The Jew won

lets be honest Ben shapiro won , what do you guys think?

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Ben lost because he let Cenk highlight the hypocrisy of the neocon conservatives and their retarded foreign policy.

>linking The Young Turks youtube
Hooktubed that for you so they don't get views

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true he should of never defended the neo cons

Won what?

That wasn't even moderated they just talked back and forth between 4 to 6 issues at a time, hard enough to follow which point was being argued.

And Cenk or w/e with his yelling was just bizzare, looked like he was looking for sound bites. Loved the part when he insulted the audience and said at least 3 times that people should Google his fucking debate points instead of him being able to describe them, the guy is a fuckin whackjob.

did you see that when Ben was criticizing and agreeing with Cenk, or when Cenk was trying to appeal to the audience instead presenting his actual knowledge on what he was talking about.

*criticizing Republicans

Who fuckin cares. Ben Shapiro is a cohenservative.

I'm left-leaning, but Shapiro was the clear winner. I was confident that would be the case going into it. Only main issues I agreed with Cenk on were universal healthcare and money in politics. As usual, Cenk let his emotions get to him, calling out the audience, pandering to identity politics BS, and misrepresenting Ben's points.

Shapiro winning against Cenk in a political debate is like a greyhound winning against a cup of mustard in a race. Eh, sure, celebrate it if you want but the debate shouldn't have happened in the first place. Cenk is an idiot, and how anyone still takes him seriously is beyond me.

A Shapiro vs. Harris debate would be much better.

Chunk is a retard but he got to face the typical establishment (((conservative))), Ben tried to claim a libertarian stance and then defend shit like the Iraq war.

really? ok let s go
H.W BUSH BOMBS IRAQ
BUSH BOMBS YUGOSLAVIA
BUSH JUNIOR INVADES AFGHANISTAN AND IRAQ
OBAMA DOESN T BOMB ANYONE BUT very close to invade syria ( only russia prevented it )

tell me again who controlls the united states , cause for sure the president doesn t

>money in politics

This was bizzare. Ben had a great point about TYT "kissings Biernies ass" all election. Which one matters more? Money or the fact that TYT spent hours agreeing with Bernie? Obviously the fact that the gave him so much coverage is better for the campaign than the money.

Coverage of a politician, to me, is the same as giving them a 10million dollar cheque as exposure wins presidencies not always the money spent. So Cenk was wrong, if Cenk disagrees with million of money going to politicians then he should also disagree with shilling.

Thank you for your service

he defends the iraq war cause he is a fucking kike , and it s in the greatest ally intrest to destroy iraq , syria and lebanon

Ben is 5'4" and Cenk is only 5'7", both are losers but in this case Cenk won by 3"

sorry not bush i meant to say CLINTON

Shapiro thoroughly convinced me how idiotic libertarianism is. Cenk was actually more convincing.

Dumb socialist. Kill yourself kike lover.

He's the best debater around.

>one idea you disagree with
>"OMG KIKE BTFO BY ROACH"

Ben humiliated Cenk.

I never heard him defend the Iraq war, and besides, military spending takes up over 1/2 the budget (backbone of the economy)... so what the military industrial complex does is an easy out for both sides.

>Chunk is a retard but he got to face the typical establishment (((conservative)))
Ben is hyper capitalistic, seeing that the Republicans can't even seem to knock down Obama Care and they put Trump in office (who Shapiro was firmly against) it's a bit of mischaracterization to call him "typical".

Besides, they literally stayed in Ben's weakest arena but his most ideological arena.

>we should tolerate crackheads because muh individual liberty
Our little experiment in liberty failed. Civilization is collapsing, morality is crumbling, integrity is absent, character is anachronistic. Mankind needs strong leadership. If left to their own devices they will eat each other alive.

Me and my based black friend (who owns a MAGA hat) are working on a Thug Life video as we speak! Praise kek!

>Libertarianism
>Shapiro
He's just a neocon

Because that's what democrats and leftists have done for a decade and been successful on until Trump ended that narrative, paint the right wing as a party of hypocrites instead of arguing on the platform and strong small government ideas. Chunk didn't need to refute the points made by Shapiro because he could just point to the hypocrisy of leading big government wars of aggression that Shapiro supports.

>I never heard him defend the Iraq war
Shapiro has always been a strong interventionist neocon and when chunk called him out on supporting big government wars he only pointed out how the war was cheaper than some government welfare programs.
>the backbone of our economy is big government
See right there you show why chunk won, because you're saying that the economy needs taxation and government spending to flourish.

There's barely much difference between the two, they both share similar economic and social policies.

Always bet on the jew when facing a roach.

He destroyed Cenk.

I just dont like the fact how he made a false equivalency towards white nationalism and leftist identity politics.

White nationalism is necessary and the most logical conclusion to saving western civilization.

>Shapiro has always been a strong interventionist neocon and when chunk called him out on supporting big government wars he only pointed out how the war was cheaper than some government welfare programs.
But you understand that's the truth...


