This is exactly what we schould be striving for

A highly militant, exclusionary, technocratic meritocracy built around the ideas of radical traditionalism. A society hell-bent on expansion and the preservation of one's own kind and culture, at the detriment of all others'… this is the only natural, sane response to a world filled with subhuman filth and untermensch whose only goal in life is the extermination of everything just and pure.

We tried to give the Other its chancel we bent over backwards accommodating them; we shared our technology, our art, our literature, our accomplishments; we educated them, fed them, allowed entire broods of them to settle in our ancestral lands; we humbled ourselves; apologizing for imaginary slights and grovelling at their feet for the perceived transgressions of taming this planet and bringing the torch of civilization to the world… And for what? All our efforts are rewarded with scorn, hatred, jealousy, and outright malevolence.

We need a new system.

Something more noble than the petty mercantile aspirations of Semites.

Something greater than the slave-like morality imposed upon us by alien religions.

A society built on unshakable, indelible foundations, woven from our own racial stock and governed by the guiding light of Apotheosis; that driving, all-consuming framework of beliefs that the White man is his own god, that he IS god; the keeper of his own destiny, noble by birth, master by choice, tyrant by necessity, and ruler by right!

We tamed this world once, and we can do it again.

But first, we must burn the heretic, kill the mutant, and purge the unclean.

And then, when we've freed ourselves of weakness, remose, and guilt, when the last subhuman has been cleansed from Terra and the last trace of their existence purged from this planet, we'll ascend to the stars and make them our own.

And the galaxy will tremble.

This is our destiny.

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It's somewhat appealing even without the aliens.
But with xenos threats and chaos, it becomes absolutely necessary.

ur a retarded idiot.

all we need is eutelegenisis, which is sperm donation eugenics, and we'll be fine.

Scrap that expansion shit you dirty socialist.

Agreed. Patience, it's coming brothers.

Eye "C"

If /tg/ stops by, please no bulli.

bump

>Nazi flag
I dunno about you guys anymore. I keep seeing civic nationalist-tier shit coming from you guys on the race question. Especially when it comes to non-whites that have similar systems to National Socialism. Just replace "muh constitution" with "muh national socialist ideals" and we have what I see from National Socialists on Sup Forums and TRS.

And they say Nazis can't be left-wing!

If only we could easily get rid of the subhuman filth, I guess this comes to mind.
youtube.com/watch?v=ubNqUyf0op0

Racial survival is the most important issue.
Eugenics is the second most important.

...

The Imperium is not a meritocracy. At all.

I agree completely. Why do I see National Socialists straying from this more and more into solidarity with subhuman apes that have vaguely similar governmental systems? It's fucking disgusting and drove me away from the movement really hard. I came in as a white nationalist and I left as a white nationalist. Hell, look at Richard Spencer's twitter. He has a long history of Nazbol and Duginist warning flags being raised. And what do we see now? His name has the single finger raised like a Muslim and his latest tweet has him giving the Nazbol salute. The Sup Forums and TRS National Socialists have been rocketing away from National Socialism towards Eurasian-centric National Bolshevism. I'll be back into National Socialism when you guys fix your shit and purge those that distract from saving the White race and those that co-opt National Socialism in an attempt to remove white nationalism and turn it into a leftist Nazbol ideology.

If there are no elected officials aside from the occasional planetary governor, then how are people put into positions? Meritocracy you retard.

holy fucking cringe what kind of virglord would actually write something as permanently BEDROOMED as this shit?

>commie can't suffer anyone disagreeing with his broken system

We get it, it's basically the opposite of you cultureless jobless savages.

Eldar are better though and more traditional desu

Where do I sign up?

But my decade or more of state conditioning is telling me to take big cocks up my ass. What do?

>the commie says holy fucking cringe
Oh the irony

We have to first round them up and exterminate all those who stand against our new society to have a clean slate while we impose the new rule across the earth as we stand united under one Trump!

yep 'Manifest Destiny' was all about sharing, bending over etc in your 12yr olds fantasy. pls go fuck yourself fucktard.

