Do you think the solution is assimilation?

Do you think the solution is assimilation?

Let me explain, we're not a single race, but racism here is non existant.

nobody heres gives a fuck what race you are.

I dunno how to explain, but we're extremelly nationalistic, and we consider themselves a single nation.

We're a single country and single culture, we have no inmigration for centuries.

you can easily tell a venezuelan from a colombian, even if there's not way to determine that for race.

So, following that argument, do you think the real issue isn't the race, but actually to force assimilation of inmigrants as a more possible solution?

I do think there's much diference between a white american and an uncle tom, and both get usually fine and can work together as a single nation.

I do think there's a problem when there's a ghetto culture that forbids this assimilation problem.

Just my thoughs.

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>I do think there's much diference between a white american and an uncle tom
About 25 IQ points

The solution is asians and blacks willingly genociding themselves after designer genes hit the market.

No, I mean in terms of behaviours.

I'm sure you would prefer an uncle tom from a wigger.

As a slave maybe.

so thomas sowell isn't based?
wouldn't you love if he became the role model for young blacks?

I haven't read Thomas Sowell. I probably would from what I hear about him, but I would like them to live in their own country and not race mix or destroy their own culture by assimilating.

blacks have been part of american culture for centuries.

better accept them as part of your country, faggot.

The country was segregated by law until the late 60's.

If new immigrants assimilated like whites had and the black subculture hadn't developed, America would have a lot fewer racial issues. Fixing this now is almost impossible

You're wasting your time , americans are brainwashed, they really think "white" and "black" are actual racial groups and not just crayola colors kek

Latinos dont really have that problem, it's more about class, have's and have not's etc

It's funny how they make up terms like "afro-latinos" and try to group them into africans and african americans just because of the whole we wuz slave shit, but out side of that, there is almost nothing in common, in fact most so called afro-latinos or mulatto's from south america are way cooler and less NIGGER than africans and african americans lol but if you don't side with them, then you are a "self hater" lol

One solution proposed here in the Netherlands is to break open the segrated areas and forcefully allocate foreigners over the dutch population to spread them out. This way they are more likely to assimilate into the dutch culture. However this was considered unconstitutional so they never went through with it.
It's a difficult enterprise, even more when foreign cultures have nothing akin to yours. And while integration is often succesfull, you still have 4th generation maroccans or turks that consider themselves less dutch than their foreign identity.
A complex situation that is immigration policy, though it's never portrayed that way. Either all foreigners must fuck off or we take them all in because of humanitarian reasons. No middle ground indeed.

Here in the United States we just have tough laws and undercover racism.

Basically, and it goes for anyone from anywhere, your first goal is to prove you are a good American.

Everyone in the United States waves a bunch of flags of their great and great great grandparents.
But at the end of the day, they are American.

And we enforce that through our culture.

Nigger.

agreed, it's a moot point.

but don't you think that your own experience might be slightly biased?

Much rather have "white trash" than any foreigners, be they asian or black, both can fuck off.

I don't think we have a racial problem because people here had centuries to get used to be a mixed nation, enough time to develop an unique shared culture and heritage.

the USA has also had a good amount of time.

yeah, but whites segregated blacks rather than simply letting them be.

dunno if we got segregation but I don't remember it being here.

nice reddit spacing faggot fuck off

Exactly, you don't have a "Racial problem" because you don't have a race. You're a mutt people, a hodge-podge of all sorts of inferior races with some European mixed in. As a result, your country is a third world shithole that plagued ours with a cocaine epidemic for decades. Your idea is retarded.

How about separation?

How about stop being a fucking mongrel faggot trying to bring down Whites?

that's what I'm trying to say:
racism is non existant here because we consider all races to be just colombian.

>shithole
and yet your nation has the same homicide number than us.

because race != culture
I'm brown, but there's no diference between me and a white person in terms of culture.

>than simply letting them be.

can they maintain a first-world community when left to their own devices and without outside help?

>we have to waste our time dealing with this shit when we coud be fucking learning and training in a White Nation

A travesty isn't a strong enough word.

Latin American countries are extremely unpleasant compared to white countries, as befits the dysgenic nature of the inhabitants.

Despite having millions of white people Latin American countries produce very little science, presumably they're too busy trying to remain on top of the colored hordes, downward mobility would seem to be a fate worse than death in such societies.

