Honestly, what is wrong with European socialism? Does socialism work in ethnically homogeneous countries?

Honestly, what is wrong with European socialism? Does socialism work in ethnically homogeneous countries?

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Yes, it does, but because Nordic countries still have an extremely high work ethic that is cultural whereas Africans do not and Hispanics generally have a low work ethic for any work above digging holes

>white people
>working

made me kek, here's your (You)

So socialism is better than capitalism?

Also isn't socialism a transition between capitalism and communism? How can a transitional phase be a sustainable permanent replacement?

Go ask a Dane, you tard.

that's what this board is for and if you don't like my question, you can always leave instead of replying, thus bumping it to the front page of Sup Forums

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i mean we dont have alot of niggers so we do better but sadly we have a rat infestation of immigrants at the moment

>leaf

>MFW life is so shitty for burgers
>MFW their government won't do anything about it because they are worried about "losing job"
>MFW they actually think Burger King restaurants are going to move to Mexico
>MFW I have no face

>Denmark
>Socialism
Off you go, Bernout.

>Honestly, what is wrong with European socialism?
Socialism
>Does socialism work in ethnically homogeneous countries?
Lol no

Why is socialism better than capitalism, I don't understand. Poor people are just as bad as immigrants.

But those costs come around. It's more expensive for some things and less for others. Consider school is free there while the average student loan debt in the USA is $37,172.

Denmark's most recent tax rate is 55.8% leaving a worker with a $20 wage with $8.84. This just forces companies to dish out an insane amount of money by disguising a personal income tax as a corporate tax. What's the incentive to start a business if you have to pay your employee such a high government mandated wage only to have over half of that go back to the government. Makes no sense. Bad comparison.

So income is 122% higher.
And prices are only 22% higher.

Wow I guess you win.

That's the top tax rate you dingus, not the tax rate that burger king workers pay.

Are you completely retarded?

Honestly, most systems would work in Europe. But that's mostly because it's ethnically white.

Also in some regards Europe has more capitalism than America. In a lot of markets there is more competition than you would find in America.

>leaving taxes out of the equation.

Typical libshits.

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>122%
>wow

Nice hyperbole and condescending tone. I'm sure you win alot of arguments in your head with those.

Remove the niggers and spics that don't care if they're paid 2 cents an hour. The corporations will be forced to pay a living wage to keep their businesses open.

>MFW if you take taxes into consideration from BOTH countries, it's still a massive increase in pay.

>leaf

America takes care of a lot of EU states. Its really not that hard to figure out why European socialism works.

$11.25 in Oregon and headed up to $15

>MFW cucks believe all states are taxed like Commiefornia

we dont have fucking socialism, we have capitalism with high taxes and in exchange we get free healthcare and so on.

>has to chose between paying rent & food or paying for 4G internet, microtransactions in smartphone games, netflix, $500 sneakers, fidget spinners, hoverboards, bluetooth speakers in every room, shiny rims, PS4/Xbone games, marijuana and marijuana accessories, fancy haircuts, vape equipment or cigarettes, alcoholic beverages, overpriced junkfood, overpriced hipster clothes, etc.

fixed that for you. there are no poor millennials in America.

inb4 "fast food is not real work" jew

Americans really know absolutly nothing about our countries

Try buying a car in Denmark. You'll be paying nearly double, which is why you see so many people in Denmark riding bicycles.

But just ignore that and focus on the fact that you can make $20/hour flipping burgers at McDonalds! Whooo!

>what is wrong with European socialism?
More than 50% of what you earn goes to the state in Denmark. The percentage of what you may keep goes lower as your income goes higher.

I'm sure that the overwhelming majority of Americans is too selfish to let that happen.

>leaf

Tell you what, I'll take the job with $20 and 50% taxes, and you can have the one with $9 and 30% taxes, okay?

Seems fair to me.

>Does socialism work in ethnically homogeneous countries?
Anything works in homogenous white countries

>muh communism
slavs aren't white

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Fast food is work, but is not a work where you can build a career from. They are low tier job, just one step above welfare but is not a place to build your whole life.

Nordic countries does not have socialism. Nordic countries have a mix of the best of capitalism and socialism.

Its basically the closest thing you can come to national socialism as viewed by Hitler in his political speeches. Ofc Hitler ended up mostly a fascist due to the demands of the war, but pre-war his economics were natsoc and on point. He reached full employment with a nation that was into its ears in debt, nothing like the debt we see today... people were literally starving in the streets, and yet he managed to get full employment for almost 7 million unemployed germans.

The only problem with the Scandinavian countries is that they are heavily anti ethno nationalism due to the post-war indoctrination, but quite a few people here are becoming redpilled.

How many times do we have to state that us nordic contries don't have socialism? We just have a large state with high taxes and benefits.

