Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.
What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need. >Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need." >To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said. marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/
Why don't you move to Cuba? Or Venezuela. Comrades?
Ethan Rodriguez
>>caring about commies lifes >This board is lost >lmao too bad the explosion wasn't big enough
Asher Howard
They'll just say State Capitalism, because it's never their faults.
Lucas Brooks
Comrade let's start a kickstarter where our comrades get free one-way airplane ticked to communist utopias.
Nicholas Rivera
Everyone ITT:
Anthony Gray
>Venezuela Sorry, no capitalism for me.
Tyler Miller
It's always someone elses fault? Afterall, communism clearly can do no wrong.
Grayson Sanders
Comrade I read Venezuela flags in Sup Forums and reddit. They seem to be loving the great utopia over there. Why don't we start a kickstarter funds and we get our comrades free tickets to go there?
Carter Smith
Excuse me? Communism is awesome.
Oliver Cox
>Waiting for that guy to post a spurdo version
Aaron Barnes
>ex soviet country
Umm no. Your country was a great part of USSR. Communism worked over there.
Eli Reed
As a American citizen who has never left this country, let me tell about why the Lithuanian SSR was great...
William Robinson
Ah, food lines, so awesome
Josiah Gray
>It's not real capitalism Everytime without fail
Liam Perez
Sage
Caleb Edwards
I don't imply that capitalism can't fail, because it has failed in other countries.
Hunter Stewart
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Dominic Sanchez
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Nolan Lopez
And wouldn't you know it, it was fixed.
Zachary Perry
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Ryder Jackson
>because it has failed in other countries. Yes like entire Eastern Europe. People are miserable over there and poor. It's really really sad to see
Oliver Perez
Eastern European countries prospered under Communism. Everyone lost weight. that's why we need Communism comrades.
Josiah Harris
>Worked Is it still working though? >let me tell about why the Lithuanian SSR was great... Tell me
Brayden Young
Sorry not real comunism.
Justin Miller
With WW2 lmao, meanwhile...
Julian Anderson
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD >Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD >To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people. gommies.gom/fug/ gommies.gom/starve/
>entire Eastern Europe That isn't very true, countries like Czechia and other Warsaw Pact nations are making slow recoveries. This doesn't mean you should bring back a worst system.
Owen Young
ummm actually he wasn't kike. He was for a very short time, and realized it was kikes behind it and said fuck this and wrote 9184 about what a load of shit it is
Aaron Russell
And even they hated commies. Looks like many African shitholes right now.
Lucas Rodriguez
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Noah Sanchez
He was against totalitarianism, not socialism
Lol
Brody King
Anyone fucking stupid enough to want communism should be gassed immediately, anyone that wants big government at all should be choked to death with bare hands
Christian Wilson
>He was against totalitarianism, not socialism >socialism >totalitarianism >implying one can exist without the other
Dylan Roberts
Orwell was a SocDem
Camden Cox
>Chávez Stop.
Hudson Brown
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John Morales
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Daniel Cooper
serious question you are kike
Charles Ortiz
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Landon James
There was no argument you posted a facebook meme
Isaiah Collins
motherfuck I am dying laughing >libertarian socialism
Grayson Brooks
Ben "Throw the Kulak in the Gulag" Garrison
Why? You don't have to be Jewish to see the flaws in capitalism. It's good to challenge your beliefs by reading other material, see where they're coming from.
Jaxson Wilson
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Alexander Hughes
>1810 china >capitalist
Sebastian Perry
Just going to leave this here...
David Wood
it was rhetorical I already knew you are a kike. THIS WHY WE WILL NEVER COMMUNISM KIKE GYS
“We should turn Her (Russia) into a desert populated with white Niggers. We will impose upon them such a tyranny that was never dreamt by the most hideous despots of the East. The peculiar trait of that tyranny is that it will be enacted from the left rather than the right and it will be red in the literal sense of that word, for we shall shed such streams of blood that all the losses of human lives in Capitalist wars will shrink and pale before them. The biggest bankers on the other side of the Atlantic will work in very close collaboration with us. If we win the Revolution, crush Russia, we shall consolidate the power of Zionism on her funereal remains and become such a force that the whole world will go down on its knees before it. We will show what real power is.” (Aaron Simanovich, “Memoirs”, Paris, 1922, Molodaya Gvardiya, Moscow, No. 6, 1991, p. 55.)
