Red pill me on MS 13

who are they? is this soros trying to undermine the US?

mexican gang that was a bigger deal in the 90s and is now being used as an excuse to deport mexicans which i am all for

>mexican

They're Morrissey's groupies

soros and satanic gangs

Salvadorian ex para militares that the Mexican/American government use to subvert satanic drug trade into their countries.

MS13 are not the cholos and cholas from Mexico. They are from El Salvador. The worst country in the world.

Kek

they are an unwanted by product of the CIA who tried to destabilize south American countries.

just like the Taliban,, trained, funded and set up by the US in the 1970s/80s to wreck the soviet invaders.

Some as with the Taliban it totally got out of control and is not hurting American interests

>In the 80's there was a proxy armed conflict between the US and the Soviets in El Salvador.
>Communist guerrillas would blow up bridges and plant bombs in busy markets to kill as many people as possible. After that CIA trained and financed "anti-terrorists" would walk in and capture random civilians that happened to be around.
>In this pandemonium many salvadorans, specially from low-income homes emigrated to the US, specifically to big cities.
>When they arrived, nice suburban houses were impossible to afford, so they were forced to settle in literal ghettos.
>Mexicans and Blacks would insult, beat, blackmail and intimidate salvadorans since day 1.
>Salvadorans were few in numbers, so the only way they could outplay and subdue blacks and mexicans was by being more violent and scary.
>MS13 was born.

>shitskins from central america literally had NO CHOICE but to come to America and become violent criminals
>it's not their fault they are in the US being violent criminals, it's da gringos fault!
God I hate you people so much. I can't wait until you are all liquidated in camps.

What I find suspicious is how in the 90's when gangs were relatively just a bunch of deportees literally getting genocided by average people, the (((American Embassy))) cried in pain 24/7 until the government jailed the "human rights violators" (civilians) and gave "more opportunities" (money) to gangs.

Wannabe gangsters. They tattoo their face to look intimidating. They don't hold a candle to Mexican cartels

ms13 is one better than ms12

>MS13 was born and bred in America
>"Omg we literally have nothing to do!"
Delusions

Ms baker's dozen.

Who would win, the ms13 niggers or the mexinigger mafia?

>walk in and capture random civilians that happened to be around.
oh fuck off, the US financed the military. The right wing death squads were financed by the upper class in order to avoid going through an agrarian reform.

They killed relatively few people too, all of them targeted.

Mexican mafia pushes drugs in socal. MS 13 chop your fucking head off with a machete.

the mexicans, but it would suck to be them.

if we don't close down the fucking border soon it is going to suck to be us. the MS13 is batshit insane

Yes this man speaks truth downtown LA the 80s it's still the same now but in NY with Dominicans and other European and sandy nigger/bigger immigrant groups. The only reason NY is still majority white is because most the Europeans that come to the US usually settle in NY.

They're central American trash, but for some reason most Americans still think every Spic is from Mexico. They're mostly all Squatamalans and degenerate midges from other shitholes like El Salvador.
Any location with Spic populations will have a huge contingent of these fags.

Protip: These gangs bully the fuck out of actual Mexicans. Mexicans are soft as fuck, and the cartels themselves aren't majority Mexicans.

The most dangerous cartel the Sinaloa is Mexican.

> Sinaloa is Mexican.
Aside from all the near starving to death 5 foot tall Colombians who do their dirty work.

the gangs that started in the 90's are not comparable to the slum complexes they run in El Salvador now

its a gang you arent allowed to leave because its a "family"

prisons are full of them and they conduct criminal business while inside of them

>Pre-1992 Salvadoran Military and Death Squads were not the same.
>Relatively few people died, all of them targeted
Any poor person was automatically was a "potential communist" in the mind of the retards graduated from the School of the Americas, thus eligible for a "targeted death".
Also the more "communists" they would suppress, the more american money they could justify.
Same thing applies to the leaders of the communists, who would often vacation for months in Cuba, Vietnam and Russia after a "successful operation against oligarchs!" (Blowing up farmers selling eggs at the towns market).

80,000 Salvadorans died and dozens of thousands ended disabled for life. Considering that back then the population was 4.2 Million people, that isn't "relatively few".

And what allowed these 90's gangs to grow into the "slum complexes" that they are today?

A local Los Angeles gang that metastasized like a cancer after we deported it's member to El Salvador. Obviously 30 years later we're trying to deport them again because if it doesn't work the first time try try again

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> Anonymous (ID: VcsQjo5l) 07/30/17(Sun)17:19:02 No.135577041▶
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>>Pre-1992 Salvadoran Military and Death Squads were not the same.
>>Relatively few people died, all of them targeted
>Any poor person was automatically was a "potential communist" in the mind of the retards graduated from the School of the Americas, thus eligible for a "targeted death".
>Also the more "communists" they would suppress, the more american money they could justify.
>Same thing applies to the leaders of the communists, who would often vacation for months in Cuba, Vietnam and Russia after a "successful operation against oligarchs!" (Blowing up farmers selling eggs at the towns market).
>80,000 Salvadorans died and dozens of thousands ended disabled for life. Considering that back then the population was 4.2 Million people, that isn't "relatively few".

