So, libs all want free, basic healthcare, right?

So, libs all want free, basic healthcare, right?

Where do they think the money for that will come from?

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NO WAY

why do you think that they have ever thought about it?

They think rich people are piggy banks with unlimited cash.

Nope, they have the attention span of goldfish

How can Americans pretend to be so capitalist and shit and not even know how insurance works?

It's fucked up.

The answer is by lowering taxes. The reason why healthcare is so expensive right now is because people without insurance end up going to the hospital and in order for hospitals to recoup they have to charge outrageous prices for basic services.

If you give everyone access to healthcare, prices drop and the cost of healthcare drops. Instead of paying $500 a month for shit healthcare, you pay less. There's a reason why other capitalist countries have gone this route.

Ahh yes, the 1% should pay for the 99%.

Wow you just blew up their entire argument suck it libtards #MAGA

>Where do they think the money for that will come from?

wagecucks

Taxes. You know the F-35 costs $12,000 per taxpayer, all by itself, right? And hardly even flys reliably? This entire cost could be avoided simply by having friendly relations with Russia, not that libs advocate for such

>prices drop and the cost of healthcare drops
One could argue the quality of the healthcare would drop, but that's just conjecture.

Seriously though. Import tax.

Where does all the money come from for our giant military we use to protect other countries' interests?

>thinking they aren't

True, that could be argued. But right now the quality of healthcare in America is only really good for the incredibly wealthy. Otherwise it tends to be worse than other countries with singlepayer options.

That's why medical tourism tends to be so strong in the US.

Really high taxes. The current government funded healthcare system is so far in the red with unfunded liabilities on top of the debt, it will need a massive cash injection to get it back on track. Imagine putting 250 million more people on the current system? Cluster fuck. Another shitty government program that runs like shit.

So, cons all want free, basic military and police protection, right?

Where do they think the money for that will come from?

$12,000x138million=$1,656,000,000,000

not $178 million...

Liberal math...

Import tax would be ideal. Although I would advocate a revenue-neutral import tax - use that tax revenue to eliminate the income tax for the bottom 80%. Take away funding from the Military Industrial Complex and shift it to infrastructure and human services. Make friends with Russia, let them worry about the Mid East if they want to. Also, deregulate the health care industry so there can be lower costs. Let trained army medics work in ERs for example and set up lightly regulated alternatives to the private medical education/certificatios cartels

The F-35 is costing $1.45 trillion and there are an estimated 122 million taxpayers according to some, you are quibbling

Wait. Half the US doesn't pay any tax? The fuck?

If we can get the cash for it so can you Yankee boy. You have a stupid argument as many countries afford to so it all of which are poorer than yours. You lot are just stupid and believe your christ loving politicians rather than realising it's all a win for your population

Half the population+ doesnt pay any income tax. Sorry, I was refering only to Fed income tax. The Fed income tax was originally introduced as a 1% tax, which it should be; it should not be a tax on people doing actual work makimg middle class wages

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How is this ever getting past congress? Lobbyist money masters would kill it. Congress cant even repeal what is there now. Anything new cant be built on the shambles of the shit syatem we have now. I am not trying to shit on your idea or any idea. The corruption of the current system is stifling.

That's what happens when people can't survive on minimum wage. The government has to foot the bill that corporations aren't willing to pay and hand out gibs so there aren't mass riots from people starving to death.

well burgers, if you cut your military spending down some, you could afford to dish out some free healthcare.

cutting down the bloated defense budget

how many billions have so far been sunk into the F-35 or that shitty stealth boat?

The same place funding for the police and fire departments comes from

Liberals think the world works like a sonic game. Vid related youtube.com/watch?v=NIWyZmFSep0 Jammin' tunes though.

>world works like a sonic game.

what the fuck are you talking about lol

Remove the jewish special interest donating 8 million of your tax dollars to support Israel every year

Sure, granted, but what I am proposing is how the country functioned from 1780s-early 1970s. Import taxes used to fund national needs. No socialism or fascism required, just old-fashioned Americanism

>shitty stealth boat

I've got a great idea. How about, like, a boat, right, that like, travels underwater!

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We actually could defend the country with just the submarine fleet and the State National Guards. We have oceans and nukes.

didn't the us government spend like 100 billoin dollars upgrading their software, whe the whole thing was a complete waste of money?

isn't there like 1 trillion dollars missing?

why are americans so selfish? thereis no sense of communityin america.

it's the most selfish, individualistic shithole I've ever been to. everyone is out for number 1, nobody cares about anyone else

the worstpart of all of this is their family unit. it's like they don't even care about eachother, they don't even visit their relatives, they let their parents rot in nursing homes, even in boyfriend/girlfriend relationships it's all about 'getting sex' from the girl, while the guys gives the woman money and gifts basically

what a shithole honestly, I've never been anywhere where people care so little about eachother. they genuinely would rather their felow countrymen literally die, than pay a few extra dollars a week in taxes

always cracks me up seeing white nationalist groups try to get startedin the usa. it's impossible. competely impossible. americans simply do not care about eachother

From tax dollars. Wit single payer, you get the (((insurance companies))) out of the healthcare system.

