Are East Germans generally smarter than West Germans?

Are East Germans generally smarter than West Germans?

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nope, why you think that?

t. East german

>day of the rake when?

Why else would the capital be there?

Dunno, just asking. But I have some friends from the ex-GDR and they seem a lot smarter than most Germans from FRG I've met.

Communism breeds smarter men. This is well proven.

there are smart and dumb people everywhere, I wouldn't say any side is better than the other.

east germany was ethnonationalist while the west commits genocide against itself

>vote in lefties
>be dirt poor
>live on gibs from wealthy regions
>complain about refugees
>still vote lefties
Truly the vanguard of German intellectualism.

to me this looks like some sort of voter fraud, I have never met anyone who would vote for the Linke and everyone always complains about them.

Oh, translation of the file name: left state governments. Every red area represents a government that includes "Die Linke", the German commie party.

light red: they are in parliament
red: they are in a government coalition
dark red (besed le Nazi Thuringia): they are the strongest party

Prussia got genocided by slavs

Don't defend yourself, I'm just banting, but it is a reality. Ever been in a university city? I live in Bavaria but wonder every day how the CSU can have a majority with all the huge lefties around me. I mean, literal Die Linke lefties, yet they aren't even in fucking parliament. It's insane. The difference probably is that Bavaria is a lot more rural than the east and cities tend to be lefty swamps.

Commies would take middle class families of wherever they controlled, and executed them.

The nkvd would literally slaughter the brightest gentiles in all of eastern europe.

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No, probably the opposite by average IQ.

Because Austria didn't want to be part of the German empire?

East Germans vote more extreme, but not more left wing.

That's middle germany.

no, there is just a lot more negros and muzzgroids in the West, so the West probably has a rather pronounced inferior score on schools, tests, etc

Same as in the US. White US kids do the same as West European and Japanese kids on tests. But the American school system is considered shit because it's full of coons and beaners bringing down the averages

>but it is a reality
I know but I just wonder how the fuck this happens and how they get so many votes.

>Ever been in a university city?
sure I guess the young bluepilled retards are voting them in but there is actually more old people here than young ones, the middle aged-old people are all bitching about the Linke cucks.

sometimes I doubt they vote at all, never really met someone who was really into politics or even had a fucking idea how the system here works or is supposed to work.

Old people tend to vote for old parties, what always has been there. I fathom that there are many GDR nostalgists in the East, similar to all of those Sovietboos in Russia.

I don't feel like doing one of those interconnecting brain memes with categories like "Germans whomst've been born and educated in the East but moved to the West for jobs", so I'm just going to steal a page from Sup Forums and do power rankings.

German intelligence power rankings.
1. East Germans who moved to the West for jobs.
2. West Germans who actually are ethnic Germans and not Turks
3. East Germans who stayed in East Germany
4. Spaetaussiedler. These are ethnic Germans who moved to Germany after unification from places like Romania and Russia.
5. Ethnic Turks who run kebab shops and drive taxis.
6. Welfare recipients who have spent the last 3 decades drinking Oettinger or Schloss Pils to the point where they are absolutely retarded.
7. Turkish "youths" who aren't all that interested in taking over their fathers' kebab shops and have somehow adopted African Americans as a role model of how to assimilate into a Western society.


TL;DR The West is richer and generally attracts talent, but the students generally perform better in the East despite the economy sucking in that part of the country. It's kind of like the Midwest vs the coasts in the US. Good schooling, but everyone with talent takes jobs elsewhere.

No, the opposite is true. All those eastern states suffer from depopulation, which means the the smarter ones gtfo.

Where do the smarter East Germans go? To those states better off, i.e. mainly the (economically) more successful southern states like Bavaria or Baden-Württemberg.

As a result there is now not only a severe western-eastern divide regarding IQ in Germany, but also a northern-southern IQ divide.

There is also a north-south IQ divide in eastern Germany: Saxony is smarter than the rest of the former GDR.

The divide was already very much noticable 15 years ago in Bundeswehr IQ tests done with young men - so not even a generation after the fall of the Iron Curtain. You bet is has gotten even worse since then.

>the only fucking bundesland that actually produce something of value is bayern.
>the next important thing is frankfurt which is finance city
and everything els is shit

Someone get statistics comparing Hauptschulen and Gymnasien.
I bet Gymnasien do better in the west, because the kids come from better households while the eastern Hauptschulen do better because they aren't >50% immigrant.

Nah, Eastern Abitur scores are generally better than the West's

It's funny how accurate that is. Most of the people I knew in the Gymnasium were in the highe middle class region ( I wasn't but I was pretty alone with that fact). My mom works in a Hauptschule and always talked about the refugee "children" bahaving like monkeys and insulting female teachers and personell.

