PAGANISM GENERAL

PAGANISM GENERAL

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This is a thread for the discussion of Paganism, the future of Aryan Race, Culture, Traditionalism, Jewish Question and Christianity.

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Varg Vikernes
>youtube.com/user/ThuleanPerspective

Survive the Jive
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Aryan Kitchen
>youtube.com/channel/UCMiZ7r52r6onVo9J5tCzNBg

Forgotten Roots
>youtube.com/channel/UCJpN-GBTchQaSVwBbefYMNg

DukeOfDurham
>youtube.com/channel/UCXrzcmZ9eIkQi-u2BPH_4ug/featured

Survival Russia
>youtube.com/user/Moscowprepper

Jackson Crawford
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>Varg
Way to discredit yourself out of the gate paganfag, delete the murderous autist and people might take you seriously.

Euronymous was a degenerate, I don't care for his life you shouldn't either.

Where does paganism stand on homosexuality?

Can I exist in a pagan country?

euro deserved it

Homosexuals are not welcome into paganism.

>wahhh wahhh he murdered someone

Only a Christian would complain about someone having the balls to take another's life.

I don't care about them, but using a moronic autist who doesn't even believe in your gods does your movement no aid.

Allow me to sub in for the vargists:
"Le bog you go xDDD"

>only pagans are germanics

Just stop now and change your flag back faggot.

>Unironically being a pagan

Why do you deny the only god that has ever listened to you?

>Just stop now and change your flag back faggot.
Slavs had the same practice as well, I quoted the Vedic Aryans as well.

>Unironically being an alt-light, "kekistan", trump worshipper.

You do make useful idiots though.

Only a "Christian" so called. might have the balls to condemn.
I go by the books. The King James Bible
and the supposed Noble Quaran.

>Slavs had the same practice as well
We know bugger all about slavic practices. And it still doesn't deal with the big elephant in the room, the Romans and Greeks, the only pagans smart enough to read and write.

Oh I do hope they expound the "Kek is an ettin" nonsense, it's a delightfully autistic theory.

What have other gods done for you?

Can you show me a specific text that prohibits homosexuality?

I don't see why I cannot be pagan unless someone shows me specifically where it says I cannot be gay.

Fuck off, this is your home.

Daily reminder that a nation is founded due to and defined by its people and culture, as determined by evolutionary pressures affecting their psyche and cultural traditions which are passed down through generations. The European races are fundamentally connected to their gods and their old religion, and until European bloodlines all die out the old gods will exist and affect our every move and perception, for they are a part of us.

Christianity is a foreign desert religion that was considered a subsect of Judaism for its first centuries of existence, because it was. Its values, beliefs and traditions do not reflect those of native Europeans, and they never will. The only reason why Europe lasted so long under Christianity is due to Catholicism melding the practices of Roman paganism which included strict traditions and rituals with Christianity; the second Protestantism was introduced, i.e. "true" Christianity, the west developed a philosophy based on monetary wealth and material obsession, resulting in materialist governments that did not care about the people or culture and led us into this mess today. Protestantism reveals the true nature of Christianity, an ideology of hedonistic selfishness, which preaches that you can literally do anything as long as you have faith and still be saved. This mindset is exactly what allows people to fall into and engage in degenerate behavior and forget the culture. Under this statute, race mixing doesn't matter, European civilization doesn't matter, discipline and self control don't matter.

Return to your old blood and awaken the old gods just as the National Socialists awoke Wotan.

He'll come back with some Hindi nonsense most likely. Check out their discord, it's funny as hell.

We don't have a holy book to point to, we have archaeology. In pagan society fags were drowned in bogs.

The fact that you need to have a piece of scripture tell you not to sodomize other men, and are incapable of using your reason to understand why its degenerate, shows that Christcucks are all brainwashed faggots just itching for the need to unleash all of their hedonistic fantasies. Save yourselves.

>balls to condemn
>wahh wahh he didn't abide by my feminine social conventions and use passive aggression like i am doing right now!

