Obamacare Repeal Only

Be honest, do you support this plan?

This would kick many people off health insurance, including those who have pre-existing conditions.

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They need to eliminate the mandate.

The RINOs are ruining everything.

>The RINOs are ruining everything.

In other news, water is wet

>repealing instantly kicks everyone off
no it doesn't, these thing always have a time line of a couple of years.

No, because conservatives wont actually make anything better.

>july 2017
>still no progress on obamacare

lmao nice one drumpflets

Yes, this is exactly the right move. Probably the end result that Trump was always counting on desu.

Maybe. But what makes him think Democrats would work with Republicans on a new healthcare bill?

From what I understand, the current goal of the Democratic establishment is to block as much Trump legislation as possible, with the blessing of their constituents to do so.

What's essentially going to happen is that they're going to create a separate piece of legislation making it illegal for insurance companies to discriminate against people with preexisting conditions. Kind of like how Bush signed that law regarding genetic conditions. In addition they're probably going to create high-risk pools in various states.

Si.

Yeah because then republicans are forced to work on something new and actually get it to pass instead of half-assing it.

Full repeal. No need to replace.

Let it die in Q1 2018, and while it collapses, Dems and Reps needs to agree on _something_ as an replacement in the meantime.

Dems would be happy to spend 4 years working on HC with Republicans. They just don't want to touch anything that rolls back parts of Obamacare. Which is what republicans has been promising for seven years.

Kill Obamacare. Work together and call it Americare. Healthcare shouldn't be a partisan issue or legacy.

>This would kick many people off health insurance, including those who have pre-existing conditions.
Does not understand how insurance works.

"Hey, I just wrecked my car. Can I get insurance so somebody else will have to pay for my incompetence?"

DOESN'T FUCKING WORK THAT WAY.

Of course, this is the best possible outcome. Obamacare should have never happened so why would I care if it's repealed. Hell they might never replace it which would be ideal

This latest failure just comes to show you how the GOP have become hostage to their own ideology, and secondly the extent to which Obama moved the needle on healthcare. Most Americans now believe that government has a duty to provide health care. Obamacare is a public/private hybrid. It's either this or single payer, so it would be in the GOP's best interest to fix Obamacare. Otherwise, Dems run on single payer and sweep the 2018 and 2020 elections.

WHAT DID ALL OF THESE MORONS DO BEFORE OBAMACARE

The GOP has become hostage because THEY RAN ON IT.

They're careerists who will cuck out and do the politically expedient thing.

>Hey guys, I know how to get everyone on health insurance!
>How?
>Force everyone to buy it or be taxed!

Well, repealing Obamacare was all fine and dandy. But then they started saying they would repeal and replace, with a plan that would provide more coverage for a cheaper cost. They basically promised unicorns.

Then they shouldn't be making decisions in Congress and should be taken out.

Trump's original plan made perfect goddamn sense:
1. Repeal the shit law
2. Let insurance companies sell across state lines (probably involves repealing yet more shit laws)
3. Profit

Why is it so hard for people to understand that the only way you can have both lower prices and higher quality is by COMPETITION.

WE'VE BEEN RIGHT FOR 250 YEARS

>this would kick so many off health insurance

Yeah people that cant afford it.
Another way of saying it would be

>this will kick so many people out of my wallet

Yes, as soon as it's repealed it's the democrat's fault if people don't get healthcare when Obamacare actually expires a year or two later.They'll be forced to get another healthcare plan passed through at that point with bipartisan support. will it be shitty? yeah, probably, but it might be better than the last two proposals.

Or we just go back to how things were before Obamacare, remember that? Yeah, it was great.

totally support. i was way better off before as was most of productive society.

Repeal is all I want. I don't want a replacement.

Yes

Because the Government should not be in charge of healthcare.

>he actually thinks the Dems will ever implement single payer

This half way obama shit is all they will ever offer you.

additionally we should prinary any faggot that stands in the way of a full repeal.

>Not realizing that Obama and the Dems made Obamacare specifically to destroy the private healthcare market to pave the way for Single Payer

...

That's true, but not even fucking California can get a single payer thing working.

Single payer healthcare is literally not possible in America. Pretty soon there won't even be enough whites to foot the bill to keep these fat niggers alive

You fucking virgins are pieces of shit, you are all mentally abusing women by telling them things they don't want to hear... you should all be put in jail and tortured and humiliated for hurting women.

I think he said it'll be two years.

Repealing IS better

We should do the cruz amendment.

Let people choose whether to go through private or public insurance for themselves.

It's the most freedom with the best results.

You know it's a good idea because (((insurance companies))) are complaining saying it would hurt their bottom line, which we all know is jewspeak for they won't be able to rip the goyem off anymore.

rollcall.com/news/policy/insurance-companies-say-cruz-amendment-unworkable

I get free healthcare because of obamacare so i don't want it repealed. I hate obama cause he is a dumb nigger but i can at least appreciate something good he did for me

It's not free you fucking idiot.

