You know this be true

calexit need to happen in order for MURRICA to be fix

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sfchronicle.com/politics/article/California-s-400-billion-debt-worries-analysts-6812264.php
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If you support this you should be underage b&
We cant just let go of a nuclear submarine deep water port like that

California has a lot of rural and suburban retards though. Might be better if the state was split first. To get the libtards as concentrated as possible.
The terrain would be leased to the US, like they do for military bases in foreign countries.

Yes. But I don't want to lose my american citizenship and I kind of also want to stay in Cali for economic reasons.

Why not, who are we going to nuke? You don't think the government would love to throw 500 billion on a new base in Oregon or Washington?

> implying Oregon & Washington wouldn't exit with Cali if California exited

You fuckers really can't afford to lose the west coast

bump

Nah, we keep Cali... Those in Cali who want the exit get a free one way ticket to any country that is not US.

The tanks are going to roll into California if that happens.

Leafs not understanding how the world works.

are you retarded?

this is true we should just genocide all the commies and shitskins and repopulate with aryan

Make California Mexico Again

Only Seattle would want to leave the USA
And they can do it, literally no one else in Washington is like (((them)))

Anyways, it won't happen
If it did it would be shut down almost instantly and the state would be broken up as to lose unity and never be able to cede again

What about all those nuclear plants, military bases/research centers and half the state? This shit really pozzes my shit up.

We'll go but there will be mass deportations of anyone who is out of state. You have no idea how many out of state liberal fags flock here. We don't breed liberals we just attract them. So we're gonna send back your midwestern, southern, and east coast degenerate sons and daughters back.

Says the Chinese sympathizer

If they don't do it the San Andreas fault will do it for them. Not even nature wants them.

>mfw no need for prisons in murrika

forgot pic

I mean what are we really.

Just 1/6 of the entire US population and 1/5 of the Gross Domestic Product. Drop in the bucket.

What do we have to offer. We're just world headquarters to the largest retailer, the world's largest investment bank and the world's largest IT consulting firm and world's largest investment bank.

I mean we don't even manufacture anything! We only import it. In one of our 17 giant ports. 3 of which are the largest in America and each of those twice the size of the 4th largest port in New York. So all we can do is just import stuff like basically everything from China because of our proximity to Asia and our massive trucking and train supplies basically every other store in America but so what America could just buy stuff from Europe at surely the same price.

All we do is tech stuff. How important is that? We only have root access to the world's most popular operating system. And the second. And the third. And the fourth. (Argue amongst yourselves which those are). We only manage 3/5 of America's network traffic and cloud data. What use is that?

It's not like we're alpha. We only have the strongest military bases in America and provide nearly 1/3 the troops.

Yeah. The west coast. What a joke.

Can you fucking stop with that fiction already? You can't leave the Union, and you certainly cant fight your way out of it. Its just not gonna happen. I mean Balkanization of the US is certainly a good thing but it belongs in fantasy realm and in that realm its easier for all non-whites to fucking die so there is no problem to begin with.

Sup Forums's meme army would surely take us down.

Shit what does the west coast know about media?

Im gun fite in da war ov Easturn aggreshun.

California makes a lot of money but also spend a lot more. How they are supposed to pay for social peace when they can't pay the costly social programs?

Socialist countries do that by increasing the intervention of the state in the economy and by devaluation.

You do realize what happened last time a state tried to leave the union?

Reeeee

I think that it's rather that you don't understand the implications if you don't support it.

>Cali tries to leave
>there is no legal way to leave, thus it's literally rebellion
>rest of the US sends the military
>Cali authority purged of communists

>be Cali
>secede
>have 3500 miles of undefended coastline
>immediately get blockaded by US Navy
>get no-fly-zoned by US Air Force
>still have several gigantic Marine Corps and Navy bases on your "sovereign land"

Calexit is literally the most retarded concept in all of US history.

Most businesses would leave because turmoil is not healthy for a business. Also ditching the majority of their consumer base? Not likely. Face it, the West coast is just a cesspool of Mexicans and faggots.

I'm down, let's get it going fuck commiefornians and their disgusting freaks we need to agree now that america does not share commiefornia's values. CALEXIT!

DC dems will never allow their voting base to leave. No matter how many signatures they get.

I want it to happen but, sadly, it never will

california is running a 370 BILLION DOLLAR A YEAR deficit to the federal government.

370. BILLION. A YEAR.

if they exit they have 2 options 1)drop all of your liberal programs and balance your budget 2)end up in poverty within the space of a few years, literal venezuela style POVERTY.

in short, it's not going to happen. this is like the kid that lives at home and is totally financially dependent on mommy and daddy throwing a fit and threatening to run away because they didn't give him enough good boy points to get his chicken tendies. he says he's gonna go run away, but it's sad because he has nowhere to go. maybe he sits down on a park bench somewhere a quarter mile from home. maybe he tries to take a nap. but it's late. it's dark. kinda gettin' cold out. he thought maybe there was a rustling in the bushes. maybe coyotes. he's only gonna last a couple hours tops out there. he's gonna go home to mommy and daddy and his mountain dew, and his doritos, even if his mommy and daddy aren't going to give him his chicken tendies this month

Won't happen, the federal military is too deeply ingrained in this state.

Gimme a source on them juicy numbers, otherwise I do believe you're full of shit.