>cant buy a decent car with your 20$/h
>have to live in an overpopulated cuckcell block
>being proud of having a career in fastfood

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and how are the prices in Denmark?

> Does socialism work in ethnically homogeneous countries

It work in ethnically diverse communities as well. There is no reason why it should not and there is no evidence that it does not work in such communities.

>Progressive tax
Which right now is not how I would want it to be. Also how the tax money is used is wrong. Nordics could have near perfect system if the taxes were used correctly.

>burgerking
>20 an hour

fake news

they have the same spending power you do, but more even distribution of wealth.

Only slightly higher.

> what is wrong with European socialism
It is unjust in that people who don't deserve it, earn way above actual value created, while professionals are saddled with ridiculous taxes which prevent them from accumulating wealth.

I'd be earning 2 times my current salary if I lived in the US, and my living expenses and tax burden would be smaller.

And it's not even free anymore.

So you can buy a decent car on $9? wut

You do realize that Denmark workers get slugged with a high tax rate. So essentially the burger king worker in the US takes home slightly more than the one in Denmark.

Socialism (as demonstrated in Northern Europe) seems to "work" for limited periods of time. It seems to have been especially useful in Germany post-Wiemar. The major caveat here is that these countries are ethnically (and generally religiously) homogenous. Germans have a very strong work ethic and are capable of upholding very high standards. The typical German will conform to the social norm without question.

I think that socialism falls down over an extended period. Reliance upon the state causes a laxity in moral values. Morality has to come from God, or it will be merely relative. Europeans are still running off the last vestiges of Christianity that BUILT Europe: their laws; the proper spheres of the sexes; Christian charity and mercy: All these came from the Church, and as the Church goes, Europe recedes into the swamp of degeneracy.

Without God, the people use sex for pleasure and not procreation, and the population falls below replacement levels. Then the aged population cannot be support by the larger youthful population, and all socialist retirement schemes will not be sustainable.

Importing foreign labor will quickly lead to disaster. The Germans learned their work ethic from Christian monks over hundreds of years. People from non-Christian societies do not know how to work hard for the greater society. They see a great government teat in Germany and in Sweden.

Christian Europe learned the values of Christ and put these values in her laws. The wicked should be punished, but mercy could be shown after the lesson was learned. The socialist state does not have any true set of values, and it tends to be too lenient in punishing crime.

ME people that are not Christian do not have the same familial values, and do not respect women or boys. It is much more common for ME men to rape young boys or females, often using large gangs to accomplish this. People from the ME will have no respect for the laws that do not punish more severely.

It's about the same. I visit burgerland often since I have family there, and atleast in Los Angeles (may god forgive me for even thinking about that god awful place) the prices seem to be about the same, maybe a bit higher.

>people should be satisfied with fast food jobs!
Fuck off. Denmark bottle pay $50 an hour and I wouldn't want a career flipping burgers. It's a terrible stressful job. I did it for over year in college and would kill myself before doing it again.

there is no minimum wage in denmark.

>It work in ethnically diverse communities as well.
No. Somalis have a 30% employment rate in Norway. Norwegians have a 88% employment rate.

eventually the ethnic Norwegians will tire of the moochers and all support for state redistribution will disappear from the ethnic Norwegians.

Also, the more ethnically diverse, the less people trust their neighbours and care for their countrymen.

Why do burgers think European nations have socialism? :')

I don't think it is homogenous communities so much as it is simply having less "dependent citizens".

Denmark, Norway etc all have smaller populations, lower imigration and thus, less people dependent on government handouts. As a result, there is a relaible tax base to make all their social policies work.

you could make a career out of it if you move into management and work up from that. It's still shit though

Sure, why not? Better yet, you go live in the country where you'll probably die flipping burgers for $20 an hour with high taxation while I move to a better paying job in a country with a lower tax bracket where I don't have to pay $10 for a Big Mac.

>How can a transitional phase be a sustainable permanent replacement?

Just like capitalism will be sustained until it can no longer be sustained due to globalization and automatization and falling purchasing power caused by these. You do it until you just simply can't

What socialists don't get is that time is not yet ready for socialism and thus it can't work because capitalism is still for the moment more competitive and levels of technology required for sustaining socialist paradise aren't yet there.

It's all about progress. Unfortunately socialists have always only looked at the social side of progress but pretty much ignored the technological side of it. If they'd read Marx they'd know that feudal and slave societies didn't jump into industrial capitalism because people just decided one day that slavery is bad. NO! They developed technologies that made slavery inefficient and unnecessary practice. It's easy to convince the masses when their lives aren't dependent on these injustices.

Ok Travis

I still have no fucking idea how the fuckers manage it while at the same time being able to export products competitively and maintaining the high living standard.

Their management must be fucking elite.

