Ancaps

Ancaps,
Explain to me what happens if someone buys all the land around my private property and literally doesn't let me get out.

I guess, ancaps btfo

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You get your recreational McNuke and point it at his house, then claim the land at one of the sides of your property.

How do I get my McNuke if I'm stuck?

A privatized police force would be on that in no time. That is a clear case.

Lol you're fucked, I guess you weren't as smart as the AnCap who trapped you.

What if I don't have a contract with a private police and can't sign one since I'm stuck?

Buy the land from him, easy

Unleash your patented Zyklon-B™ And gas his property, and use private police to invade his property and annex it.

No, he would have no such right. "Freedom of movement" is a meme. He's trapped, has to make a deal with the guy or violate nap and just leave.

Do you have a phone, a walkie talkie or the internet in this hypothesis?

Trapping someone like this is a violation of the nap.

Statists,
Explain to me what happens if the (((government))) claims ownership of your house and refuses to let you leave.

You call in your private fire department that you paid $49.99 for the bronze plan, that should be enough for them to deliver the McNuke to your door.

Exiting properties must be granted a free right of access to their land. New properties must negotiate access prior to purchase yet blocking such access can be prevented in court.

It's not entrapment, you're on your property and he is on his. You simply do not have a right to enter his property without consent.

If the person who bought the land around his house did it on purpose to trap him, then that violates the NAP and he has the full authority to murder him or hire someone to murder him.

If they deny you any variation of a deal for freedom of movement they violate the nap and will be dealt with.

He has the right to deny you consent, but he has no right to proactively stop you from entering his property. In other words, shooting someone who you have banned from being on your property is perfectly alright, but shooting someone for the sole reason that they were on your property violates the NAP.

>Exiting properties must be granted a free right of access to their land
>Enforced across millions of square miles.
So like...roads?

How do you prove the person bought it to trap him?

There is property law that prevents this. You are entitled to a thoroughfare. People try to sue over it all the time, but you cannot block a person from a road by purchasing the property.

are you saying i cant do what i want with my own property and let who i choose come and go?

stepping onto my land is a violation of the NAP

Look, it's very simple, faggot OP.

The ability to 'own' private property is a function of the ability feed pathetic non property owners.

Go ahead. Study history. If you're antying but retarded, you'll soon see that I am right.

The (((government))) respects your rights an lets you leave. If they don't the (((government))) gets replaced and the people install a new government.

How do countries surrounded by other countries survive...

no ones going through the trouble of installing a new government just because youre a retard

You trapping someone completely like this is the first violation of the nap. Thus comes down the privatized police force and makes sure a deal is made or the transgressor is dealt with.

Real talk. I want to make a strategy AnCap game. What would be the major gameplay features of such a game?

Hire a private investigator

You're wrong. I have no obligation to allow anyone access to my property. You would be the one initiating violence on me. I've have not used force against you.

Reddit crypto-liberal AnCaps have to go back

You have yet to show that I have violated your property rights. By denying you access to my property.

Use your Apache to fly over it, obviously. Although I guess you'd never be able to land anywhere else, since someone or other would have claimed all the clay.

Use the helicopter,and if you didnt have own one yet,just tell the other land owner to walk around his property,if he is a white man and you are white too he wont say no

Thats why we need a racial cleaning before we create ancapistan,even if that is against the NAP

They can just as easlily refuse to respect your rights and keep you there as long as they want. Nobody is starting a revolution over every dindu on house arrest.

If I invite a friend over to my house and we have an argument, what's stopping me from killing him and have to deal with no consequences? Remember: he was in my property.

Face it ancaps, without government, your system collapses at the most basic things.

Well done.
Typically the government just kills anyone who opposes them and millions more for good measure, see North Korea and China.

>What if I don't have a contract with a private police and can't sign one since I'm stuck?

maybe the man who has been entrapped should have bought the land around him first instead of stupidly letting himself become surrounded

who is paying for this private force?

>major gameplay features of such a game?
weaseling your way out of everything by mental gymnastics arguments, and monopoly kicked into overdrive

You were stupid enough to buy land without contractually securing access so you deserve this.
Hopefully you at least bought access insurance. Your insurer will negotiate with your neighbor and if that fails send a helicopter and remunerate you by a previously agreed upon amount.

Nuclear Deterrence

Don't listen to that fag nazibro. He's a fake AnCap.

>Face it ancaps, without government, your system collapses at the most basic things.

Somehow if an ancap doesn't have ALL the answers for your dipshit questions, then all ancap free market principles get thrown out. LOL what a bunch of simple minds!

You all want central planning. You can't live without it cuz you are beta cucks who can't stand up for yourselves or live virtuous lives without someone telling them how to do it.

Go fuck yourselves. Why do you think there are "special" people who have all the answers? We have that now, it's called State power. You anti ancap fags love the State, just like the religious zealots love their Popes and priests, and blah, blah, blah...

You're doomed to a life of being told what to do, who to pay, and how much to pay them. Your "tell" is that you cannot imagine living free and being honest, hard working, and non-aggressive.

>oh shit I can't enter his private airspace

The private space ends at 500 feets

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_flight_rules

Ancaps reject the ad coelum doctrine. You must homestead the airspace.

Then did you something to piss off a rich person at which point you'd be BTFO in any economic situation.

heres a twist

what if you had your property surrounded but were allowed thoroughfare at first, but then the owner of the land around you withdraws his consent to you stepping foot on his property?

Place a personal item in the area they plan on buying. Once they seize the land they are also seizing your property, thus violating the NAP. You can then respond with as much force as you deem necessary

Your ideology has been compromised by the same,even other races are more able to support it than whites.

