Allowing certain jews into the alt-right

Should Jews be allowed in white identity movements?

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No. They're not white and they'd only subvert the cause.

Gonna play devil's advocate here, even though i mostly agree with you:

>but jews have "shabbos goyim" they use to manipulate other goyim by providing a "white face" to the crowd
>we should do the same thing to them, using jews that will work for our cause when we find them

Is there really a case to be made for this?

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If they want to help they can just do it in their communities, they need to stay away from our movements.
Jews are not welcome, never were, never will be.

Jew-hating jews are all right. Bobby Fischer, Brother Nathaniel, etc.

I guess Bobby Fischer is the one best example. Would we let him in, or keep him out because its necessary to have an all white movement for other reasons?

BASED JEW MAN

we should ignore every single e-celeb who doesn't name the jews

most e-celebs browse Sup Forums, they get their infos in Sup Forums, they get redpilled on Sup Forums, yet they never name the fucking jews, why is that ?

because they know it will shock, and they don't want to be called "nazis", it's kind of like that alt-lite who "don't want to be called racists", e-celebs will only talk about things their viewers will agree with, if you have The-Donald viewers, then you will never name the jews because it will hurt their feelings

we should only give a hand to original unafraid and unkiked Sup Forums posters like Mustacho, Murdoch and some others

>Frederic Raphael, who co-authored the Eyes Wide Shut script with Kubrick, recalled that the director once remarked that "Hitler was right about almost everything", and insisted that any trace of Jewishness be expunged from the Eyes Wide Shut script.
>Kubrick's bizarre relationship to his own ethnicity deeply troubled Raphael, a fellow Jew. Raphael was further puzzled over Kubrick's cryptic praise for Hitler, unable to decide if Kubrick was jesting.
>After Raphael mentioned Schindler’s List, Kubrick replied: “Think that's about the Holocaust? That was about success, wasn't it? The Holocaust is about six million people who get killed. 'Schindler's List’ is about 600 who don’t."

Yes but only for American focused ones.

I'm half Jewish and half Russian(my mother is Jewish-Russian and my father was non-Jew Russian). Ignoring the "Russians aren't white" just for this point.
Would you accept someone like me?

No because their loyalty is always to the tribe, anything they say contrary to that is a lie and they have no qualms against lying to goyim, as we are, in their eyes, cattle.

>because they know it will shock, and they don't want to be called "nazis"
this is an interesting point right here, because their fans will defend them, saying:
>"oh, but they can't go 14/88 saying GAS THE KIKES or else it will give us a bad name / turn off the normies / etc"
But we learned from GamerGate and other events of the American election, that if you try to censor something, you actually draw attention it. The example is Kate Middleton's nude photos, or Barbara Streissand -- they actually call it "The Streissand Effect". So when you name the jew, and they go after you for it, it just brings tons and tons of attention to JEWISH POWER. This redpills people more than anything else anyone can say as a celebrity. Seeing how Jews will SHUT IT DOWN when they are criticized is the biggest redpill. Like RageAfterStorm.

no

Might as well start inviting muslims then.

Just out of curiosity, define for us why you would give your life for the white race over the jews?

Is that weev?

The only people who can out jew the jew are the Anglos.

Only ashkenazi jews

Not arab """"""""jews""""""""""'

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All based magapedes should be allowed into the movement! /s

Absolutely yes

>Should Jews be allowed in white identity movements?
Jews aren't white, they should fuck off to Israel.

It is part of the Jews to be sneaky and sly. The genius of our people has ever been joyous strength, robust forcefulness, directness, manly courage, and flaming heroism. When the Jews, with their economic terrorism, jails, bullies and hangmen, scare the White man into laying down his cudgel and goad him into trying to out-sneak Jewish tyranny, the Jews have completely emasculated the once-strong White man, and doomed him to dishonor and defeat. The White man can NEVER win by sneaking! - Commander George Lincoln Rockwell

If I would have lived in a white country all my life I would probably be as nationalistic towards it as I am to the country I was actually born in and lived all my life in, Israel.

