The difference between nazi's and communists

why do nazi's and commies hate eachother when the only difference is that one is isolated and the onther is national?

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>Only difference

Communists are against classes. Nazis aren't, they accept the rich and poor but want everyone to follow the state and care for each other. Commies want everything to be run by the state.

I think he meant the differences in implementation, which is controlled production and a central Moscow government.

>being libertarian

why are you here

Sup Forums is literally 50% libertarian.

Nazism and the Soviets were the same. Totalitarian socialist dictatorships. The only differences is one hated the jews an the other hated the rich that weren't necessarily jews, but hated jews also.

Oh right. That's why the logo is an ancap flag, and ancap threads are always praising ancap and how good it is.

>t. retard
This is a politics board kid if you dont get politics you shouldnt be here.

Are they both supposed to be dudes? Communists are faggots? We already know this.

The economy was controlled by the government in Nazi Germany too.The only companies that exists were those allowed to exist under government contract.

>Supporting usury

You're 100% autistic and need to fuck off


also George Washington was a racialist who wanted the entire Western hemisphere to be Anglo-Saxon

> but hated jews also

The leaders of communism were pretty much all jews.

Libertarians aren't ancap.

I'm talking about the people on Sup Forums.

George Washington was also freemasonic scum.

Both are equally retarded and require a fantasy world to be properly run

>nazis
>fiscal conservatives

They're basically the same, fucking leftist collectivists faggots who want to enslave us all

>Libertarians aren't ancap.
Name one difference

It's people like you that make our side look retarded to the average white person.

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Catholics and Jews were denied the vote too.

The existence of a government.

All ancaps are libertarians, not all libertarians are ancaps.

Fuckwit.

>Nazi top right corner

looooool

Nazi's have been top left to top middle

communists are bottom left

That is not a unified belief among libertarians. Some believe in no cops, some believe in no military, some believe in no borders. Libertarians are only a few small steps removed from ancaps. They're basically the same.

>Supporting freemasonry
>Ever
If you don't stick to your ideology, kike and kike lovers (freemasons) will subvert.

>communists are bottom left

this picture is referring to kill everyone not Russian Stalinism and Nazism
both very similar
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you're a nigger dude

There is a profound difference between controlling and administering.

Communists embed the government within the company and vice versa, sets wages, quotas, picks and chooses how to build products.

Nazis generally just told owners of comanies who they could and couldnt sell to (usually when crossing borders) and outside of that allowed them to run themselves.

Nazis were also a major client to large companies buying military gear from them - much more like modern america than you would expect.


During the early reich, hitler actually brought in american economists (who were right wing) as consultants on how to ensure that the economy worked.

Libertarianism is an umbrella term in reference of any ideology in which the maximization of freedom is a primary value.

>There are ideological differences within libertarianism
>All libertarians are the same

This is why people hate collectivists.

>when the only difference is that one is isolated and the onther is national?

Wrong: youtube.com/watch?v=DB9oUqIcX-c

The Nazis were right wingers that loved extreme social conservatism. The Soviets were left wingers that were at least partially feminist.

>The leaders of communism were pretty much all jews.
False. That's just a Sup Forums meme. Religion was banned in the USSR and jews were persecuted there as well. There are several jews in my town that were USSR refugees to the US.

Race comes first.
Economy is just a mean to an end.
Nature and God must be respected.
We do not bow to jews.
We do not race mix.
To each man a position according to his abilities.
There is no such thing as equality and this very idea is an insult to intelligence and God.

Sieg heil

the leaders of the october revolution weren't Jews?

I think it's just bcuz hitler tried to take over russia

>nazi
>not top middle

Congrats laffypole you've demonstrated your room-temperature IQ once again. That's room temperature in the Celsius scale by the way. You've been at this for years now and have accomplished absolutely zilch as far as your subversion goes. Perhaps if you invested as much time in gaining capital as you invested googling interracial porn and making bad MS paint edits of right wing memes you might be able to do away with the stereotype of far-leftists being unwashed drug addicts squatting communally in abandoned apartments.

>being this new

he's not talking about the Jewish religion ffs

What a giant cuck. Remind us when the Nazis come to Europe again so we can kill them, too.

No, Sup Forums is just retarded. If someone's 5th cousin twice removed's mother was jewish, Sup Forums will claim they are jewish. Anyone Sup Forums doesn't like it automatically jewish.

This. Every Libertarian is a special snowflake.

