At the current rate he loses 2020, right?

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He won't make 2020

Yep. He'll lose just like he lost 2016. Remember, its the POPULAR vote that matters most.

No one seems to want to dig up dirt on Kamal Harris or take her seriously so as of now she is a lock for 2020.

Seems likely.

Stupid is as stupid does.

At current rate constitution is amended and he never stops being president. Are you tired of winning yet?

Not against the Democrats.

They have no policy positions and they're still doing damage control for "crime with her." They keep pretending that Trump is a Russian puppet and they are getting nowhere with their shrinking and betrayed base.

Trump can win again in 2020 because that is how bad the democrats are.

muh Russia?

Nice I have a pilonidal cyst.
I want to die when it gets infected.

>thinks there will still be an election

he won't run again but will help get another republican elected

They were saying the Republicans were in a terrible state after Romney lost, I expect the Dems to back in action by 2020

Well right now they are a minority party that has been wiped out of the White house, Congress and state houses don't have a base and they don't have a message and their donors are fleeing in droves after the losses. There's turning the ship around and then there's a sinking ship, which one is this?

More likely he'll perjure himself testifying about Russia. That seems like the end goal. Find enough evidence to get him to testify to congress where he will inevitably lie about something because he's him and they'll start the impeachment process. Or the obstruction of justice might pick up something damning. Seems like the intelligence community is waiting to release their findings on everything together.

Political Pendulum. People will swing back to blue after this for a short time simply because this is objectively a disaster a so far even if you take away all of the narratives trying to be spun. It doesn't matter how a president does people usually get sick of them unless its wartime. And the presidents popularity heavily influences all other voting.

tbqh its not looking good

Here's hoping there's not a revolt at the midterms in 2018 causing the Republicans to loose the house

More like Madonna blows up the White House

Republicans have the house and senate and still cant pass a healthcare bill, that looks terrible in the eyes of independent voters, who voted heavily for Trump.

I think you're right that the pendulum will swing back, but I don't know if the democrats will be the party that the people choose at that time. It surely won't be this incarnation of the party. The dems do not have any resonance with the voting base right now and they just lost the rust belt. They have no message. The Bernie wing of the party wants to take over and the Green party is meekly knocking at the door but with greater energy every year.

The Democratic party is in the woods and they're putting on their Sunday clothes like nothing's changed. Things are very different now. They need to put on their hiking boots if they want to get out alive.

Yes. He needs to get his act together.

this seems like the ultimate endgame of Dems

If he doesn't fix things fast then this country is going to start feeling some serious fatigue.

if Dems win the House, people have said they'll immediately impeach Trump

not only is he going to win, but without illegals voting and the voting fraud getting shut down across the country, he is going to win in a fucking landslide.
and none of your fake polls will change it.

They'll be sure to rig it correctly this time. He probably won't win so they can claim a victory. Then you'll see non-stop gloating from the left, even though it was fixed. The only cure is war, and I hope Trump starts a serious one.

Absolutely but ask those same independents who they support in the Democratic party. Bernie? Elizabeth Warren? Tulsi Gabbard? There are not a lot of ideologically committed non-neoliberal left leaning politicians in the Party to garner support. There's just Clintoncrats who want the same things the republicans want: lobbyist money.

So I agree that the pendulum will swing back to the left but the democrats haven't been committed to a progressive left-leaning agenda. So the Party has to shed the old skin if it wants the votes of independents.

I don't think Pelosi will move on that. She'll have her eye on the 2020 races when she can get a Democrat in the White House. Her focus will be much bigger than that. She'll likely try to nibble around the edges of the tax code, infrastructure, and a couple of other projects that Trump may be game for. Of course they'd still have to get it by the GOP Senate and it's hard to see how that works out. It's possible that Trump goes into 2020 with no significant accomplishments.

There is literally no one to beat him right now

Until the Dems actually have a candidate with any sort of popularity, he will win by default

This.

Doesn't even matter what Trump does at this point, because the Dems are running around like chickens with their heads cut off. There is no competition.

>There is literally no one to beat him right now

Well no one they want to run.

The Democrats proved they will do anything to stop Bernie Sanders from running and you can bet your ass they'll stop Elizabeth Warren if she tries.

Yes surely the intelligence communities are just collecting data and waiting for the perfect time to strike down evil drumpf.

God you people are so delusional.

>thinking that the pendulum theory has any credence when there are actual political choices available

Warren is even worse than Hillary, a completely unlikable shrew.

The Democrats seem to think they can win elections just with money and power alone, they put up the worst unlikable candidates it's insane.

Warren's Likability has at least always been higher than Hillary Clinton though, right?

Not from what I've seen. Saw her on a few talk shows, she's god awful.

The Dems are so corrupt it's all just a big money circle jerk for them, they prop each other up, but in elections it takes the nation to vote for you, not your butt buddies that you've been trading favors with

When did it become fashionable for the media to start linking Bernie and Warren into the same camp? Warren is a liberal but she's not a socialist. Her talking points are pure Clinton-ite in their "focus on the middle class." There's nothing her statements that makes me think she's trying to start a movement.

