Is not tipping the ultimate red pill?

Is not tipping the ultimate red pill?

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Nope... this is the ultimate red pill

Plenty of countries don't use a tipping system. The USA does it because we're cucked.

More like the pink pill.

Niggers and Jews don't tip. That should tell you everything.

The only people who don't tip are leftists and niggers. Sorry OP, red pills can afford to tip a server.

Don't like tips? Have mom make you a hot pocket kiddo

Not going to restaurants and cooking your damn food is the ultimate redpill

This is why servers generally hate christians. They're so self righteous and clearly don't understand the issue at hand. When you tithe, you aren't giving god or jesus your money, you're giving it to the church you go to. Now, keep in mind the church doesn't pay taxes, but your server does (of course tips are all the server makes as that $2.13/hour goes towards taxes). On top of that, the church asks for 10% of all the money you make in a year, while your server asks for 20% of the value of the meal you ate. One is obviously much smaller.

Paying a niggers salary on top of my meal.

I pay the menu price.

Yeah, and you get really shitty service in all of them except some east asian countries where the culture is drastically different. Tips are incentives, like having a salesman make commission on what he sells.

Jews do tip among themselves to reinforce custom of moving their obligations (paying a wage) to customers. So nice try Schlomo.

I tip about 10% because in Europe people are grateful for any extra you give them, they don't expect free shit like little entitled American shits who believe that emulating a conveyor belt is worthy of worship.

i will only tip if the service is amazing but otherwise i will not, its not my job to pay these people

FUCK YOUR SLIDE THREAD

SAGE

>Absolutely This
Tipping is literally encouraged National Socialism
>We pay these people nothing, if you like them help them out.

Don't tip, just don't expect to ever eat at that establishment again or with any sort of frequency. Sucks, but I've worked in hospitality and you're dealing with people who will fuck with you if they can because they are in a position to. Granted, if the service is garbage by all mean.

>Is X the ultimate redpill
>Troglodytes sling their shit around discussing such a pathetic topic
>Sup Forums dies a little more

In Europe your server also doesn't make $2.13 an hour, that's why, you retard.

Oh ha ha ha! I get this reference! I GET THIS REFERENCE!

It's called being a stingy cunt, OP.

But when judging this service, don't be a NIGGER
If your food is late, is the restaurant completely fucking packed like a migrant boat?
If your food is wrong is it because that group of 6 gorrillion gorillas is screaming and chimping out, and she/he's losing her fucking mind?
If you don't get refills quickly see above

Nobody tips here. If you do it's like giving a beggar money. It's almost like a charity case. People don't like it here

Good for you now calm down

Yeah, because 2.5 bucks is like average pay for harder jobs here in my country you dumbfuck, I know your waiters are paid like shit, they also do shit job that literally anyone can do and if they don't get enough tips to make a minimum wage their employer MUST pay, and minimum wage in america is plenty money to survive unless you're nigger who spend it all on weed day one. Waiters remain waiters because they get much more than minimum wage through tips and you fucking know it. So stop being a cuck or waiter.

This. Don't be actively looking for an out unless one actually exists.

Tipping is pointless. People should do a good job without having to be bribed into doing it.

do the people bring your food get paid even remotely close to an entry level cook? if so, you're not obliged to tip
If they make extremely below the amount needed to survive, even if it's not alot, fucking tip.
Your server may wish you tipped more but at least you gave them SOMETHING

>tfw never tip anywhere and always get good service just because I come back often, bring friends with me and am nice to the staff

Man feels fucking good not having to tip, and if they ask me for tips I tell them I'm a student (I'm not, I have a job) and that I don't have much money to spare.

Tipping someone who can be replaced easily by pic related

spotted the jew-nigger
always tip your race, regardless

Expecting a tip violates the NAP

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So it will be then, until then don't act like a deadbeat unless you were actively treated like shit.

What i dont like is why it has to be a percentage

If i order a 20 dollar steak i have to tip 4 dollars but if i order a 50 dollar steak now i gotta tip 10 dollars? Its not like the server had to do extra work, either way theyre just bringing me a plate

You also need to figure out why it's wrong. If there's a medium well pick in your steak, but you ordered medium rare, then it's the server's fault, but if the pick is right, the the kitchen fucked up and the server has nothing to do with that. Additionally, in every restaurant I've worked at, the server has no control over the food coming out late. Everybody runs everyone else's food, so if your server is dicking around, the food will still get to you when it's up.
You realize that what servers make is less than 1/3 of minimum wage, right? That's why tipping is a thing. That's why you're supposed to tip 20%. I realize currency differs by country, so take your country's minimum wage, divide it by three, then imagine making that.