Yes, there are absolutely no jobs in Europe except flipping burgers.

Norwegians are not content flipping burgers.

Only young people with no other job experience and immigrants work there.

Well Denmark actually has a tax rate of around 57% so that 20 is actually more around 9.75 an hour.

m8, I live in alabama and people who make $9 an hour here pay wayy less in taxes. Probably around 20%. So consider this, $20 an hour with a 50% tax rate and 22% price inflation.OR at least in alabama's case you can make $9 an hour, be taxed roughly 20% and have a -13% price inflation (Because A dollar in alabama has a purchasing power roughly 13% higher than US average.) GET FUCK FAGGOT

High taxes

>small white country with intelligent, non-violent citizens

>large negroid country with retarded violent citizens

HMMMMMMMM

Yeah, even our Burger King workers are millionaires living in mansions. Of course they are.

Yes. You can.

Used cars in America are very affordable even to a burger flipper.

Actually, kinda has a point. Sure, there's other jobs as well but EVERYONE is clammering to get them since sand niggers are stealing all the other jobs

The welfare state is only 50 years old. It's hardly enough time to call it either sustainable or permanent

Have you seen a kfc or McDonald's run by blacks? Some of the most disgusting places I have been too. They will get 15$ an hour when they can actually put in the effort

>57%
Is the MAXIMUM.
High taxes == Socialism?

>>I'm sure you win alot of arguments in your head with those.

Made me laugh irl, have a (you)

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>denmark worker
>over 80% of his wage 20 an hour go away in taxes
>has to pay taxes of 300% when buying a car

How do they live? Can they afford luxuries?

Fuckers in kitchen still manage to fuck up your orders

you fucking nut wit dindus, Nordic countries are same type of nanny states than UK, not socialist paradises

Actually both the salary levels and work ethics are similar to american ones.

The only plausible explanation comes to two possible reasons:

1) Their companies are meritocratic, reward above average performances and have less income disparities

2) The employers invest in equipment/advanced methods

Its the same old story: the employer eats 70% and expects a single worker to open a ditch with a shovel vs the employer keeps 30% hires more workers and offers them excavators.

It must be it. The entire world has a lot to learn with nordfags management methods.

This.

Ethnic scandis want to work in professions without niggers.

Most teachers i work with quit teaching or move to parts of town with only whites because they dont want to deal with black and sandnigger kids.

so where's the cost of NATO in that?

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>So socialism is better than capitalism?
Only if there's a homogeneous culture with a strong work ethic and traditional values, so yes National Socialism is better than Capitalism. Capitalism's far more multipurpose though and allows outsiders/non-traditional people to succeed if they can adapt.

Don't worry, the burger machines will be coming soon. I wouldn't be surprised in 10 years that all fast food is flash frozen premade burgers from china that gets heated up by the burger machine.

Good, now just remove from your budget the costs of education, healthcare, childcare, retirement, etc.

Oh yeah, and if we are taking tax brackets into consideration, then you'd only be at 30% taxes in Denmark (including 5% federal and average 25% local), and 20% in Alabama (including 15% federal and 5% local).

So try again sweetie.

Of course, they are taxed >50% in Denmark and not taxed at all in America.

Also the tax doesn't go to anything so they are not paid to go to college in Denmark and health care is not free but actually more expensive than in America.

>What socialists don't get is that time is not yet ready for socialism
Is it actually possible to predict that the next wave of automation will actually make humans uncompetitive or just another industrial revolution that humans will adapt to?

Nearly triple

Norway has the highest spending power in the world, well, its basically the same as yours. (America has really good spending power for its citizens at the moment actually)

For a nation with a better health system and a better social systems (free school, uni, healthcare etc) thats not a bad place to be.

We dont have a good military though, but thats covered mostly by the fact that we are your loyal little nato friend. Your military is our military kinda, and we dont ahve to spend too much money for that power.

Even our poor are better off, especially if they spend wisely, which most of them dont.

>fast food worker
>expecting a fucking pension plan
Suicide is an option

Always with the muh +50% tax. Do you not know what progressive taxation means?

Yes. In all white countries socialism actually works.

In all fairness if your country is all white anything works.

>Flipping burgers
>Stressful

Holy shit, wait until you get out of your mom's basement and into the real world.

When it comes to purchasing power, salaries, etc, their averages are a fraud. The statistical variance is huge.

It sucks for low skill workers not skilled.

>Of course, they are taxed >50% in Denmark and not taxed at all in America.

You didn't even bother checking google to see if that was true before you posted it, did you?

This.

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>Fuck you got mine meme

You do realize if everyone in the country went and got a PHD in Engineering, then you'd just have millions of engineers who were flipping burgers right?

>Gets paid $20
>More than half is taken from it after taxes that pay for your anti-depressants
Nice try shitskin