That's why I asked someone like me.

No. Our struggle is against the Jews.

>not knowing Hungarian-American Jew Paul Gottfried invented the term Alt Right

If they are white Ex jews who name the jew.

Jewishness is a social construct.

But you understand the point, that it's a racial movement. If you ask to be part of it, and you are 1/4 Jewish, then my natural curiosity is this:
>"why do you want to promise your life to your Russian side, over your Jewish side"?
There are many Jews who want to fight for white nationalism, and many are mixed-race like you. So I want to understand why they want to side with one side of their heritage against the other. Also, why should anyone trust them, since they might change their mind and side with their other half.

>Jewishness is a social construct.
lurk moar pls

Holy shit, how did you find that pic? I saw him live talking to Lana at NPI last year and his face was blurred when I went back to see it on the live-stream after it was over. I never thought I'd see his face again.

The alt-right is more about preserving the White/European identity, Jews/Blacks can't really be part of it no matter how redpilled or right-wing they are.
Just be a civic nationalist and fight for family/western-values etc., also use your platform as a non-white to call out other anti-white non-whites.

You refer to research by jews. So either you are a kike or an idiot.

Jewishness is a meme, they are grasping at straws to strengthen the meme.

>you're a kike if you don't think jews are white
wew

Well ashkenazi jews are genetically white anyway

Nope.

More kike research ...

Jews are desperate to keep their whites in the fold to preserve their competency. Hell they are so desperate for whites they try to convince Spanish people they were jews all along. You can bet that all the Ashkenazi they cherry picked were hooknosed turbokikes.

yDNA is not the entire picture.

The CIA put a lot of work into that vid trying to make us hate Lauren. She must be doing great work getting the normies on board

I'll tell you what, the day that a Jew can admit that white genocide is happening will be the day that I can agree to a Jew taking part within an "alt-right" (whatever that is) movement.

p.s. It'll never happen.

Those who will side with you don't see any conflict. They view themselves firstly as part of you and only then as Jewish.
The part of my family that didn't come to Israel didn't leave Russia because they see themselves as Russians and only then as Jews.

>Hammer, University of Arizona
>S. Santachiara-Benerecetti, Università degli Studi di Pavia, Italy
>Department of Genetics, University of Leicester
>University of Witwatersrand, Johannesburg
>New York University Medical Center, New York, NY
But it's just:
>More kike research ...
Right Moishe?

Suace:
pnas.org/content/97/12/6769.full

>yDNA is not the entire picture
Nope, there's overwhelming evidence from every source, and none to the contrary. Jut shills who want to defend the Jewish chameleon ability.

>the CIA spent money to make you fall out of love with your waifu
Lose your virginity before you're 25, and get a job.

You comprehend that these are civic nationalist examples you're giving, right? You also understand that you're currently in Israel because the right of return is open to jews only, right? You see how these concepts are different, right?

If you don't name the jew you can't have white identity. Jewishness is white genocide at this point. Maybe at some point pre-WW2 a peaceful assimilation (and thus eradication) of jews in white communities was possible. But no longer.

The battle lines are drawn, jewish identity or white identity. Can't have both and be sane.

See, this is the issue with Jews. They are Schrödinger's countrymen. They are simultaneously Jewish and of whatever nation is hosting them. They don't always side with their countrymen, but they don't always side with their fellow Jews. It makes them very very difficult to trust.

I unsubscribed from TOQ because Andrew Joyce thought this was a good idea. I unsubscribed from Red Ice because they dared interview that greasy slime ball. I'm a trad Cath and I refuse to have anything to do with pagan larpers who don't know jews like I do. Moral of the story? No kikes allowed.

