Universal Basic Income

>establish UBI
>everyone gets $25k a year
>crime goes down 80%
>creativity flourishes
>more inventions
>more art
>more projects like space launches and stuff to better mankind's future
>better everything since people have the time and passion that was being taken from them when they had to work 9 hours a day
>robots do all the hard labor
>people who work still earn money on top of their $35k a year UBI so people that want a better life style can have it
>everyone is happy

Also there should be a program that pays women an extra $300 a month for every child she has to encourage women to have many babies and solve our population decline problem. When they write the UBI bill they should include this also.

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I go back to work otherwise there will be bread lines because the rest of the faggots would refuse to work.

1 word: Inflation

literally get a job because everything is now more expensive

why is everyone so fucking dumb

>Let's just communism because it'll work this time!

UBI is also probably the fastest way (short of mass deaths) to tackle overpopulation. Higher standard of living = less births.

Cant wait to pay 100€ for a cheeseburger...

>bread lines
This isn't communism.

Alaska has a UBI system that gives anyone living in Alaska a check of about $1000 a year, and people still work. The trick is to give people barley enough to live on so they can then start living a life they want and then they will make even more money themselves. Capitalism doesn't work because everyone starts off at zero and most people get stuck working as a salve, but if people start of with what they need they will be able to become successful.

Something tells me that there would be a lot of inflation in the cost of basic necessities.

you have to be literally retarded to believe UBI is a good thing. anything given can be taken. just ask the Greeks

where is this $25k for everyone coming from exactly?

No thanks we have enough lazy retards who do nothing all day the way things are now.

From the government. There will still be taxes.

>>crime goes down 80%
Then why are nigs and sandnigs so overrepresented in our crime stats?

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>Own a store
>Know that everyone walking in the store now has at least 25k a year
>Raise my prices accordingly to make more money and I know the customers are good for it
>Store next door does this too because they want to make more money
>The price of a Yu-Gi-Oh starter deck is now $200
>payupnigga.webm
>"Why don't we raise the UBI to 40k?"

Who are they taxing?

sit around and play video games probably

>Why is anyone motivated to work at all with UBI?
>Where does this endless supply of money come from?

This x9000

We need UBI to happen in America as well, so please vote for Zuckerberg 2020

>Create a UBI
>IMMEDIATELY stocks fall
>The market crashes
>People don't work
>People demand more
>Money loses value
>Rinse until anarchy

Take a class you scumbag

What is my incentive to continue working?

TAXATION
IS
THEFT

Shouldn't it be "was taken care of" instead of "were"?

Smoke pot and jerk off all day.

>$25k for all 250 million adults
>$6,250,000,000,000 per year

socialists can't into economics

That sounds amazing on paper, what you really get is like 80% of the population not doing shit in life so society just falls apart. Life would be so easy that they would have no incentive to become doctors, lawyers, pilots, or to run companies or to even work any form of a mediocre job. Your grocery store would close because nobody wants to work at all, so how are you gonna get food? And then people would be having even more bastard kids paid for by the govt so the population would explode.

It would work in a country like Sweden if 99% was still ethnic swedish tho

who will pay for it if no on will be working ?

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This. You will continue to see the value of a dollar dwindle and people will demand more money. Inflation is something these idiots skip by in their classes

>25k a year

So about half of the minimum I need to survive.

Thanks a fucking lot.

Anyone who unironically supports UBI is retarded.

Me thinks you have no idea how taxes work, you can't tax the gibs to 100% fund the gibs nigger

this

If we make things too nice then people will have no incentive to improve. We need a lower class of poverty stricken individuals so that their suffering motivates the truly great.

If the working poor's artworks satisfied more human wants and needs than their burger flipping hours someone would already be paying more for the artworks

DUHHHHHHH

OP is basically just describing how cool it would be to live in a world with more wealth. Yeah no shit.

Wait am I in a slide thread

We don't. You want to see America become a wasteland? You want the dollar to die? You want the entire stock market to fall?

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The people who work. The more money you make the more you get taxes. So if you make over 100k you get taxes at 10%, if you make over 1m you get taxed at 30% and so on.

>Uganda
>India
>Brazil
>Namibia
Wow... truly rolemodel countries.
Really makes you think.

This isnt meant to make anyone's life better. Its their only idea for preventing civil war when 20% of the US working age population is made permanently unemployed by driverless cars and increasing automation in factories and warehouses.

You don't need 50K to survive, you fat mong.

Get a job, you lazy cunt.

it's inevitable once corporations are nearly fully-automated and completely embedded in government. won't happen in the near future, though.