>failed in healthcare
>failed in Syria
>failed with dealing with the arabs amd jews
>failed the middle and poor class with his tax plan that favored the top 1%
>failed in building the wall
>failed in the immigration ban
>failed in bringing back jobs
>failed in regulating wall street crooks (in fact he did the opposite, he deregulated wall street)
>failed in jailing crooked hillary

mcconnell now plans to revise Obamacare instead so that they have a remote chance of changing it

your dream is dead

>Dems & RINOs: REPEALING OBAMACARE WILL KILL MILLIONS!!!
>Trump: Obamacare is now repealed.
>Dems & RINOs: ...uhhh fuck guess we'll look like genocidal maniacs if we don't replace it fast! shouldn't have lied about it killing millions!

it's pretty brilliant

i agree get the government the fuck out of healthcare i dont want a new plan i just want obongo care cone

Anything is better than Obamacare, which you would know if you were 26 or older.

The chances of something better in any way than the ACA in 2 years has to be near 0.

they wanted me to pay $500 a month and there were no doctors that accepted it within 500 miles.

it was a load of shit for me, worked for some.
we need to fix it not repeal it.

gibsmedat feels free if you're not the ones paying taxes to pay for someone else's subsidies.

I fucking love this man. I can't think of anything besides the replace portion of his plan that I vehemently disagreed with him on, pragmatically speaking. Best possible leader for this time period.

people have contracts, they can't just be "kicked off"

now whether or not they can get future insurance is another question, but that's exactly how it was before.

This will result in single payer.

>destroy the private healthcare market
And cause the US mortality rate to rise for the first time in 30 years.

Yes, Obamacare is LITERALLY killing people. Let's hope this shit is scrapped asap.

The only reason I have health insurance is because Obamacare would have held my tax return ransom. I'm young and healthy, living in a safe environment and have a low-risk job. If I want to take the gamble of not being insured given my circumstance, I should have the freedom to be uninsured. I am what dems are talking about when they say that the cruel republicans are making people lose their health insurance.

>And cause the US mortality rate to rise for the first time in 30 years.
To be fair, this has more to do with everyone being unhealthy sacks of shit than anything else.

I realize that...but maybe complimentary would be a better word to use. All i know is that i am better off with obamacare being around. The free market has utterly failed healthcare

yes
in fact repeal medical licensing
end funding for med schools
deregulate medical machine production n trade
publish prices
allwo free market
real free trade
ban state from contrllling interstate competition
ban lawsuits

...

There are currently 5 GOP senaators who will vote no on a repeal so it looks like this is a no go.
Heller, Murkowski, Portman, Capito and Collins

subsidies, church, making deals with the hospital (extremely effective way to reduce costs since hospitals bill from insurance rates which are usually 5-10x the actual amount of their cost), begging, and then ofc going into mountains of debt. The only "bad" thing about not having insurance is not being able to cover the experimental or new trial techniques and drugs. but those are actually for pretty rare diseases or conditions usually and many times they will just accept you for free so you can play guinea piggy.

So what, let them die. It's called natural selection.

What do you fags want? You laugh at free healthcare for being "communist and socialist", but when they tax you, you complain about being taxed? The tax plan they made is a lot more heavier against the rich and the top, rather than the middle class. It's progressive, and studies have shown it benefits families actually save more money in this plan in the long run.

Yes, I fully support this plan of action. It was what I was hoping they would have done in the first place.

All the Obummer redistribution of wealth scheme will need to be trashed fully to reset the mess it created. The free market, once implemented properly across state lines, will bring down costs through competition. Medicare was not meant to be a welfare hand out for able bodied, work age, people and it needs to cease to be one. All people able bodied enough to work, need to do so, and stop being a burden on citizens forced to support their sloth. They will need to choose, sit around and get nothing or have healthcare.

rand?

>complimentary

Are Democrats seriously going to oppose a healthcare bill? Hell no.

studies show you are a moron
and capitalism works
deregulate and lower gov spending 99%
lower price and better feature = capitalism

>The free market has utterly failed healthcare
>free market
Buying off regulations from our oversized government and creating a behemoth out of the FDA while maintaining regional monopolies in a cartel style market of price fixing is not the free market.

It's a shitty idea that will lead to anarchy. Even if you think healthcare should be run outside the government, there at least needs to be a transition plan. Simply repealing and creating a vacuum in the healthcare space won't end well for anyone.

free market never failed

controlled crony communist market is not free trade

Here is what they should do. Repeal Obamacare in full. Then create a separate law that copies one part from Obamacare. Covering pre-existing conditions.

>capitalism works
Yeah America's healthcare system sure worked since 1776
stupid user

It is a good strategy to set them up like this. If they oppose measure to get people more insurance, after also having opposed all fixes to Obamacare, they can legitimately be blamed for all fallout.