Please go to the doctors to test for incurable autism

Private property existed in Nazi Germany, not Russia

Economy was less centralized in Germany

Social policies are obviously different

Democrats and Republicans are 10x closer together than Communists and Nazis

whats up with the shit tier baits tonight ?

>insert obligatory get message here.

>Being this new

Jews are jews, no matter if they're atheist or not

That is true, but what I said is still right. The Nazis still controlled which businesses were allowed to exist.
nazism and communism are very close to each other, and both are very far from modern political parties.

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And bring niggers, trannies, porn,trashfood, and usury.
Burger, stay home for once, mankind will thank you.
You are cancer.
Also... We are already in Europe moron.
See the flag ?

The mother is jewish.
Thats all it is. Also look up the jewish SS squadron.

>ITT: fucking retards
Nazism (and fascism in general) is obsessed with violence. It exults in violence. Violence and struggle is not bad to a fascist - it is purifying. A perfect world, to a fascist, is a violent world.

This is what distinguishes fascism from simple totalitarianism.

Communism rejects violence.

>false

>Communism rejects violence.
Really? The fucking cold war never happened?

You sound like you need some freedom.

National socialism literally has no values to share with communism lol

Name one thing the February revolution leaders were better than bolsheviks.

Nope

Philosophically, you fucking retard.

>ignoring reality

I think you're both raging faggots. God alone can keep a nation from degeneracy, whether that nation is a Christian Republic (as America once was and still is to an extent), or a fascist dictatorship.

We see this with the refugee crisis, the most religious nations are the ones avoiding refugees and mass immigration, while the most atheistic embrace it. We may see a change in Africa and China too, as they become more Christian over time.

Well of course Natsocs modelled their economy under Soviet example.

1) in 30s, Commie model was cutting edge. None of the flaws have emerged yet.

2) Natsocs saw SU as a direct threat and decided that best way to crush them was to immitate them.

It's very autistic of you, to assume that there only exists economy in politics.

Big mistake newfag, Judaism and Jewishness are not the same. Jews are a racial group. Sephardi and Ashkenazi Jews are also very close racially, the only black sheep are Mizrahi Jews and Ethiopians, who are Jewish only in their religion but not their race. Judaism is just the tribal religion of the Jews.

>ignoring philosophy

And collectivists are not people.

>gulags are non-violent

The USSR had a strong leader in Stalin but even he couldn't save himself from his ideology. He had the power to do good but communism drove his country to countless civil conflicts and poverty resulting in a modern UBER nationalistic russia

Communism is bad and your meme is shit

>Communism rejects violence
If someone builds a watermill to mill grain, and offers a person payment to mill grain for them, you unironically believe the person being paid to mill the grain is justified in stealing the watermill, and using violence should the person who actual owned it try to exclude the person they'd paid to use it from its use.

Communism is philosophically incoherent and absurd.

You can't seize the means of production without violence.

Kek.
What a retard.
Fascists glorify strengh and the peace and prosperity it ensures. It respect the triumph of the stronger and therefore, nature's law.

Commies are weak men harassing anybody more successful, and using violence at every step, including after victory.

The first are predators, the seconds are sadists.
The first are natural, the second mentally ill.

>implying modern Westerners are smart enough to make their own decisions.

Technically you could if everyone is as retardedly cucked as the people seizing.

They're not even fit to be classified as animals.

Communism in no way rejects violence, it glorifies it, it simply "others" certain groups to make violence against them easier. If you own a business, are middle to upper class, are lower class but defend capitalism, are a police officer or soldier, or own property, then you have become an enemy of the "people" (people meaning everyone who is a fanatical communist) and they show no empathy or mercy to you.

>1950
convenient

National Socialists believe in identifying and advancing the interests of a discrete group of people.

Communists do not like National Socialists because the hierarchy system (incorrectly called "class" by Marxists when they actually view it as a caste system) remains intact.

Advancement through merit is still possible in a National Socialist society. Communists view meritorious advancement as an artificial hierarchy rather than a natural ordering of the species. The fact that you can leverage your natural or earned advantages to propel yourself to have a much higher quality of life relative to other people means that the system will never be accepted by Communists because it would be said to promote class.

In short, the biggest philosophical difference is that National Socialists do not oppose the hierarchy of class, making it intrinsically opposed to radical leftist thought in general and Communism in particular.

Just as a disclaimer, don't waste your time studying Communism. Communism is a utopian philosophy based on a poor understanding of history, economics, and psychology that could not possibly be implemented as intended by humans.

Why is natsoc that far right? It's still SOCIALISM

>gulags aren't necessary

He did do well. USSR industrialized quickly and a strong military focus was needed.