Holy shit I can't believe I never thought of this.

>he thinks crime is purely economically motivated

The sad reality is that those shit tier jobs miserable people work keep the ball moving in this society. The garbage man, the mechanic, the guy who cleans pig shit at a farm, the walmart supervisor, the fuel truck driver. None of these jobs pay shit, and are worth a shit. But without them, many of your simple comforts would be gone.

Love it

Isn't it sad that one of the "remarkable" things they print on their bank notes is a rock over another rock ?.
A nation as worthless as its currency

obviously none of this is possible unless we kick out the jews, so if we have UBI then theres no more jews and no more inflation

>Establish UBI
>everyone gets 10k a year
>Crime and drug use explodes because people aren't working and everywhere is welfareland
>because no one needs to invent things to live or start up small business to make goods more and more industries tank
>West loses the patent race with India/China
>Space is out of the question as more and more money is allocated to greedy citizens who think their 10k isnt enough
>Robots being sabotaged
>People who work are taxed 60-%70%
> Oh how could this have happened? This isnt communism!!

>I don't actually understand economics: the post
Average household income in the US is around ~$51,000, which is more than enough to live on in most areas, plus afford some luxuries. Why don't Yu-Gi-Oh starter decks ALREADY COST $200?

Oh, right - because very few people want Yu-Gi-Oh cards that much and nobody would buy them. Any store that priced them that high would go out of business in a week, especially after their neighbor got the idea, "Hey, what if we put a big banner on the window saying 'Unlike our asshole competitors, our cards cost twenty bucks?'"

There's a lot of factors that determine the price of goods and increasing the avg income would certainly have SOME effect but you're a fucking moron if you think it would result in the kind of death spiral you're talking about.

It's like they don't get the things they deserve, yet some college liberal needs a 15 dollar minimum wage just for flipping a patty and taking orders

Just print more monies, duh.

>>establish UBI

why should we have this when the public is already owed for fair use of the commons by business interests?

BUT user WE CAN MAKE AS MONEY AS WE WANT!

>Alaska has a UBI system that gives anyone living in Alaska a check of about $1000 a year,

it's called a public dividend you fucking communist

Communism did more to solve your manchild problems than absolutely anything you can think of.

Western world got welfare? Commie scare.
Internet, micrwave ovens, microcomputers? Commie scare.
Consumerist fucking economy? Commie scare.

Seriously, everyone with a mansion was so fucking scared it was going to get burned down, they actually handed out pocketmoney, and the fuck do you know, even wageslaves could actually contribute shit if they had some basic time and education...

Once you got drones and killing algos - fuck you prole scum.

How is inflation totally correlated with the Jews? It's simple economics.

If buying power increases so will the prices. Equilibrium.

You are right that yu gi oh cards wont go up. Rent will go up. Food will go up.

the robots

duh

They will be in charge of the capital n shit too

>You want the dollar to die?

Your precious dollar only exist because of the power of your (((army))). The US dollar ain't worth shit in reality...

Minimum wage will be 40 an hour for stores, and for jobs like doctors the mimimum wage will be 500 an hour or something, since the big companies can afford it.

>If buying power increases so will the prices.
only in a greed based society. we will have robots producing unlimited everything. this is all way way in the future

The opposite of all that will happen you lazy nigger.

> people all dependent on the state
> not enough capital to own a house or car, rent, rent, rent.
> can't raise the capital to further intetests, you are even farther locked from the 1% and elites
> lack of purpose
All it's creating is a class of consumer slaves who don't create anything other then pump8ng their dollars back into the system.

Just look at niggers and their welfare. That's what UBI will do. It gives more power to the government and coorporations. Commies need to get out

>Capitalism doesn't work because everyone starts off at zero and most people get stuck working as a salve,

all people are slaves faggot, capitalism places a strain on demand through it's natural tendency to create and protect monopoly, this can easily be resolved by taxing monopoly in all it's forms

Okay. Fair enough. But if the states collapse, it's over

>>everyone gets $25k a year
>>crime goes down 80%

Niggers are responsible for the overwhelming majority of crime.
Niggers are already given about $35k in free gibs just for being niggers.

At what point to niggers stop to nig?

>solve our population decline problem

population declination is not a problem. when will the jews stop promoting an unsustainable population growth?

We don't want to survive we want to thrive. Loser

$25000 X 300,000,000 = $75,000,000,000,000

Great plan OP!

If you marry you'll have 25k more from your wife. Or you can just use the 25k to start a business and get rich which is the point of the UBI in the first place.

