Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.
What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need. >Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need." >To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said. marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD >Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD >To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people. gommies.gom/fug/ gommies.gom/starve/
----------------------------------------- Da sdages of gommunism.
>Sdage one Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.
>Sdade two Withering All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.
>Sdage three Gommunism. No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.
Ryder Robinson
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Carson Sanchez
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Joseph Perry
Speaking of the 2008 crisis, USA didn't fix it for shit, and is doing the same exact thing with student loans.
Eli Rodriguez
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Benjamin Reed
gommunism = benis XDDDD
Christian Ramirez
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Carter White
pic is you, faggot.
Owen Adams
here's a quick summary of communism
the 2008 colmapse was mainly caused by government intervention into the housing and financia markets
Jack Cox
You forgot your meme flag at first
Alexander Cox
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Parker Edwards
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Angel Cook
Yes. By deregulating it. :^)
>GDP meme bottom lel
John Morris
Im reporting this general. Its just a raid, you post your memes and no one reads them. Its board disruption to propagandize and brainwash a community that you are hostile to. Fuck off.
Sage, hide and REPORT
Isaiah James
reminder to all reddit refugees: type "sage" in the Options bar to prevent your post from bumping this thread
Jack Reyes
For reasons I can't open threads on my browser so I opened the thread on IE where for reasons I can't change my flag.
Sebastian Mitchell
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD >Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD >To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people. gommies.gom/fug/ gommies.gom/starve/
----------------------------------------- Da sdages of gommunism.
>Sdage one Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.
>Sdade two Withering All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.
>Sdage three Gommunism. No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis..
Austin Hill
sage
here ya go commies
Jack Davis
We drew that.
Adrian Roberts
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James Hill
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Samuel Brown
>be NEET without any qualifications, education or job experience >let me tell you about the struggles of the working class
Nicholas Gray
1/2
no. I'm referring to the Bush "houses for everyone" policies, and Freddie/Fannie May/Mac, which essentially forced banks to give loans to people who they would otherwise deny (because they would be unable to pay it off). You are defending government-enforced debt slavery and financial risk by asserting "deregulation" caused the financial crisis.
Henry Wood
upgrading gommie pic. these guys are fully autistic.
Michael Torres
2/2 hmmmm.....
Hudson Evans
>germany huh. figures.
Charles Jackson
>GDP meme lmao commies say GDP (PPP) is a meme because it's the clearest measurement for productive output, and communism lowers that.
Sebastian Robinson
Leftist arguments are so weak it's hard to believe people actually fall for it.
Ayden Allen
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD >Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD >To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people. gommies.gom/fug/ gommies.gom/starve/
>Sdage one Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.
>Sdade two Withering All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.
>Sdage three Gommunism. No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.
>Sdage four Nod real gommunism. Move on to nexd goundry :DDDDDDD
Andrew Sullivan
>2008 crisis was just a housing bubble burst >GDP measures productive output Do you anything at all about anything?
Josiah Peterson
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Hudson Harris
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Thomas Rivera
b-b-b-but muh porky is oppressing you and me with his evil capitalism! Can't you see communism is the best economic system? I mean, isn't it obvious from all these a priori, unempirical philosophical statements?!!?!,!?!,!?!?!,
Josiah Foster
>most socialist country in europe >somehow it's porky's fault they're scavenging for food lmao. Then again, you deadbrained religious stalinists also say the USSR was "state capitalism".
Luis Ramirez
How's your rate of profitability doing?
Noah White
>Germany and EU isn't forcing austerity on the Greeks
Tyler Peterson
These people will die for Porky's right to steal their grandmothers pension.
Isaac Hughes
how's your self-contradictory, empirically false, and thoroughly debunked Marxist "economics" doing?
Ever heard of Sraffa? Top lel >implying commies care about real economics
>austerity >the reason the Greeks are in trouble top kek you commies honestly want a government and economy like Greece's don't you? You don't care wether it's sustainable or efficient, you just want welfare and free shit.
Well, I'm glad there are no intellectual commies in this thread. I have things to do this hour.
Leo Morales
>insisting Marxist economics have been "thoroughly"debunked k
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Levi Robinson
well you wouldn't know in the first place because you don't know shit about ECON, you are just a religious commie with extreme confirmation bias.
I'll take that as a NO, you've never heard of Sraffa. Well of course not, see the first sentence of this post.
Juan Long
we are literally 1 step away from full-blown communism mate. There are retards that actually believe that once we kill the 5 or so successful businessmen that are left in this god-forsaken shithole Greece will turn into a utopia. We'd just turn into Venezuela and the same retards will be crying that it isn't real communism, of course. But goddamn, I'd pity marxist ideologues if I wasn't busy being thoroughly disgusted by them. choppers fucking when?
Anthony Peterson
that sucks. Well good thing you're in the EU. Move to Denmark or something.
Dominic Rivera
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Isaac Bennett
>boo hoo hoo Greece is so poor >boo hoo wealthy people are going there to vacation and it makes me jealous :^( >even if they're actually helping Greece by spending money there well I guess you HAVE to rely on porky memes to try to spread communism you're economically illiterate
good for you learning to shill by being intellectually dishonest and ignoring posts that BTfO you
Anthony Rogers
Just look at this thoughtful discussion and articulate reasoning by the communists. I guess I am a #commiechamp now
Evan Walker
>rich people still exist in Greece nah, they've all left, they only come around at summer for vacation. There are a couple of oligarchs still around smoking cigars and shit but they are great friends with the socialist government that allows them to continue their business, otherwise they'd probably leave too. Of course that would be completely different once the communist revolution was underway! pic related, this was the fate of the communist leaders that started a civil war in the '40s and began the downfall of this country.
