Can slavery ever work, or is it an unsustainable concept?

Can slavery ever work, or is it an unsustainable concept?

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Modern slavery is about having slaves but them not understanding it i.e not showing it in a obvious way.

both, duh.

It is an inherently economically damaging system.
it destroys the economy of those who participate in it for the same reason letting the niggers and spics do the work you don't wasn't to do. Restricting their rights doesn't reduce the damage slavery does to jobs. it would be better to exterminate than enslave.

check slavery during the Roman Empire, it worked really well

I think slavery is a thing that would go on for generations but I don't think many people would agree Nor allow it in our day and age.

only if we get rid of current capitalist system.
ironically enough the evolution of capitalism freed the slaves, so the market could grow.

Slavery is present in modern day society. Slaves to debt, taxes and fees. While the Zuckerbergs are out there funding groups to change our way of life to a Marxist paradise. Sorry, we reject Marxism. We toss you into a desk job and slave away to give the government $.

wage cucks today are alot like slaves in roman times

It works quite well as long as you diversify them by ethnicity. If not they'll be able to develope philia and turn against their masters.

Why would you want slaves when machines can do the same work but better

especially in Pompeii
rather than prison a convict would become a slave and could work off the crime and potentially have slaves for himself later

Old time slavery meant keeping them doing one job and providing them a place to sleep and food to eat.

Modern slavery is you pay them enough to afford a place to sleep and food to eat, and you don't care if they leave the job because there are countless others willing to do the same job.

It damages innovation which damages long term economic prospects.

If you live under a usury system, you are a slave, unless you own the usury system.

Just remove empathy for the enslaved.

slavery with subhumans is very overrated and always ends up with them integrating their dna into the gene pool eventually. anyone who supports any stance that involves nonwhites living on earth is a faggot and needs to lurk more

I can't into industrial revolution?

as long as retarded white boys like this arent in charge, sure. the difference is that jews are actually capable of thought and can keep slaves under control without having a fucking autism attack and murdering each other for the rights of mindless, soulless goyim (much like whites did during the american civil war).

>machines can do the same work
They can't

>only the whip can civilise the black

No, slavery is a morally abhorrent act.
Indentured servitude on the other hand could absolutely work.

It can't, trying to make someone do work they have no incentives doing hardly ever produces good results. It was only an option when mechanical tools weren't available and throwing bodies at a task was the only way to complete large scale jobs. It also stunts technological and economical innovation since there is no reason to make someone you don't pay work more efficiently.

Wage slavery on the other hand ...

those ain't black people hands.
those are honkey hands with dark stains on them.
everybody knows their palms and soles of their feet are lighter colored because of the way they stand when they spray paint them.

yeah i bet you think usury could work too you fucking kike

You didn't actually address any point made by the people you quoted.

Technology is a multiplier, a motivated worker equipped with mechanical tools will be much more productive than a bunch of slaves.

It works better with a mixed breed, low IQ populace that fears conflict.

Not an argument

Yes it can work,

>go to holiday
>nigger working there getting $10 per hour no benefits
>Go to taco bell
>nigger getting paid $10 per hour
>go to car wash
>Niggers and spics wash my car for $10 per hour even though they may never own a car

Wage cucking is literal slavery

not a non-fallacy

yeah but just look at how diverse we are because of it. dont you love having nonwhites participate in your society?

>It works and its natural instinct.

Would genetically engineered catgirls for domestic ownership be considered slavery?

that wasnt the point of my post you mongoloid. why do you think you deserve to exist if your only thoughts are memes?

Slavery does work. The issue with slavery is that it's immoral to force people to work under threat of death or corporal punishment.

>white boys
are you a nigger or do you just enjoy speaking like one?

you look upset my friend, why you are so salty?

minimal wage keeps them complacent and costs almost nothing

It works well if the slaves are niggers. They are good at physical work. They even have big peens so farmers can more easily breed them like they do to cattle.

Even my country was rich once due to slavery.
Slavery is life!

no i just like triggering little whiny faggots like you. you try to pretend that it doesnt hurt but i know you just had a mini-anxiety attack over seeing that post, which is why you felt compelled to respond.

It's free labor, what's not to like?

It can but only if you wipe out all Libshits and anyone who is remotely sympathetic to slaves.

Best to just kill off all shitskins and use automation instead.