Reagan was willing to use scorched earth tactics to prevent the Soviets from turning central America into another Cuba.

And it worked. Russians got BTFO

Some gang from El Salvador

>tfw no mexican latina gang gf to rape you

>scorched earth tactics prevented the soviets from turning central america into another cuba
Yeah surely shooting your mom and beating the shit out of you, will teach you not to be a communist.

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After the peace accords the economy started to expand rapidly for about 6 to 7 years, several state companies were privatized in order to pay for infrastructure reconstruction, etc.

By the late 90's to early 00's the economy had stagnated again and by this point gangs were beginning to be a problem, the most violent leaders still lived in the US at that time. The government had a series of organized crime crackdowns called "Mano Dura" (literally: hard hand) which were promptly boycotted by the leftist opposition for years.

See, at this time Latin America as a whole was going into a commodity boom and the US was still feeling the afterglow of the 90's and had money to burn through the early phases of the war on terror. Nobody took the gangs seriously at first, the common attitude by the international organizations like the UN (politicians in El Salvador grovel for UN validation like no other place in the world) was that gangbangers were "poor kids yearning for love", similar to the propaganda about "children in peril" for dindu youths in the US.

"Repression" another trigger word in El Salvador, was often used to refer to arresting gang members, by the time the leftist party won in 2009 the murder rate was at an all time high, so he offered to "take it easy" and negotiate a "truce" supposedly between the government, and both major gangs, 2 years later the murder rate had doubled from the previous all time high and the total dead per year became as bad as some of the years during the war.

yeah, that's bullshit bro. The death squads became obsolete after the war actually started and through their whole run within the 70's up through the 80's they killed 4,000 people

you're conflating all of the dead in the war to deaths by the deaths squads, how disingenuous can you get?

>country has been a murder-ridden shithole for decades with no US influence
>still blames muh americans

Yep, confirmed third worlder

Ok fair enough.

MS 13 are underprivileged and act out sometimes but you need to love them. Just like you love all humans. We are a secular humanist society after all.

I was in the bay area recently for a meeting with my fellow globalists led by Mark Zuckerberg. Dozens of bay area police have been convicted of sleeping with the dispatcher's daughter, child pornography, drug dealing, weapon smuggling, rape, murdering their wife and trying to make it look like a suicide. But that doesn't mean you should view police with suspicion. No. We need police and that automatically makes them good people.

the murder rate was actually pretty standard before the war started.

El Salvador got a lot of accolades because after the peace accords, the war stopped immediately, which apparently is unheard of. Instead, the UN kept prodding into security affairs to prevent the police and military to get too "repressive". The result is that 20 years later it was impossible to arrest a druggie and between a few of them they could take over a neighborhood, then they started getting violent to prevent other druggies from taking their territory, etc.

Basically, the government pussied out of doing their job because of UN and leftist influence. Ironically the left won the last few elections and the murder rate has never been worse... who knew amirite??

>Mexican

First word and you already fucked up

MS13 works for the Mexican Mafia

That's what 13 stands for

>Le FUCKING BASED mano dura
>Watchaout commies hehe
"Mano dura" and "Super mano dura" were literal memes.
The president (who happens to be currently in jail for stealing over $200M) simply asked the media to stop publishing death tolls while pretending everything was alright.

What you mention about the UN and international "human rights" NGO's portraying the gangs as "troubled youth" is right.
I was a kid back then, but I remember the disgust in my father's face when the General Prosecutor of Human Rights, an italian-born woman called Beatrice de Carrillo, wouldn't shut up about how gangs were "The children of El Salvador".

About death squads, you didn't understand my point. They didn't cause those casualties, but they did exacerbate the problem, which eventually lead to those casualties.
There were literal psychos in the LPL and PCE such as Sanchez Ceren and Mayo Sibrian, who had zero skills and talents to make a living by themselves, so forming a terrorist group was a great opportunity.
But the bulk of these guerrillas were pretty much delusional students and normal people who in one way or another had been affected by "anti-communist" policies.

Think about it in the same way right-wing-ism is in the rise in the US thanks to the Left pushing their agenda. The more they push, the more people sympathetic with the right.
In the same way, the more School of the Americas trained military beat up and "interrogated" random farmers, the more would say "Well fuck them".

Later, once they joined the communist groups, the romanticized bubble would quickly pop, because they'd experience even more violence from their "comandantes". Once in you can't get out.


>country has been a murder-ridden shithole for decades with no US influence
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