This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, Objectivism, Anti-Communism, Right-Wing Populism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian.
When are we offering free heli rides to all commie leafs?
Jack Garcia
Details? There are less communists here than you think.
Adrian Stewart
It's my paste nigga. I play it fast and loose. Now user.
Connor Ortiz
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Isaiah Johnson
>Details? Iceland had a libertarian-style polycentric legal system. Probably a few books on it, certainly it's a widely used example of the success of such a system.
Kayden Johnson
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Grayson Jones
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Wyatt Gray
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Blake Ward
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Isaiah Sanders
>Sup Forums's right-wing literature downloads Where would this be?
Colton Sullivan
The link is dead and I haven't found a replacement, however all of not most of Hoppe and Rothbards books I shill can be found at libertarianright.org/reading as posted in the OP
Brandon Barnes
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Thomas Baker
>Prenup 10/10
Christian Brown
Thanks. :)
Andrew Davis
When I debate people of the State exists, or not, I usually compare it to religion (most young people in Denmark are atheists.) It usually goes: >the state doesn't exist >b-but government buildings and employees! >are churches and priests the sole proof of religion/God?
How would you explain the non-existence of the State to a religious person?
Asher Wood
The state does exist. Does it not? Abstract as it may be there are real institutions and people who impose their will on others that we refer to as the state.
Eli Morales
>that we refer to as the state Yes, we refer to it as "the State," but that doesn't prove that the State exists materially (that's what I'm arguing.) Only the individuals, e.g. police officers, politicians, etc. exists, but the State (which they say they represent) doesn't.
Brayden Jones
Do you mean the mysticism of 'for the State' or 'for the Greater Good'? Obviously the state exists, but this sort of higher meaning of society and state often used by anti-individualists like fascists is pure bollocks.
Dylan Anderson
I think AnCaps get trapped in the "individuals only" mindset, while I cannot deny that the state is not an individual entity or that "collectives don't exist". it's also undeniable that individuals act differently when they're involved in these collectives and that their individual actions can be shown to be motivated by a central or group interest.
You can say slavery doesn't exist, but the relation of the master and slave is very real.
Andrew Ross
>Do you mean the mysticism of 'for the State' or 'for the Greater Good'? Obviously the state exists, but this sort of higher meaning of society and state often used by anti-individualists like fascists is pure bollocks. No really. I don't think the argument "for the greater good," is a legitimate reason to violate the NAP. But I also disagree that the state exists materially. It only exists as a concept (or as a relation, as pointed out.)
Gabriel Butler
Not really*
Michael Bell
Name one successful AUTHORITARIAN society. Exactly leaf, they all crumple because people don't like being told what to do.
Leo Young
They last long enough for them to claim it a success. Monarchies did pretty well. Though they're less intrusive than modern authoritarian states.
Liam Edwards
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Levi Perry
Early America Roman Empire in times of peace
Juan Price
They did, for a while. But the moment they stepped to far. the people would always revolt (EX: French Revolution, American Revolution, etc.)
Also, the second the industrial revolution came along and boosted the quality of life for the average Joe, most people started demanding more and more. Voting rights for women, sewage systems, Etc. So, regardless, in the modern world I think that since we've all gotten a taste of a life of luxury, we would hate to regress back to anything even remotely authoritarian. (except for the SJWs; those people are corupted beyond belief).
Carson White
Heads up: the Mises Institute is doing live lectures as part of their "Mises University" event.
It's streaming on youtube. I'm sure some of you will be interested.
Jeremiah Young
Well, we know that capitalism works, and we know that highly decentralized societies work. Anarchocapitalism is just that taken to its logical conclusion.
