2 years later the milk price drops and the EU is awash with milk. EU buys up milk in desperate move to keep EU milk prices at a somewhat sustainable level for farmers - EU drowns in milk powder that no one wants.
Why do we hate the free market when it comes to agribusiness? Why do we support farmers with 50 billion in agribusiness subsidies and open market milk purchases to keep prices high?
>Why do we hate the free market when it comes to agribusiness?
Because people will bash in the politician's skulls if they go hungry.
This is what happens when government interferes with bussiness. First they start with a misguided attempt to "save" farmers from going broke. This results in an unecessary amount of framers. Next they try to fix their mistakes. Now 10x as many broke farmers as there would have been without government intervention.
Farmers are literally rural and suburban retards. The problem is that we rely on them for our food, so we can't just let them fuck everyone else over because of their stupidity.
They need to have their hands held and told what to do.
>The problem is that we rely on them for our food, so we can't just let them fuck everyone else over because of their stupidity.
We city folk should find a way to not need farmers, that way we can convert the rural regions into cities.
>Why do we hate the free market when it comes to agribusiness?
The french can't compete in a free market setting
You don't want to be dependent on other countries when it comes to fundamental products likes food. We live in a time of food overproduction, this could change and then we are fucked.
Well, you could just stop eating, you know.
How much is a gallon of milk in the EU compared to burger prices?
>Legalize weed in EU
>Potheads will eat those powder milk like candy may be even snort it
Everyone is happy
Stupid commies don't know how freemarket works.
Have you considered that instead of giving the EU your milk powder, you can sell it to the Chinese for $5 per cup's worth?
>t. Banana Republic run by milk cartel
2.27€ where I live, so roughly similar to burgermilk
It's about twice as expensive, although if you're really going for the garbage stuff i assume the prices are equivalent.
>let free market do its thing
>buy cheap food from some shithole country
>domestic farmers go out of business
>war/drought/trade sanctions/whatever in shithole country
>no food since your domestic farmers are all gone
That's why.
Well this is what happens when you start to meddle with the free market with regulations. It fucks up with the supply/demand equilibrium
>EU
>not learning the lessons of the 91 wool crash experienced by Australia.
Stupid fucking Socialists.
roughly 80/90 cents per liter here
Gosh I pay 2/3 more for a gallon up here
>Anyone in the world remembering anything that happened in Australia
Scaled up to a gallon, it'd cost around 2.5 usd here so almost the same
And that's why we need to remind them
It's weird to think that only the argument of authoritarian right vs libertarian right is relevant in modern times
The entire left is filled with fucktards that honestly believe that without their laws we wouldn't have ever improved work conditions by choice
We must secure the existence of our cows and a future for white milk.
>drinking milk passed the age of 24 months
wew
How is that tractor dispensing the powder like that?
Its not that you can't have regulation but Socialists are just a whole different creature altogether.
>being a lactose intolerant subhuman
nigger
No idea.
We end up with so much corn that they turn it into liquid sugar and pump everything else full of it.Which in turn kills 3 million people per year via diabetes and other health events secondary to obesity.
Also, HFCS is literally cancer fuel. It's the most bio-available energy to cancer. Overpayed farmers making too much corn triggers me
Hey nice rare!
good one, horse nigger.
Not really, europe subsidizes farming. No third world country can really compete with European prices. Africans are eating European chicken, because it's cheaper than native chicken. And this goes for alot more produce.
Socialism is a nice idea for small communities or tiny nations perhaps where the ideas wouldn't launch everyone into poverty, same with left libertarianism, might be cool for a small group on some island somewhere
Eating a fuckload of sugar and starch is a choice, especially with all the health culture that has been prevalent in the past decade. If you're getting diabetes from your diet it's because you're poor, uncultured and stupid.
fpbp
Really? How much does a bag of milk go for?
Yes, because
>europe subsidizes farming
and there's huge taxes on importing produce
Independence from foreign edibles is a matter of national security IMO. A trade embargo can be as lethal as a barrage of nukes, or even more.
because (with notable exception Romania and other small scale manufacturers spread throughout EU) most milk is "made" in a factory.
By that I mean trhe cows are fixed in position fed whatever shit is cheapest and then milk is collected. Here most large farm still regularly pasture their cows feed them grass alfalfa and other stuff and small time farmers sell their milk to processing plants(at very low prices) and increasingly on the open market directly to consumers as dairy and raw milk.(expect a crackdown on that probably oy vey goy it's dangerous).
It's why most milk tastes like chalk,it's literally white instead of having a slight hue to it bc of the micronutrients in the grass(it's where the term milky white came from only goat milk is pure white afaik)
It didn't used to be like this,esp in the former Ostblock practices where similar to that of Romania's although not as extensive.