Assimilation only works through submission. Minorities have to submit and accept their conquerors and earn their favor. Not the other way around. Uncle Toms are the only worthy blacks in this regard, all others are deportation worthy.

>do you think permanently ruining your country's racial stock is the solution?

wtf no

Race makes the culture, you dumb mongrel. Also, if your IQ is different, then how can you keep up with Europeans when we choose to be ruthless again in our selection?

You have had years of weak White people, expect to be humbled when that changes.

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maybe you should look at new videos of african cities.

they're doing fine.

that's common of all poor countries, and related more to goverment rates of investment on their science and academia sector.

compare china and japan investment rate over their STEM universities and research, as well as private investment.

yeah, that's what I'm trying to say.
you force your native culture on the foreign kids.

you can't do shit to assimilate the adults, but you can educate the kids into being of your culture.

Not really, if you came here, you can easily tell what race they are.
people don't like to racemix.

>but muh blacked porn

you got a point, but kids don't magically adopt whatever culture their parents are from.
japanese asians are culturally americans, and very diferent from japanese.

afro latinos, niggers and africans are culturally diferent.

north koreans and south koreans have vast diferent cultures.

america have regional cultures as most countries.

so, you're wrong faggot.

why should a black kid raised under a traditional christian white family become a nigger?

Aye, I'm well aware of that. It's also the principal guideline envisioned in a federal european state, that no matter where you hail from if you live the life of an upstanding, employed citizen who doesn't break the law, you'd be considered an european. A shame though that there is no such thing as an european identity.
At best, you can consider the european identity a collective, loose vehicle of nations that spanned over generations and centuries. Binded at times through matters of christian faith, colonial enterprise, feudal marriage and techological advancements but also more than often at odds through lethal competition that exterminated other european cultures, nations and identities. Throughout the eras, the nations that still stand have thrived and survives and here comes in the dusty,megalomaniac bureucrat who thinks he can forge one identity out of the 30 something nations through policy alone. This continent was shaped by warfare and foregoing that will not bring about an European nation. The next war though, maybe.

Maybe, there is also IQ. Because there's a difference between importing doctors and engineers and importing goat fucking illiterate imbreds.
There's also culture and religion and someone's gonna give.

even blacks, (muslims have bigger IQ), the vast majority of blacks are smart enough to have jobs in manufactoring, as janitors, as farmers, as artists, sport people, politicians, lawyers, social workers.

most jobs required by society are easy enough for blacks.

at least the ones that are about farming, construction and being police people.

The question isn't the IQ really, but more of a cultural force.

Even among american blacks some blacks become uncle toms, which disprove that being a nigger is 100% genetical.

The solution is to raise the children under superior western values than letting them rot under islamic values.

No they havent. Theyve been segregated for hundreds of years.

who's to blame for that?

>implying it's a bad thing they've been segregated

blacks were doing fine until martin luther king if I'm not wrong.
they were fine in the 40's.

something(((happened))) since them.

>they're doing fi-

>there's poverty in africa
wow, water wets.

retard.

Is that a picture of Brussels?

They were given the idea that they're equal to whites. When they were actually integrated and failed to compete, they were told it was because whitey was holding them back.

The segregated black communities weren't all that terrible. They had black teachers, black plumbers, black businessmen, etc.

>Race makes the culture, you dumb mongrel.
This is literally untrue. They have historically tended to develop along the same lines due to the fact that cultural and genetic exchange are stopped by the same barriers, but there's ample evidence from recent history to show that race does not determine culture. Cultural exchange exists. Japan's culture was radically changed after their defeat in World War 2, and to a lesser extent so was Germany's. Wiggers exist, as do african-americans who think that ghetto culture is shit and act little different to the average white american. Fuck's sake, your own country spread your culture to the native people of most of your colonies.

blame marxists and identity politics.

Im pretty sure there is racism in "diverse" countries like ours. Where terms as "prieto", "moreno" exist, and englobe a stereotype of a determined person. There was a scandal recently because the national statistics center made a research in which never before seen, they divided the academic level and income of different "skinned" people. The result, obviously was that the browner the poorer / dumber (IN AVERAGE). Everyone went batshit and yelled muh racism but the data is cold. Everything is better in Mexico if you don't look "prieto".