There's a few very interesting historical examples of anarchocapitalist principles at work. There's the Wild West (not actually that wild, it was pretty peaceful there). There's Celtic Ireland, which had competing chieftains and a king whose only political function was to coordinate military defenses. There was also the Icelandic Commonwealth, which also had competing chieftains, and the only central authority was a gathering that the chieftains attended, but there was no king at all. Somalia is sometimes named, although it still has tribes and states, like Galmudug and Puntland, so I wouldn't count it (although it does demonstrate that sometimes, a central government sucks compared to just letting niggers be niggers). There was another society in Southeast China, a book was written about it but I haven't read it. And there's Pennsylvania from 1681 to 1690, which had no functioning government at all and things went wonderful.
Brayden Watson
The monarchy before the French Revolution wasn't so bad. It was actually nicer than the post-revolutionary period for decades to come. Same with the October Revolution.
The American Revolution is something else entirely. The people were estranged from the king of a country that didn't want them to begin with, but they still had a pretty good life. It was more of a war for independence and not so much a revolution, and it absolutely cannot be compared to the French Revolution. The French were proles throwing shitfits because they dreamed of utopia, the Americans were just whigs wanting their independence. Alexander Hamilton even wanted the President to be an elected monarch for life.
Christian Davis
1. >It was actually nicer than the post-revolutionary period for decades to come
Yes, but that's because their entire movement was co-opted by Napolian, who (as we both know) started multiple wars of territorial expansion before a European coalition but them in their place and razed the cities (twice).
2. >Same with the October Revolution
In general concept (down with the power and instate a new one; yes), but the outcome of the october revolution restricted people's economic and social rights, where as the outcome of the French Revolution was decriminalizing homosexuality, legalizing divorce (hey, i never said all of these were good), and making slavery illegal.
3. >The American Revolution is something else entirely
I don't agree with that. The colonists were being exploited by the UK (in terms of taxes, regular home invasions with no court order, inability to speak critically of the Crown, you get the point). I find it very similar to the French Rev. even though their outcomes diverge on a detailed level (by that i mean, for instance, the French ended slavery, the US didn't, etc.)
Wyatt Edwards
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Asher Bailey
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Jason Fisher
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Grayson Rivera
Question for non hoppes If commies move next door and start preaching their message on your covenants "common" ground Do you remove.? If a members sells his propery to a nigger that start polluting and slinging crack. Do you remove? I say yes
Asher Jenkins
Copypasting from a response I wrote a couple nights ago:
The contract says "We all agree not to sell to niggers or felons. We all agree to not freeload on defense insurance etc. This contract must be transferred to the next owner. Breaking this contract is tantamount to theft of $10k from each other signatory."
If someone breaks the contract, which he has every right to do, he will have to pay damages. Underwriters will secure the contract for a certain fee, maybe $50 per party.
Insurance companies will try to get people to sign such contracts because it increases property values, reduces crime etc for free. Yes, for just the cost of the paper. A house is more valuable if there's a guarantee of good neighbors.
So in addition to heavily disincentivizing the sale, even if this crack smoking nig moves in, homeowners are compensated for the damage he's doing to the community. If you want a tighter guarantee, just pick a community with a larger bond, although the underwriting will be more expensive. But that's a price you're willing to pay.
David Evans
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Camden Sullivan
He is a nigger. he wont pay. Assume that for some reason there is no local insurance company to meditate, he accepts no meditated resolution and continues
Christian Bennett
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Justin Walker
>Name one successful AUTHORITARIAN society. Exactly leaf, they all crumple because people don't like being told what to do.
singapore.
Jordan Anderson
In 's pic related, which order should one read? Should I finish the columns ("Ethics & Law", "Statism Critics" and "Economics") separately, or the rows ("Novice", "Beginner" and "Proficient")?
John Nguyen
You misunderstand. The original owner is prevented from selling. It's the original owner who has to pay the bond for breach of contract. He can certainly roll that into the asking price of the property if he wants, although this puts him at a disadvantage in the market.
Also, in the case that the original owner refuses to pay the fee, as I said >Underwriters will secure the contract for a certain fee Do you understand the role of the underwriter? You wouldn't join a covenant community if their covenant isn't secured would you?
