Nihilism is the ultimate bluepill

If there's no meaning and no purpose then you cannot fail and thus have no responsibility. You can be a NEET or a billionaire, you can be weak or strong, you can be ugly or beautiful, it won't matter because nothing matters if nihilism were true. It's the ultimate cozy philosophy that lets you excuse yourself from duties that require sacrifice and going beyond oneself.

Other urls found in this thread:

youtube.com/watch?v=1rXDoG80xUc
youtube.com/watch?v=zjkgD4w9w1k
youtube.com/watch?v=mqSV72VNnV0
twitter.com/SFWRedditImages

Nihilism is philosophical suicide, it's the root behind why pushing degeneracy and postmodernism worked in the first place, cunts like you stopped caring.

...

but it's the only scientifically truthful ideology so it's the opposite of a blue pill. a blue pill is a comfy lie you tell yourself about reality

Nihilism looks at the world through a practical lens. The neet and billionarie are going to decay and the universe will continue till heat death. You can not like it, but reality gives no shits about your feelings.

No the moronic concepts of justice are pushing that.

fpbp

t. Atheist
This is correct. I hate atheists because this is what it becomes in time.

>there's no intrinsic value
>there's still instrumental value somehow
you're going to have to choose: youtube.com/watch?v=1rXDoG80xUc

You have moral duties and this will require sacrifice, suffering, and frustration. You can not like it, but reality gives no shits about your feelings.

sacrifice and suffering are a meme preached by those who will never subject themselves and their families to sacrifice or suffering. they do need slaves around to acommodate their desired lifestyles

No, the deceptive Marxists talking about justice to nihilists who didn't give a second though and just accepted pretty words did this.

Despite being a Christian, I can accept not all atheists are nihilists although the ones that aren't are probably closet agnostic at least.

fpbp
become an integrist

>I can accept not all atheists are nihilists although the ones that aren't are probably closet agnostic at least.
I'm fine with atheists as long as they keep it to themselves. They never do, and that's what disgusts me. Spreading nihilism and destroying the culture of a place is never good.

I don't know why it isn't obvious to edgy teenagers, but nihilism is a self-fulfilling mindset. Your life will have no meaning if you live as though it doesn't. It's not fucking hard

>Is life worth living?
>DEPENDS HOW YOU LIVE IT

The only thing I have to do is survive, even then that's not a requirement it's my choice. Happiness is a preference but I have no obligation to be happy if I don't want to be. Physical limitations are the only thing that exists, the only reason else why I could be limited is other people with the power to do so say the government doesn't want me to do certain acts.

>You have moral duties and this will require sacrifice, suffering, and frustration. You can not like it, but reality gives no shits about your feelings.

Once again, what duties do I have to do that can be proved tangibly.

your life either has meaning or it doesn't. if you pretend it does, it won't suddenly have one.

But Marxism literally is about right and wrong with the wrong being the bourgeois and the right proletariat. Some nihilists became anarchists, but anarchists have always been a pretty minor force to history.

It's not about "pretending" it does. If you don't live as if your life has meaning, then it will not. Accept the possibility of the existence of an abstract ideal way of being. Strive for that ideal. Recognise which ways of being work and which don't. Trust yourself, the kingdom of heaven is within you. Life won't get easier, but it will get more meaningful. Shoulder some responsibility.

That's how you get SORTED, bucko

this reeks of projection

he's a high school dropout who calls everything he doesn't like "Marxism". ignoring the fact that degeneracy is caused by excessive personal liberties, not an authoritarian state system

bullshit Hallmark wisdom for senile old ladies
humanity and this entire planet will perish in what is dog years for this universe and nothing, absolutely nothing you have done will have mattered except in the very moment you were doing it

“when men cease believing in God, the problem is not that they will believe in nothing. The problem is that they will believe in anything"
-G. K. Chesterton

The shitty thing about nihilism is you eventually realize while yes, nothing matters, you can't have both. Either shit like money and power and family matters to you, or it doesn't. All of it. You can't pick or chose or you aren't following.

Everything comes back to God. Every genius, every philosopher will tell you there is no explanation to anything and it is all subjective. You make the world you live in, quite literally.