Your definition of free is part of why Obama doubled the national debt.

fuck you
repealing obama care is awesoem idea

communism results in chicago n venesula n old time russia

Rand would def vote for repeal but.np senator from a state that expanded medicaid is gonna give up the money
Obamacare is here to stay

I don't give a fuck about those people. The pre-existing conditions argument is an emotional one.
Forcing a service to be available for everyone –even those who can't afford it– is, essentially, slavery.
Fuck socialized healthcare

>real capitalism had never been tried
This sounds familiar

The entire health industy has become a racket like college. Should be forcing caps on health costs of every type including medicines, chemotherapies, emergency room visits, and other services. It makes more sense to do this rather trying to figure out ways to pay the ludicrous costs of healthcare which pretty much have to be paid through proxy insurance company. Which by the way, are not even insurance companies anymore by definition. They're required by law to cover whatever you have if you pay so of course the cost of having the service will be expensive as it levels out over customers who need to withdraw and customers who never use it.

The healthcare industry has such a grip on DC that the country is being bankrupted trying to pay everyone's damn medicaid.

tl;dr force the costs lower directly at the source and knock down the entire redundant health insurance industry once citizens can directly pay for their healthcare. If you want to make big bucks do something else than being a health professional. Big pharma has nowhere else on Earth besides the US left to run. Nowhere will pay them what we do.

HAAAAAAAAAAA ∞

Trump is fucked. Republicans can only use reconciliation twice to pass a filibuster proof bill. And deficit provisions require that healthcare be done first to free up money for the cuts.

No healthcare bill = no tax cut bill.

Well too bad people like you are an extreme minority.Enjoy Obamacare, faggot

No, this is retarded

This is 100% EXACTLY what he was elected to do.

Repeal the fucking thing. We wanted him to repeal it. Not replace, not repair, not rewrite, repeal.

its no1 in world by far
canada and france are way at bottom of list
when die when get real sick
usa is no1
you have been lied to

communism of 20th century led to decline
we need to amekl america liek 1800s
gov spending 1% GDP
50% growth a year
no regualtions
few law n layers
end slavery
end child labor
total win

all ignored by bad governemtn school

This

our country is historical proof that real capitalism has been tried, and ofc it turned into crony capitalism pretty quick everytime the jewish banksters installed a central bank, and then once a hero arose to destroy the central bank, then things always got better locally.

at some point we're going to need another hero before they kill us all. They certainly did a really great job placing the migrant carrot in front of us to keep us busy, i mean it was a close call with Ron Paul, they must have been pretty nervous for a bit.

Trump managed to pass 0 pieces of legislation and accomplished jack shit

obamare needs be FULLY repeasld

fuckin senate fags

make em redo until repeasl and no slush fund
we dont want insurance fucks getting tax money

YES

Repeal only should have always been the plan.

Only recently did the GOP subtlely begin to add 'replace' to that slogan.

Health care is for niggers, I read like 80% of em use it. I'm a healthy adult male that has some of the best genes out there. I don't need to pay for your shitty genes...

Well it is not happening. I guarantee ypu the voters of Maine, Ohio, Nevada and WV want that medicaid expansion.
A full repeal wouldnt get 40 votes andd I doubt it even makes it to the floor. A libertarian world is never gonna happen

Ron Paul is scary, sure. I wonder how they felt when Trump hung that painting of Andrew Jackson in the oval office...

What they need to do is repeal that bullshit preexisting conditions shit so insurance rates for healthy people go down. Then you set up government paid insurance for people with preexisting conditions that can't afford insurance. BUT as always hospitals will choose what insurance they will accept.

And so fucking niggers with sickle cell will have to drive like 200 miles to get to the shitbag clinic with crappy punjab doctors that will take their booty government insurance. And then they die. WIN FUCKING WIN.

Can easily make it illegal to deny coverage for pre conditions. It is not necessary to make insurance a tax or to force purchase.

Here's how you fix healthcare. Dems need to realize Obamacare literally propped up insurance companies in some cases.
Here's how you fix:
>Remove state line agreements of insurance companies to compete across state lines
>Have either an amendment or action with the repeal to keep pre-existing conditions while removing the rest of this shit bill. You can put a provision to allow high risk and acute car since those aren't the high cost things in health care.
>Allow Hospitals, Doctors and Care facilities to advertise and chose pricing on their own. Allow Insurance to become more of a discount rather than black magic behind the scenes. It will force people to look at the real costs of medical treatment and see how they've been padding it. This also forces competition to start.
> Allow these facilities to source their own equipment and dictate their guidelines of care.

Biggest part of health care costs are people being oblivious to the costs. This is quite honestly where a lot of money is wasted and charges are ginned up. Doctors, especially in primary care, should have absolute control of their costs.

>turns out republican constituents like health care
>muh heart condition
>muh diabeetus
>trump legislative agenda derailed by the american diet
Poetry

I am in perfect health. I don't feeling like paying for people who aren't
>B-b-but you're being selfish
Am I? Or is it the lardass who has to check in with the hospital every month and expects me to foot the bill?
If the gov didn't buy medical supplies at absurd prices I would be able to pay for my hospital visits in cash. But as it stands it's 700$ for a 1$ IV bag.

What happened to the Cruz plan?

what did those people with pre existing conditions do before Obamacare?

Why cant America just copy a healthcare system that's proven to be succesful?

Basically anything from western Europe seems better than the shitshow thats going on now

bankruptcy, maybe cook a little meth.

Bankruptcy and death mostly.