Henry Thomas
>pic related, this was the fate of the communist leaders that started a civil war in the '40s and began the downfall of this country. Greek people who think the 40s are to blame for the current economic problems make Porky smile
James King
lmao literally the only thing you can do now is spout porky memes and ignore actual criticisms of your debunked religion.
Michael Campbell
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Jackson Scott
Are you honestly expecting mentally ill people to have arguments?
Kevin Martin
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James Ramirez
some of them are intellectual despite their religion
Aaron Evans
obligatory
Nathaniel Hughes
can you find and post the one that's a commie blaming porky for his bike fall?
Joshua King
>boo hoo hoo Greece is so poor Never made that argument >boo hoo wealthy people are going there to vacation and it makes me jealous :^( Never made that argument >even if they're actually helping Greece by spending money there Never talked about that
>good for you learning to shill by being intellectually dishonest and ignoring posts that BTfO you I actually was only posting memes, before you came here and started "REEEEEing" Not really making any argument, so unsure how you BTFO'd an argument I never made.
I try to ignore posts where people are projecting their issues onto me and focus on making and posting porky memes.
Lincoln Cooper
>Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.
In other words: >Tfw too smart to eat food
Samuel Myers
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Liam Jackson
I read them every time. Let them have fun.
>> board disruption to propagandize and brainwash a community that you are hostile to.
Nigger hate day, jew hate every day 5,6 times on /pol.
>im reporting this general. Pic related
Justin Hughes
>socialist state fails >people demonstrate against the socialist state >It's the capitalists fault!!! dude, seriously. I wouldn't touch my country with a 10-foot pole if I wanted to argue against capitalism. We've had a demsoc government ever since the '70s that created a state that was too big to fail, with extremely short bursts of centrist right-wingers that were demonized for wanting to privatize the communications and the electricity industries. This didn't change until 2 years ago, when actual straight-up commies came in power. I understand that commies will still find a way to blame the right-wing, I really do, I encounter faggots like you on the daily. Seriously though, if you wanna ever convince someone about communism don't talk about Greece, just say that we don't have real communism and move on. And no, "zie germans" aren't "forcing austerity" on us. The socialists have been borrowing money ever since we entered the EU, and the germans simply want their money back. The """austerity""" they are forcing is pretty much what the right-wing has been calling for since the '90s, compressed and enlarged (since the debt has only gone up). We wouldn't have a problem if our country wasn't just a big corrupt socialist state. Half the people in this fucking country are employed in the state, they literally can't be fired via law voted by the socialists, and they all vote for leftists so as to keep that fucking law and not get fired, do you understand what that means motherfucker?
Daniel Reyes
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Christian Nelson
that's rich coming from a : cuck, jew, shill, jidf, (()))
Zachary Myers
At work, don't have it here. Sorry user
Jack Lopez
>can you find and post the one that's a commie blaming porky for his bike fall? You can't make it yourself? Sad... Nah I've just made the experience on Communism General there are a lot of people who want to get me into an argument and then make personal attacks so instead of wasting my time listening to people like you insult me I'm making porky memes, if you have a question I'll try to answer it.
I mean so far you've just accused me of thinking something and I'm really too lazy to deal with accusations that are going to devolve into a shouting match
Jackson Jones
>Unironically calling capitalists porky Can't wait for summer to be over.
Jace Murphy
It is time for you to go back
Carter Lopez
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Carson Lopez
One question,
Free market yes or no? (with limited goverment oversight ofc(not owning the means of production))
Colton Lopez
How's Venezuela working out for you guys?
Isaiah Perez
>Can't wait for summer to be over. Same
Jaxson Adams
It is not real Communism
Jose Roberts
>Free market yes or no? Depends on the market and depends on your definition of free.
No free market for CP.
Yes to the free market of ideas.
Christian Gonzalez
>>Burning 20 quids >>mfw
Robert Turner
need time to type the question up, sec
Aiden Barnes
ok. Well if you want a real argument: >Marx's numerical examples and tables are dynamic (without Marx knowing it) and don't work for long >The LTV is ludicrous. Machines and animals CAN produce more than their value, and the notion that machinery depreciates in value an equal value to the amount of value it adds is pure bullshit, and something that's at the center of Marxist ideology. >if captalists sought a high rate of profit, the rate of surplus that goes to the capitalist 1) would not increase and 2) would not be uniform--see Sraffa >GDP growth is universally slower under socialist and low-economic freedom nations compared to comparable capitalist nations. Thus, capitalism seems to be the quickest way to the "future" >communism (as in, the hypothetical post scarcity stage of society) is a priori impossible because humans will always compete for resources and there are b'very finite resources >communism requires an authoritarian state to spread propaganda and imprison "anti social elements" and prevent trade or finance >captalism (finance) is inherently good and increases everyone's wealth in the long run
Christopher Cox
>heheh, i've run out of arguments, here's another canned meme alright, fuck yo thread nigga
Charles Reed
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Robert Parker
i love charles II, the ultimate NEET autist who was somehow born into the most powerful family in the world. any more rare chucks?
Daniel Jackson
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Justin Diaz
and yeah, i'm obviously saging every one of these
William Flores
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Jack Martin
It was due to the government ruling house loans should be given out to more people, including people who would afford to pay them back. I cant think of any institution besides the american government who gained from this.
