How redpilled is this pic Sup Forums

How redpilled is this pic Sup Forums

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Not redpilled at all

well no there should be loads of shippments to the reds from america involed and lots of bombing by americans and brits added other then that meh close enough

This pic kind of represents why I don't really respect Hitler very much. Oh the war with the UK isn't really working out in a clean and easy victory. Sigh...I'm bored. Attack RUSSIA!
Idiot.

400k americans dead (over 2 theatres)

27million soviets dead

pic is pretty accurate senpai

This, lend lease is neo-commie kryptonite.

Oh Im already at war with the commies and jew island monkeys. Whats that? japan attacked America? FUCK YOU TOO AMERICA!

He had no choice, Stalin was going to attack anyhow, they choose to surprise them instead.

And the Americans practically ended WWI despite only being in the war for a short amount of time. Most casualties =/= most contributed, what shitty grounds to base an argument on.

Make that trex a retarded King Kong flinging shit and you're getting close

>Stalin was going to attack anyhow
and get his ass kicked like a year ago in Finland. Except this time Germany would have had the necessary preparation to go all the way to Siberia in one straight shot instead of losing momentum halfway in.
And not having to deal with any bombings and major flanking from the Americans and Brits. And have access to African Oil.

It would have been a curbstomp.

Hitler was retarded and thought a war with Russia would work exactly like a war with France.

>practically ended

yeah, they destroyed the pacific theatre, but the role of defeating the wehrmacht went to the USSR, as over 3/4 of german soldiers and SS went to the eastern front. Supplying weapons is all well and good but at that time you just couldn't hold back the soviet zerg rush

Just because the Soviets accepted some aid doesn't mean that they did nothing else. They fought long and hard in the bloodiest theatre of the bloodiest war ever. In some areas one out of every three people died.

hitler should have pushed straight for moscow and he would have gone there, not gone for a city he could have simply marched around and taken later.

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Where is China?
Japan fought with America and China. The Soviet Union joined the battle at the last.

weapons mean nothing without the manpower to USE them.

Who fed those 27 million soviets?

America. The only reason why Russia did what they did is because our engines, ammunition and food kept their army going.

I'm not denying that the USSR played a big role, but that the US would've accomplished that and much more would they have been fighting for 5+ years.

Add a few communist raptors eating each other and it'd be pretty good.

see Also, "some aid" is intellectually dishonest as fuck, you red faggot.

first pic is more accurate

USA supplied russia dont forget
all captialist producton

The unoccupied parts of the USSR still had functioning industry IIRC. The farms weren't so luck because a lot of those were in Ukraine.

>us funds the british, russian, exiled french & polish war efforts
>us supplies all 4 of them

did the us really do /itspart/ tho??

Make literally 60% of the Russian dinosaurs dead and bleeding and its redpilled.

I agree, the USSR would most likely have sunk without american aid and contribution at that time, as there was no country in the world that could at that time stand up alone to the brunt of the wehrmacht.

The US, in Russia's position probably would have ended up just the same as them. they had immense production which practically killed everyone else, producing huge numbers of literally everything. In the case of the general european front though, i'm gonna have to go with the historical consensus that whoever the USSR allied with would have won the war. They were the deciding factor.

I'm not even communist. How is "some" dishonest? The Soviets often had Russian-made missiles loaded on American-made trucks.

>the USSR still had functioning industry
>IIRC
The Soviets managed to produce more tanks, airplanes and artillery devices than the entire Continental Europe by 1942.

I look at the modern state of Russia and am left to wonder.

So letting the soviets prepare more was a good idea? Letting them mobilize more?

"some"

>In total, the U.S. deliveries through Lend-Lease [to the USSR] amounted to $11 billion ($150b today) in materials: over 400,000 jeeps and trucks; 12,000 armored vehicles (including 7,000 tanks, about 1,386[39] of which were M3 Lees and 4,102 M4 Shermans);[40] 11,400 aircraft (4,719 of which were Bell P-39 Airacobras)[41] and 1.75 million tons of food.

This.

sort of...

the soviet dino swarm was heavily reliant on us dino war supplies

without us dino creating a second front soviet dino swarm would have failed.

Honestly fuck WW2 vets. Fucking faggot assholes shoulda let Hitler finish the job. But no, muh oppresshun of kikes. Fuck I hate old people.

Seriously fucking old ass "greatest generation" my ass. Fucking Jew cock sucking retards.

How redpilled is this pic Sup Forums? Btw chekk em

Not very seeing how it was American supplies that allowed the Soviets to launch an offensive. Also the major problem with Russia that Germany had was that they made the same mistake Napoleon made: they invaded in winter. So really, that pic is appealing to commie bullshit.