>Nope, there's overwhelming evidence from every source, and none to the contrary. Jut shills who want to defend the Jewish chameleon ability.
Jewish chameleon identity cannot exist without intermarriage as they cannot otherwise pass as members of the host nation.
nature.com/articles/ncomms3543
Jared and Ivanka are a good example of the typical genetic history of the Ashkenazim. Shiksas aren't just a meme, and European Jews, while genetically distinguishable from Europeans, are not genetically distinct.

Jews have their own home compliments of teh >Goyim
>niggers have an entire chocolate continent all to themselves; the area of which is greater than China, The US and Europe combined. Fuck niggers!
>do a search for the 16-tenets of the Alt-R and see if you agree on all points. If not, you are either a Civic Nationalist of the cuckold variety or a Globalist of the cuckold variety

lolno

>allowing jews into white identity movements

i wonder what's going to happen?

>Jared and Ivanka
>less than 1/8th jewish example and a convert
Nope, try harder:

pnas.org/content/97/12/6769.full

Jews shouldn't be in any media or politics outside Israel

>Hammer, University of Arizona

Lets just take this one. This guy co-founded the DNA Shoah project ...

all jews are evil
civ cucks die last , but they still die.

Weak. They're a race. Try harder. Maybe on reddit.

Absolutely not. Jews subvert every single movement they are allowed into, it happens every single time. The only Jews I somewhat trust are the explicitly antisemitic Jews like Brother Nathanael, but even they should be kept at arms length.

And I'm sure that if they are actually aware of the Jewish nature they wouldn't even disagree with that decision

yDNA is not the only story.
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2964539/

Splitting hairs, theres an avalanche of reasons beyond that to consider them a distinct race.

Of course they're a different race. They are a genetically generally European race, but yes, they are distinct from other European races.

And white nationalism in Europe is also civic nationalism if you look at it that way.
You don't share language, traditions or history.

Russians who are also Jews do share language, traditions and history if you don't go too far back.
They will go to war for Russia because they're emotionally tied to the land.

False. It is ethno-nationalism.

Yeah, there is admixture, but not enough for them to be "a European race" as some around here try to argue.

>white nationalism in Europe is also civic nationalism
No, civic nationalism means there is no criteria beyond some abstract category that makes someone a member of a nation. Ethno-nationalism usually means someone is ethnically something (French, German, etc), and racial nationalism is the idea that race exists and is an important criteria for citizenship in a nation. Often, racialism is tied to ethnicity, but they need not be tied absolutely, logically speaking. Still, these are all different things.

>less than 1/8th jewish

Find a white couple that can give birth to a brown skined, central asian looking child...

NO!!! DON'T YOU GET IT ? JEWS ALWAYS TRY TO INFILTRATE EVERY MOVEMENT THAT IS TRYING TO GAIN POWER!!! WHATEVER THEIR IDEOLOGY IS!!! THEY JUST WANT TO MAINTAIN THEIR OWN POWER STATUS AND USE EVERYONE AS THEIR PUPPET!!!

lol user, this kike looks like he's related to matthew mcconaughey. The Kushner family always marries goyim, so he might not even be 18th genetically Jewish. You wouldn't know he was jewish by looking at him, that's a serious amount of watering down they've undergone.
>brown skined
Many European races have tan skin, and we're not saying he isnt genetically jewish. Obvious why she looks like she does, she has Ivankas eyes.

>Should Jews be allowed in white identity movements?
No

>And white nationalism in Europe is also civic nationalism if you look at it that way.
>You don't share language, traditions or history.
All humans who walk this earth share language, traditions, and history. Pan-human nationalism is justifiable on those grounds. But pan-human nationalism means living side by side in peace and friendship in separate countries and separate developments, just as neighbors live in separate apartments or separate houes and as brothers live with their own wives and their own children and not with each other.

If you love your family, by extension you love your extended family, your tribe, your ethnic group, your race, your species, your genus, and all life. But you still rank your priorities appropriately and you live sensibly. An Orthodox Jew who speaks only Yiddish and keeps a dairy kitchen and a meat kitchen should not be roommates with a Filipino Christian who only speaks Tagalog and loves to eat pork. That will lead to nothing but trouble.