>See right there you show why chunk won, because you're saying that the economy needs taxation and government spending to flourish.
I didn't say that I'm merely stating the fact. I don't think you can equate cyclical spending of the military to things the "left" preaches that tax dollars go to meaning, military research/spending usually results in some private sector contracts and general economic movement as opposed to the "rationing" of healthcare and drop in quality in quality that would result in a public health care situation.

If anyone is wondering this girls name is Courtney Tailor

You're defending a government controlled economy through subsidizing arms manufacturers. Tax and war drives that type of economy and the government picks the winners and losers in the business community with incredible waste and inefficiency via corruption and incompetence, that type of economy is no different than that of a government run healthcare system where the government decides the winners and losers in the healthcare industry. They're both big government run economic policies where there's no free market and war and taxation is encouraged.

You think other aircraft manufacturers are in a a healthy market when companies like Boeing and their trillion dollar government subsidies mean they don't have to worry about competing on a level playing field?

Ben Shapiro has been on fire the last couple of months. He's really impressing me. Shapiro 2024 would be interesting.

>youtube.com/watch?v=3MX0VCOJNeo

>You're defending a government controlled economy through subsidizing arms manufacturers.
No I'm saying they have their purpose, the fact that America is/needs to be the world police is something that is development through happenstance as opposed to the government agreeing with the rest of the world that we'd be the police. This being the fact, why not take advantage of it the best way we can.

>Tax and war drives that type of economy and the government picks the winners and losers in the business community
Contracts are literally bidded on... just like in the private sector.

>incredible waste and inefficiency via corruption and incompetence
agreed, these companies are a fucking joke when it comes to efficiency and bureaucratic bullshit.

>that type of economy is no different than that of a government run healthcare system where the government decides the winners and losers in the healthcare industry.
it's completely different, the government has a responsibility to main a defense, not to your/our health care.

>companies like Boeing and their trillion dollar government subsidies mean they don't have to worry about competing on a level playing field?
What companies do you think have the edge leading capabilities to make these products, AND the government trust them enough not to sell secrets, spy, etc. Only a handful in the world, BAE is British and is one of the nation's largest Military contractors.

>defended the illegal Irak war
>justified legalized bribes from banks and corporations to politicians


he lost, not because he's bad, but because his ideas are bad.

>This being the fact, why not take advantage of it the best way we can.

Because it's a form of welfare and it costs money you retard. Why not pay for another form of welfare with that money?

Or why not just privatize the military?

Of course Ben won, Chunk's a fucking retard.

Don't talk to me or my wife's son ever again

By the way that was a sarcastic response. If you can't understand that the gibme program insensitive and demotivate populations then you need to hang around Sup Forums a little longer.

>Why not pay for another form of welfare with that money?
Like what?

Honestly I don't want Americans to have universal health care and I want the US government to get rid of Medicare.

Universal health care works in keeping people alive, I don't think universal health care should be done in America.

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Cenk won senpai, but Cenk's debate skills are absolute shit and he's not as fast as Shapiro. Half the time he wasnt even listening to what was said and just tried to get his talking points in. Also he's generally cringy, tried and failed to start a USA chant and get the crowd going over MUH RIGHTS, GOVERNMENT OUTTA MUH UTERUS, etc

That said Shapiro sounded like a full blown no touch snek libertarian, he was ultimately wrong about most of his points and if cenk had just listened he could have easily refuted them. Also got cornered into defending banks, corporations and donor money in government.

Of course Ben won. He's a fucking kike. Kikes are great at debates. It also doesn't help that they pit him against some fat fuck from Youtube who's most likely used to getting his info from wikipedia while he's on the air.

The Jew always wins in the end. Stay mad, goyim.

Were we watching the same debate, Shapiro wiped the floor with Cenk.

>Also got cornered into defending banks, corporations and donor money in government.
and they showing the hypocrisy of Cenk and TYT.

>tried and failed to start a USA chant
why completely railing against American ideals...

Cenk is a fucking joke, a second grader with a month to prepare could have beat him.

He's taking the piss with you. The Hebrew Hammer/Shoah Slammer was a clear victor in this battle.

Chank Hooker lost his ass.
Insulting elitist piece of turkroach shit. He needs to go powder his vagina now.

This. Ive disarmed a lot of lefties by trashing the GOP too. They never expect it.

cenk lost because he was trying to please the audience

Oh.

>He's taking the piss with you
You limey Brit, nation flag post faggot, it scares the MSM when they come around and see a bunch of different people from different countries agreeing.

Bo it's okay to give them a view. Just leave a comment saying Cenk got clobbered.

Pretty much this. The alt white are just as bad as the BLM blacks.

He wiped the floor because that young cuck is still busy licking Hillary's boots.

Liberals are retarded.

They are also traitors and should be shot.

You know Cuba has universal healthcare, why not move to Cuba?

Scott BTFO Sam. Sam is dumber then cenk, people just like Sam because he says I don't believe in god thus this makes me smart.

Military spending does not take half off our budget. Even political says that is false.

As of now military spending takes up 15 percent, and yea I would love to decrease that.