I figured shit was going down when I say on Lidl refrigerated(not uht) milk that used to be made here sourced from Hungary and Poland ,respectively.
Now I live near the Black Sea,and this milk was the cheapest I've seen anywhere it wouldn't make sense financially . They still had Romanian milk in bottles at like 3 eurocents more
tldr:it's a quality not a quantity issue,the subsidies and gerneral corporatism pushed manufacturers for volume production and destroyed small scale manuf throughout Europe
> (OP)
>Farmers are literally rural and suburban retards. The problem is that we rely on them for our food, so we can't just let them fuck everyone else over because of their stupidity.
On the contrary, they're having this problem because there are to many of them producing too much.
Farms run themselves nowadays, just have to sit in your tractor a few times a year with a cup of tea and a magazine or listen to the radio while your machinery works by itself.
It would be a problem with public healthcare, with private it just culls the stupid and weak who can't control themselvs. I have a strong feeling the highest reate of obesity is amongst niggers and mestizos, the lowest amongst whites/asians
>expecting euro niggers to know anything about anything
if you ask a drooling retard something and get spittle all over you don't act suprisied!
And they do that cause the EU is giving them money and incentive for it
pretty much the '89 revolutions in Eastern Europe
£1 at my local shop.
Most people of any country are in fact; poor, uncultured, and stupid. That doesn't make it ok for the government to subsidize liquid garbage being pumped into the food supply.
Well in a way it's a form of eugenics, just like abortion. I would guess both of those keep down your nig population
>gallon
depends if you're going for the skimmed jew or full fat,about the same for the skimmed,a bit more for full fat
give every shitskin a sack of powdered milk and send them packing back to shitskin nation
I'm a farmer. I have to imagine it's because you pretty much have to be born into it too do it. The machinery costs are a half million dollars per machine. The land cost is huge. The work is seasonal. We can't just decide to not pay our bills anymore and grow less. The grain prices are pretty much what they were in the 70s, all of our input costs have went up about 500 percent since then. We also don't use illegals and 3 of us do 4000 acres. So it's not like we have this gigantic swarm of People. We try to be as cost effective as humanly possible.
>I made a poor investment and I will keep bullying you until you bail me out
I hate this kind of people os much
What if ((())) are trying to breed out cancer by pumping everything with cancer agents and using us as ginnypigs. Won't be the first time they use the public as test rats.
farmers are the most fucking entitled cunts on the fucking planet, the just hop around from crop to crop or product to product year by year depending on what they think will make them the most money, all the fucking refits and equipment is paid for with grants and subsidies and tax breaks, and then the price drops because of over-production, they blame the people giving them the free money and then start blocking roads and supermarkets with tractors and being total fucking shitcunts and inconveniencing normal people.
I can't wait for the day when everything is grown and harvested hydroponically by robots and all these farmers find out what it's like not to be paid well above market rates for their products or just be handed £500k to start farming the latest fad crop.
>We live in a time of food overproduction, this could change and then we are fucked.
And that is why? Because it would take years to get the know how back to plow a few fields more?
Be realistic man. It is all just retarded politics with politicians trying to keep the farmers' vote (they all vote conservative).
Day of the scythe when?
>Have you considered that instead of giving the EU your milk powder, you can sell it to the Chinese for $5 per cup's worth?
>>t. Banana Republic run by milk cartel
Google it, this is exactly what the EU thought it could do. Turns out the Chinese market isn't as big as they thought (95 percent of the Chinese are lactointolerant).
this is true desu.
New members of EU had superior quality food production after some investments a decade ago, but frogs and krauts wanted to have a cookie and eat a cookie. Old EU members are ahead in terms of advanced, high tech products, and the limits in food production were introduced because Poland, Czechs and other counties that joined later were actually BTFO'ing old states agriculture. Less supply means higher prices, so lazy Pierre and Hans can still sell thier products while Paweł, Bogomil or Tomáš has to limit their production because of (((reasons)))
Well it sure would have been (((conventient))) if Russia had relied on cheap imports instead of having independent agriculture.
Too many people making powdered milk.
>unregulated (real) capitalism
>some businesses are not viable
WOW IT'S EXACTLY AS EXPECTED.
Wow, who would have known that different races have different strenghts and weaknesess. Certainly not the EU.
Also we get virtually no Government assistance, different areas grow different crops because of certain weather and growth seasons. I always hear about muh government and farmers but I assume that has to do with corn which is grown in the south.
>powdered milk
What the fuck is this? Holy shit you Soviets are tucked up
They are spraying the powder with a hose on gov buildings to send a message of "we will waste food in political protest unless you will give us more gibs".
I hate milk farmers, bunch of retards.
Who else is going to give them strong bones
In the us you buy your own equipment. There's no government program.
