Here's my take on the immanent Balkanization of America. What does everyone think?

Here's my take on the immanent Balkanization of America. What does everyone think?

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get that faggot confed shit out of texas.
we stand alone.

It's just hypothetical

I'd give the buffalo region to the United States.

Why would there still be state borders?

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>United States
>still existing after after a Civil War

pick one

Also,

>Missouri
>Kentucky
>West Virginia
>Maryland
>remaining part of the Union

Get the fuck outta here. All the South belongs the CSA.

Can KY be part of New Germania and Dixie?

God Bless TX

Missouri is not southern.
We are midwestern, German Diaspora.

Thanks, I love when the South keeps us(KY).

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>Missouri is not southern

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I love seeing Jefferson, but I think you'l have to take into consideration the actual demographics of each region to get an accurate view of what the country will look like in 2030 or 2060

I'm just showing how it would overlay on state

>New Germania

Yeah, uhhh... About that...

economist.com/news/united-states/21642222-americas-largest-ethnic-group-has-assimilated-so-well-people-barely-notice-it

Look closley I did

Maryland here, those of us outside of the fucking big cities still remember, and still wish to rejoin our fellow sister states.

"Let me tell you what is coming. After the sacrifice of countless millions of treasure and hundreds of thousands of lives, you may win Southern independence if God be not against you, but I doubt it. I tell you that, while I believe with you in the doctrine of states rights, the North is determined to preserve this Union. They are not a fiery, impulsive people as you are, for they live in colder climates. But when they begin to move in a given direction, they move with the steady momentum and perseverance of a mighty avalanche; and what I fear is, they will overwhelm the South" - Sam Houston

Oh Maryland... My Maryland...

Fixed it

>Missouri
>Kentucky
>West Virginia
>Maryland

>not southern

One day, we will spurn the Northern Scum, one day.

From a geopolitical standpoint, it just doesn't make sense for Texas to be separate from the CSA

>BC
>joining with anyone besides the Yukon

Aside from libtards in Vancouver the rest of BC thinks uniting with the most retarded left wing US states would be stupid.

Find a flaw

>Russians have been trying to divide America since 1943
>Still hasn't happened
Unlike Russia, we're not weak traitors who stab each other in the back. We stay united because united we stand.

I did it for all the complaining texans

It physically hurts me to say but Oklahoma would side with Texas over the other southern states.

That faggot Jerrycuck bird slapped in the middle of it

I don't want my country to die.

Texas is separate form the CSA
Panama isn't a part of Colombia
Mexico isn't controlling Belize,Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador, Nicaragua and Costa Rica
Up state NY and the Maritime provinces aren't a part of New England

this 100%

Here's one from somekind of book, seems like fantasy. I know one made with actual data that shows US fragmentation but not gonna show that one.

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It's dead already. It needs to balkanize and become something new. Evola was right about American society.

Maryland, Missouri, and Kentucky weren't part of the the original CSA. West Virginia broke away

YES
You're the first person to EVER get Cascadia and Deseret right! I salute you. Although I'm a bit uncertain about Quebec not taking all of southern Labrador. They'd kill for that shit

You'd rather support your country than your nation? What does a Californian have in common with an Alabaman?

I think that was written by an ex-KGB officer IIRC

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quit trying to meme this gay shit. we'll reign the commies and kikes in and the usa will be great again.

>Midwest
>taking rightful Southern clay

Please save your expansionist autism for the West Coast thank you.

You are naive to think that America will survive until 2100.

Doesn't seem so, the author is Colin Woodard who is a journalist, or I am not looking good enough

Texas needs her Lebensraum, too.

>¡estamos solo amigo!
>legacy captcha: MEXICO

The US will not Balkanize. It isn't regionally splintered at all, the economies are too intertwined. If anything it will be a Spanish Civil War scenario where there's an irregular split between urban and suburban/rural strongholds. Russia, the UK, Spain, or Italy are more likely to Balkanize than the US.

Mexico still exists

Guess I was wrong.

Except Spain is a very small country by comparison and with the exception of the Basque has a monoculture. It was relatively easy for Franco to keep the country together after the war. It would more or less impossible to do that here.

I don't want it to die either, but it's gonna happen. America is just way too big and it's going deeper into debt. My guess, is that if some Bernie sander. Socialist ever gets into office, (which it probably will happen within the next 25 years) that'll be the death scentence of America

This is why I'm actually kinda glad he lost the primary. Had he won, we wouldn't even have lasted 8 years

On a long enough time base, everything will balkanize, and not when you expect it either

Nah, here's what I think will happen

>tension between left and right escalates
>eventually there are race riots / ideology riots
>shuts down the country for a few days
>a few people get killed
>politicians shit the bed
>people realise actually they don't want a full blown race war
>everyone commits to a future america of hating each other less - including blaming white people less - to stop the country tearing itself apart

Screencap this, because it will happen.

perfect

That's why I only had part of BC uniting with Washington

>What does a Californian have in common with an Alabaman?