If you walk around hating everything, your life is going to be just that. Start meditating. Start getting your mind healthy. There is light.

>reality is blue pilled
You need to go past the nihilism and do shit even if it doesnt matter in the end.

projection of what? you think i'm a high roller? or a retard who fell foe the sacrifice meme and exists solely to accommodate a high roller's physical comfort?

Can I let you in on a secret? All authoritarian mindsets come from not keeping it to yourself, whether you're a Marxist and you suddenly realised everyone would feel better if all those better people didn't exist or if everyone followed your specific way or if you could just keep the niggers away from you.

Learning to keep to yourself is how you pass that and stop giving a fuck about some atheist trying to justify their dumb shit.

>Marxism literally is about right and wrong
In Marxism, there are admittedly not nihilistic Marxist believers and then there are idiots or some "smart" people that have literally turned off with nihilism, but turn it back on sometimes to spite you and show you they were still right before. I know the nihilists tricks, they want meaninglessness because meaning scares them, seeing passion scares them.

>nothing you have done will have mattered
It will have mattered to me, while I was alive to care. That's all that matters, that's what "matters" means. Why do you worry about a future you will never have to see with your own eyes? Your cosmic insignificance is just a cause for humility.

Clean up your room, you'll feel better. Get over the notion that everyone who is happy and gets meaning out of life is just a naive idiot that has deluded themselves into satisfaction, and that it's just miserable people like you who have it all figured out.

If nihilism is true you don't have to do anything. You can commit suicide or live to 100, it doesn't matter. It would all be just as meaningless as it was before. Being happy or sad along the way towards death is meaningless. Thus, off the hook entirely. No responsibility. No worries. The ultimate bluepill.

>proved tangibly

Moral Realism: Defended
>youtube.com/watch?v=zjkgD4w9w1k

self-deception only works when you have a low iq

>nihilism
>not going beyond oneself
it's like you haven't read Nietzsche AT ALL. his solution for nihilism is becoming the ubermensch

Well, I would say depression is the first step of nihilism, just like the picture implies.

As a kid, you start off believing something stupid like "there's a sky dad who cares about me and watches my every move, so if I'm a good boy, sky dad will recognize it". Then you find out Santa isn't real, and it makes you question god. If you have a strong will and mind, you will realize god is not real. If you are a dumb, gullible shit that wants a safety net, you will double down on your delusion and find every excuse to believe it.

So during the realization phase, there is depression. Nothing matters, it's all the same whether I win or fail. Then you do accept that nothing truly matters in any inherent sense, and the second picture is true. That nothing really matters means nothing really holds you back from doing precisely what you want to do. You can form your beliefs based on personal subjective worths. Sure, they have no inherent value, but they do have value to you. So you build your moral codes based off of them, become a strong person within the ruleset current society gives you, and make your own way in life.

You can absolutely be a nihilist that adheres to right wing moral principles. I do it every day. I just don't base it on believing in sky dad. The only bluepilled thing to believe is that you're so scared of the idea that you can't logically declare that there's inherent objective value, so you make up fictional characters to justify your own moral code.

Religion is bluepilled bullshit. It is the epitome of bluepilled. It is running away from reality because it scares you. It's comforting fairy tales.

>off the hook
and this bothers (((you))) because you cannot manipulate someone like that

The fact that there is basically no correlation between personal values, happiness etc.. and IQ should tell you just how important the parts you don't understand are.

you don't just decide to be nihilistic. it's the reality of the current mental state of european people. can you retards please read Nietzsche just a little bit before acting like nihilism is a conscious decision that people make because "they don't care"

so thess values are meaningless
why would a smart man share the values of a retard?

where is our gomunizm general? i hope ou are ok broders.

But they don't care, user.

They are carelessly watching civilisation collapse due to some nice sounding sentiments from evil people.

You realise we're in trouble?

This. Nihilism is just acceptance of the truth instead of being a faggot over every tiny thing you don't like.

Nihilism is akin to staying in bed too long mentally. The mental fork in the road is ahead of you, not behind you. It's an unwillingness to engage with chaos.

You can be weak, strong, whatever, you will die. Create progeny and that is all that matters, until they inevitably die with the rest of humanity. That is your legacy, and you don't need to be rich or strong to leave it.