You people don't care about race. You'll just about kidnap anyone or traffick them.

Good on you , colombia

> the vast majority of blacks are smart enough to have jobs in manufactoring, as janitors, as farmers, as artists, sport people, politicians, lawyers, social workers.

Not as politicans or lawyers, some do but not the vast majority.

they want to get rid of nation states so they have to figure out a way of achieving the cohesion that colombia has without a country to give it fundamentals

>there's ample evidence that race doesn't determine culture

Tell that to the Indians shitting in streets or the Congolese dismantling their railroads for scrap metal.

...

Piss off you cocaine jungle monkey

>the vast majority of blacks are smart enough for most jobs

Considering the average IQ of negros is only slightly higher than legally retarded, I highly doubt that.

I'm ok with assimilation.
Black women's genes are the most dominant, followed closely by black men's.
The closer to an all Ebonoid nation we get, the better.

yeah, but is not at the levels of america where is like a sport team.

we're more like: wow, you're brown and poor, eeeh.

we're more like clasists than racists.

nice memes, subcribed, faggot.

if we look at africa, some countries seem to be stable enough and are developing, but pol then will claim is shit because (white country) is better.

dunno, got a better more practical solution?

do you realize there's diferent cultures in india and some black races are so diferent they hate each other?

nice argument, retard.

historically, africans were able to develop civilizations comparable to ancient sumerians or some shit like that.
a functioning society doesn't need all the citizens to be geniuses, only the elite.

16% of blacks have higger IQ than whites.

If this is an attempt at trolling, I guess you did a good job. If you can't even provide as many examples as I can, let alone enough to suggest that what I'm talking about is some sort of statistical anomaly, there's really no point in you posting at all.

And look how great the Spanish race mixing colonies turned out when compared to the USA. If race is just a color and the only difference is appearance, then there is no reason why Mexico or Brazil are not relevant world superpower nations. Once upon a time your countries had parity with the USA and in some cases were even better. Your ancestors made a gave mistake, they mixed with their slaves. They condemned their children and the children of their children to be mongrels, to live somewhere between a European life and an African life.

With 6 times less their population.

The difference from your country to ours is that since your birth you have been more and less the same group of people put together.

Massive numbers of migrants is very recent and is not the way our countries have been for thousands of years, it's an unnatural transformation.

And even if they assimilate, you still have the problem of going extint, every human race is valuable, specially your own and europeans genes are recesive, if you put an european population with a non european population, whites will vanish eventually.

It happened to many native americans tribes, you mixed to the extintion.

T.your dad

Some are not terrible. This still doesn't prove your claim.

I can provide you with an entire continent of examples. Africa is the most resource-rich continent, yet negros have never developed a viable civilization there. Despite centuries of exposure to white culture, they still can't manage basic government functions.

The same is true of negros in the West. You're race is simply not as capable as everyone else, I'm sorry Jamal.

uh no sweetie. At least the burgers know and accept they're somewhat racist, but our countries LARP as being all friendly and accepting when in reality any government office would gladly dismiss you for looking native. We are worse than americans, we are both Racist & Clasist. Personally I live confortably for not suffering that, but that makes me a minority in this country.

>then there is no reason why Mexico or Brazil are not relevant world superpower nations.
Was the school you went to so shit that you don't even know that the reason we're a super power is due to our involvement in WW2?

well, like a tipical burger you're a retard.

spaniards didn't want to develop our lands, they put here extractive goverments to exploit the natives while sending the commodities to europe to profit europeans.

just like africans, whites never cared to develop our lands beyond maybe some forced christianization.

also, america during XX century has worked against latinos interests putting some times pupper goverments to avoid latinoamerica becomming commies.

do you think cuba is a shithole because their own fault?

where do you think the white guilt was invented in the first place.

dumb retard.

WE WUZ EXPLOITED AND SHEEEIT PANA

>why didn't European countries build our countries for us

>they're doing fine.

most of those cities were built and founded by europeans, who i'm sure also have a hand in running things. go out to the african countryside and people are living in squalor.

even here, what do the smarter blacks in majority-black areas do when they make enough money? they leave their neighborhood, because they know exactly what you and i know.