> and if they don't get enough tips to make a minimum wage their employer MUST pay
Or they fire you for poor performance

> minimum wage in america is plenty money to survive unless you're nigger who spend it all on weed day one.
You must be having difficulty with the currency thing again. No, minimum wage is not really enough to survive without getting another job. Less than 1/3 of it definitely isn't enough to survive.

> Waiters remain waiters because they get much more than minimum wage through tips and you fucking know it.
Never claimed otherwise, I'm just trying to explain to you why tipping is a thing and you're just not understanding it. Waiters remain waiters because it beats fast food and there aren't a lot of other opportunities for people without a college degree/high school diploma (seriously, with a college degree I'm more educated than any other server and half my managers - only one manager is more educated as he has an MBA). Unless you want to dump money into school to better yourself, you don't have much of an option. I don't even need the money because my family is rich, but I see tipping as a matter of principle. I'll rub my dick on your food if I recognize you as someone who doesn't tip.

tipping is for fucking suckers
>HURR DURR LET ME PAY EXTRA ON TOP OF MY ALREADY OVERPRICED GARBAGE

Then don't go out to eat if you can't afford to pay for the service too. Maybe McDonald's is more in your price range.

typical american world view, muh not tipping is le le red pill.

Literally no other country in the civilized world uses tips, lol.

ultimate red pill for murican: start using metric system, stop clapping when the plane lands succesfully and stop chanting "usa! usa!" while you go eat in mcburgerking

seconded. i work service industry. the only people who would go on a tirade about how tipping is unfair taxation or some garbage, have never had a shitty job in their life.

you don't like how tipping works in america? fucking great, then work towards changing it on a national level. you could be the spark of a movement. the oyster is your world.

until then, fucking tip. or stay home and have mom make you hot pockets, as this man said

literally write "taxation is theft!" on the tip line, and enjoy having your shit shared on social media and laughed at.

>its not my job to pay these people

right, they should give you all their food and service for free. how silly of us to think otherwise

>Agreed
see

Don't be a Nigger

Fair point, but be aware their income taxes are based on an assumed 8% of their sales, so if you tip the same but order the more expensive steak, just don't let that drop below the 8% mark.

go to community college or something you nigger

>always get good service just because I come back often, bring friends with me and am nice to the staff


i guaranfucking tee those places hate you with a passion. i work service industry. you think they're nice to you because you come in a lot? do those people literally own the restaurant? no? then they don't give 2 flying fucks if you come in there or not. they have a shitty job, they're forced to be nice to you, and you make it worse by not tipping them because you're a broke fucknut who shouldn't be going out to eat.

redpill yourself in how to save money by cooking food at home, you nigger tier idiot

>Or they fire you for poor performance
That's your own damn fault for reinforcing tips in the first place, if every waiter flipped a bird at their jewish employers instead of customers for not paying them then they would fucking pay them otherwise they would have no employees.
>No, minimum wage is not really enough to survive without getting another job.
Yes it is, your minimum wage is almost twice of average wage in my country and you have similiar prices, usually even cheaper.
>I'll rub my dick on your food if I recognize you as someone who doesn't tip.
And that's why I don't tip, such entitlement is insane and warrant surveliance in every restaurant with million fine if you get caught doing that shit. This mindset is exactly the reason you don't deserve even that 1/3 of minimum wage you disgustging animal. I hope a nurse injects you with cyanide and get away with it when you're in hospital because you didn't tip her.

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Yeah, well that reminds me. I focus mainly on parties, so I try to churn and burn 2-3 parties of 6-12 (that's the sweet spot) at the same time or possibly two parties of 12-15, but occasionally I'll take larger parties like 20-25. The worst is when you get a pack of 25 nigs who are hooping and hollaring and downright disrespectful. Fortunately, I don't get angry easily and am extremely well liked by my managers, so I can just spite these nigs (they aren't going to tip anyway, so I'll just have cash tickets deleted) and watch them get upset.
It's like that because they pay out a percentage of their sales in tip outs to bussers, bartenders, hosts, etc. In some places you can pay close to 5% of your sales when everything is said and done, so if you're one of those retards that just drops a $5 on the table no matter what the tab is, then they are losing money if the tab is over $100.

>This
If they even remotely show a different attitude towards you for not tipping it puts their job in jeopardy.
I can almost guarantee they have a code word just for you and do unbelievable things to your food

What constitutes "really shitty service"?
When I go out to eat my servers are polite, responsive and I can know with almost certainty that they aren't going to spit in my food just because I didn't tip good last time.