If we have a race tomorrow, and we end up winning, they must all be killed off. We cannot risk another civil war in the future and allow history to repeat itself.

It works, but it's unsustainable on the long run.

>It works and its natural instinct.
It's indeed quite natural for human beings to use other human beings as slaves. Long history of slavery everywhere.

Unsustainable because slavery forgets human beings starve for freedom. Therefore, they tend to do whatever possible to get free.
Slavery is also risky for homogeneous societies. As economy growths, more slaves are needed, to the point they become majority.
Moreover, a slavery driven economy would never stand competitors' attacks, as they'd do anything possible to avoid such unfair competition.

Besides, a slave actually cost more than a modern low wage worker. Owner had to provide food and housing to slaves. A low-wage worker can't even afford decent housing and meals nowadays.

It also held them back. If not for slavery, Rome would have the industrial revolution. There was no incentive for machine tools though, because they had slave labor.

I'm against slavery. Not for any moral reasons, but because it disincentivizes the advancement of technology.

It worked for 90% of world history and is still working today.

It can more or less work but it has a major problem:
> Slaves do not invent anything because there is no incentive for them to perform tasks in a more efficient manner
> Masters do not invent anything because they are not the ones doing the actual work

Something similar happens in socialism

Free societies invent much more because, in them, whoever invents something useful gets whatever profit the invention must yield right away.

> A nigger on a plantation may go all his life doing shit the same way.
> A farm owner will find technical ways to produce more than the nigger, because he gets to keep all the profit
> A socialist farmer won't improve shit because he gets to starve anyway

he's a jew obviously

I thought this was a monkey paw thread

Why is technology necessary if you have slavery? What you're saying is essentially "abundant fruit trees and wildlife disincentivize farming".

Singapore did well...

>What you're saying is essentially "abundant fruit trees and wildlife disincentivize farming"
That's an excuse people use for why nigger can't into civilization.

Slavery ignores the basic laws of supply and demand.
Besides that, who would want to be responsible for the entire lives of those who perform work for you? Far better to pay a wage and let them handle all the issues of shelter, food, transportation, healthcare, etc.

Yes, but we're already white so that's taken care of.

>Slavery ignores the basic laws of supply and demand.
If they can be ignored, are they laws?

Slavery got abolished cause its cost inefficient.
As a slave owner you have to pay food, housing, guards, medical etc. . As industrialiaztion grew, it turned out to be cheaper to kick the niggers out and just hire workers with regular pay for the job.

This fairy tale from the civil war "to free the slaves" shouldnt be taken too seriously. After the war they painted it in that direction but eventually it was already unprofitable to own slaves years before the war. It was just the final nail in the coffin.

It'll never work when about half the population are pussy liberal-minded people. And during good times there are even more pussies who will inevitably fight for the slaves to be free.

I can only work if times are bad, like during war or if the powers that be can maintain a constant regressive state. Slavery would work well under ISIS.

Automation can only go so far when it comes to farming, depending on the crops/fruit.

Thats why even portugal have Iraquis, brazilians and taiwandese working in the fields. Sometimes you simply cannot use machines, otherwise the fruit gets damaged. Depends.

Roman technology still improved even with slavery, first link is one example of neurosurgery in the II cent. Roman slavery was different from the moder one, read the second

himetop.wikidot.com/the-child-of-fidene

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_ancient_Rome

You'll get more done paying Asians 50 cents a day than hoping a black man produces anything at all.

Recalls me the 16bits computers and music/movie majors reactions.
No fear, such pixelized graphics and shitty noises can't become a serious threat.
Automation, robots and AI will replace 80% of the workforce.

Slavery is pretty useless. You can easily use automated machines to do what ever menial work the slaves were meant to do, and still pay less much in maintenance for the machines than you would for the slaves (food, housing, medicine, teaching). Well, you can use them as builders, i assume (Saudi Arabia does this) since machines can't to that yet, but that will likely change, too.

With the exception of building large and complex buildings, Slavery is only useful if you
a) want to degrade a group of people that you dislike
b) come from a shithole of a country with barely any technology and infrastructure, and get get shit done anyway because your population consists mainly of inbred barbarians without work ethic.

(Think any Country with Islamic Government)

e.g. americans who works two jobs for a total of 12 hours a day and still can't afford to get their kids a higher education, making them highly unlikely to ever achieve a higher socio-economical status than their parents.

it's basically a caste system run like a casino

It does work and is sustainable, but eventually some cunt will come along and sympathize with them and ruin it all.