You go by the word, we Pagans go by the ACT.
"It’s written here: ‘In the Beginning was the Word!’
Here I stick already! Who can help me? It’s absurd,
Impossible, for me to rate the word so highly
I must try to say it differently
If I’m truly inspired by the Spirit. I find
I’ve written here: ‘In the Beginning was the Mind’.
Let me consider that first sentence,
So my pen won’t run on in advance!
Is it Mind that works and creates what’s ours?
It should say: ‘In the beginning was the Power!’
Yet even while I write the words down,
I’m warned: I’m no closer with these I’ve found.
The Spirit helps me! I have it now, intact.
And firmly write: ‘In the Beginning was the Act!’" -Goethe

>we have archaeology
Achaeology doesn't produce holy text, traditions and customs it just shows you how a temple might have looked.
>In pagan society fags were drowned in bogs.
Which Pagan society, there is no unitary Pagan society.

I can't help but notice, as Romania bro pointed out, you larpers haven't addressed Greece and Rome. I'm waiting to see what double think or Varg cocksucking you pull to explain it.

What about them? All homosexuality in Greek society was restricted to elite degenerates who were looked down upon and disgusted by the vast majority of normal people, people were also likely more faithful as a result of living more honest lives.

Pagan societies are all closely linked. You'll notice many gods are the same across most of pre-Christian Europe, simply renamed and slightly modified based on the specific people. The general ideals and concepts are all inherent to the European race however

We don't need "texts", we pass down our traditions through our blood.

Even Socrates, admitted that books only produce forgetfulness.

Pagan societies do have a common attitude towards existence which they have expressed as an honest relationship with reality, willing to engage it directly, instead of relying on abstractions like Abrahamics do.

So you have nothing other than personal opinion to back up your claims that I cannot be gay, that means you have no right to exclude me if I want to.

I love how masculine the Germanic gods were, so big and manly and sexy.

Indeed? That hardly sounds accurate, some sources perhaps?

You're laying it on a little too thick, subtlety is the key.

We have a right to exclude your faggotry because its degenerate, does not produce children, and is filthy and unhealthy. We determine this using our reason and intellect, gifts which we naturally have been bestowed upon us by the gods. Our natural skills of reason are thus divine, and it is divine commandment to listen and follow them.

>Pagan societies are all closely linked.

Nigger just stop, the Tharcians and Dacians where like pees in a pot and still ended up with completely different religions. And the Romans purposely destroyed multiple pagan gods, many more rituals and cults and practically exterminated druidism.

And that's besides the many special practices the Romans had, or the Greeks and ignoring the Baltics and other myriad of pagan religions in the East.

According to your bigoted judeo-christian culture based personal opinion.

You cannot stop me, you have no legitimate basis to exclude me aside from your hatred and hearsay.

Shut up, LARPing Christfag. There is nothing "subtle" about Judeo-Christianity and its negative influence on European society. See this pic in this post > And the Romans purposely destroyed multiple pagan gods, many more rituals and cults and practically exterminated druidism.

Pagan Rome? Or Catholicuck Rome?

>pagan religions in the east

I'm specifically referencing Europe, which should be obvious if you're not a retard.

> ended up with completely different religions

Define how they were "completely different".

Pathetic. It is an objective fact faggots put their penises in dirty holes filled with shit and are incapable of having children. These two things clearly indicate an inability to contribute to the white race and society (which is based entirely around the production of more white children). Nothing about your kike religion has any influence. Stop trying to justify your disgusting faggotry and sodomy. I know you lolbertarians love trying to do that, but it's just degenerate.

>We don't need "texts", we pass down our traditions through our blood.
Yeah I am totally sure that blood has magical mystical properties of carying laws and traditions unchanged.

>Pagan societies do have a common attitude towards existence which they have expressed as an honest relationship with reality, willing to engage it directly, instead of relying on abstractions like Abrahamics do.
Your entire sentence is and abstraction.

He is, while obviously trolling, correct. Your inherent lack of hierarchy and orthodoxy plays against you in this way, paganfags.