Isaac Hughes
I usually read by what interests me. If you want a proper education I'd read one of each column. I don't know how well read you are. If you've read nothing start with "anatomy of the state" it's short and easy reading.
Had a peak viewership of about 140. Come hand out.
Nicholas Collins
>Yes, but that's because their entire movement was co-opted by Napolian The French Revolution was degenerate to begin with. It was based on the ideas of guys like Rousseau and de Sade, the former a hopeless romanticist and neurotic, the latter a criminally insane sexual deviant, rapist and . Mob violence went rampant, up to three-hundred thousand people were killed before Napoleon even entered the scene, prisons were emptied and the prisoners mercilessly slaughtered, innocent people were tied up and thrown in the river, "infernal columns" (that was their actual name) raped and murdered with impunity... And for what? Like I said, people weren't doing better after the French Revolution. They got dragged into the Napoleonic Wars, conscription was introduced to Europe, the media were censored, and living standards decreased for a good fifty years compared to pre-revolutionary France. Even socialism can be traced back to the French Revolution, as well as other ideologies that deny the sanctity of human life.
And yes, the Americans were exploited. Not as bad the Britains themselves, though. The geographic distance alone made sure that it couldn't hit the Americans as bad as the Britains, yet they rebelled and not the Brits. Although I like the War of Independence, it's a just war if there ever was one.
Hunter Fisher
>Come hand out
...I mean... come HANG out. I'm not a commie. I swear. pls no physical remove.
Camden Brooks
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Gabriel Evans
Right now I'm reading "Against the State," but I've also read "Egalitarianism as a Revolt Against Nature" and "Chaos Theory." Those are the only "ancap" books I've read. But I've definitely look into "Anatomy of the state," thanks for the tip.
Austin Bell
>Murray (((Rothbard)))
Adrian Sanders
>Singapore >established by the British as a colony.
Any coincidence between British rule and high development? Oh wait, probably shouldn't be asking a nation who's only colony is now the top 20 for infant mortality...
Benjamin Sullivan
>An honorary white, savior of Western liberty and civilization.
Ayden Garcia
Lolbertarians, hate communists but worship Jewish economists.
Idiots.
Oliver Hill
Agreeing with arguments doesn't equal worship.
Sebastian Ortiz
Fine, I'll give you that point.
>Not as bad the Britains themselves, though What exactly do you mean by that?
Lucas Thomas
How does /lrg/ feel toward Rand Paul?
Matthew Lewis
You will know the vengeance of goyish capitalism.
Hunter Howard
Any thoughts on Chapo Trap House? It is a collection of progressive writers who made a podcast where they mock anyone to the right of Bernie. They seem funny enough but their analyses are generally simplistic
Kevin Gray
Can never replace Ron. Cucks quite a bit, but is good on policy.
Hunter Parker
>Watching leftist podcasts.
Justin Roberts
We hate communism for what it entails, and so we hate communists. We like what free market capitalism entails, so we like the Jewish economists who espouse the free market. Kys
Leo Gomez
I try not to let myself get blindsided by other group's criticisms of my view.
Thomas Johnson
This.
And that's damn hard. Like you color btw.
Landon Butler
thx.
That podcast is sort of easy to listen to since half the time they are ripping on obama/hillary/jeb/bill kristol which I am totally on board with
>we like the Jewish economists It's you that needs to kill yourself
trusting the Jew, very stupid.
David Diaz
I guess I'm jaded, I just assume leftists need to be eradicated.
Lincoln Reed
So do ancaps.
Brody Miller
>Celtic Iceland >Roman Empire in times of peace
Y'all need to learn some history
Also, remember to TREAD.
P.S. No capitalist society has ever worked. Especially for its people.
> But muh early mercantile companies South sea bubble > Colonial america Was full of many a slave based quasi-aristocratic mercantile republic that failed (several times). > Modern US Is leading the world towards massive ecologically - induced death > CHYNA Is not capitalist. Large companies there may look it, but are still tied to a very long-winded plan. The hundred year strategy will be the finishing kick to capitalism's teeth.