Jack Kelly
"The Jews were now free to indulge in their most fervent fantasies of mass murder of helpless victims. Christians were dragged from their beds, tortured and killed. Some were actually sliced to pieces, bit by bit, while others were branded with hot irons, their eyes poked out to induce unbearable pain. Others were placed in boxes with only their heads, hands and legs sticking out. Then hungry rats were placed in the boxes to gnaw upon their bodies. Some were nailed to the ceiling by their fingers or by their feet, and left hanging until they died of exhaustion. Others were chained to the floor and left hanging until they died of exhaustion. Others were chained to the floor and hot lead poured into their mouths. Many were tied to horses and dragged through the streets of the city, while Jewish mobs attacked them with rocks and kicked them to death. Christian mothers were taken to the public square and their babies snatched from their arms. A red Jewish terrorist would take the baby, hold it by the feet, head downward and demand that the Christian mother deny Christ. If she would not, he would toss the baby into the air, and another member of the mob would rush forward and catch it on the tip of his bayonet.
Brandon Moore
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Nicholas Turner
Pregnant Christian women were chained to trees and their babies cut out of their bodies. There were many places of public execution in Russia during the days of the revolution, one of which was described by the American Rohrbach Commission: 'The whole cement floor of the execution hall of the Jewish Cheka of Kiev was flooded with blood; it formed a level of several inches. It was a horrible mixture of blood, brains and pieces of skull. All the walls were bespattered with blood. Pieces of brains and of scalps were sticking to them. A gutter of 25 centimeters wide by 25 centimeters deep and about 10 meters long was along its length full to the top with blood. Some bodies were disemboweled, others had limbs chopped off, some were literally hacked to pieces. Some had their eyes put out, the head, face and neck and trunk were covered with deep wounds. Further on, we found a corpse with a wedge driven into its chest. Some had no tongues. In a corner we discovered a quantity of dismembered arms and legs belonging to no bodies that we could locate.'" (Defender Magazine, October 1933).
Easton Robinson
"The Red Terror became so wide-spread that it is impossible to give here all the details of the principal means employed by the [Jewish] Cheka(s) to master resistance; one of the most important is that of hostages, taken among all social classes. These are held responsible for any anti-Bolshevist movements (revolts, the White Army, strikes, refusal of a village to give its harvest etc.) and are immediately executed. Thus, for the assassination of the Jew Ouritzky, member of the Extraordinary Commission of Petrograd, several thousands of them were put to death, and many of these unfortunate men and women suffered before death various tortures inflicted by cold-blooded cruelty in the prisons of the Cheka.
Chase Parker
I have in front of me photographs taken at Kharkoff, in the presence of the Allied Missions, immediately after the Reds had abandoned the town; they consist of a series of ghastly reproductions such as: Bodies of three workmen taken as hostages from a factory which went on strike. One had his eyes burnt, his lips and nose cut off; the other two had their hands cut off.The bodies of hostages, S. Afaniasouk and P. Prokpovitch, small landed proprietors, who were scalped by their executioners; S. Afaniasouk shows numerous burns caused by a white hot sword blade. The body of M. Bobroff, a former officer, who had his tongue and one hand cut off and the skin torn off from his left leg.Human skin torn from the hands of several victims by means of a metallic comb. This sinister find was the result of a careful inspection of the cellar of the Extraordinary Commission of Kharkoff. The retired general Pontiafa, a hostage who had the skin of his right hand torn off and the genital parts mutilated. Mutilated bodies of women hostages: S. Ivanovna, owner of a drapery business, Mme. A.L. Carolshaja, wife of a colonel, Mmo. Khlopova, a property owner. They had their breasts slit and emptied and the genital parts burnt and having trace of coal.Bodies of four peasant hostages, Bondarenko, Pookhikle, Sevenetry, and Sidorfehouk, with atrociously mutilated faces, the genital parts having been operated upon by Chinese torturers in a manner unknown to European doctors in whose opinion the agony caused to the victims must have been dreadful.