This is the way it was meant to be. You stated it perfectly. The Empire doesn't need a god.

no, it's a trap. THEY are just going to ser up another right wing tyrant that gets a lot of people killed, in popular response to a leftism allowed to go rampant.

it's been done to us before countless times, read history, stop falling for this trap. not again

do something else, something less edgy and violent.

NATSOC is a product of leftypol, wrong website goober. Lurk for 2 years before you post again or at minimum take it to layer two.

>meritocracy

>larping this hard

Bump! Space Marines will soon be a thing, remember that.

Go back to your beating off to japanese cartoons, billly.

why are you cucks so obsessed with "traditionalism"

why are you degenerates so obsessed with "progress"

Daily reminder that in the lore the Emperor did not want to be considered a god. The Horus heresy event fucked up his plans for the perfect empire to exist after him. Mankind was supposed to be the ultimate rulers.

the LARPing you guys got going on in your petty, socially irrelevant heads is nice and all, but by all means leave it to us. America was once a great nation and shall rise from the ashes once more, permanently putting an end to the likes of you.

Because GOLDEN AGE!
And PURITY OF ESSENCE!
And I would be strong if I was alive in the iron age and not so damn lazy and unmotivated and these cartoons won't watch themselves and then I have to play nuh games and traditionalism would solve these problems for me!
And and and!
I bet I know who's behind THIS post right guys!
...Why am I so lonely?

The Empire is shit, what are you talking about? Emperor pretty much started all their problems. There is literally only one species worth being, and That's Orkz. They are literally the only species that knows any joy at all. Everyone else in the universe suffers, but the Orkz are smart enough to make choices, and too dumb to understand consequences. Any pain they feel is immediately made irrelevant either by finding more chaos and violence or by being dead. Orkz is da bestest.

One's tradition is another's progress, or do think there exist traditions that stretch back to time immemorial? Rational traditionalism examines traditions and studies whether they have worth. Radical traditionalism and radical progressivism are just two sides of the same fallacy that assumes the age of an idea is enough to define it's worth.

progress = changing things to be more efficient for more people involved, cutting out needless shit, improving our society actively

your turn :-)
yeah I mean its quite a huge step just to intellectualize one's virginity and failure to pass down genetics

wtf I love orks now

>kill the mutant

We're not all bad.

Progress for its own sake will lead to each generation attempting to entirely reinvent society. This will not lead to greater efficiency. It will lead to wasted time, mental energy, and effort. People will die who would otherwise contribute to productivity.

sorry buddy, the question was why are you so obsessed with traditionalism

but lol at "progress for its own sake" as if traditionalism for its own sake is not entirely worse (>b-but I'm s-scared of change )

Who ever implied that fascists were for traditionalism for its own sake?
Talk to Varg or some faggoty tradcon.

Is that so, though? Is fascism now only 'using' traditionalism whereas there are far more beneficial utilitarian approaches it could've undertook?

again you fail to answer the question, its almost as if you dont have any good reason to support traditionalism, what a surprise!

Are you not aware that realpolitik and pragmatism were the method of 20th century nationalism—especially of Fascism?
They differed from the Allies only inasmuch as they were willing to sacrifice everything except their volk.

Fake republican. Slide.

>mfw I'm half Semite

What is traditionalism? It's everything that's been built up and lasted through the degradation of time. It lasted for a reason. I'm not going to shotgun every single traditional facet of society worth building, mostly because you're the one who has to tell us why it isn't worth it.

What's wrong with traditionalism?

Call da boyz. Dis is an Ork thread now.

I support traditionalism because it is wasteful to spend cultural capital to change something which doesn't need to be changed.
Traditionalism must be the default for the sake of efficiency, even if we aren't concerned with racial preservation. If we do care about race, then tradition is even more important.
However, traditionalism does not prevent us from changing the social order when it is required.

The flag you've chosen is extremely ironic.

Nice trips

YOU WILL BE A SLAVE TO MY ALIEN RELIGION! SHOLVA!

>pragmatism
>not realizing homosexuality was a self-solving problem and many perfectly qualified men of sound mind and with great strategical merit were thrown in a ditch

Fascism was anything but fucking pragmatic my dude, they were a bunch of dogmatic imbeciles; while at the same time lacking the sturdiness and honour of an individual with principles and integrity.