So please, explain to us Mr Worldy Man, what is so bad about the service in other places that makes the service in America seem so fucking amazing?

I could tip if I wanted to, but I don't want to ;)

But why? Where does it say that I need to tip? It's not my fucking job to tip people. I don't get tipped for doing my own job.

>such entitlement is a shame
you know these people dont make enough and yet you dont give a shit. Giving you the finger in response is the absolute fucking correct reply.

just LOL at tipping someone for a job anyone with a working skeletal system can do.

i love Norway cause you NEVER pay anything else than what you are supposed to

>some uneducated retard that has no skills beyond bringing plates to his superiors trying to convince us to pay his rent for him and telling us the service is shittier in other places

Go learn a trade you fucking imbecile.

I tip if the service is good. I don't expect much, just take my order, bring me my food and fill my cup if it low.

Its getting harder and harder these days to find a restaurant that doesn't employ lazy degenerates.

And every fucking pace I go to has waitresses. Women are garbage at the one job they can get easily. Any time I've ever had waiter the experience was perfect.

Anyone against tipping is against National Socialism and i dont really care to argue with you.

You're gonna have to explain this one to me.

tipping belongs on chaturbate and nowhere else.

>you know these people dont make enough and yet you dont give a shit
And how is this my fault and why should I pay for it? How much money did you send to refugees? How much money are you donating to help your homeless? How much you tip cashiers in Walmart? None? Then why the fuck do you want me to subsidize you just because you feel like 'you don't make enough'? Giving a finger to customer is same as biting hand that feeds you because I'm the sole reason you have at least some money(wage), but of course sissy like you wouldn't make it in front of customers because you would be fired on the spot or get your jaw broken. Well keep being a spiteful loser doing shit behind doors, I'll keep going to restaurants where they actually value their customers.

> if every waiter flipped a bird at their jewish employers instead of customers for not paying them then they would fucking pay them otherwise they would have no employees.
The employees are going to cave a lot quicker because they need to eat and don't have the cash stacks to support themselves like the business owners. I don't see any server unions, do you?

> Yes it is, your minimum wage is almost twice of average wage in my country and you have similiar prices, usually even cheaper.
False, our cost of living and consumer goods prices are considerably more than yours. This is especialy true if you live in a city in the US.

> such entitlement is insane
It's not entitlement, if anything you're the entitled one as you think you can just not pay for the service.

> warrant surveliance in every restaurant with million fine if you get caught doing that shit.

Who's going to catch someone doing that? It's more common than you think. Do you really think the manager would want it getting out that this is happening? 90% of the time it's covered up and the employee isn't reprimanded. I can guarantee you have eaten dick cheese.

> This mindset is exactly the reason you don't deserve even that 1/3 of minimum wage you disgustging animal.
Sticks and stones. Just know that my family has more money than you will see in a lifetime and I have a bright future with whichever career field I choose.

> I hope a nurse injects you with cyanide and get away with it when you're in hospital because you didn't tip her.
Jesus, I thought I explained this to you already, you can't be this dumb. The nurse makes over minimum wage and there is no social expectation to tip. Additionally, even if there was, the nurse has what is referred to as a duty to serve.

How about you learn a trade, you waste of space/ Minimum wage jobs are for teenagers and the disabled.

calm it boyo

I work as a cook/chef
We honestly don't like you. You probably order more complicated shit as well "no onions, this sauce instead of X" then act coy as if we're supposed to know.
Obviously we won't fuck with anyone's food because that's a subhuman american thing to do, but not tipping while being a frequent customer is pretty weird.

Give me one reason why someone that is older than 18 years old should be in a job that relies on tips in the first place? Unless you're a super cute girl, you need to get the fuck out of that "job"

What drugs are you on?

I don't tip because my country isn't retarded and we pay our workers.

"Hey kid, come 'ere! I want you to work at my fine establishment. No, I won't be paying you minimum wage. I'll be paying you well below that. Hold on! I know no one would come to my restaurant if I didn't have waiters so... they'll be paying you! HAHAHAH!"

You literally just made my point for me. You tipped them. You provided that incentive and they did a good job. That's my entire point. They rely less on tips, so a lower tip is less of a big deal, that's about the perfect system. You don't want to remove tipping altogether and that's my point.
You also make more than minimum wage at your job, servers don't. They make $2.13/hour because it is expected that you will tip (because that's the custom). The tip is you paying for the service. I'm also going to go off on a limb and say that your job probably isn't customer service, now is it? Why would you get tipped?

2nd this, tips are for retarded americans.
"hurr my country is great"

We don't tip here but I still get phenomenal service, that is my point.