>openly wants to ban guns
quit this meme. Heartland America would never vote for someone so blatently anti-funs.

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Yeah, but what about not you? How about the polls?

elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/elizabeth-warren-favorable-rating

This polsster shows her at 38% Not great. bit more than her 32% unfavorable but WAY better than Hillary Clinton's 55% unfavorable rating. Just a reminder that she was above 50% unfavorable at the time she won the popular vote and lost the election 'cause she unlikable and obtuse.

elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/hillary-clinton-favorable-rating

It's not looking like it. He proved he is what he said he is, so he should get even more support next time.

There is nothing there, especially about Trump himself.

The pendulum thing is nonsense. This country has been getting more and more Conservative every election.

>How about the polls?

Polls? Please.

Just watch Warren when she's doing talk shows, she's awful.

Bernie had "it", he could have won, but of course the Dems took him out because he wasn't a corporate shill like the rest of them.

Tulsi Gabbard has potential but I haven't seen enough of her to say.

Nobody else I have seen has literally any chance.

The Dems are just obsessed with money, the party itself is corrupt, they cannot win elections by paying for them.

They will probably won the house and will lose more senate seats actually.

he wins it even bigger and more easily like reagan did.

>Yeah, but what about not you? How about the polls?
how bout dem polls amirite?

Please don't conflate a public opinion poll with an election projection poll. Everyone at Huffington post who had anything to do with that election prediction poll should have been fired, By the way.

Reps WERE in a terrible state when Romney lost. If Trump didn't win the nom, who would they have had? At BEST Ted Cruz, who would have lost probably. At worst, Jeb! who also would have lost. If Dems put up a Pocahontas or some shill like that, they will definitely lose.

He'll be lucky to make 2 years tops. He will be impeached, his Russian collusion is being exposed.

Those leftist wild lose hard m nobody wants either of them.

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Not by 2020

You do know how probability works right?

If trump has a 10% chance to win. But wins anyway. Does that make the prediction bad or the just bad luck?

Even the trump campaign didnt think they were going to win.

Nothing you said is remotely accurate

>Please don't conflate a public opinion poll with an election projection poll.

It's literally the same thing, done by the same companies.

If you still believe in polls after this election, you don't understand how the system works.

>If trump has a 10% chance to win. But wins anyway. Does that make the prediction bad or the just bad luck?
except this happened about 10 times in every solid blue state.

libshits BTFO

It was one event. Trump had 40/60 odds in those states. Which added together gave him the 10% chance.

He won all the lopsided coinflips and achieved the 10%. That doesn't invalidate all polls forever.

You got that right. Elizabeth Warren acts like a fucking school principal, always finger-waving and I feel like I'm in detention and she's chastising me every time she talks. Hillary it felt like she just HATED me because I was beneath her, which I would take any day of the week over Warren.

Republicans have been making significant gains in house, Senate, and state offices since 2010. The only significant loss they've had since then has been the 2012 presidential election.

Until the DNC gets their head out of their ass I expect them to continue to flounder. The aging baby boomers that run the party will not let go of power until the day they die.

>It was one event.
multiple events, each state is an event seen here libshits confirmed for brain dead retards LMAO

She looks like she digs enough dirt of her own, nasty woman.

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I get your point, but this is all conflation. The poll predicting the outcome of the election and the poll depicting a politicians favorability rating are not the same kind of poll and they are making different points. The point I'm making is that a favorably rated politician has a better chance of beating Trump in 2020 than an unfavorably rated politician. At the time of her loss more than half the country had an unfavorable opinion of Hillary Clinton. For Elizabeth Warren it looks like roughly thirds, favor, unfavor, don't care. Bernie is at 60% favorable. These are positive signs for their electabilty but not the botched election predictions of CNN and HuffPo.

Do you not understand that all the small chances are combined for the big event? Do I need to make a probability tree?

> The aging baby boomers that run the party will not let go of power until the day they die.

Not that I disagree with you, but what did the GOP do differently with respect to this issue? I mean babyboomers still run that one (absent Trump,he's a babyboomer but you know what I mean)

>The point I'm making is that a favorably rated politician has a better chance of beating Trump in 2020 than an unfavorably rated politician.
a favorably rated democrat doesnt exist and your (((polls))) are useless.

Do you not understand that they were all WRONG?

I guess this is why libtards keep losing elections, they believe their own bullshit.

Unlikely unless the dems get their shit together. At this rate though idk.

I will only vote for him if he's up against a woman again.
Knowing how retarded the left is, he will probably win.

I still want Pence to be president. But I just don't see it happening.

So the democrats Have the white house and the congress and state houses? Tell me how are all those democratic state houses doing? What's the word from Senate Majority leader Chuck Schumer or House Majority leader Dianne Feinstein and how are Vice president Tim Kaine and President Hillary Clinton doing?