White nationalist is a joke. Why did Germany lose WW2 then?

Universal healthcare is a joke. Now that Germany is having immigration problem like we have had since the 80s you will see why it doesn't work.

>Scott BTFO Sam
Really? Didn't get that vibe really. Both did well, but I wouldn't say it that clear. I don't know.

Because Winston Churchill sold his soul to the Jews.

I don't know.
80% of you guys believed Trump won the debates (somehow). I'm taking everything with a pound of salt.

This

That's just completely wrong.

>Military budget of the United States. ... The budget funds 4 branches of the U.S. military: the Army, Marine Corps, Navy, and Air Force. In FY 2015, Pentagon and related spending totaled $598 billion, about 54% of the fiscal year 2015 U.S. discretionary budget.

>google

Sam lost 45 min in. He contradicted himself so much and displayed his stupidity.

The guy doesn't this the NSA doesn't spy on you and he trust intelligence. Yea last time we trusted intelligence we ended up on Iraq.

Because hitler wanted to pick a fight with the vodka horde even though his generals warned him not to

But whites should have been smarter? What happened to muh whites all overall better?

The majority of government spending 72% is on entitlements. Of the remaining bloc of spending known as discretionary spending, the majority of that is military spending.

Trump lost all the debates, he had great one liners though.

(((Ben "Big Banks Rock" Shapiro))) got ripped a new one by a fat turk roach.

Let this be a lesson for all you cucks who allow kikes (((Civic Nationalist))) like (((Ben "Fuck White America" Shapiro))) to speak on your behalf. With Jews you lose.

-=- Daily Reminder -=-
(((Ben Shapiro))) supports the end of whites in America.

"And by the way, I don't give a good damn about the so-called "browning of America." Color doesn't matter. Ideology does."

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A slow Bogdanov transition?

Google the total spending, your data is wrong.

You are looking at Discretionary spending.

Exactly, not the smart.

I know, that is what I said.

probably someone already cracked it but :
OF COOOOUSE!

The big difference between this debate and Cenk's previous debates is the demographics of the audience. Normally the entire audience is Cenk's TYT audience, this time you could tell the booing really flustered him.

if you defeat your enemies you lose?

Hey so I'm 5'9" and saw this and laughed like, yeah well at least I'm not female. Can someone explain to me the psychology behind how leftists are so easily offended by similarly innocuous things?

When you attack the audience or stutter you lose. You really did hit the nail on the head.

Because they have nothing else to fall back on.

I mean 90 percent of antifa lives with their parents. If you are 5"11 with a good job and have other things going for you then you will be happy.

>this retarded foreign policy is all the neocon conservatives
>lots of democrats supported the Iraq war including Hillary and Obama
>oops

Plus what about Afghanistan? Would you have never gone there either, after 9/11? Would you never retaliate or remove kebab using our glorious military because you're a giant faggot and would instead use that money to give everybody shit medicare that they have to wait 6 months to use and send all kinds of stupid niggers to the indoctrination centers formerly known as colleges so they can get a worthless degree they didn't earn on taxpayer money?

The Iraq war is a complicated issue, and we did a lot of good there and Hussein was a fucking psycho murderer. You fucking morons love to generalize it into one sentence that you think you can use to whip people up and insta-win a debate without anyone questioning you, since whenever you're questioned, your fucking bullshit falls apart.

O-o...

O-ok...ok

H-hey

Oh don't forget Iran. The archenemy

Ben is a jewish zog neocon but he still won. He brought down the hammer on silly old communist Cenk. Fucking TYT needs to be shut down

AHAHHAHAHAHA

Get the fuck off this board lefty, you are not welcome

I'll defend the Iraq war, especially against you idiots, because you never have any real arguments against it except for the CNN cock you've been trained to love guzzling for a decade.

lefty roach vs backstabbing kike
we didn't have a dog in that race, so who cares.

He poo'd in his loo

Iran makes me laugh because the democrats went 2 steps back with Iran with those sanctions they just did. Omfg how dumb is the American congress.

Iraq was a CIA lie. I agree with ben on most issues but his American should be the police of the world and drug war stance.

That's not how you score a debate, dumbass.

He is a Turk, which is worse.

god bless you

88% believe Ben won by politicon poll
twitter.com/Politicon/status/891826485085978624

*waves crusty hand*
The genocide never happened
*Coughs blood*

>Crawls back into dark corner

Of course Ben won, cenk attacked the audience ha.

I love how the left projects so much. For example he says trump has a bad tempoment but he is way worse.

>short guys should be hanged
Fucking brutal. I'm 5'11'' legit (barefoot, 180cm/71in armspan) and seems like half the people shorter than me claim to be 6ft tall. Slits have made "height inflation" a legit male psychosis.

Big government doesnt only mean reduces expenditures. It means focusing the government on legitimate areas and not letting it infiltrate every aspect of a citizens life. National defense is one of those legitimate areas.

I am 6"3 and happy as fuck, so I don't understand the shot person problem.

I would hate to be taller than 6"7.

Remember how he was saying Ana won because the audience Cheered so much