Now chekk em

uk and russia lose ww2

usa saved both

this is wrong.

The reason the red army was decimated in the opening salvos and forced on the retreat was that stalin had set it up for a pre-preemptive strike against germany/europe. Germany attacked first and the Russians were caught off guard, dictating the tempo of the entire fight.

Stalin was an incompetent buffoon who knew the war was coming and mainly executed political rivals in preparation.

>invading in winter meme

hitler was at the gates of moscow, but he stalled out and went for stalingrad and the oilfields, and it turned into a war of attrition. If he had kept with the blitzkrieg it would have ended differently.

A funkin' leaf

This is blatantly untrue and demonstrates a horrible understanding of history at best and blatant intellectual dishonesty at worst.

are you from alternate reality?

Being awful at something=contributing the most

I guess Americans should've sent human waves in utterly hopeless attacks to bump their casualty total up lol.

usa shoulda nuked uk and france and let germany nuke russia

genuine kek

>judging success by your dead

Not really. The real redpill is that the US saved the Soviet Union by giving Stalin the transportation equipment needed to move the bulk of the Soviet industrial plant beyond the Ural mountains and away from Hitler's invading force.

Fuck off leaf, you don't deserve to stand next to us.

true

stalin got lucky
he was competing against an even bigger military idiot in hitler

both dictators weren't much in terms of strategy

>judging success by your dead

No, i judged contribution by the dead. The labour of 27 million hands is a pretty large contribution, regardless of "skill" in fighting or "how well they got the job done"

step it up fagits

27 million drunk Bydlos with no industry to support them.
Anybody can subjugate unarmed peasants, what do you think happened to the survivors.

hitler did what his generals told him to do a majority of the time, it was only later in the war when things weren't going as well he began to take the reigns - yes he made some mistakes, but he was a decent commander for a corporal with no military command experience

but what would have happened if 27 million ivans weren't there to provide a buffer? where would the rest of the german and italian armies gone?

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>>Muh 27 gorrillian

You can't include the millions kled by Stalin dummy

Switching from Moscow to the Soviet Union's food and oil resources was the correct decision to make.
There is no guarantee the war would have ended had Moscow fallen, and the Soviets were expecting a renewed attack in the region. Switching to the south threw the Soviets off balance once more. Hitler's original plan of hitting the north and south, capturing the Soviet Union's resources and then swinging towards Moscow in a pincer was the correct idea. Had Hitler not allowed his generals to convince him to do both that and a Moscow push, resulting in an attack that had no true goal and lost steam quicker than it should have, he would have won the war of attrition by depriving the Soviets of their vital resources from the beginning.

>June 22nd, 1941
>winter
Stop.

Considering the ass kicking it received, he wasn't entirely wrong. The biggest obstacle was the country's massive size and being underdeveloped (which is a logistical nightmare)

not even close.

Everyone received materials from someone else in WW2. Germany had 42% of its high quality iron ore imported from Sweden, without which it would have rearmed much less efficiently, 8,820,000 tons of oil from Romania, which ran its tanks, trucks, and trains, and 60% of its chrome from Turkey in 1939, also critical in arms manufacturing.

>trains
shit meant planes

Not. The soviets were losing until uncle sam gave some gibbmes.

Not as accurate as this video

youtube.com/watch?v=e5HGcbr1-Rk

Also USSR had less troops than the Wehrmacht so have 1 raptor vs 2 t-rex or something

Quads of truth

Its semi accurate.

The Russians definitely played a larger role in defeating the Germans than anyone else did. However with out American lend lease programs to help their military industrial complex get going the Soviets could have been overwhelmed by the initial German invasion. Additionally the Soviet advance on Berlin was greatly helped by the Germans being forced to fight a war on two fronts following the Normandy landing.

In a straight up fight between the Nazis and the Soviets, I'm not entirely sure who would have come out on top in the end. At the very least the war would have lasted considerably longer than it did.

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>Considering the ass kicking it received, he wasn't entirely wrong. The biggest obstacle was the country's massive size and being underdeveloped (which is a logistical nightmare)


Also, he wasn't "retarded" to think the war would play out similarly to previous victories - American and British intelligence of the time of the invasion were predicting the soviet union to fall within weeks - the early onset of winter among many logistical problems were to blame

It's imlpying implications that nobody should imply

>Also USSR had less troops than the Wehrmacht

Dude what? Strength of numbers was the Soviet Unions greatest advantage during the war.

Not