Here we have 11% of our GDP spend on healthcare and everyone is covered, and in the the United States of America you have 90% covered, and spending 18% of GDP on healthcare. And guess what, our life expectancy is higher than yours.

But then again, Americans love spending too much money, especially when the recipients are Jews. Trumps Jewish dream team will do nothing about it unfortunately.

Libs are controlled by rich people. So are Conservatives. The difference is who they partner with.

Libs partner with poors, offering them the chance to vote themselves half of middle class people's money. Not of rich people's money of course, surely you're not dumb enough to think people like Bezos support liberal causes thinking it will cost them money. Poor people are willing to burn down the entire middle class of the US because they don't have the talent or work ethic to join it. By destroying the American dream for the rest of us poors can make their rape fantasies of being persecuted in a land of haves and have-nots come true, and spare themselves the feelings of inadequacy they get from living in a land of tens of millions of people earning a good living, while being unable to do so.

Conservatives partner with the middle class to protect them from the poors willing to burn it all down. The conservative rich people are therefore less evil than the liberal rich people who are the ones aiming to essentially enslave everyone else into a system of subsistence living and 'free' healthcare, ie being treated like livestock.

multiculturalism and heterogeneous society is shit.

1965 immigration act killed america

Yes. It didn't used to be this way. Thank (((libertarians))) (((Ancaps))) and the (((Austrian School of Economics))). Notice how no one ever talks about the "American School of Economics?" It's a real thing, and how the country was run from the founding until the early 1970s, when (((free trade))) took over

>1965 Immigration Act

I see this mentioned often as the cause for all sorts of problems but what did it actually do, or what did it allow to happen?

YOU FUCKERS DON'T HAVE A MILITARY THE SIZE OF OURS!!! We're the fucking world police WE pay for that so YOU have more money for your medical gibs! Fuck I hate when Canadians and Europoors bitch bitch about us not having "free" healthcare.

YOU FUCKERS DON'T HAVE A MILITARY THE SIZE OF OURS!!! We're the fucking world police WE pay for that so YOU have more money for your medical gibs! Fuck I hate when Canadians and Europoors bitch bitch about us not having "free" healthcare.

how does one plane cost over a trillion dollars

allowed non europeans to immigrate much easier, to the point that it changed americas demographics from 90%~ white to 54 or whatever percent it is now within 50-60 years.

Of course, illegal immigration and birth right contributed to it as well. but it was the beginning of these immigration policies

Aaah. So it was basically like when we got rid of the White Australia Policy over here.

From taxes. The private system is not working, nor has it ever worked. Before Obamacare you guys bitched about how every ill-problem wrong with healthcare was from pre-existing regulations that need to be deregulated. Now that you guys are in power, you have trouble with getting your own party to agree with scaling it back. We had a free-market up until the very onset of modern medicine, which explicitly requires regulations to work. It gave us neat things like "humorism" and other ineffective psuedo-medical practices and beliefs.

>what did it allow to happen?
Flood the US with non-Europeans.

It helps if you say "willingness and ability" instead of money. Libs think money grows on trees, but have a hard time explaining how they intend to steal all that willingness and ability from the rich.

Since democrats want it so bad, then I believe that everyone registered as a democrat should be taxed to pay for it. Democrat tax rate will be 20% of each paycheck.

Wjo do you think is going to invade Europe? Aside from immigrants, which is their own doing. The meme that Russia is going to invade Europe is propaganda to justify weapons sales. We used to buy weapons to fight wars; we now fight wars to buy weapons.

Crikey mate. Bloke never hearda the magical niggers, have yee?

Make it 40%, that's what I pay.

Also sage

>Where do they think the money for that will come from?

The government of course! That's as far as they'll think about it. Not about unsustainable debt or taxes or any of that boring shit. That's the problem with democracy.

Obongo's After. Isn't that where all their taste is from?

>Where do they think the money for that will come from?

The printing press?

Lrn 2 econ

Even then its like half of the US is either under age, elderly/retired, or unemployed. I definitely can't you guys for being resentful about taxes.

It will all come from white Americans, because whites pay all the taxes

I'll gladly take 20% of each paycheck. That's literally less than I pay for healthcare.

You just reminded me that I'll never own a moveable type printing press and now I hate you.

reduce military spending by 10% and use it to cover all health care and provide free public college
invest in infrastructure for new jobs and bussiness
create new global trade treaties with japan, EU and developing african nations

Is that only your federal/state income tax or does it include sales tax, property tax, gasoline excise tax, sin tax, etc, etc, etc?

I bet if you add it all up your tax is 50% or more.

rich people
>the middle class or whats left of it anyway. pretty anybody who isnt on welfare but not rich enough to avoid taxes

>reduce military spending by 10%
how about reduce by 90%, leaving 10%; which is still too much

jojo in 2017? lmao

Yup.

The government could literally fund itself without any taxes. Priting money is only inflationary if used for non-productive things. Like if you build a million dollar bidge that results in multimillions of new economic activity or cost savings, the bridge spending is not inflationary, even if the money for it was printed out of thin air. Money is just a tool for coordinating labor and resources, it is created out of thin air anyways by the (((banking system))), its just a question of what we build and who, if anyone, gets the (((interest payments)))

>But then again, Americans love spending too much money, especially when the recipients are Jews. Trumps Jewish dream team will do nothing about it unfortunately.