You define your own existence, and life does matter in-and-of itself, but objectively it doesn't.

>If there's no meaning and no purpose then you cannot fail and thus have no responsibility.

Go on

>You can be a NEET or a billionaire, you can be weak or strong, you can be ugly or beautiful, it won't matter because nothing matters if nihilism were true.

Go on


>It's the ultimate cozy philosophy that
>lets you excuse yourself

Nihilist does not believe he has to excuse himself

>from duties

Nihilist have no duties

>that require sacrifice

Niche calls sacrifice a part of untermensch philosophy.

>and going beyond oneself.

Niche says all conviction must originate in your own being.
No other duties or value. You create it.
He says "woe to the thinker that is like the soil that sprouts unwanted weed"

civilizations collapse all the time. have you not studied even a bit of history? just 2000 years ago most of North Africa was associated with a white Hellenic race (the Carthageans)

They are the ones behind (((nihilism))) you fool.

With nihilism you are demoralized and that's step 1
>youtube.com/watch?v=mqSV72VNnV0

Nihilism doesn't mean not fucking caring about anything, ffs

> nihilism

Thats actially the basis of Budha's teachings user.

Sup Forums likes simple philosophies for simple people. I've never seen a philosopher Sup Forums likes that actually requires a modicum of awareness or effort to appreciate. It's why every 'reading list' they post doesn't include any works in the past 300 years

If they're meaningless why do they have different results when acted out in reality? The way you think of meaning is very religious despite the fact that I am sure you don't belive in god, so there's no big sky man who will high five you when it's over, well of course not. Why would you care if there was? Why do you care about meaning other than how it relates TO YOU in the first place?

I love how you guys always fall back on this stupid fucking argument like it just settles everything.

If I told you jews are the ones that want you to be right wing and what they REALLY don't want you doing is being a cuckold, would you go ahead and be a cuckold you dumb faggot? Because some(or even all) jews want something is not a valid argument for not doing it. Asserting that everything you don't like is a machination of the jews is only going to fool the dumb shits on this board.

i'm not an atheist, i just don't believe in abrahamic gods
i can easily believe some Sumerian ayy intervention in the development of this planet

It's why you never see Kierkegaard posted on here, despite the fact that his philosophy would be extremely compatible with most religious people here.

>why would a smart man share the values of a retard?

What is stopping that? Are values scientifically derived? You're a fucking monkey who only stopped caring about death by snake bite a few thousand years ago, even the smartest among us are limited by their biology as that.

It doesn't scare us, if anything you seem more threatened by us.

>If nihilism is true you don't have to do anything. You can commit suicide or live to 100, it doesn't matter. It would all be just as meaningless as it was before. Being happy or sad along the way towards death is meaningless. Thus, off the hook entirely. No responsibility. No worries. The ultimate bluepill.

Once again, that is correct this is a part of living. If you commit suicide 100 times, the only thing that we know is that you die, that's it. YOU are personally responsible for the actions you take. If you want to live by some code that's fine it doesn't matter to me however that's a choice you're making for you.

> step 1

For what?

Like I give a fuck if a jew rules over me or not... he does anyway and wilclforthe rest of my life. I cant see how raging over it on the internet or pretty much anywhere changes something for me.

>limited by physical reality
yes that's why smart men need gullible cucks to provide them with resources for a maximum pleasurable life experience

That's nihilism understood by retards.
The idea behind nihilism is that everything is meaningless which is a revelation that put enough fear into you to create meaning.
It like most philosophies or ideologies fails to account for the common man.

As such for it to have value as a philosophy meant for the advancement of society it must be tempered and presented in such a way as to present the common man with meaning.
This is where the National Socialist interpretation of the ubermensch came from, as a state to be achieved by the German people to prepare them for the implications of nihilism.

why would absolute freedom scare you?

>some user accuses me of being one of (((them)))
>I use their own logic to show that actually they are behind nihilism instead

For somebody who seems very thirsty for something a bit more intellectually sophisticated you certainly don't seem to notice it when you see it. Sort yourself out.