Benjamin Lee
It is impossible to enumerate all the forms of savagery which the Red Terror took. A volume would not contain them. The Cheka of Kharkoff, for example, in which Saenko operated, had the specialty of scalping victims and taking off the skin of their hands as one takes off a glove...At Voronege the victims were shut up naked in a barrel studded with nails which was then rolled about. Their foreheads were branded with a red hot iron FIVE POINTED STAR. At Tsaritsin and at Kamishin their bones were sawed...At Keif the victim was shut up in a chest containing decomposing corpses; after firing shots above his head his torturers told him that he would be buried alive. The chest was buried and opened again half an hour later when the interrogation of the victim was proceeded with. The scene was repeated several times over. It is not surprising that many victims went mad." (S.P. Melgounov, p. 164-166; The Secret Powers Behind Revolution, by Vicomte Leon De Poncins, p. 151-153).
/THREAD MOTHERFUCKER
Andrew Ward
So, let me guess, when communists killed a member of virtually every extended family in Bulgaria, and kicked from the city everyone with any university degree, giving their homes to savage peasants, that was not real communism?
Gavin Butler
>It's good to challenge your beliefs by reading other material, see where they're coming from.
Nigger have read enough books to fill your entire living room. I read the communist manifesto 20 years ago. I wrote a book in 3 weeks and got a publishing deal from the first publisher I sent it to. I know what the fuck kikes wan t and I know what they are doing, and I wtf they have planned. In fact I know more than 99.9% of the useful idiot kikes
John Foster
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Thomas Clark
private places of employment are essentially little dictatorships >b-but you can choose your employer not in this fucking late stage capitalist economy, having your choice of king doesn't make you free
>s-start your own business once again this late-stage monopolist capitalist economy does not favor the poor advancing, unless you have literal millions of daddy's money to invest expect to spend 10 years wage cucking just to collect enough capital to start a business
Asher Davis
That pic lol
Logan Miller
>not in this fucking late stage capitalist economy, having your choice of king doesn't make you free
agreed, capitalism needs ot be regulated. However every government is essentially flawed because people are fucking weak, selfish, POS. All will eventually end in tyranny and revolution. The smaller it starts with the most checks and balances the longer it will last. Totalitarian Communism is what capitalism will always evolve to before revolution, the further you start from it the better. Not that it matters much anymore. With technology the way it is and the psycopaths that are in all the positions of power this will be the last time free people fall anyway. There will be no possibility for revolution after this. It will basically be stargate they have technology to wipe out the entire planet already
Sebastian Diaz
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Jayden Sullivan
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Ryder Nguyen
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Henry Turner
fucking rofl the psyop shit kikes pull is so transparent its hilarious to see
Cooper Flores
In your dreams
Eli Cooper
>show them something part of their culture that they kike, then introduce something we want them to like with it
nigger we aren't dogs no matter what your retarded ass Talmud tells you
/vg/ Venezuela General If Gommunism Works Defend Maduro
Jonathan Miller
Why would we defend the regime which isnt based on marxism methodology?
Jason Moore
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Nolan Phillips
How's Venezuela doing???
Benjamin Parker
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Jaxon Myers
>commies want to put an end to pic related
Tell me why the West shouldn't engage in Western/white chauvinism and brutally, brutally, subjugate all the 3rd-world nigger countries - making them our slaves and extracting resources from them, so we can live like kangz.