Genocide > assimilation with subhuman filth

The reason 'murica is a superpower is that it was the only majority white country that didn't get bombed into shit during ww2.

your country is a third world shithole, why would anyone copy it?

there's even an entire genre of music dedicated to how shitty black neighborhoods are, trap.

and we had a narco and civil war, what's ther excuse?

USA is a violent shithole.

whites did the same to many non white populations.
whites still engage in the political problems that plagged africans and middle eastern people last centuries.

whites as well profited from non white lands and resources since at least the begginings of capitalism.

whites forced unnatural cultures and forced cultural imperialism over ever non white country for centuries.

remember western civilization is considered an invasor and conquerer in every civilization that isn't south america.

It wont be easy for whites when the rest of civilizations actually start demanding their own historical weight and share of the global economy.

Also, is not the fault of non whites your own women were infected with feminism (which is a white invention) and decided to not breed.

Most of white degeneracy was the fault of white people.

destroying your own social cohesion was the result of jews, but whites allowed them to destroy your culture and social cohesion.

Atheism (which is a white invention) also served to destroy religion, which is a source of social cohesion, traditionalism and common ground, since religious people then breed more.

Not our fault you decided to become materialistic pieces of shit brainwashed from generations ago into liberalism.

Not our fault.
It's all your fault.

And most cultures still hold historical grudges against your race and culture.

So, no, I don't feel sorry.

google meme cultural trade.

most blacks have been isolated from eurasian cultural meme trades.

frankly OP, i find most black people be to be likable individuals, but i would never want to live someplace where they are more than a few percent of the population.

Funny enough when I was in Bogotá 2 years ago I was in a primary school and there was posters about being tolerant toward afro Colombians, I also heard a lot of them saying the blacks from north Colombia were lazy and useless

>yet negros have never developed a viable civilization there.
I'll take this in two components
>Developing civlization
Only six groups of people ever developed civilization. Everyone else got civilization from another group that was already civilized.

>no viable civilization in Africa
Objectively wrong, unless your definition of civilization is some bullshit thing you made up, and no I'm not talking about egypt. Civilization has existed in Ethiopia since ancient times, and has been significant until a few decades ago. In the middle ages they were Christians despite being surrounded by Muslims. In the scramble for Africa, they were never conquered. It's only now, due to a combination of drought, and complete inability to deal with it thanks to the communist government that took power with the support of the Soviet Union, that they've become a shitty nation.

Resources existing in an area doesn't mean shit if you're unable to utilize them. There's a reason why the scramble for Africa took place after the fucking French Revolution.

I don't remember an indian not being able to reach the top, and most people will joke about being him indian, or even ugly, but I don't think is more than casual racism at best.

I want to apologise in the name of SA for this CONGOlombiano.
I am sorry he hasn't accepted the superiority of the white people yet.

>Ethiopia is the pinnacle of African civilization

Well, there you go. I guess I was wrong. WE WUZ CIVILIZED N SHEEIT

How do we know one race wont just completely breed over all the other races?

Nigger, we put our industry on steroids during the war, and because we didn't get bombed to shit during it, all the factories were still around at the end, and we were able to use them for non-military things. THAT is why we're a super power.

I'm just trying to explain why a country that is exploited don't magically become a super power.

they're getting a shit ton of chinese investment last time I hear.

take into account money and gold and oil and computers and even electricity is not used if you're from a region with more primitive way of life.

imagine giving a computer to a rain forest indio or some papua guinea primitive.

he wont be able to do shit with that.

a lot of africans still live in traditional tribes.

The true reason why we don't have racism is that, being this fucking poor, white colombians are as bad as black colombians. I have been mugged twice by whites, twice by browns, and once by a nigger.
The richest of us are corrupt as fuck, and the best don't consider themselves Colombian in the first place. Most Colombian scientists worth a damn have European (read: non-Spanish) surnames.
There is no real pride in this shithole other than COLOMBIA FUCK YEA without any reason behind it: the poor nigger doesn't really know of one thing that makes the country good at anything. Better yet, the few things we do have (like Jorge Reynolds Pombo or our amazing biodiversity) are barely known by a few of us. It's easy to be a nonracist when your own clan is shit too.