Most people with the means and extreme wealth don't spend their days smoking fat cigars out of hookers buttholes. Most decide to raise a family and devote their time to worthwhile pursuits. Perhaps it's because this gives them meaning beyond a momentary climax. Meaning is an evolutionary instilled reward for living in an ideal way. Now, you can argue what that ideal looks like, but to say it doesn't exist because you have yet to materialise it is a leap and at odds with most other people's perception of reality. Of course nihilism is over represented on Sup Forums, though.

It's a perfectly valid argument. The Jews have made a mess of the world and caused untold pain and suffering. Denying them their wants is a valid concern.

You make this bizarre analogy about cuckoldry which totally misses the point. The Jew doesn't want white men and women to be strong, so it's asinine to even imagine a scenario where they'd want the opposite. If Jews wanted white men and women and their culture to be dominant, there wouldn't be an issue. However we don't live in your analogy. The Jew wants a homogenous society -- except for themselves, so they can be the only unmixed "pure" race.

>Learning to keep to yourself is how you pass that and stop giving a fuck about some atheist trying to justify their dumb shit.
I do keep to myself. When someone tells me they're atheist, I don't try to convert them or anything. I don't care unless they push it onto others. It's a dangerous thing to have a population of demoralized nihilists. I agree on your point that not all atheists are nihilists, but many still are. Most Liberals and Leftists are atheist. Communists have to be atheist as a requirement in the first place. I don't go around proudly saying "I'm Christian" because America was founded for white Christians, not atheists. If there is a valid concern with a religion, I'll hear it, but they bitch about things solely on "muh feels". Gay acceptance and promiscuity destroys the family unit and spreads disease. A lot of Atheists support "civil rights" like these. A lot of them want to destroy Christianity just for the sake of it. Maybe they want to "redistribute" the money they earn. They want to destroy my nations culture, and, eventually, it's people. I'm still keeping to myself if it's in self defense.
“In Hell there is Democracy, in Heaven there is a Kingdom.” Hierarchy is important.
I agree that authoritarianism isn't about keeping it to yourself in a way, but on the other hand, it is, but by giving order, if that makes sense. The goal is to help people keep it to themselves since if a group is divided, it's weaker.

Try check out the link I put when I said that:
>youtube.com/watch?v=mqSV72VNnV0

It's step 1 for ideological subversion. It's how commie scum would attempt to take over a nation from the inside.

>rejects hierarchy
>who cares if jews lord over me at my expense?

Being limited by your own biology is different than being limited by physical reality. We are literally unable to comprehend the full magnitude of our reality, that is for sure. The limitation is us in nature, not nature itself. Nature is infinitely complex.

This is dumb. Nihilism is the central pillar of postmodernity decadence and degeneracy.
It enables (((them))) to steer the cattle.
As posted above...
>“when men cease believing in God, the problem is not that they will believe in nothing.
>The problem is that they will believe in anything"
>-G. K. Chesterton

'absolute freedom' doesn't exist. Freedom exists, but in a microcosm. It's that hard choice you have to make when there are multiple outcomes you have, and past experience can't dictate your choice.

Best example I can think of is the UT sniper. He knew something was wrong with him, he had an overwhelming compulsion to kill, but he knew it was wrong. He had a massive growth in his brain affecting his fight or flight responses. He literally could not stop himself from killing people, but he knew it was wrong and still had a choice. His choice was to either kill or commit suicide. Once he killed, the choice was over, the only thing stopping his behavior, his self-control, was gone.

That is the nature of freedom, it is a transient experience rather than a constant.

>who will never subject themselves and their families to sacrifice or suffering

ahahhahahaha sure thing raising a family in between pizza parties and doing the cleanest drugs available
>reward
another meme manipulation technique for tards

...

live your life by your current trends, see if things pick up for you. I genuinely hope they do.

>It's everyone else that's the problem, not me!

and grow up while you're at it.

But their kids almost always do. Those trust fund kids live in what many would consider "debauchery".

>a guy born into a society that would ostracize you if you didn't believe in a specific god bleats about said god
imagine my shock

nature itself is limiting. resources are limited, production takes effort and time

Then it all comes back to whether god is real or not, so you're moving the goalposts.

Unless you feel like abiding by certain precepts by choice while also being aware of there not being inherent value or meaning in anything.