Civic nationalism is the folly of forcing distinct groups with drastically divided goals into one polity and desperately begging them to have the same goals and ideals. Imperialism is forcing them. Imperialism works until victory defeats it and the groups held together by strength naturally split apart in the midst of weakness. Civic nationalism is a recipe for a constant cold civil war and eventually a hot one.

Jews in Russia who feel tied to the Russians are partially tied by blood and are emotionally tied to the Russian people, not the land.

A nation is not the dirt.

>weev.png

we may never know

What's the difference between white and jew?

Because he looks less Jewish than his parents who look like full kikes makes him 1/8th Jewish?

No.they have shabbos goyim because they need them. We don't need these disgusting rats, nor want them anywhere near anyone white.

>A nation is not the dirt.

implying we shouldn't have borders. tldr; jew detected

jews identify very personally with the ideas of ethnic nationalism except their minds are clouded by the holocaust which creates a double standard. they advocate for israel a purely jewish state that doesnt want to be held to UN regulations yet they believe it is wrong for white christians of a given ethnicity to do the same. maybe there needs to be more dialogue to explain how the creation of an ethnic nationalist state does not have to include genocide in the same way the creation of Israel didnt involve the gassing of palestinians

One is a human and the other only plays the role of a human.

"White" means an Anglo-American as opposed to American Negroes or American Indians. In SA it means Afrikaners and Anglo South Africans as opposed to coloreds or Bantus. In Australia it means Anglo-Australians as opposed to Australian Aborigines. In New Zealand it means Anglo-New Zealanders as opposed to Maori.

"White" just means " fair-skinned people who live next to some much darker skinned people."

In Europe, the homeland of very fair-skinned people who are not Mongoloid, white has much less meaning because the races change clinally, along a spectrum, and are not as readily distinguishable as Anglo-Australians from Abos.

Are Jews white? The fair-skinned ones are. Are fair-skinned Jews the same ethnic group as the various European ethnic groups? Absolutely not.

Not even 1

sure if you want to be subverted

>Allowing certain jews into the alt-right
why is jidf using white supremacist flag?

The ((((alt-right))) is already full of these smelly rats. This is why NAZISM is the only way to save our civilization!

Literally implying the exact opposite. Just because you live or were born in a country doesn't magically make you part of a different ethnic group.

Borders that form along ethnic lines are more stable and prevent wars between nations for control of extant polites that they cohabit. I am 100% for borders because nations are not dirt.

>D&C
Nice try faggot. Go back to leftypol.

>we should do the same thing to them, using jews that will work for our cause when we find them

No, lying, subversion and other dirty tactics might work short term but are bad long term. Look at the jews, if their tactics were so good they wouldn't be hated for 2000+ years across entire nations.

Absolutely not.

fuck no. if they want to be traditional God fearing jews instead of progressive subverters then that's good, but they can have their own thing (except they already do & it's called Zionism)

WTF is this anyway? What's the source?

No, kikes and their traditions are evil. The prophet Jesus called them children of Satan and was the first to stand up to them. They literally have holidays about mass genocides of goyim. They hate you and they want you dead or a slave. This is a fact in their holy book.

Imagine what Hilter could have achieved if he had the Jews as allies.

>Russians who are also Jews do share language, traditions and history if you don't go too far back.

To be fair, I have noticed that Russian Jews are proud of their Russian identity as well.

This

Best not to get involved with Jews and it is never a good idea to tolerate celebrity culture.

The type of person that converts because of ecelebs is the wrong type. We don't want them.

no, his family always marrying goyim makes him less than 1/8th jewish, possibly, but mostly being hyperbolic for rhetorical effect. You get the point.

>if you mention natsoc its D&C
wow, the memes are true

No, thay should be filtered for humbleness and exterminated if no pass

look who's crying "D&C" again