How do you define whiteness Sup Forums? From what I understand there are four main compenents of whiteness. Light skin, light hair, light eyes, and aryan facial features. How many of these would you say are required to consider someone white?
Light eyes are common and the majority in most of europe, but somewhat uncommon and the minority in southern europe.
Light hair is only the majority in northern europe, but even then not consistently.
Light skin is most common in central and northern europe, but it's debatable whether meds are light skinned and how much the tan factors in their skin color.
So features are interesting because even commonly accepted "pure" whites like the nordics often come with clearly non-white facial features such as asian phenotypes etc. The ones closest to the "aryan face" ideal are the central europeans, the brits, and the meds.
So to conclude, the ones who fit all 4 criteria for whiteness are the Central Europeans and the English. If you're gonna lax the requirements a bit to include some questionable phenotypes, the scandinavians, baltics, and northern slavs can also be considered white. Anyone else such as the balkans and the meds who only fit 1-2 criteria, are not white imo.
>Light skin, light hair, light eyes, and aryan facial features I don't think there are blonde, blue-eyed Poos
Oliver Phillips
Not sure what you're trying to say my arabic friend but nice digits anyway.
Adam Morales
I won't explain it to you, it's not worth the effort, but here's a (You) and a bump
Logan Powell
>Kekistani flag
SAGE and report shill threads
Blake Murphy
>t. butthurt wog
Grayson Green
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Parker Cruz
I'm half Iranian. I am much whiter than the average Indian/Pakistani here in the UK. Still not completely white, obviously, I also have a lot more body hair. Black hair and eyes though. Am I white? Probably not. Least I'm not dark brown though.
Evan Morales
"Pure white" is bullshit perpetuated by shills like Varg.
Wyatt Reed
>Not including green eyes and red hair
Gabriel Sanders
When I say LIGHT hair and eyes I obviously include those as well. But they're both very rare so they don't affect stats much. Red hair for example never exceeds 12% density.
Matthew Hughes
Who even cares? There'd be no white supremacy if there weren't no racial IQ gap.
Jacob Morgan
One phenotype to rule them all, One phenotype to find them; One phenotype to bring them all
and in the darkness bind them.
>pink nipples
Asher Flores
In that case asians are the master race.
Ayden Brooks
I can spot fucking Somogy on a world map just by being darker loooooooooool.(the dark spot on Hungary)
Jacob Sullivan
Nipples turn darker shades when women give birth. My wife had the pinkest nipples and as soon as she was close to labor and subsequent breastfeeding they took a dark pink/slightly brown shade.
Cooper Fisher
>assumes that white race requires light eyes and hair
Jayden Ward
I assume that to be white you have to fill all 4 criteria. Learn to read, arab.
Brayden Hughes
The point is skin colour doesn't define race. They're whiter than someone with brown hair and green eyes by your stupid standards.
Daniel Nguyen
If you need to fill all 4 criteria then wtf would someone be if they had blue eyes, light skin but brown hair for example?
Isaiah Mitchell
Argentina/ Uruguay has the same chance as having blondes as north NSW Australia? lmfao. That map is a joke - the entire east coast of Australia with the exception of Sydney and Melbourne is just anglo-celt blondes. I have not seen one Argentine blonde and I was fucking there.
Bentley Harris
Every serious racial anthropologist from when the discipline was still in vogue considered pigmentation to be a secondary trait, at best useful as a sub-racial classification(i.e atlantid vs north atlantid vs nordid).
A blonde blue eyed nordid is morphologically more similar to a dark eyed dark haired atlanto-med from Portugal than he is to a blonde blue eyed east Baltid.
Henry Morris
It's a slippery slope. Like I said you can lax the standards to make it 3/4 but anything less than that and you're kidding yourself.
If someone had blue eyes, light skin, brown hair and semitic features he would look like an arab who happens to have blue eyes.
James Bailey
What are these Semitic features, because i got light skin and blue eyes but brown hair (used to be blonde) and i got all European heritage, as anglo as you can get lol
Jeremiah Peterson
>pulling things out of your ass
You're probably white if your heritage is indeed anglo.
Jordan Wood
go on, name a single anthropologist from the last century who claimed pigmentation to be a primary racial classifier I'll wait
Michael Nelson
Are DNA tests at all accurate, because my friends always call me a dirty fucking jew so i need to make sure im no kike
Anthropologists only recognize 4 races (caucasians, mongols, abos, and blacks). Whites are often considered a subgroup of caucasians and the main differentiating factors are hair and eye pigmentation.
I heard that when they ask you if you want to allow research teams to use your DNA, you need to decline, cause theoretically they can sell it to insurance companies who can then deny you services based on risk factors.
Jason Rogers
Those are from bolivia. They come to my country for free education/healthcare/welfare.
Xavier Reed
way to avoid my question those are some of the major racial classifications, indeed based on skull structure, but even at the sub-racial level skull metrics were still the most important factor to determine race and to distinguish between Europeans and non-Europeans why do you think they made the distinction between Nordids/Meds and Alpines?
Eli Clark
Lmao. If the average med moved to Germany/UK/Norway etc do you think he'd pass as a native or a refugee? I can guarantee people can't tell the difference between you and Ahmed. Stop kidding yourself.
Adrian Torres
Like I expected you're a cuck who badly wants to be white. However you're more likely to pass as a native in Tunisia than as a native in Sweden. It's time to grow out of your delusion.