Colton Peterson
Read Mises.
Ayden Anderson
You can't eradicate me if I physically remove you first.
Aiden Campbell
And especially "natsocs" "fascists" and all the rest of em. A free world is a Green world.
Jack Turner
Lol are you for real?
Parker Cruz
yeah that is my default half of the time, but I try to keep up with their current nonsense so I never am at a disadvantage in a debate
Kevin James
You'd probably have to physically remove your blinkers and the carrot in your arse first
Hunter Walker
Ah yes, Mises. The son of a "court Jew" that would become himself a "corporate Jew" (note I'm not pissing on jews here - just the pets of first aristocratic courts and later corporate boardrooms that rode their masters coattails to academic proeminence).
Alexander Nelson
The man that destroyed any form of leftism and collectivism, yes.
Elijah Evans
That flag doesen't mean what you think it means. Green anarchy is not anarcho-primitivism. It's a technologically driven, ecologically based direct democracy.
David Miller
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Nicholas Smith
>Jew >Man Pick one.
Sebastian Long
If you found out toilet paper was invented by a Jew, would you stop wiping your ass? While we put thought into our beliefs, you run around screaming "KIKE! KIKE!" the moment you see that Jews are involved in something, while not even understanding what that something is. Gas yourself, faggot. You have the critical thinking ability of a child
Adam Walker
Guys, don't feed the shill.
Caleb Stewart
Never happen, Jews never invent anything just steal ideas from white people.
Evan Collins
So I've tried reading Human Action a few times and keep finding it too dry and abstract. Is there a good site that breaks down this book in a more digestable way?
Charles Cooper
>Australians >White I am lmfaoing at you "mate".
Aaron Hall
Your beliefs are selfish, childish and total unrealistic and all you deserve is ridicule.
You are not worthy to engage with seriously.
Go and jerk off on your picture of Ayn Rand again Jew lover.
Aiden Reed
Try reading "Man, Economy, and State" by Murray Rothbard first. That'll introduce you to praxeology and give you an understanding of Austrian theory. Then try reading Human Action
Isaiah Martin
>Is there a good site that breaks down this book in a more digestable way? There's a book that does it - Choice by Murphy
Blake Thompson
Just because uncle Hitler said that that's so, doesn't make it so.
>Your beliefs are selfish, childish and total unrealistic and all you deserve is ridicule. As selfish as forcing people to give up their labor and money at gunpoint? >You are not worthy to engage with seriously. Neither are you, but your head is too far up your ass to understand that >Go and jerk off on your picture of Ayn Rand again Jew lover. Not even a fan of Ayn Rand. Kill yourself, nigger
Jace Long
>As selfish as forcing people to give up their labor and money at gunpoint?
Lol and this will never happen under AnCap hey?
Hudson Sanders
What did I just fucking say?
Nathan Gomez
Capitalism is slavery, without government to restrain it it would enslave or kill everyone.
That's what governments were created for, to protect people from predatory selfish greedy cunts with no empathy like you AnCaps.
Landon Myers
It won't be worshipped as a virtue as you currently do.
Kayden Morris
Nah man. It's good for a bump and debunking shit memes.
Matthew Bennett
>Capitalism is slavery, without government to restrain it it would enslave or kill everyone. Funny how its the government that's doing exactly what you think corporations in a free market would do. >That's what governments were created for, to protect people from predatory selfish greedy cunts with no empathy like you AnCaps. And look at how well that's turned out. Governments that take deprive us of our liberties, conscript us for avoidable wars, and steal from our pockets clearly do care about us. The Satan-worshiping baby-fuckers and Jews in the government clearly do care about us. Put a bullet in your brain, buddy
Chase Diaz
>Put a bullet in your brain That's not allowed without government permission.