>implying there cannot exist multitudes of both Californians and Alabamans who speak American English, drink coke, eat burgers, play baseball, listen to the same Folk songs and the same patriotic anthems, hold the same political and moral values, share the same history and race, who live in roughly the same type of terrain, and pray to the same Triune God of our forefathers

Maryland tried to join, and was occupied after the good people of Baltimore opened fire on the Massachusetts regiment Abe sent there, knowing it would start a fight, as Maryland told him they did not want to shed fellow American blood, but that if they had to pick a side, it would be the South.Many Marylanders fled to Virginia only to get shot for it.

West Virginia was separated by Abe, with most of those in western Virginia not really carrying about the war, as it was sparsely populated.

Funny story about WV, there is a town there who fought for both the North, and the South. In short they wanted to be left the hell alone(as did most hillbillies) and so downed both uniforms depending on who showed up, and chased em out.

>Russian shill wants America to divide itself
Not going to happen, Russian. We stand united against your evil.

What's wrong with the second one?

>Ky
>Not part of Dixie
Wtf are you doing kid?

Deseret is rit based on the original boundaries. Realistically, I don't think many of those places would join Deseret since they're maybe only 15% Mormon

No it fucking won't. Not with (((them))) around and not when we're $19-20 Trillion down the fucking whole. When and or if we fall the whole world is going to collapse economically. There will be major civil and racial unrest. Wars will break out, nations that are doing better off will join in and pick a side, others will take over land. Mexico, Canada, Russia, England, other European nations, and some Asian ones will all join in if we fall and it's going to be one giant fucking clusterfuck to the point the very ideas and beliefs of the Founding Fathers are lost to time and destruction. If we fall it's the end. You're scenario is unrealistic.

hole*

>. It was relatively easy for Franco to keep the country together after the war. It would more or less
You have no idea what you're talking about. Basque country, Galicia, Castille, Catalonia all have distinct regional cultures with their own dialects. If it's impossible to keep the US together, what's preventing it from falling into chaos right now? It surely isn't pure force. People aren't naturally inclined to rebel.

Exactly wrong. In the long stretch of history everything has converged, modern technology has sped this process a thousandfold.

Have you ever been to the ghetto? I got yelled at about racist cops just gfor being present. These people hate white poeple so much that of half of. What you said happened then a full blown race war will break out. Here's what I think would happen

The US would be so deep in debt that it would collapse. Then people would form new nations from the rubble. Kinda like what happened to the USSR

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Accusing someone of being a Russian shill on Sup Forums? Well that's a first.

Mormons are cool people, and some of the best to live besides, but I sure as hell wouldn't want to live in a Theocracy of them. Delve deep enough and you will lean they there are three kinds of Mormons.

Jack Mormons, those who only follow it as its their parents religion, and act normal.
Church Mormons, those who are like 90-95% normal Christians, besides some retelling of the Holy Bible.
Temple Mormons...Holy shit, these are true Mormons, and as different from Christianity as Islam is. Should Deseret become real, even if its only Utah, be ready for ISIS in the U.S.

Well the Basque are the only ones who seem to be really want independence to the point of bombing people so it's a little to forget about lil' Catalonia.

>If it's impossible to keep the US together, what's preventing it from falling into chaos right now?

An army of nearly three million men, the largest and most intrusive security apparatus in existence, and common identity. The latter of which would completely disintegrate in a civil war along with the first two if the government collapses.

Some might argue the American identity is already disintegrating.

Italy and Spain are balkanizing in the next 10 years, guaranteed. Spain is gonna start in October. As for America, its way to big of a country. Every country ever to have gotten that big eventually fell apart. Spanish empire, French empir,e roman, Mongolian, British, and list goes on. The USSR fell apart 25 years ago from being too deep into debt. That is exactly what I think will happen to America.

Whatever you do, don't vote in any left wing candidates. They will push socialist policies that will destroy the country sooner than its supposed to

>not going to happen
Says the guy with a confederate flag

That's what Jews want you to do so they can perform white genocide.

>Then people would form new nations from the rubble. Kinda like what happened to the USSR
No, it would be like China and the US would try to reconstitute itself. The USSR collapsed when nations with identities long separate from Russia, like Poland or Lithuania, separated. There is no such thing in the US, which has a geopolitical core in the Mississippi basin and thus is immune to disintegrative splits of that kind.