Look up order of nine angles. The imperium is based off them. I'll say no more.

They're put into position because 9/10 people are born into their positions.

Your parents worked their lives away without ever leaving a records building on Terra? Well, that's what you'll be doing!

The entire theme of the Imperium is huge, bureaucratic decay. It's not something you want to emulate.

Da boyz always win. Either they win the fight so they win, or they run away and come back for anuvva go, so they get two fights which is a win!

Plus any species that has a character that goes back in time to kill himself in order to get another copy of his favorite gun is pretty awesome.

I'm absolutely down for this idea, but where is this going to happen?

Seriously, you need a place for all of this to occur.

Name one Imperium official that took a position through hereditary affiliation.

Secondly, you never said by which merits you wish to promote. If you believe in eugenics, then monarchy's aren't bad. Obviously those that interbred fucked themselves.

Thirdly, the Imperium is ironic. They took a left wing view of traditionalism and parochial society and cast it in the worst light possible- but it survives and it makes sense that it survives by being exclusionary and principled. Could a society based on leftwing principles survive in that environment? Not for more than a minute. The further left you go, the more self destructive the ideology gets. Another irony is that the decay that warhammer tried to establish actually created a sense of stability. Of course, regressives see stability and consistency as decay, and only value a sense of momentum based on change. Change is not always positive, and it generates risk, which is why a society bases itself that way will wreck itself the faster it tries to "progress".

If you want historical examples, I'll hold your hand.

If you knew anything about symbology you'd know who runs the company and whether they are being ironic or not.

Eldar are literally a race of roasties trying to settle down after riding the Slaanesh carousel.

>Name one Imperium official that took a position through hereditary affiliation.

Uhh, most of the planets in the Imperium are run by noble houses? People born into the lower levels of Hive Cities live their entire lives within the same few cubic kilometers. Much of the Administratum is run by hereditary positions (See: wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Administratum)

> They took a left wing view of traditionalism and parochial society and cast it in the worst light possible

No, they didn't. The whole universe is based on the theme that idealism is stupid and even a "god" can't make humanity get things right. That and there are the obvious comparisons between the Catholic Church and the Imperium's religion, too.

>Could a society based on leftwing principles survive in that environment?

Except you know, the Tau.

In conclusion, go make yourself into a servitor, heretic.

You still haven't described why it would be bad, even if that were the case. No examples, no arguments, no established basis for the assumption of election based superiority...?

Good luck surviving in a hive city more than a week.

Chaos is far more meritocratic ironically enough, and I don't even like chaos. The Imperium is a bloody autocracy with underlying spheres of aristocrats who are born into power, with the exception of Space Marines (the only semi-meritocratic wing of the Imperium) - who in essence, hold no real power with the exception of Chapter Masters and Primarchs.

we will build our base under the Himalayas mountain range

The eldar, who destroyed themselves in their degeneracy, fractured space and birthed Slaanesh, and who are dying out over time because they can't be arsed to propogate their species?

>wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Administratum

It literally say bureaucracy. Bureaucracies are not necessarily hereditary(most aren't), but can be. Take the Roman Imperium, the namesake, for example. Coming from a wealthy or upper class clan helps, and in some instances is required to be a patrician, but there is still an elective process. The Imperium is mixed, and if you read about the planetary governments, you find that it's explicitly stated that each planet is different. It's called the Imperium because it's feudal. All planets are governed by the high lords and the administratum. Interplay between localities and the administratum isn't ever made clear, at least not in any of the books I've read. It's clear there's overlap and a multiplicity of government types, but the overall Imperium is not solely dynastic.

Also, you failed to name a single person.

>"cast it in the worst light possible"
>"No, they didn't"
I'm listening.
>"The whole universe is based on the theme that idealism is stupid and even a "god" can't make humanity get things right."

Are you autistic?

>"That and there are the obvious comparisons between the Catholic Church and the Imperium's religion, too."

Hymns, architecture, community, rites, etc. You're a leftie and you're not even self aware.