Also 56%

The fuck are you implying? You know you're talking to an AnCap right?

Buying it implies somebody owned the land before him, so you're already trapped to begin with. Why did you buy that land?

>nazibro
>B-but user,I-im an ancap

Yeah sure you fucking socialist scum

he would get shot for tresspassing to place his item there

I would kill them.
Hunt you down and tear you limb from limb.
Nothing shall remain
Not your memory or name.
It will be as though they never even lived.

so what difference does it make? all you would have to do is claim you banned him.

>AnCaps can't read
What a surprise.

Hi leftypol

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how can an IED be someones private property ? Like someone who lives in a a giant bomb or something ?

I'm here trying to spread the good word of property rights, and these fags spread their bullshit Stony reddit interpretations of non-aggression. I will not tolerate fake AnCaps, and that one was without a doubt full of shit.

Are you suggesting dishonesty, user?

ah don't you worry about it goyim, we at JetPack™ Co. have got all your needs sorted, that'll be one million shekels

But OP is in Portugal. Basically the same as Africa when it comes to property law.

>implying different persons can't own different parts of the land

>ancap
>roads
pick one

... What?

Made you look.

He's implying that your an uncivilised dindu incapable of respecting property rights.

He can deny him access to your property, but you can't deny him access to everything outside; you have to leave him some kind of passage.

You attempt to negotiate to leave. If they persist, they have violated the NAP, and you may rightly shoot them and claim their property.

Practically speaking, this wouldn't happen often, and the community wouldn't stand for it when it did. Think about the media circus that would descend on any rich person who trapped a poor household into their home by such means. Even without the badass shoot-them-and-take-their-stuff resolution, it doesn't take much of a telltale heart for this property trapping scenario to be impossible in Ancapistan.

Have a (You) on me

...Jesus fucking Christ I should get some sleep.
He can deny you access to his terrain, but he can't deny you access to everything else; if he tried to do so by buying land around you, he'd legally trap you and he should leave you some kind of passage.

Just build a bridge over the other persons land. As long as it's not touching his land what can he do to stop you?

This already happens in the United States. Usually, they'll offer you an easement to be able to access your property in exchange for a monetary fee. If they're trying to make you leave, you also have the option of moving out and selling the house at market, or if they're trying to get you to move out for a reason, they'll probably be willing to pay above market. If the guy is really just completely trying to be an asshole for the sake of being an asshole, then it's a violation of the NAP because he is taking the value of the property with access rights less the value of the property solely, and access rights are definitionally part of private property because you need a way to demarcate the borders, which are access points. Since he violated the NAP, you have a right to make a claim, because for gods sake we're not immediately going to resort to nukes for minor property disputes. You can still have a jury of peers and a court system created through binding convenants/contracts between parties for their own insurance & protection purposes. The key difference being it's voluntary and the ultimate sovereignty is concentrated in the property-owning individual.

"Everything else" is also private property. If "everybody else" welcomes you then you are always access. However this does not imply that you may use his property as your path, even if it is the only path.

You do not have a right to anyone's property but your own. That's that. As an AnCap I believe in ABSOLUTE property rights.

*Allowed access

Might I add that this is a retarded scenario, and that the guy around you would probably make a deal with you. But he is not obligated to do so.

Who says?

>they have violated the NAP

So?
There is nothing except the individual to enforce this.
Everything else is coercion.

The concept is hollow.

like this?

>if someone buys all the land around my private property and literally doesn't let me get out.
He wasted a ton of money being a dick. However if he doesn't let you get out he is causing you harm, and potentially lethal harm at that, which breaks the NAP.

You need to have the right to access his air and radio space to send messages via cellphone or radio.

>However if he doesn't let you get out he is causing you harm, and potentially lethal harm at that, which breaks the NAP.
Wait, so refusing to lower the price on some food to a starving person breaks the NAP?

He's a fake AnCap. Don't listen to that kike.

The nap is not law, it's ethics for when you should use violence.

Arguably he could charge a toll though, for safe passage across his property.

You kill him. Is it that hard ?

>expecting people to follow ethics when there is no penalty for not doing so
kek

We expect people to murder people who steal and murder without being made to do so by some external force. Yes.

>We expect people to murder people who steal
OK, how are you going to do that? Are you at home all the time to prevent theft? What's to stop others from ganging up on you? What if your definition of NAP is different from others, as is the case in this thread? What then?

I can't guarantee your safety like your fuhrer swears he can. It's simply an ethical statement.

As for who defends your property, you will either be able to defend it or it will be taken from you. Also the idea that without the state everyone will own land property is beyond ridiculous. You'll most likely live on someone else land. Only the strong will prosper. AnCap is the natural state of humanity, always was always will be.

>Only the strong will prosper
AnCaps will die out then, and then some form of government will be made. A group is stronger than an individual, dumbfuck. You're setting yourself up to fail.

Trespassing is not a crime.

Private property rights + freedom of movement.

>Implying you wouldn't be moral without being made to do so.

>slavery
>pedophiles
>gays
Do these sound moral to you?

Like I said, the rogue individual property owner is a meme. Monarchies and fascist states will be and are a thing.

There's no such abstract "freedom of movement" I do not have "freedom of moving my fist into your face really fast"

The ridiculous concept is a violation of property rights.

Fake AnCaps are a detriment the moment without exception.

Buy an helicopter and get out. I doubt that road companies would sell their land in the first place.

>Implying (you) would have gay child slaves

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