This is the truth. Our healthcare system is designed to screw over the domestic populace so wealthy Jews and Saudi Princes can come here for timely and innovative treatments that the people who live here could never afford.

Don't forget the 30 million noggerxicans. Their kids. Some muzzies. Boomers. The true red/blackpill is women's contributions.

The best part is the only "people" who complain about taxes are the nonwhites that (magically, because math be hard n shieeeet) get back their retarded withholdings from the part time mcjob.

Taxes on wealthier people, just like everywhere else where single payer exists.

Huh? So the same amount of healthcare is dispensed but it costs less now? What you discribed is the problem with canadas healthcare, there are shitty poor people who rack up thousands in costs and everyone else has to cover it. Either everyone gets it and it costs an insane amount or we let idiots suffer themselves, pick one...

You think left leaning people or politicians ever think about where the money comes from?

They just raise everyone's taxes and get heavily into debt to (((them)))

Look at Europe. They brought in millions of refugees and when the left wanted more they started talking about borrowing money to feed and house them all.

Absolute insanity.

F-35? Its still in prototype phase, and if some of the info that came from it, it could wipe a whole shitskin village without them even hearing the jet flying by.

>Friendly relations with Russia
We aren't building these big ass fighters for war against Russia, fag. We build nukes for that.

says some faggot with the United Nations banner

The problem with canadian healthcare? It costs less than US healthcare for slightly lesser care.

And if you're in favor of 'letting idiots suffer' then you're admitting that you're essentially in favor of becoming third world country. The last thing you should be advocating is for hospitals to have the right to deny healthcare to people.

Well where the fuck are you guys sending that money now? Because it looks like you're just flushing it down the toilet and still making your citizens pay for

Why are you paying twice?

>UN
Go kidnap and fuck babies somewhere else.

lmao we could half our military and still be insanely powerful. Lobbyists are grabbing our money to make tanks and planes and bombs we will never use, you fucking cuck

How many dems in CA and NY will be willing to give up 20% of their paychecks though. Considering they believe that average Americans make $250,000 a year.

>Where do they think the money for that will come from?
The Jews after we confiscate all of their property

It's not just military spending that we spare the rest of NATO/UN:

How The US Subsidizes Cheap Drugs For Europe

ibtimes.com/how-us-subsidizes-cheap-drugs-europe-2112662

add: California already taxes an obscene amount for federal/state around 55%. Imagine that going to 75%.

Considering CA is pushing hard for single-payer right now? Apparently quite a bit.

And the only people that believe the average American makes $250,000 a year are Republicans.

Except the wealthy will simply move to a country with lower taxes. It happened in Norway. The wealthiest Norwegian is now a citizen of Cyprus and lives in London.

Don't know what you watch but it was Hillary and Bernie spouting off the $250K lie during the campaign.

I've asked leftists this kind of thing about various leftist issues.

The answer is apparently "Rich people."

The answer is always to raise taxes on anyone making more than them, and lower tower on anyone making less than them.


It's that simple.

Memeflag faggot. San fran, la, and San Diego are known republican strongholds.

You know, the places where you qualify for food stamps for making under 130k a year...

Healthcare costs are high because minorities and illegals aren't paying bills. But under universal healthcare, those two groups still aren't paying the bills.

How exactly does that help lower costs? If anything it pushes more non-contributors into the system due to ease of access, which raises costs even more.

We spend trillions on dropping bombs on mud huts in the middle of nowhere, the politicians convince you retards that this is good for our economy.

Try stretching you imaginations to envision spending that money on medicine here at home. At least when we are done spending, we will have hospitals, medicines, life saving surgeries, and peace of mind far greater than that peace of mind provided by smouldering mud huts on the other side of the planet.

In the US they just get themselves tax exemptions, no need to move. Increased taxes are for people that work for a living, not those that invest their $ for a living.

Yes, NY and CA liberals are the ones that think everyone in the US is doing well enough to welcome in a flood of immigrants and not be negatively affected.

Didn't California just nuke single payer though?

Out of touch liberals

The fucking shareholders of healthcare companies need their dividends raised every year buddy.

add up all the poor people, all the kids, etc. etc.

easy to reach number

>NY and CA liberals
wat we are the ones pushing for progressive policies to help everyone in the country that isn't a 1 percenter. Lobbyists ruined the country not legal immigrants

You realize this information is all public, correct? People in California have around ~34-35% of their income taxed. This is with federal + state income tax and various minor taxes accounted for.

Middle-class Americans. The majority of Americans are in the working class. That's a key distinction to be made, although a bullshit one to attempt to appeal to the retards.

cdss.ca.gov/foodstamps/res/pdf/PUB464Eng.pdf

Again, all this information is publicly available and you're objectively wrong.

$1.5t for research, development, and procurement for all current and expected orders around the globe, in 2070 dollars.

Even tho my country is fucked, this mang here is right, your health care workds and if not for the ungodly amount of corruption we would have a second world country by now.