Deseret too big, CSA shouldn't include west va or ky, Texas too big, cali too small

>In the long stretch of history everything has converged, modern technology has sped this process a thousandfold.
If you say so.
My sources tell a different story.

>Should Deseret become real, even if its only Utah, be ready for ISIS in the U.S.

Mormons are closer to Jews Tbh.

Turtledove definitely blew an opportunity when he was writing Southern Victory by making the Mormons parallel Islamic fundamentalists and not European Jews.

That right there is when Maryland stopped becoming the south. Even northern Virginia isn't the south. Any more

That west va story is kinda funny though

Maryland was occupied by Union forces and its "wrong" legistlators found themselves in jail.

Kentucky's elections were tampered by the Union Occupation Commander, many legislators, judges, and even the Lieutenant Governor were imprisoned.

I don't know much about Missouri's role in it, but I think they were also reigned in via coercion.

>pls, America. divide yourselves so Russia can attack the world
Not happening.

>Even northern Virginia isn't the south. Any more

It will be again once we start shipping Carpetbaggers to Andersonvillewitz and turn them into fertilizer.

Catalonia is more likely to become independent than the Basques.

>An army of nearly three million men, the largest and most intrusive security apparatus in existence, and common identity. The latter of which would completely disintegrate in a civil war along with the first two if the government collapses.
That's a fucking lie. A small fraction of the American population can easily pull off a rebellion. I already dismissed the idea that it's sheer force holding it together, it's something else and not "common identity," as if we're not an empire.

Wow, that pseudologic. Roman empire took six-hundred years to collapse after the Punic Wars, spanning a multitude of different ethnicities, languages, and religions. China never collapsed despite exceeding the US in size multiple times through its history.

What you said can't even be argued with because not only does it not have any supporting evidence, but it's even intuitively wrong. That's how misguided you are.

>yes, Russia is the enemy. We should bomb Russia, those evil goyim
Fuck off boomer

Alaska is rightful Russian clay.

What the hell do mormons have in common with Catholics? Northerners and southoners? The Rocky Mountains and the Great Plains?

There will always be rivalries between different parts of a country. But it's not like America. As much as I love this country, it's a monstrosity. A country this big isn't supposed to last. China should have broken up already. I'm not sure why they haven't.

The south has been gone for decades; it's rittled with meth, mudsharks, fake christians, the lowest tier black American's and statists

>wanting any of those states

Missouri Kentucky and Maryland are shit poor with nothing of value and West Virginia only exists because of anti confederates and so would just be a force of enemies within your walls

>Mid Atlantic trash in new England
Fuck off outta here

Yeah? So what about all those illegals and refugees we've been taking in?

Idaho should be part of Deseret. Nevada is a stretch desu. Texas should be alone and Cascadia is a retarded pipe dream. Washington and Oregon are liberal as fuck and would either form some uber leftist nation or just merge with California. Idk why Arizona is independent northern AZ should be Deseret and the rest could be pieced out to TX and California.

>A small fraction of the American population can easily pull off a rebellion.

Aye, but getting that rebellion off the ground is vastly more difficult when the NSA is reading all forms of online communication and the FBI regularly set up honeypots for potential revolutionaries.

>it's something else and not "common identity," as if we're not an empire

Ask anyone from any part of the country what he/she identifies as, and there's a 99% chance you're going to get "American" as the answer. There's still a sense of national identity, albeit one that grows more and more strained by the day.

> wanting niggers from the east nig nogging all over your divine land
> wanting beaners from the west bean bagging all over your divine land

Wtf man. Texas would cut off its lower south half and ally with OK, the midwest, great Plains, and even as far north as Alberta. Houston would be the busiest city in the world

>Russia has been the enemy for 100 years
>They're good now
>trust me they pay me shekels to say this online

>Pls America focus on illegals and let Russia be evil
Weak shill argument.

>limited access to deep water ports directly on the ocean that don't freeze over in winter
Doomed from the start.

>Maryland
>poor
Wanna try again?
It's just Baltimore(niggers lol) that brings us to even that low.
Poverty rate was at 24% in 2014 lol nigs gon nog

the US wont balkanize

>e immanent Balkanization of America

>not largely libertarian ethnostates

fuck off, retard

>he isn't a complete fucking retard like me, he must be a shill
Kekistani logic. Why are Russia so evil then, you little boomer cuck?

There will be no imminent balkanisation. It has to be supported by the groups that support it and sadly there is no large Cascadian, Southern, New Englander, Atzlan or Black independence movements.

They exist, but they're heavily fringe.