>lack of hierarchy

You're an utter retard and cannot comprehend that this is racial in nature, inherent to Europeans. Explain where in the egalitarian, universalist, Jew-filled teachings of Christianity that any hierarchy is promoted besides between that of normal people and Jew lord.

>Your entire sentence is and abstraction.

Not an argument

>Yeah I am totally sure that blood has magical mystical properties of carying laws and traditions unchanged.

You seem to be implying genetics don't exist and that traditions aren't passed down by families to children, both of which are illogical statements.

What I do in my bedroom is none of your business, mr.

You are a hateful bigoted conservashit, you only harbor anti-gay sentiment because you refuse to let go of your judeo-christian upbringing.

You cannot exclude me if I want to learn how to be a pagan.

Now stop being a bigot and tell me how to live like a pagan, I really like Tyr.

>Pagan Rome? Or Catholicuck Rome?

Pagan Rome m8, they hated Druids and also banned a lot of practices and cucked religions.

>I'm specifically referencing Europe, which should be obvious if you're not a retard.
I am referring to Eastern Europe, which if you can't figure out when in the same sentence I talk about the Baltics then you have a double digit IQ.

>Define how they were "completely different".
In Dacian Mythology Heaven is underground, and they also have a god more powerful than all the others and not infucking that the Greeks or Nords have in their pantheons.
And one of the thing I remember about the Baltics is them having some sort of chicken god or deity.

Your lack of reading comprehension is stunning, though not terribly surprising I suppose. The comment about subtlety was directed at the obviously trolling faggot user. Also, your assumption that I'm Christian is amusing, the flag was just to trigger you larpers.

>What is the Pope
>What is the Magisterium
>What is Ecclesiastical Authority and Apostolic Succession.
Your lack of knowledge about theology is laughable, may I suggest an introductory college course in church history?

>According to your bigoted judeo-christian culture based personal opinion.

No its called not having HIV and AIDS which is nature's way of removing you for engaging in pure hedonism.

Its called not investing any resources in someone whom will not produce offspring.

Call it personal opinion if you want, its not like we will convince you of your nonexistence.

Our bodies dont argue with viruses and diseases on the damage that their existence causes to the body, they are eliminated and removed despite whatever "arguments" and protests the viruses and diseases make.

>Not an argument
He didn't have one to begin with.

>You seem to be implying genetics don't exist and that traditions aren't passed down by families to children, both of which are illogical statements.
>YOU SEEM TO BE IMPLYING

You yourself admit that you can't even state that I am implying and go on a tirade that's unrelated.

If laws aren't written down they will change, human memory alone will alter it.

gay

You are unreasonable, thus you are ignoring your divine command to listen to this logic and reason. Ergo, you are heretical, and shall be shoved in a bog and killed. Faggot.

Oh my sweet summer child, you're bringing up Catholicism. You do understand that no where in actual Christian teachings are these things promoted, and that EVERY SINGLE THING is from Roman paganism, which ACTUALLY promoted tradition, rituals, and respecting authority? You do realize that Constantine had to incorporate all those things when he converted to Christianity as Roman Emperor because the majority of Rome was still Roman pagan in some fashion? And you do realize that Protestantism is a reaction to this, a regression to pure Christianity, which in turn is reflected by the obsession with materialism which it has brought to the west?

>If laws aren't written down they will change, human memory alone will alter it.

False, this would mean that laws are not affected by culture, or that you do not believe genetics affect culture, which is asinine and racial equalist speak.

Excuse me mr bigot, but HIV and AIDS have nothing to do with paganism, or show me where it says I will get HIV from being gay?

Aren't you supposed to help me?

I want to learn more about being a pagan and you guys are going full catholic on me.

So you're fine with people going around murdering people. You basically are a nigger.

Last part meant for

HIV comes from bacteria in shit coming into your body. Thus, don't commit sodomy, or you'll likely get something like it. Logic and reason. Logic and reason. Not that lolbertarian degenerates understand this.

Philippians 2:10-11
That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Revelation 5:13
And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever.

Romans 14:11
For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.