>bagged milk
How do you even make milk into powder? Do you put water in it? Euros actually disgust me
Little pot, stop!
fair point
>how do you make powder
>do you add water?
fucking hell I hate you "people"
That's not a gallon, that's a US gallon aka a fake gallon! You're getting ripped off Yankee Doodle
Here in Europe farmers get paid 3/4s of their income through gov subsidies. Not even kidding. Here in Austria every small farmer drives a Mercedes. A dude wants told me the milk price is irrelevant for him, he gets his money per cos from the gov. He couldn't care less about how the cows are doing.
There are farmers who do not focus on animals but on crops and if they go "organic" they even end up being decent people who get little in terms of gov assistencd, but there are few of those idealists.
There is literally NO difference from drinking milk in a bag or a plastic jug, I drink it from a cardboard jug usually it tastes better than plastic I think but glass bottles are superior
Well how the fuck do you drink powder? I've never heard of this before
What would happen if a country has no more agricultural/primary sector? You import all your food and water from abroad. Do you think that's a good idea?
EU was a mistake.
Urban/rooftop farming can reduce the need for farms. It also makes the roofs of scyscrapers look nice
>2% reduced fat
>milk
kys faggot go whole or go home
depends on the supermarkets
in belgium +/-0.95eurocent/L
belgian farmers get between 0.09 and 0.12 /L
non belgian milk is +/- 10 cents cheaper.
i buy my milk directly from a farmer i know and i'm happy to pay 50 cents/L for it
>Well how the fuck do you drink powder? I've never heard of this before
Yes, you put water in it to hydrate it, you REMOVE the water to powder it.
You should have some powdered milk stored away for the day of the rope.
How do you put a garden on this?
Don't Leafs have processed food? Milk chocolate? Muesli with chocolate? Caucau? Processed precooked meals?
All this shit is done with mill powder, no big processed food business uses real milk. They use the powder and add water back. Handling live milk is much harder to do.
>it's another 'government tried to plan resources' episode
oh boy I love those!
It sounds disgusting Euro niggers actually make me sick
They eat deer eye balls and horse heads
Same here. Heard stories of families that the parents don't work just drink and lazy off, 5 kids each with all the shit they want. They live off subsidies of the farmland and/or the forest land they have. So basically everyone is funding their life via taxes. Fuck communism
Go suck a dog.
Most true statement in this thread
> milk powder that no one wants.
Nobody wants it because it tastes like shit.
I only drink high quality milk and it is still so cheap at 1,68 euro per litre (price in Rome).
MAYBE THESE FUCKING IDIOTS START SELLING PROTEIN POWDER WITH 50% CHEAPER PRICE BECAUSE CURRENTLY 2 KILOS OF IT COSTS FUCKING 50 EUROS HERE
2 KILOS OF WHEY
50 EUROS
HERE
CHEAP?
COLLAPSING?
FUCKING CRYPTOKIKE FARMERS
>bring in thousands of niggers
>milk sales go down
Its almost like I would have never seen this coming.
Do what norway did!
>Subsidized milk production
>Problematic surplus of milk
>Make shittons of cheese
>Problematic surplus of cheese
>Let's turn our cheese into a worldwide trademark
>Can't compete with any cheesemaker in the entire world
>More subsidies = competitive price
>Still fails
SOCIALISM WORKS YOU GUISE
Because the EU doesn't export shit.
you attach the garden to a plane, then you wait
Protein powder and this are two different things.
Your roid powder is made by the farma jews
Can you not use communist units?
Tell it in gallons and Dollar or pound Sterling
That's an old building tho. The buildings on the right and left of that one have flat roofs which makes them suitable for rooftop farms. Of course it's impossible to do it on all roofs, you need a flat roof.
Whey is a by-product of milk production.
We and the canucks also do this for some things.
Everyone's protectionist with agriculture somewhat
Socialism is retarded, Europe is degenerating backwards they're becoming atheist and DEINDUSTRIALISING!
It used to be European factories that made the worlds goods, now the colonies are taking over, it's disgusting
indeed, buy full milk, you don't want to know what they do to it to make it lesser fatty and normal untinkered milk is fuller and better taste anyway
>in belgium +/-0.95eurocent/L
ranges from 0.89 up to 1.36
that's for half full milk 50% fat?
normal milk is somewhat 10 cents more expencive... i wonder why.. i asked around at farmers i know and they couldn't tell me either
maybe demand?
maybe because chemicaly altered watered down milk is cheaper? who knows what they don't tell us what they do with it before botteling it
Modern buildings should all be torn down, they're a disgusting blight on the city and have ruined the image of every single municipality that exists and this is a fact. If I were prime minister I would ban the construction of any modern architecture and tear them down.