>all the slave morality ITT
I bet none of you pathetic cucks ever read nietzsche

i'm not the one who's unhappy or believes there is a problem. a lack of meaning to human existence suggests problems don't exist. and i don't think they fo. it's all in your limited brain

>atheists are oppressed

But I think you are underestimating the importance of a structured belief system. Sure, all things will eventually dissipate into the great nothingness that we perceive the universe to be. But for the time being you have the opportunity to do something with you. You have the opportunity to direct the energy in this universe through the systems we have discovered and manipulated. The lie down and die is to retarded. Just kill yourself now, we can use all the precious resources you are hoarding.

I fucking love this thread.

...

>I need an authority figure to be a decent version of myself
obvious bootlicker is obvious

What is truth?

are you retarded? do you know who you just quoted and when he lived and died?

They are, by themselves.

Yeah..

We have guns this time, if you wanted to compare this to the bronze age collapse, give the migrants automatic rifles and the border controls flintlocks, but remember that they're still pointing at each other.

European governments aren't even trying, Anglophone western countries in general are enforcing policies designed for collapse.

>It doesn't scare us, if anything you seem more threatened by us.
Not now, you've kept us down. You own the media. You own website moderators. You own the legislative system with censorship. You are the "careless" HR. So yes, after all this you are NOW no longer scared and we aren't either, you're correct. This is a distinctly threatened feeling. I'm glad we understand.

Then you're not a very good Nazi to be honest.

And hell is an anarchy, they want something just bad enough that people maybe possibly could might make something not shit on their own.

Define value before you start pretending to be deep, inherent isn't something I feel should apply to anything remotely relative.

6/10, came close.

no, i will continue to amass as many resources as i can so kikes like you will continue to get mad that the choice is no longer between being a kike slave and killing yourself

So atheists aren't oppressed then? And it's Jews behind nihilism and atheism?

The thing about Christianity is it's a weak-minded cult for Europeans, and hasn't gotten us anywhere in the 2000 years it's been around.

Nice video. Keep up the good fight. Look at this guy called "what I learned" he does the same type of philosophical videos, for ten minutes with entertaining graphics. I want to see your kind of content grow.

in the current year they obviously aren't unless you're in Saudi Arabia

>jews behind atheism
sure thing it's atheism driving US slavishness to AIPAC, not Christcucks who unironically believe the Chosen People meme

Me not eating to become skinny is a sacrifice, becoming skinny and hot and having better cardiovascular systems is the reward. Kys faggot

>Not now, you've kept us down. You own the media. You own website moderators. You own the legislative system with censorship. You are the "careless" HR. So yes, after all this you are NOW no longer scared and we aren't either, you're correct. This is a distinctly threatened feeling. I'm glad we understand.


You're just delusional or think nihilism is secular humanism which it isn't. The media, government, and human resources, all use right and wrong dichotomy.

>The doors of Hell are locked on the inside. I do not mean that the ghosts may not wish to come out of Hell, in the vague fashion wherein an envious man 'wishes' to be happy: but they certainly do not will even the first preliminary stages of that self-abandonment through which alone the soul can reach any good. They enjoy forever the horrible freedom they have demanded, and are therefore self-enslaved: just as the blessed, forever submitting to obedience, become through all eternity more and more free.
-C.S. Lewis

Finally someone gets it. Just because nothing you do matters, doesn't literally mean you're obligated to do nothing at all.

>that pic
Lel
You gotta give it to these faggots. They make decent memes.

You are the biggest fucking wiener I've ever witnessed in my entire life. Look at the achievements of humanity so far. Can you really say that all of that is worthless? Do you honestly know the impact that anything we do has on the universe that we don't fully comprehend?

Checked, it's whatever you can measure and observe, at least if you apply the scientific method, which is what makes your computer work for instance. You could try to send your shitpost through prayer or faith or whatever, and you should, because it would save rational people the time of reading that drivel.

What is it that your dad did to you?

What is anything? Thats the fucking point.

I've been seeing his name lately. Give me a basic gestalt on C. S. Lewis.

His solution means nothing in the face of nihilism. Nothing matters. Be the untermensch or the ubermench, it literally makes no difference if nihilism is true.

Positive existentialism is the ultimate philosophy.