Revelation 1:7
Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

Revelation 6:15-17
And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

1 Peter 1:19-20
But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot: Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,

Hebrews 13:8
Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

>Jew quotes from Jew book

No one cares. Why don't you quote the OT aka The Talmud next? Kike. That's the only argument Christians have against fags anyway, otherwise they'd have to love and kiss their feet like Jewsus told them.

Ah, so you're a Protestant LARPing as a pagan. That explains a great deal. It's shame that real paganism will never see a resurgence, that would be a preferable alternative, but you'll never escape the chains of the mind that Protestantism foists upon you.

No it doesn't you philistine.

HIV is a virus.

Do you even know anything about the pagan religions or are you just here to be a conservashit pig?

I fully know that I can express my paganism while maintaining who I am and what I love.

Or are pagans not allowed to love?

> or that you do not believe genetics affect culture, which is asinine and racial equalist speak.
Please show me which genome determines if you check the stomach of the goat offering or the intestines for the good omen.
If genes have an effect on culture that is noticeable, history alone shows you that is not enough. As culture change many times in pagan societies. Look at Greece and how it changed every century, or look at Rome and how pagan religions and practices went out of favor and got replaced with new ones or even foreign ones.

>or show me where it says I will get HIV from being gay?
Sticking your dick up a body part that developed to expel waste, is a pretty unhygienic thing to do.
>muh condoms
The fact that you depend upon a technology to engage in your masturbation is proof alone of your unfitness.

You're better off joining some protestant Christian sect, who tolerates genetic mutations like you.

Varg is a loser who holds no particular expertise or influence.
you worship a failed musician living in the woods making youtube videos.
I can't imagine how shit your life is.

I'm not a Protestant, I just fucking criticized it and called it the main reason why materialism has plagued the west. The only one with shitty reading comprehension is you, evidently. Just know if you're a Catholic, the only reason any of the shit in it works is because it was taken directly from Pagan ideals (look at fucking nuns. Nuns "marry" God, just like pagan priestesses did which is where the idea came from, only difference is that in paganism the god was represented by a male priest so that they could still produce children, as opposed to Catholicucks restricting white women from having families).

Not an argument

Please explain to me how the culture of a people determined by their genetically defined intellect and temperament and behavioral patterns does not affect the overall way in which they create laws and view morals/the world.

Your words mean nothing here christian

Why do people think he worships Varg?

Because I read his post.

Nothing in his post indicates he worships Varg, the only mention of Varg is an offhand link to his youtube channel with several others at the bottom of his post. Stop being a braindead faggot.

So the "Crusaders" were niggers then?

Proud European pagan here. Fuck Varg, he's an autistic freak who makes us look bad.

We need to stop being LARPfags.

This too though. Varg has a lot of issues philosophically and can be retarded. Most pagans appreciate his admirable lifestyle but dislike much of his teachings.

>Please explain to me how the culture of a people determined by their genetically defined intellect and temperament and behavioral patterns does not affect the overall way in which they create laws and view morals/the world.
History proves you wrong. Especially Roman Law, how it turned from a Republic to a Kingdom and how laws appeared like Bread and Circus or how the Volunteer Army became a Conscripted one, or how Spartha lost to Athens or how the Macedons took over. There are countless examples in history where you had the same ethnic people have a very different culture, laws and morals, sometimes that change appearing in a short space of time and lasting equally long.

Not to mention that temperament and behavioral patterns are more down to upbringing and epigenetics.

proud european pagan here

I love the crusaders

ANYONE WHO SAYS ALL CHRISTIAN EUROPEANS WHO EVER EXISTED WERE ANTIWHITE IS FULL OF SHIT

STOP INFIGHTING GUYS. STOP ATTACKING CHRISTIAN VS PAGAN IT'S FUCKING GAY AS FUCK.

>Fuck Varg, he's an autistic freak who makes us look bad.
>We need to stop being LARPfags.

That's cute, how many white children have you created by the way?

As I stated, I'm not Christian. Paganism would be preferable, but you people destroy your own movement with hostility and pseudo-intellectualism. Your acceptance of anything Vikernes says is proof enough of this, I look forward to the day when this is no longer the case, however.