Now we are seeing why you have to be in such a low-skilled job; you're retarded

Id seriously love to change tipping and get rid of it completely. I'd rather see prices go up 20% and workers paid more. I also work in the service industry and would much rather have a solid wage and not be at the whim of how a customer is feeling. I also think the tipping system stays because its a way for both employer and customer to underpay workers.

>Hurr durr, how do we get rid of tips when we already have them

Nah, it's more of a kikepill

That's why the menu has prices on it.

If I have to tip because someone brings me my food. I'd rather not tip and have to get the food myself from the counter.

I have a college degree, I'm actually joining the military, but I need to do something to occupy my time so I don't go crazy. To answer your question, the reason why most servers don't do this is because it costs money and they don't really have the extra money to throw around like that. I didn't know this until recently, but from talking to coworkers, getting the equivalent of student loans for trade school requires pretty good credit (or pretty good relative to these people's income level).
Actually none. I'm joining the military, so drugs are kind of a no no. Also, not an argument.

I don't ask for strange orders.

By "good service" you mean the bitch gets you your food? Do you also tip bus drivers?

I've lived in NZ for many years and worked in the service industry here, service isn't shit if it is then people tell the manager and you probably get fired.
Assuming it does happen, the average person isn't an arsehole in white areas.
I can't vouch for other areas, but from experience, I can say that paying your workers doesn't always make them cunts.

> I get phenomenal service
Maybe if you haven't compared the two you would think that. I have, and I noticed a trend that servers in much of Europe are much more like fast food workers, and not willing to go above and beyond like you see in the US.

Also, I literally just work because I'm bored. Money is a non-issue in my life and I have plenty of job prospects because I have a college degree in a 'hard' field.

>The employees are going to cave a lot quicker because they need to eat and don't have the cash stacks to support themselves like the business owners. I don't see any server unions, do you?
Then get a better job, instead of trying to mug me.
>False, our cost of living and consumer goods prices are considerably more than yours. This is especialy true if you live in a city in the US.
lol no, the only thing more expensive is your 'helthcare' because it bankrupts you if you break your arm and (((education))), everything else, food, house, electronics, games, etc. is cheaper in US
>It's not entitlement, if anything you're the entitled one as you think you can just not pay for the service.
I pay for the service by paying for food that's 3x more expensive than it would if I made it myself. It's your fault you can't divide the money properly between you, cook and employer.
>Who's going to catch someone doing that? It's more common than you think. Do you really think the manager would want it getting out that this is happening? 90% of the time it's covered up and the employee isn't reprimanded. I can guarantee you have eaten dick cheese.
It's common in your shithole, but there must be some people in my country doing the same thing but that's one of the many reasons why I go to running sushi anyway, can eat as much as I want and food is made right in front of me so they can't fuck it up even if they wanted to, same conditions should be in every restaurant.
>Sticks and stones.
Yeah, there are people who got it better than me and also those who got it worse than me, same applies to you, why should I give a fuck that you've been born with silver spoon stuffed in your face? It's actually kinda pathethic that with such 'succesfull' background you made it just to waiter who still mooch his family.
>there is no social expectation to tip
There is no social expecation to tip waiters anywhere on the planet but America. Seems you like socialism a bit too much.

I was a pantry cook for a year a while back, just made me giggle when a server got stiffed out of a tip. Greedy bastards walked home with $300 cash most nights.

>SERVERS HAVE TO PAY TAXES WAAAH
So does everyone else

I know a college girl who got more in tips being a shitty waitress than my father does with his phd, and always complained when someone only gave her a 10% tip

Service is shitty when you compare the two. I've never been to NZ, but I imagine it probably follows the trend I've seen in many European countries. You do just enough not to get fired, you don't actually go above and beyond because there is no incentive like there is in the US (tips).

I wish that was real, too funny

what is 'go above and beyond'?
Your job is to bring item from point A to point B on time, nobody wants anything more from you than your job. If you try to 'ignore' my table I just call you to my table myself like a little good doggy you are.

>implying the server is usually a citizen

Perhaps the Euros have a lower standard, above and beyond is irrelevant, the server doesn't need to be the greatest server in the universe, they need to take the order, return it to the kitchen, then bring it to the table.
In NZ the standard is to above, be polite and don't fuck up. I haven't seen an arsehole keep their job, we've got lot's of people to replace them if they can't manage it.
If you do a good job you can negotiate for a higher wage with your employer, the person who should be paying you, good service brings in more people, so good servers can demand a higher wage.

You are not stuck at minimum forever regardless of effort.