most eastern europeans i talk to dislike socialism and socialist policies but east germans are a strange exception its quite strange amount of ex-east germans seem to have a weird form of nostalgia even those on the right wing could a german friend please explain why this is the case
also please explain pic related why do people who openly call themselves socialist get such a fair chunk of the vote of the vote in these regions no less?
>Die Linke has never been even in parliament for its entire existence in Bavaria >SchulzPD is meme tier opposition Eastern Germany eternally BTFO.
Anthony James
Germans are an exceptionally honest and peaceful breed. A socialist system would work out if it was just us. And that's just what the GDR was. Poor, but happy.
Jaxson Barnes
>poor but happy >what is the fucking Stasi? Is that what your parents told you about the GDR, Jeremy-Pascal? I swear to god, socialist nostalgist are the fucking worst. At least we're not as filled with them as Russia.
Tyler Cox
Stasi was a secret police, an undemocratic society can't really function without it. The nationalist paradise you want Germany to be would need a secret police as well.
Ayden Miller
>fuck the police hello antifa
Jace Bailey
>The nationalist paradise you want Germany to be would need a secret police as well. Where in all heavens did I claim I want a "nationalist paradise"? A secret police is only needed if you have a incredibly centralized government that needs to keep its power by force. The more decentralized and self sufficent governing is, the less control is needed.
Liam Williams
>EU flag >likes the Stasi Gee, who would have seen that one coming?
Josiah Brown
This
Tyler Brooks
>decentralized and self sufficent
In other words, democratic.
Caleb Myers
You're free to leave.
William Roberts
>infecting another country with a german A crime as far as I am concerned.
Ryder Anderson
>democracy >self sufficent Democracy requires heaps of bureaucracy. Just because it is heralded as the opposite of dictatorships and fascism doesn't make it that. Democracies are nothing more than dictatorships that cover that fact by granting people a small voice. In the end they can only decide who is in charge of limiting their rights and taking away their money.
Isaac Kelly
What blithering nonsense. Every German citizen has political power, and many of us utilize it. Not my fault you're a social retard whose autism made him believe tyranny is unavoidable.
Instead of insulting me, how about you actually tell me what power the German citizen wields? Changing the ruling party means jackshit. Not only will the overall system stay the same, now they even have the power of influencing people into voting them through state media. Do you think the ARD and ZDF are fucking non biased? The government is shilling nonstop against the AfD so they won't be challenged for their power. It goes so far that if you disagree with the state media narrative you're called a lunatic and or extremist. How in all heavens can you claim that the people have political power if there are so many tools for the elites to influence them?
Nolan Hernandez
Free democratical system. Feel free to inform everyone about that they are lied to and feel free to find your own party and try to gain the power to change the system. Whining that everything is wrong and that it can't be changed will get you nowhere idiot.
Austin Diaz
Look at the AfD. It's an uphill battle. You're getting defamed and blackmailed and there are even fucking cases of people losing their jobs over supporting them and liking their facebook page. I'm sorry I don't want to risk my entire life just so I can champion a good cause with the democratic means the glorious state has granted us.
Oliver Rogers
didnt some anti free speech laws get passed that was connect to the gay marriage bill?
I cant speak for democracy as a whole, I know other kruat is right about bureaucracy, its more about who right the bill then signs it, and it doesnt help that you live in one of the most free speech restrictive countries in the west. Kinda ironic if you think about, especially so since those laws are probably meant to stop antisemitism and neo-nazis but in reality restricting free speech hurts evreyone
Hudson Brooks
it is like they were controlled by Communists or something....
Camden Hughes
Yeah, the law made it easier to persecute people that commit hate speech in social networks. And you're right, these limitations and laws hurt both sides, but it's dependent on who is in charge. These laws are looking like a setup for going full Reich mode, only that lefties are using it this time.
Nathan Collins
because east germans are communist rape babies
Brandon Harris
this...
eastern germans generally hate "establishment parties" and will vote anything outside of it, left and right
Eli Smith
I can tell you that in czech rep and slovakia it is the same as well. You just havent talked to enough people.
To be honest I have a bit of this nostalgia in me as well. Overall, current democracy is better than socialsm, but not in all aspects.
Jonathan Gonzalez
I'd rather be poor than 'enriched'. That being said the DDR was a failed state like every other leftist country.
Ryder Gutierrez
East Germany hates religion and wants a wall.
Muslims don't like those sorts of things.
Levi Baker
>The East votes Die Linke Obviously, they want muslims aswell.
Kevin Butler
>reading about all those West German socialist cucks who fled to east Germany >the schadenfreude knowing they probably regretted it in an instant and not allowed to go back
Connor Green
Poland loves socialism and EU shekels
Matthew Moore
So you are not even willing to try? Guess that put's you in the same place as the retards not even voting and trying to tell everybody why the wrong people are in chrage. Every change has to start somewhere and if you want change work for it or STFU.
Ian Roberts
>its quite strange amount of ex-east germans seem to have a weird form of nostalgia even those on the right wing could a german friend please explain why this is the case Easy. East Germany was the least cucked country of our cucks, we didn't control them as much as Poland or Hungary. Serbs love socialism too because they were sovereign, and, obviously, Russians and some of the Soviet Republics. Ironically, the Ukrainians have a rather high approval of it.
Tyler Martin
Because east Germany was annexed into eternal shame and self-humiliation land. Of course they long after the time when their Germany at least had some amount of self-respect. Since the last time they had that was under socialism, then socialism must have been the reason.
Henry Bell
The Stasi were the most brutal and conniving organization to ever exist in Europe. 70% of the GDR population worked for them directly or as informants. Look up Zersetzung.
Jack Ward
90% of russians want USSR back. Those 90% vote for commie Putin.
Michael Young
tell me about it half of the old people here are gommie nostalgics who miss the gibs the kind of trash that retires at 50 after NEETing their entire life and complaining about not having a big pension
Lincoln Powell
>nostalgia It doesen't necessary means the liked socialism. More like the simple way of living under it. Not for the actual system. Cunt.