Contemporary Marxism is all about "hurr durr, muh evil white imperialism must be stopped!", and the Soviet Union literally gave supplies and weapons to 3rd-world niggers so they could attack white countries and resist our rule. Virtually all communists (90% of them being leftcoms) support open borders and globalism, which goes against white working-class interests. The 3rd-world niggers usually settle in working-class white areas, and cause the crime rates their to go up, while simultaneously decreasing the value of labor.
What's the point of it all? Having a NatSoc or Nazbol system would mean we could dominate foreigners, and collect more resources for the Western, white working class (you), to be used as gibs.
Thomas Kelly
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Juan Garcia
the communism stage already happened it fucking died lmao
Justin Phillips
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Easton Collins
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Juan Perez
>and the Soviet Union literally gave supplies and weapons to 3rd-world niggers Educate yourself nigger.
This sad sideshow of a """general""" is still kicking?
Levi Howard
>and the Soviet Union literally gave supplies and weapons to 3rd-world niggers so they could attack white countries and resist our rule. USA was on the forefront regarding anti-colonialist agenda.
Adrian Young
FUCKING LOLZ, YOU MEAN THE JEWS WANT TO SOLIDIFY IT
Communism VS Fascism Communism strong central bank owned by Jews (namely the Rothchilds) Jews hold most white collar positions of privilege everyone is equal (as slaves under Jewish hegemony) antisemitism is outlawed authoritarian rule
Fascism Barter System between nations no central bank The best for the Job gets the Job (except Jews of course) Everyone is equal under the state to flourish Semites are outlawed authoritarian rule
Communism Take private property (aka the means of production, or factories) from the individuals that own them and give them to "the state" (a small number of people in positions of privilege filled through nepotism) turning the entire country into private property owned by them with the people still working in factories they don't own and now will never have an opportunity to own making less than they did before with a lower standard of living. Or to make it simple basically a return to feudal serfdom only the lords will now all be Jews instead of natives that basically consider the gentiles livestock
Caleb Green
These threads have been made for months, and so far not one single Sup Forums-tard has managed to disprove Communism. Sad!
Benjamin Anderson
the true problem is that private property leads to corruption
abolish private property and corruption becomes impossible
>Some random asshole: if you pass these laws in my favor I will give you 20 percent of the profits from my factory >workers: you don't control the factory we do
how can a such a society even have corruption?
Blake Turner
I know there are many good ones of you guys. Why are most Jews useful idiots for the psycopaths at the top? Don't they know they are as fucked as the rest of us when they consolidate power? There are shabbos goy in the secret societies that will reign over them and there transgender, transhuman, fucking satanic slave society, Why do Jews help work towards this shit? Lol you are part of the club, but they are biggest useful idiots of all, in fact you are the original useful idiots. How do you think helping pedo satanists take over the world will work out well for you?
Mason Carter
I know about Iraq and the Taliban (Taliban being to fight gommies), but it pales in comparison to your faggotry.
Soviets gave guns and supplies to liek 50 different communist parties/nations in Asia, Africa, and Latin America. You literally helped niggers in South Africa kill the based Boers. You were a threat to Western civilization.
David Butler
>You vs the guy she tells you not to worry about
Brody Morales
ummm except this yah let's not allow citizens to won anything lets let a very small number of citizens we call the "state" own it all
Xavier Morales
When you send people to gulags, it is easier to feed people.
Evan Evans
hahah the trusty ole number kike tactic, insult someones masculinity and attack the women. You kikes are such cowards. I have no problem picking up women and no problem kicking in the shit of kikes and their lackeys
Jason Fisher
>USA was on the forefront regarding anti-colonialist agenda.
Maybe under faggots like Carter, be we weren't giving literal bombs and weapons to nigger communist parties to kill huwhites.
Nolan Richardson
Jew fro and their lackeys will get god smacked
Oliver Davis
Fuck I wish I could join them
Christian Diaz
Die leftypol, the community just declared war on you Suck this: youtube.com/watch?v=MD6oDnm43HA