Yes. One racial and ethnic culture can enslave different racial and ethnic culture.

>being satisfied where you are
>not constantly seeking new horizons

Sorry to tell you user, but you're not actually white. Grandma must have been taking the BBC.

History buff reporting.

Slavery was a basic building block of Asian and African societies. It was a system which they all "sustained" for millennia before johnny-come-lately Euros thought to give it a try. The ACW just gives ignorant (usually American) SJWs the idea that America's 88yrs of perfectly legal slave holding was somehow "worse" than that practised by Jews, Arabs and the Chinese for thousands of years - even though abolition wasn't passed anywhwere but the US. And without a single black vote!

SJWs seem pretty dumb.

That's a white guys hands with shoe polish and orange paint.
t. anthropology major

I think the problem with olden times slavery is the chains, the whipping, the suffering.

Animals can suffer too, if you beat the shit out of your mule or ox, it will die sooner than others.

The idea for an ideal slavery is the bureaucratic one. AKA, the same one that of which the Gulf states practice. Get immigrant labor from poorer countries, take their passports, pay them just enough to survive the month, suppress any revolt, union or demands for workers rights. It DOES work, you can build stadiums and sky scrapers from here to the end of the Arabian Peninsula... But ...

This creates a problem, your population will become stupid and lazy because they haven't worked a day in their life, nor will they appropriate skilled labor jobs or have the skills in question. In my experience, the youth in Saudi Arabia has no interest in skilled labor because it's hard work, they prefer desk jobs, just like their fathers got used to. There is nothing wrong with wanting to be successful of course. But now when your country goes bankrupt, you will need people to sustain it. You wont be able to afford these slaves because despite how much they get paid, they save up and send it back to their families in Bangladesh. Your economy weakens because the cost of production goes up in the long run.

If there is suffering, there will be redemption. Look at the US, now you are trapped with niggers all around your country, how is working out?
We Arabs has more niggers enslaved then the whole Europeans. But we cautious enough to castrate them, kill them or send them back to Africa for the most part. You trusted the rich because paying for cheaper cotton was more important. Keep buying made in China then.

Slavery makes a lot of your own population redundant, and they will seek to go work at a place where they are needed. And you don't want your own population fleeting their own nation.

You don't want to be a foreigner nor do you want foreigners.

12hr shifts are the norm for people who want to make any progress on my island you cunt

Leopold 2 did nothing wrong ,
He wuz a good boy

It's a very efficient system.

Depends on how you economy looks like.
1. In a rural economy with huge plantations or unmechanised mining its ideal.
2. In a service, rural with small farms or industrial economy, its unneccessary or even counterproductive over a longer period of time. An exception is a war economy, which is in most cases middle-term.

>The idea for an ideal slavery is the bureaucratic one.

Kind of how the Democratic party is able to farm the black vote by keeping them complacent with white-guilt sympathy, food stamps and section eight housing?

Solid post though.

Descendant of anti-slavery Confederates here. Let me explain. My people were from South Louisiana, Catholic. Slaveowners from the Carolinas used to ship boatloads of slaves down when it got too cold up there for cotton/indigo, etc. so that the Protestants could rent the slave labor to cut sugar cane. Guess who that put out of work? White people. Slavery was bullshit and it was as bad for whites as for blacks. It depresses the labor market and kept poor whites poor. HOWEVER, it was a problem that the abolitionists could have solved by simply buying slaves from owners at market value and freeing them, as was done in Brazil. Threatening to ruin the economy and steal people's property investments from them was wrong.

Long story short: Slavery sucks, but meddling Yankees suck worse.

Humans don't make good slaves, period

We're too damn resourceful and restless

Yea, if you view them as people.

Did you know that during slavery the slaves received 80% or more of their productivity. It just wasn't in the form of currency but in food and shelter. That's a better return than we get as free men

Sheeeeiit
>WE

thats saying that niggers are human tho..

>Can slavery ever work, or is it an unsustainable concept?
The fuck are you talking about? It worked for MILLENNIA. The only thing that changed it was whites' superior inventive abilities. Slaves aren't needed anymore in first-world nations. (Again, all thanks to whites.)

slavery is how timeless beings with foresight get a culture to mass import unintegratable peoples into their lands. theyve done it for 1000s of years

do not import foreigners under any circumstance