Nicholas Sanchez
yeah sure
Jayden Bell
like I expected from that flag, you are butthurt and illiterate about the subject you want to discuss I couldn't give two fucks about being le white, I'm probably more morphologically Europid than your spic-negroid mongrel heritage will ever be
Kayden Price
There are many European sub races For example Dinarids are taller than anyone else, they have a bigger nose, a bit different skull structure than Meds for example who are shorter, who have a smaller nose and a different skull structure. Watch this : youtube.com/watch?v=Tfq3XjwDqa8
Luke Price
30 years ago it was the population has shifted in the last 30 years and that map is not valid anymore as it happens everywhere, white people is the most successful and rich, and the ones that have 1 kid or no kids at all meanwhile the brown people are the ones that live in poverty and the ones that have 14 kids
all of South America is going down the drain, and there's nothing to do about it
in another 30 years, we will look exactly like bolivia
Ian Robinson
indeed, and they are determined first by skull morphology and facial indices, then only secondarily by pigmentation, that's my main point
Owen Campbell
Dude who are you fucking kidding. The average Italian will stick out like a sore thumb in Northern Europe. And the same applies to the reverse scenario.
Daniel White
Honestly Guido, it's his spic-negroid mongrel heritage vs your arab-negroid mongrel heritage.
Liam Jenkins
and we're a window into your future, in 50 years your country will be 60% chinese and shitskin
Bentley Long
and? I am native to south Europe, I don't need to look like a north European Europe is actually varied, unlike the mongrelized shitholes of the new world
nice projection
Luke White
Does brown hair, blue eyes count?
Tyler Powell
>Europe is actually varied
Which is why the white label is reserved for people of central-northern european ancestry. Historically this has always been the case, meds were never considered white, and when meds immigrated to white countries like Australia and the USA, they were treated as a different race, and often discriminated against.
Hunter Baker
nobody cares, the topic was another, and was about how to actually determine "whiteness" without referring to documented ancestry
I referred to you to the sort of approach traditional anthropologists followed, but being a chimp you couldn't follow a simple argument.
btw, the Irish were treated no differently from Italians, are they also racially non-white? by what metrics?
Jeremiah Hill
Test test
Hunter Green
Anthropologists don't even recognize whiteness you stupid fucking guido.
You literally have no argument for being white other than being an ugly brown manlet who wants to elevate his status by associating with the cool kids.
Who looks arab, acts arab, but is a christian? An Italian!
Lucas Morgan
>Anthropologists don't even recognize whiteness you stupid fucking guido. indeed they don't, that's why I was trying to put you on a right truck pearls to pigs
>You literally have no argument for being white I don't care about pathetic rootless new world mongrel pseudo-identities such as "whiteness", especially when I'm Italian. I don't certainly have to measure myself with le whites.
Gabriel Sanchez
>I don't care about pathetic rootless new world mongrel pseudo-identities such as "whiteness", especially when I'm Italian. I don't certainly have to measure myself with le whites.
Ok so now you backtrack a bit. At least this is a somewhat more intellectually honest statement rather than "hurr durr the european race".
Sebastian James
Native Europeans are white. End of story
Logan Johnson
/thread.
Anthony Stewart
This End of thread.
Also, cultures, literature, history, and inventions therein are strictly "whiteness".
Lincoln Hughes
Egypt and the levant have a richer history than northern europe. Are they white too?
Brayden Martinez
Of course not. They are not native European. Of course, that's not necessarily a bad thing.
Gavin James
Nope. Just the regions belonging to native Europe.
This is the (France is Norman and historically Germanic) Germanic, Gaelic, Saxon, Scandinavian, and some Mediterranean regions.
Middle East is "Asian" though they have very little common ancestry with modern Asians. Or "orientals" as the brits call them. Persians would be a more applicable statement. Persians and Arabs reside in Egypt and Levant.
Christopher Gutierrez
>arbitrary distinctions
Oliver James
European genetic markers. How hard is that to understand?
It's not rocket science. Phenotype is indicative of race, but it's not the be all and end all of racial identity, as there are multiple phenotypes that are "white", and a mixture of those creates innumerable additional hybrid phentypes while still being purely white in genetic makeup.
Cameron Moore
What the fuck is arbitrary about that? There are obvious distinctions.
Cooper Wilson
The only common factor that I can see between europeans is religion.
Parker Cook
I have blonde hair and brown eyes, does that count? I'm I whiter than someone with dark hair and blue eyes for example? Just curious.
Liam Davis
And obviously my skin is white and my facial features are European.
Elijah Myers
Light hair is rarerer than light eyes, so in my book, yes.
Aaron Edwards
Fuck borders, we just need a shit-line.
Samuel Bennett
Did you even read ??? First of all, their genetics are quite different to Europeans, and secondly, it's not just about race. Sure, they are Caucasoid, but they share no common history or culture with us, and again, different genetics.
Dominic Hughes
Now you're just grasping at straws. Greece, Rome, Byzantium, Vikings, Nazi Germany etc all had powerful steaks in the middle east.
Nicholas Stewart
>How do you define whiteness Sup Forums?
European genetics + Christians identity. Sicilians are no less white than Saxons.
Mason Mitchell
Right, and us bongs controlled vast amounts of land in Africa until 50 or so years ago. That does not give us common history or culture with Africans, does it? >Now you're just grasping at straws How am I grasping at straws? Why don't you prove what I said to be false.