to hate my own people unlike LARPers ITT.German nazism will be never relevant again only on forums by edgy LARPers because slavic people have long historic memory and we are not cucks.

There's a difference between national Socialism and Nazism

>White jews

Dropping the 88 part is ok, though. Hitler was a loser and he crapped all over the nationalistic ideas by almost destroying the Europe.

By accept I didn't mean accept as white. Although some Jews really do identify as white, so I don't take too hardline stance a this (Jared Taylor "Jews look white to me"), they should be made to feel that we'd trust them more of they acknowledged they're non-white but side with us over the Jewry bent on our destruction.

can someone make a photoshop with the 14 and the 88 putting the 6000000 in an oven?

I suck at drawing

Exactly, in politics shapeshifting is really helpful. The left has been very good at not being thought of as marxist or communist for a long time. Sure, they are a bunch of marxist commie fucks but they have skillfully avoided being labelled like that.

The left even memed people who "see commies everywhere" as paranoid idiots.

Why can't we just deny being Nazis and laugh at being called Nazis?

Learn2propaganda Sup Forums

>Explain communist flags at antifa protests.
antifa and SJWs are the embarrassment of the left in a huge way. The actual institutional left is in power and they push their disgusting agenda through legislation. The street larpers are ignored. The mainstream left is viewed as "liberal" or "progressive" - that's 100% purposeful branding.

TWP may be better than 1990s neo nazism but they are still failing in some ways. TWP openly brands itself as fascist and national socialist. I would love for TWP to gain real world power, but I think their propaganda is kind of weak (could be much better).

Think of how the left has rhetoric about "feminist allies, anti-racist allies", etc. I'd like to get the idea of pro-White ally out there and see how many antis think of crossing over.

What does "preserving whites" or "preserving white culture" even mean anymore? There has to be something for it to be worth saving.

>no niggers in my gay bathhouse

>if i just deny being a nazi and denounce national-socialism long and hard enough, then people will see that the media is wrong about white nationalism being evil
I don't know what the fuck to tell you m8. If you still haven't learned to not fucking play their game and stop apologizing, you're beyond hope.

I mean maybe that will one day become a possibility, I suppose, but I think it's a longshot. Accept them? I wouldn't attack them but also it would be an uneasy kind of alliance.

I don't particularly want to trust any non-white person in a political situation. At best, tolerate and respect them as an individual, but don't cross that rubicon much more.