Assimilation is the difference between immigration and invasion. 'Diversity' in close 'proximity' ALWAYS LEADS TO WAR. Not racial diversity, but cultural ideological diversity. America is founded on a list of principals and values listed in the original bill of rights. You must hold the constitution and the Bill of Rights before the commands of your god or that of other cultures/nations. If you don't you have to go.

we don't have racial tensions or risk of racial civil wars engaging.

time to listen to non american black music, fag.

seeing as your country only exists as a proxy for jews to fuck Europe up I would've prefered if your country was shithole like the Latin Americans, at least they don't export they degeneracy and cultural marxism to the rest of the world like you guys do

Nigger back in the day Ethiopia literally looked like the shit people put in the WE WUZ KINGS memes. Nearly all of the ivory trade from Africa used to go through it. When the Portuguese found it they thought it was the mythical land of Prester John. And, as I already pointed out, they were the only African people who weren't conquered during the scramble for Africa. As I said, it has completely gone to shit in the last few decades, due to drought and communism.

>imagine giving a computer to a rain forest indio or some papua guinea primitive.

i'd never even seen a computer for the first decade of my life. do you think i just magically fucking know how to use them?

Spaniards developed your lands quite a bit. It was the transfusion of stone age tier DNA that acted as a weight tied around the neck of the Spaniards. Hell, even your current leaders are significantly whiter that your average citizen.

because being black is related to being poor.

but we don't have a nigger culture here, like americans.

nigger culture here is mostly rap and hip hop shit, but there's plenty of brown mestizos into that shit here.

the problem with costeños is cultural, not racial.

Mali, ghana during the middle ages were more rich than europeans.

>pol will negate this

Ethiopia hasn't even been a regional power in 500 years, and they've never been a real civilization.

the master race are jews, then asians then whites.

that's how the game works.

I'm brown yet have higher IQ than 90% whites.

Literally our entire country except bogota is divided by race
Choco and cali are for niggers
Medellin and the llanos for (((whites))) and the rest is full of mongrels

Nigger, that's what i said. You just added the "industry on steroids during the war" part. I figured I wouldn't have to explain that the USA industry was on steroids during WW2.

This has been the Jews plan all along. This is common knowledge for the redpilled.
>you need to lurk more and post less
>I will murder anyone who tried to destroy me my race and my culture

now you're just jacking yourself off. get back to work shill.

>whites did the same to many non white populations

No really, Europeans didn't change the ethnic compositions of the colonies in most cases.

The exception was America, because native women throwed themselves to spaniards since they didn't bring their women.

>whites still engage in the political problems that plagged africans and middle eastern people last centuries.

I've never meet a nationalist who supports any intervention, it's a leftist policy to spread leftism around the world and also changing goverments from other countries to protect your interests is a global thing.

>whites as well profited from non white lands and resources since at least the begginings of capitalism.

>whites forced unnatural cultures and forced cultural imperialism over ever non white country for centuries.

And arabs did too, and you would've do the same if you could.

>Also, is not the fault of non whites your own women were infected with feminism (which is a white invention) and decided to not breed.

I'm not blaming you, what we should do is promote births in our lands, but seems like we're not in charge anymore, replacing your population has no historical comparation, it's something new, there's something very wrong in the west.

>Most of white degeneracy was the fault of white people.

Atheism (which is a white invention) also served to destroy religion, which is a source of social cohesion, traditionalism and common ground, since religious people then breed more.

Correct, but i have to say many of it has been pushed by cultural marxists to literally destroy the west.

>So, no, I don't feel sorry.

I'm not asking you to feel sorry senpai.

He has a point, but not the one he thinks. The English took their wives to the New World; there was a general feeling of true conquest, of owning the land. Spanish women were scarce down here.
While England managed to take their culture to the US, most of South America was being invaded by men looking for money and fucking indians in the meantime. No long-term plans for culture, other than teaching indios that their gods don't exist.
What would have happened if Spain had the same ambitions as England? Who knows. It's fun to think about though...

If all immigrants were like Celtic and French Kilt Nigger and really meant it, there would be no race problem.

>muh IQ

I've yet to see any good argument that it's not equally environmental as it is biological.

>assimilation
God Damn, everyone parrots this word as if it such a simple and easy thing to pull off with no repercussions at all. The problem is culture and humans are inherently social and economic discriminatory based so you should stop trying to solve the problem by creating problems.

Seriously Porta-bro, we don't enjoy Jews doing this shit in our name or using our tax dollars to do it. It sucks for the both of us.