There are enormous differences in the difficulty of the tests, though. Bavarian teachers joke about the difficulty of the Abitur in other states. In some it's even allowed for the teachers to talk about the upcoming questions of the tests with the pupils. The rule of thumb is that a Abitur made in Berlin is as much worth as a Bavarian Realschulabschluss (no fucking idea how I'm supposed to translate this, you just need to know that Abitur is higher than the Realschulabschluss, since we got a three way education system)

Gymnasium = Nerds, the absolute nerds, just look a them
Realschule = the most normal ones
Hauptschule = the coolest

There's nothing cool about being a bunch of dumbasses and shitskins in the retard school

Do you have any standardized testing or do your pozzed faggot Green party members decry that as being too American?

its an insider joke only oldfags get

>There are enormous differences in the difficulty of the tests, though
The PISA seems to indicate the same trend as the Abitur grades.

What did Die Linke even do to have people always complain about them?

>inb4 IT'S AFRAID

Where are you from? My experience here in Munich is:
Gymnasium = Upper middle class kids that get pushed through by their helicopter parents with afternoon classes and so on. The view nerds in between are total outsiders.
Realschule = Normal people, I agree.
Hauptschule = Wannabe niggers! The only ones that are not come from broken families and are kinda weird, but decent guys. The girls are pure cancer.

They're aware of what socialism can do, so yeah.

Yes.

If the commies were incharge there would be walls and atheism.

The jihadists would not survive in Germany.

Education is a state level issue, so it's only regulated by the seperate regions. That's why the quality varies so much.

>oldfags
I'd say more like an insider only Germans get. Or do you think the German education system is that fascinating that non Germans would bother with getting up to speed with memes concerning it?

Stasi with it.

psssh...nothin personnel... kid

Communist education in East Germany led to a bunch of low IQ retards living there, including Frau Merkel.

No but they went through hard times

Heavy business regualtion and taxes just don't work in the long term, the East is the best example for that. Sure, Bavaria got gibs for a short time aswell, but now they are a self runner under, you guessed it, rather conservative rule. The East however is getting gibs for the entirety of the duration since the reunification and is still dirt poor.

*personel
Burger talk classes are a long time ago, m8. Have mercy.

yeah, but that's why most of them are too stupid to fall for propaganda. Greatest defenders of the West I say. Stupid enough not to fall for "violence is bad" meme and smart enough to apply violence towards enemies

>wokers of all nations, unite
Really makes me think.

They dindu nuffin. Unless you count having a voter base full of unreconstructed Stalinists as doing something wrong.


Real Talk: Die Linke is successful compared to the Greens because they still carry the SED coalition from the old days of the left side of the working class combined with a kind of middlebrow intelligentsia. In the West these groups were splintered with the former going to the SPD and being cucked by Schroeder going centrist and the latter going to the Greens .

*personal
But I shouldn't talk shit here. I wrote view instead of few in my last post.

>neoliberalism just twerks
Anything else? I keep hearing about culture and lack of mosques.

>Bavaria got gibs for a short time aswell,
Bavaria got gibs for nearly 50 years.

the usual stuff
>not enough money
>not enough gibs
>too many taxes to pay
>no jobs

who else to blame but the ones in charge?

yea I'd say the same, Hauptschule is the biggest tards ever.
literally containment

yes ancient german memes should be learned all over the globe.

german state at it again....

>who else to blame but the ones in charge?
Capitalism? :3c

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I checked again, it's personnel. I should have just written staff, much easier.

That was before it industrialized, though. It started out as almost 100% agricultural. Eastern Germany already is industrialized.

over 40 years of capitalistic degeneracy vs. authoritarian utopia larping, guess who is more based?

Missed the original context.

>got Abitur
>1,9
>lower middle class family
>mother didn't give a fuck anymore at about 8th grade because I convinced her I was good enough for her not to worry
Also, you'd be surprised by how nigger tier some people in the Gymnasium are (despite there being almost no foreigners except in the designated Ausländerklasse)

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I thought Ossis were all AfD supporters?

gj
The nigish kids in Gymnasium just dress stupid and listen to hiphop, Hauptschul-Ersatzneger are actually violent and pretend to be suppressed.

East Germany is what's wrong with Germany

I don't know whether they are smarter or not, but west germany is by far more degenerate than the East, maybe with the exception of Berlin.

They vote both AfD and Die Linke. The other parties dedicated their lifes to never team up with the AfD, though, which leads to this clusterfuck.

Yeah, there is a reason I told people that wanted to become teachers in a Hauptschule to take a flick-knife with them. It's pretty sad, though. Most of my older relatives went to the Hauptschule and actually made something out of themselves (my granddad was even somewhat wealthy). Going there didn't use to mean being a retarded nigger, only that you were going to learn a more practical profession as a worker. Nowadays it's just fucked.

Do Die Linke have good economic policy? Or are they just "Please fuck my neghole Achmed:33333" ?

Ossis don't do the moderate politics thing.

who here is /ossi/ masterrace?

No. If they were still independent they'd be the 5th member of the Visegrad 4.