Tell me again how much in that post I got wrong. Tell me.

They've injected much more young blood. Paul Ryan, Marco, Cruz are all much younger than the top Democrats. Trump is old but he manages to put a lot of energy interested everything he does which helps defy his age.

this guy gets it. the dnc elite will run warren and trump will win on the same margins that nixon won against mcgovern

They did literally nothing. Trump ran his campaign sans republicans powerbrokers up til the last couple months. They lucked into the presidency. But that cannot govern for the same reasons the democrats cant win.

They lack a singular ideological connection. They are fighting against each other more than the dems.

Favorable ratings don't mean shit. At the end if the day Hillary still beat Bernie.

Nope, he'll get another 4 with ease. If he's running against the Rock and Zuckerberg, he'll mop the floor with them in the debates and turn the entire thing into a spectacle. Showmanship is his game.

To be fair the primary was completely rigged in her favor.

Wants President (((Pence)))

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>Hillary still cheated Bernie.

FTFY.

>At the current rate he loses 2020, right?
Unlikely.

and its going to be again.

I knew the democrats would run a puppet bernie to steal his base and now that the zuckcuck is running I'm proven right.

>cant even repeal and replace despite 8 years of crying about it
You're a fool to think the republicans have their shit together in the slightest. If they did, an outsider like trump never would have won the primaries, much less the presidency.

I don't see any competent challengers desu

She doesn't stand a chance

Trump will deserve the blame for sucking Jew cock and giving them the most power they've had in decades.

The biggest thing they had against Trump was how inexperienced he was as a politician and how a businessman doesn't mean he'll be a good president.

Now, he's literally the most qualified person to run with the most experience to be President again. What will they do now?

>Dems double down and run another minority, on the platform of "vote blue or you're a racist sexist Nazi"
>polls put them at 350% chance of winning
Surely it'll work this time

>He won't make 2020

Impeachment is a political process. Articles of Impeachment will probably happen if dems take the house in the midterms, but they have a very unfavorable Senate map in 2018. Even if by some miracle Dems took the senate it requires 67 senators to convict the president. Unless something serious comes up or Trump otherwise starts costing GOP senators votes he's serving all four years.

I'd say it's 50/50. Republicans are getting purged from the legislature after fucking up the obongocare repeal, though.

>Now, he's literally the most qualified person to run with the most experience to be President again. What will they do now?
Except he's been a disaster and week after week there's a new example of incompetence or corruption.

But yeah, I'm sure that wall will be built any day now.

>a favorably rated politician has a better chance of beating Trump in 2020 than an unfavorably rated politician

It would be nice if that were true, but it just isn't. The polls don't show shit, they're just propaganda pieces. Look at their methodologies to see how they work, they are literally manipulated to show whatever result they want.

>leans into mic
Wrong.

It does if had different polling models been used it wasn't actually a 10% chance at all and they're just lying fucks though.

These polls you can trust, goy.

>I guess this is why libtards keep losing elections, they believe their own bullshit.

Yes pretty much. I mean they know they are wrong, but they want it to be true so bad that they do everything in their power to force reality to conform to their ideals. But of course reality has a different say in that matter.

If the Dems ever want to win again, they need leadership that is down to earth, not snake oil salesmen.

I think you got it backwards. Trumps biggest asset was that he wasnt tested in politics. We couldnt look at trump and say remember how he fucked up X Y and Z major policy?

Hillary had the crime bill, her 9/11 votes, her trade votes, her failure on healthcare, not to mention bengazi/emails. And we all rightfully asked why should we make you in charge of anything ever again?

Now trump has a record. And its worse than anyones.

As long as democrats and shitskins keep attacking white people, they're not going to be voting for Democrats. They're getting louder, more racist and more violent. Even the most naive white lefty is going to have to face facts.

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>Of course they'd still have to get it by the GOP Senate and it's hard to see how that works out.

They might not want to. They'll be going into 2020 with a better senate map than they had in 2018. Passing a bunch of relatively popular stuff out of the house with no intention of it actually becoming law is a potentially winning strategy. Though if they take the house and that's the direction they want to go, they'd be wise temper themselves at least a little bit or they might end up in a situation similar to the current Republican health care bill where actually passing any of the stuff they're promising becomes a lot harder once the votes matter.

He's already won 2020. The Democratic Party has completely embarrassed themselves. The lefty media has become a joke and are losing money fast. You would have to be retarded to think the Dems will win.
The only way Trump could lose is if people vote third party, which will never happen.

He would win 2020 bigly. Not sure if he will run though. Being a president will take more than 4 years out of his lifespan.

he has already lost it

he was elected because people thought he was competent and trustworthy (compared to hillary). now people are watching him fail and listening to him lie. repeatedly, and on important matters that have direct impacts on their lives.

trump failed as president of the united states, and voters will vote against him for it.

>They lucked into the presidency.

Yes it was just pure luck that people voted more for Trump than Hillary in the right states.

God you people are hilarious, I hope you still keep believing in magic.