No. We need less cancerous freedom.
We need duty, honor, law.

Keep your feminists, gender fluid otherkin, morbidly obese, etc.

List of mass graves[edit]
Following the demise of the USSR in 1991, many of the killing and burial sites were uncovered,[2][3][4] one as recently as 2010.[5]

Bykivnia Graves – containing an estimated 30,000[6]–225,000 corpses[7][8]
Kurapaty – At least 50,000 with considerably higher estimates in the Soviet press[9]
Butovo – over 20,000 confirmed killed[10]
Communarka – about 10,000 killed [11]
Sandarmokh – over 9,000 bodies discovered[12]
Kolpashevo – over 1,000 bodies discovered in 1979, and then disposed of on instruction of the local party chief.[13]
In the areas near Kiev alone, there are mass graves in Uman, Bila Tserkva, Cherkasy and Zhytomyr.[14]
Katyn massacre
Vinnytsia massacre – 9,432 corpses exhumed[15]
In July 2010, a mass grave was discovered at St. Petersburg, which contained the corpses of 80 military officers executed during the Bolshevik "Red Terror" of 1918–21.[16]
Dem'ianiv Laz
Augustów roundup

Pinochet is top right, Hitler is top center, Stalin is top left

What's interesting about most modern commies is that they'd actually be convertible to National Socialism once you reveal their true colors.

For example, ask them about the Kulaks. Kulaks were essentially their Jews. Just about every modern-day communist says "Kulaks deserved it" which is an ongoing phrase, and they'll go on a rant about how awful the Kulaks were. Bring up the Jews, and you'll realize that they'd essentially understand the Jewish problem from being led into an argumentative trap.

>i know nothing about communist theory but i'm gonna mouth off anyway
Go read Isaiah Berlin's "Two Concept of Liberty."

It's a good overview of communism but I specifically chose it because it's actually written by a libertarian so you won't feel too threatened when you read it.

Philosophically, you retard.

The seizure of the means of production and the following dictatorship belong to a pre-communist, and imperfect, state of society.

>Fascists glorify strengh and the peace and prosperity it ensures. It respect the triumph of the stronger and therefore, nature's law.
i.e. fascism exults in violence and struggle, just like I said.

The rest of your post is just bitter tears.

Wrong.

>Keep your feminists, gender fluid otherkin, morbidly obese, etc.
Where are we supposed to get all of our comedy from?

You didn't think about that one, did you?

Even ants, the epitome of the communist model in practice, require the threat of force to keep their workers from accruing capital that "rightfully" belongs to their queen. Or from reproducing "illegally" when the queen has all reproductive rights.

>Victims of communism
Reminder

>when you're so out of your depth all you can do is copy-paste irrelevant tracts from wikipedia

>Wrong.
What do you mean "wrong", have you ever talked to a communist or read communist literature?

>That's just a Sup Forums meme.

Demonstrably not true, start with the Spartacus and Spartacist League and the Stalin-backed leftists of the Spanish Civil War and work your way out. In fact, Orthodox Christianity was one of the major galvanizing forces used to rally rural Russians to oppose the Germans.

National socialism is more economically center. I'd consider totalitarian right would make you a monarchist or a theocrat.

So what you're saying is communism is still bad?

All communism entails an absurd notion of property and advocates violence or else it's not communism. Voluntarism is not communism.

Nazism is literally slight to the left of center and very authoritarian. I hate that people think that the National Socialist Germans Workers Party (NSDAP) was "far right".

>The seizure of the means of production and the following dictatorship belong to a pre-communist, and imperfect, state of society.

Communism require massive violent purges to ensure its genesis, this is intrinsic to the ideology and can not be separated. Then there needs to be the continual threat of force to prevent the individual from engaging in capitalistic exchanges that elevate their economic class.

>communism rejects violence claims retard
>i guess totally ignorant of communist purges
>its irrelevant some how

I think SSRIs, weed, and computers have rotted away your peasant brain

The heirarchy class can at least be broken in a Nationalist Society. If anything, class today is either from two things. Survival of the fittest or capitalist wealth. Class in National Socialism isn't about corrupt wealth through ursury, crony-capitalism, corporatism, etc. but through being naturally better than your neighbor. If you just suck at life, that's your problem, and is also natural selection doing its thing. Equality is a false god.

The main differences lie in who the state oppressed, states are naturally oppressive in a socialist or Communist state the capitalist class is oppressed, while in a nazi one those who are not approved members of the aryan nation are oppressed.