>Proud European pagan here

Yeah ok, Varg says some retarded stuff but he makes a lot good point. He does a lot more for our movement than 99% of people he already has 5 kids.

>History proves you wrong. Especially Roman Law, how it turned from a Republic to a Kingdom and how laws appeared like Bread and Circus or how the Volunteer Army became a Conscripted one, or how Spartha lost to Athens or how the Macedons took over. There are countless examples in history where you had the same ethnic people have a very different culture, laws and morals, sometimes that change appearing in a short space of time and lasting equally long.

These are differences, yes. However the fundamentally follow the same aspects of order and government. This is like saying that monarchy and democracy being different prove that niggers are able to integrate just as well with white culture as whites are.

You are unironically spouting racial equalist drivel though, so I'm assuming you're a commie fag.

>acceptance of anything Vikernes says is proof

I do not accept anything Vikernes says. Major strawman and logical fallacy. You're incredibly dumb.

Oh my gosh, you guys are just a bunch of judeo-christian culture pushing bigots, I can't believe how closed-minded you all are.

You don't even know anything about paganism, you just want to maintain a bigoted counter culture without letting go of the old culture.

Lars is fucking based love his videos, learned a shit ton from them.

"judeo-christian culture" is what keeps you alive today, moron.

While proving my previous point about outward hostility, ironically. Shame, as I was going to revise the point as you saying you don't care for Vikernes.

>muh kids
Mean absolutely nothing while the mode prominent "pagan" on the internet continues to push people away by being a retarded autist.

No surprise a faggot with that flag doesn't know anything about history.

Pol is a Christian board

I'm just sick of the infighting. We need to unite our race now, more than ever. Paganism should be able Europe's native traditions and celebrating them, not bashing people for being Christian.

For the record, I wish Christianity never came to Europe, but that's beside the point. I'm not going to attacking pro-white Christians who are on our side, today.

Not an argument, you're full of shit. Varg having kids is great, and obviously he's not a horrible person. But Varg shouldn't be the famous face of European paganism. He should be some weird guy who no one cares much about.

Varg's a good guy, but he's a kook. I'd love to have him as a neighbor and I wish him only well, but the guy is everything that people use to mck paganism with.

We need to imagine what European paganism would have become or could have become if Christianity has not displaced it. I don't think this "muh vikings" larpy type of paganism is true to the spirit, it's just an excuse to endlessly blame Europe's problems on Christianity.

We don't know that a pagan Europe would have been totally resistant to the problems that we have today. We just don't know. People like Varg cause infighting.

>These are differences, yes. However the fundamentally follow the same aspects of order and government.

No they don't. Bread and Circus and the Conscripted Army show two things, the fact that the Roman man became a sloth unable to feed himself or willingly fight for his country showing a moral change, a big one. Or that the Roman society and culture became one where you where forced into service but would be guaranteed welfare.

The fall of Sparta shows the death of militarism, and their entire caste system and the domination of the democracy/dictatorship and free citizen system.
> This is like saying that monarchy and democracy being different prove that niggers are able to integrate just as well with white culture as whites are.
False equivelance and I never stated that.

>You are unironically spouting racial equalist drivel though, so I'm assuming you're a commie fag.

Nigger you have shown yourself as ignorant of both history and genetics, not to mention you claim that I am wrong and a commie, with no proof.

>While proving my previous point about outward hostility, ironically. Shame, as I was going to revise the point as you saying you don't care for Vikernes.

Kek implying I care about any point you make

He's a lolbertarian trying to argue in support of Christcuckery, silly faggot

I agree with this. You are correct.

>Mean absolutely nothing

More like
>Its n-not l-like i c-cant get laid or anything, varg is just dumb!
ftfy

Judeo-Christian is an oxymoron.

Amen. It shall be so and we agree.

You are unironically trying to argue that policy changes like from a voluntary military recruitment system to conscription are proof of a massive culture change, when the basic idea of authority, traditions, and a governing body enforcing laws and some sense of justice were always prevalent no matter what. Dumb point.