None of that stuff would happen. People would just smoke weed and watch Netflix like they already do.

They don't stop. It's like a machine: You can only get rid of it. The more you give it, the more of a drain it is to you, and the harder it is to fix

DUDE SHIT'S FREE
CREATIVITY LMAO

How would service industry works when nobody have to work?

>The economy is complicated
>We have enough asymmetrical information to determine the right ubi and know what effect it will have on the economy.
Liberals everyone!

They won't. Jews want the world in an unsustainable state so they can take control. Then, the zionists take over and make isreal their capital of earth. Fuck them, and especially their agenda

>everyone gets $25k a year
>people who work still earn money on top of their $35k a year UBI

>mfw this puerile retard can't even keep his little fantasy bullshit consistent

time for you to fuck off back to your tumblr safe space, uneducated faggot.

OP, you done fucked up hard.

Here, let me fix your post for you:
>establish UBI
>blacks no longer have to work McJobs for gibs
>all the rich that would be funding this leave
>liberal government tries to fund it by printing more money
>what_is_inflation.png
>superinflation worse than Germany's pre-WWII
>Atlas Shrugs
>Western Civilization collapses

He will once every faggot has 25k because that will be the new poverty baseline

>people get $3 a day for free, therefore there's no need to even work anymore hahahaha
Are you retarded?

>crime goes down 80%

Poverty doesn't cause crime. Low IQ and niggers cause crime.

>creativity flourishes

Having money doesn't make you creative.

>more inventions

Right, because throughout history most inventions have come from people on government welfare.

>more art

The Soviets said the same thing - "A Shakespeare on every corner"

>more projects like space launches and stuff to better mankind's future

It should be illegal to be this fucking retarded.

>But if the states collapse, it's over

Lel, your precious Murican dollar is already printed exclusively by a (((private bank))), the federal reserve. They're printing money out of thin air, money not base on gold or silver. It's ridiculous, but most Muricans go with it because it benefit them or they're simply ignorant and don't give a shit.

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>Remove the jobs of the working and lower middle classes
>Now they have even less reason for existing
>Their existential nihilism turns them even further towards drugs and suicide

Religion is dying, nationalism is dying, pride in yourself and in your ancestors is dying, and now even being a hard-worker and contributing to your community is dying.

What do you honestly think the average Joe is going to do under UBI? Channel all of his energy and passion into visionary creative endeavors? Get real you fucking idiots.

you are a master b8er

rowbots buiylding ampires dawg

Not how it works. I can tell you, capitalism ruined my life. If I had money to start out I could have changed the world, but I was kept a slave and had to struggle to earn little money for a days labor and had no time to do anything creative or pursue any goals.

>go to McDonalds
>$250 for a burger

Sounds great, OP.

I love the notion that everyone is just sitting on a symphony or best selling novel IF ONLY THE EVIL CAPITALISTS would let them flourish! There's a reason society prizes individuals who can do this shit.

That would be like 7 trillion dollars/year you idiot.

So the economic laws that govern the prices of Yu-Gi-Oh cards don't apply to shit like food and medicine?

>Average income has SOME effect but it's really not that much

lmao look at drug prices in mexico vs. drug prices in the U.S. Do you think average income is just a marginal factor in how they determine those prices?

Stay buttblasted about not getting free shit.

the free market will adjust for the UBI as the new baseline 0-income retard

and we already have UBI it's called welfare

>If I had money to start out I could have changed the world, but I was kept a slave and had to struggle to earn little money for a days labor and had no time to do anything creative or pursue any goals.

Stop fucking whining. Life is struggle, most men figure this out by the time they are 14.

>Op
>trying to read economics
>Trying to understand inflation
>Tryinh to understand what creates crime and """"art""""


Sage

It's based off a system of "trust" it's the same way how insurance works. You have big pools of people who keep it stable that support the high risk people. Or at least that's how it's supposed to work. Instead it's abused to hell where liberals say that proper investigations of the Fed will make people lose faith in the system.

What do I do when jobs don't exist anymore? You realize that this concept of a "job" wont be around for much longer?
>What is a robot?
>What is AI?
We need UBI you retard.

Mostly, not purely. That's why I said 80% decrees.

>everyone gets $25k a year
>crime goes down 80%
>creativity flourishes

dogshit. $25k is nothing so any living on this will still be in poverty living in dump. will drink/drug themselves due to depression.

with no job or need to work will only have more time for crime. rest of time will be spent fucking so will have more degenerate children who resent being raised in poverty and commit more crime.

creativity comes from overcoming adversity not from being given money.

dont take political advice from trust fund communists.