>"Except you know, the Tau."
>Except you know, the smallest weakest faction in the 40k universe

Fixed that for you.

>"go make yourself into a servitor, heretic."

I want to like this, but it doesn't make any damn sense. You should have gone with a chaos saying but you mixed up our positions, 1/10

One day...

But not in our lifetime....

We need an Age of Strife

It literally says "Many Administratum positions are hereditary; parents pass on their ranks and positions to their children, who continue the work that had occupied the lives of their ancestors."

You dumb.

>Hymns, architecture, community, rites, etc. You're a leftie and you're not even self aware.

Those are the superficial comparisons. I was mainly pointing towards the general corruptness of the institution and how far it has come from its origins.

>I want to like this, but it doesn't make any damn sense. You should have gone with a chaos saying but you mixed up our positions, 1/10

You're a retard, so, being a servitor is all you are good for.

youtube.com/watch?v=qg1MrCyCmNU

I approve
Humanity as a species should conquer the stars,united as one.
Sadly we are a few millennia early,this pisses me off greatly.

Watch the newfags and shills autistically screeching.

>It literally say bureaucracy
>trusting wikias which purely provide the narrator's opinion and tl;dr versions rather than in-depth views you'd get from reading novels set in the universe

>goes back in time to kill himself in order to get another copy of his favorite gun

Sounds like something I'd do.

>You dumb.

I already said that it does? Holy fuck, you really are retarded aren't you?

My argument is that the imperium is not solely or even 9/10's reliant on hereditary caste. Many are, many aren't. That's just the administratum, not even the rest of the Imperial state structure like the Ecclesiarchy or the local government systems.

>"I was mainly pointing towards the general corruptness of the institution and how far it has come from its origins"

I'm going to guess you're an atheist? Is that right? Maybe somedays you feel a little agnostic? The Church certainly has fallen, but not because of what you describe.

>"You're a retard, so, being a servitor is all you are good for."

Your joke was shitty. It made no sense. That was all.

We should start somewhere

>The Church certainly has fallen, but not because of what you describe.
Implying protestants weren't the saving grace of the church that didn't blow additional life into the corrupt shit-hole. Fundamentalism is the one way to run a religion, the church belonged almost wholly to Catholicism; which did anything but run it as a fundamentalist would.

sidenote: modern american christians are as far from protestants as protestants were from catholics back in the days

>"trusting wikias which purely provide the narrator's opinion and tl;dr versions rather than in-depth views you'd get from reading novels set in the universe"
>"rather than in-depth views you'd get from reading novels set in the universe"
>"reading novels"

I get what you're saying, that's why I said:
>"at least not in any of the books I've read"

I mean, you're right, but that's why I said what I said.

I got that, but I'm a cheeky ass autist who gets buttmad whenever people solely trust wikias over actual books and other, more formidable material set in the universe. So I just felt obliged to shit on wikias.

who said I thought it was bad?

You cant make good men out of niggers and other darkies. Rhodesia was the best place for Africans, where they were treated as equals, and yet they still turned on the white man and fucked everything up. In high school we had niggers forcibly assigned to our group projects. They never did any work and would get violent and angry when you expected anything of them, even showing up was optional for them. When I got sick and couldn't do the work they came my house and dragged me from bed while my fever was in the high 100's because they needed me to get them that passing grade.

I'm sick of the PC lies, and those who espouse them. W need to get rid of liberals and niggers, because they are a ruinous bunch.

I'm a Baptist looking at the massive number of pedo's in the Catholic church and wondering how it can be fixed.

The truth is, the birthplaces and expansion of protestantism does NOT last as long as catholicism does. Germanic countries where protestants were strong have now dwindled, like Germany now being a catholic stronghold again. Catholicism has staying power. It has to be fixed and uncucked for Christianity to survive. Protestantism is only holding out in America basically.

heh, you're a bro aren't you? Frankly, I didn't understand what you meant by the head of the company not being ironic. I thought they were. I don't know them on a personal level, or about them personally.

>"In high school..."

Same for me in college. It's all bullshit.

WE WUZ SPACE MARINES N SHIET

Hell yeah!

Ohh lmao I understand