It's more along the lines of, most people can get chicks pregnant, doesn't mean they'll raise those kids well.

>We know bugger all about slavic practices
There is no mention whatsoever in Slavic mythology about any form of homosexuality, and judging from how Slavs today hate it, it's not really strange to assume that they absolutely despised it in ancient times

Not an argument, paganfag. Feel free to continue following a false prophet and in so doing doom your movement to never being successful.

>We need to imagine what European paganism would have become or could have become if Christianity has not displaced it. I don't think this "muh vikings" larpy type of paganism is true to the spirit, it's just an excuse to endlessly blame Europe's problems on Christianity.

Fucking Colonials. Europe is not some Unitary Magical land where White people magically appeared to rule the world.

Europe is a continent that has been at war with it's self since humans have set foot. The only reason European powers managed to conquer the world is that when you try to genocide each other for milenias on end, you get pretty good and fighting and building. Europeans hate each other, always hated each others and stop seeing it as some sort of unit.

How? Christianity was a subsect of Judaism invented and pushed by Jews until Rome got a hold of it and drastically modified it. Even then it always has been connected to Jews through its roots, especially protestantism, which promotes the same materialistic focus and view of the world as the OT/Talmud/Jew doctrine does.

Christianity is a branch of Judaism, just because it has masculine pagan elements doesn't mean its completely different.

Christianity is the attempt to synthesize Hellenism and Judaism with the result being more Judaic than Hellenistic.

To put it metaphorically, Hellenism is the father and Judaism is the mother, Christianity is their *Daughter*, sure she might have some of her father's qualities but ultimately she is *FEMALE* which makes her closer to her mother than her father.

>This whole post.

Gypsies are truly retarded. this is what I've gathered.

HAIL APOPHIS!

>You are unironically trying to argue that policy changes like from a voluntary military recruitment system to conscription are proof of a massive culture change, when the basic idea of authority, traditions, and a governing body enforcing laws and some sense of justice were always prevalent no matter what. Dumb point.

So apparently welfare, so bad that when it was no longer provided millions in Rome starved, and the fact that you were forced into service, not to mention all the other changes like forced land redistribution, the adoption of the Emperor cult

>when the basic idea of authority, traditions, and a governing body enforcing laws and some sense of justice
Have you ever looked into the late Roman Period?
There was no governing body, the praetorian guard many times have overthrown the Emperor, multiple civil wars were fought

As for traditions they also changed many a times, the main Imperial religion also changed and that's before Christianity even came to play.

No, judeo-christian culture is what is repressing my kind from advancing in society, you are part of it you brutish bigot.

You pretend to promote paganism but all you really promote is the same kind of hate the pope does.

I never said Europe is some magical white unity land you dumb faggot

>Europe is a continent that has been at war with it's self since humans have set foo
i know, tard

M8 you are cowering behind a flag not of your own.

Do you want me to list every single war in recorded history fought between European nations to prove my point, or the many genocides?

>I never said Europe is some magical white unity land you dumb faggot
You are treating it as such, heck the two other pagan larpers are basically treating it as such. As their only counter to faggotry was Odinism.

judeo-christian culture provided the morals which allow you to persist and infest spaces like these, forcing us to tolerate your self centered existence.

Where do you think your modern laws of "tolerance" and "diversity" came from? They were derived from judeo-christian ethics.

>Have you ever looked into the late Roman Period?
>There was no governing body, the praetorian guard many times have overthrown the Emperor, multiple civil wars were fought

Correct, same exact shit can be seen in modern Italians today. Look at the fucking mob. Exact same shit. Different policies, different rules, same guiding principles. My whole argument.

My true flag is American, your focus on a bmp image proves your faggotry. Please go ahead and do so so I can waste your time, as if I don't believe Europe hasn't had conflicts.

Unironically worshipping marvel characters

>Different policies, different rules, same guiding principles. My whole argument.

Since when does citizen rule, monarchy and military dictatorship have the same guiding principles?

>only a Christian would complain about people acting like niggers