CA already have the mindset that they are a different country with the way the defy immigration laws. It is inevitable that the current administration will clamp down on this and then CA will be forced to obey or GTFO. The latter (them GTFOing) seems more likely.

lmgtfy.com/

I hope they do it, honestly. Every single military installation in California would remain exactly where it is, an under the United States control. Nothing to lose, but we would gain a guaranteed conservative president in every single future election. Worth it.

Y'ain't got shit, gotcha

wait wait wait. i did this all wrong. i never did this before. here is the proper link (i think) lmgtfy.com/?q=370 billion dollar debt california

Judging from the last elections coverage, nothing.

>calexit happens
>US goes up to 75% white overnight
Oh no it sounds terrible someone please stop them

yeah you sure got me bro. you BTFO'd me and my easily verifiable information, for sure

Will keep US citizenship anyway
US can't legally acnoledge Cali as an independant countrt anyway

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I can't wait til Californians have to go through US Customs in order to leave. "what is the purpose of your visit? And I need your cell phone and pass code"

>lmgtfy.com/?q=370 billion dollar debt california

but he's still responding to me saying "hahaha i got you bro" like he proved what i said was untrue or something. fucking people man. fucking retarded, retarded people

Pretty much. Cali would just be under occupation, meaning you still get all the advantages of it being in the union while you can ignore all the disadvantages because they just lost their right to self-determination.

imgur.com/a/twvIB

If they tried to do this, what would the feds do with me after I killed everyone and turned the state back over to them?

no totally dude. you're totally coming from a rational point of view here, and you're really winning hearts and minds with your patently false information and position about my objective fact, easily verifiable statements. you're totally right man. keep on fighting this good fight. semper fi and godspeed son

How sustainable is an all almond diet?

hey muricans, did celebs like miley cyrus left USA already like they declared to do so when trump wins elections?

Give you a medal hopefully.

>California dies of cyanid poisoning.

That's basically what I'm trying to say to you.

It's not my obligation to do the research of something you're trying to present as fact.

I like this guy, move down south.

Okay, let's cut the bullshit, get in to brass tax, talk about numbers, get in to the zone, turn on beast mode, view that charts, list the statistics, feel the pulse of the nation, check the facts, burn the rubber, fuel the desire, fan the flames, begin the opus, get lift off, ready for the countdown, spit some rhymes, cue the music, get cracked, pop it off, put the fire out, get out of a jam, put the pedal to the metal, get the need for speed, turn up the heat..... Fuck, I can't think of more..

Ive been wanting to move. Fuck jerry brown. Gavin newsom. Josh newman, kamala bush hairless. SJW politicians. Wach one botch one. The only CA politifags worse are the only 8 cagop gop cucks that got fucked in the ass by Jerry brown and the the dem master rapers. Ca consumers will now pay almost 1$ more per gallon of gas due to new enviromentalfag tax and rape program. I'm leaving asap. I hope ca don't get nuked, but i don't think it would hurt. Fag cuck state.

no this is incorrect. i didn't "present" anything as fact. california 370 billion dollar deficit to the federal government is a matter of public record. you can google it yourself simple if you want to know. if you decide not to, then i sit here and laugh at you flailing around and trying to do these mental gymnastics you have to defend your own willful ignorance and help you to not have to admit you are wrong about something

if you were any sort of a normal human, interesting in finding out what's real and not real, you would have searched and found for yourself californias economic numbers and you would have seen that they do in fact have a 370 billion dollar deficit EVERY YEAR and it's because of their massive social programs.

ever hear of the "california budget crisis" kid?

Guys I'm going to die if calexit happens, just imagine this how are this subhumans going to maintain a monetary system?

We wouldn't lose the West Coast because we'd immediately go to war, invade and execute all the traitors. It's a death trap for the commies. :^)

they'll kill each other, along with the white liberals hopefully

Hubris is the word you are searching so desperately for.

Why is California below the mean for per capita federal spending if we are so bad?

taxfoundation.org/states-rely-most-federal-aid/

UGH JUST UGH THE SEPTENTRIONORMATIVITY

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Fuck, this shit is dumb, here's /thread.
California owes billions and can't pay it back.
The farming would die out when the out of state water is cut.
power isn't different.
Legally, it's impossible
Resource based, it could never happen
Califrnia owes 1BILLION/yr in retirement benefits. It's in a $2Billion shortfall this year, THE YEAR they want to leave, with a fucking huge debt (Damocles) over their head.
Stop wasting time in these threads, you might as well be debating space monsters.
I'm posting sinks tonight because the mods are dead.

Let California be and push it inhabitants into the sea instead

And you still refuse to do shit per capita for a state with 1/6th the US population. We're about to drop more on a fucking pair of tunnels for water than Trump would spend on the border wall. Learn about scale before you scoot up to the big boy table.

wow buddy. this is only one federal revenue source. it's federal grants-in-aid. it's not "per capita spending" at all. it's none of the things you're trying to present it as. and as stated before, in total CA takes 370 dollars from the federal government. that's their federal spending deficit. it's massive. that's not even counting whatever other debt they have.

why would you EVER try to present this one irrelevant statistic as being something TOTALLY different than what it is? my god man. this is a whole new level of bullshit.

This

Oregon and Washington would definitely go with Cali. I'm in Washington and King county is literally nothing but spics and Indians

whats a maple nigger? never heard that one. KEK

Alright I spent 7 minutes of my life cruising google only to find an LA Times article with no citation for that number.

Searching the authority they credit with that number, the Legislative Analyst office, also returns no results for that number.

Now that google has failed me, please provide the source which convinced you this was true.

#leftistpeopleexitthroughdeportation

The only parts of california that will leave are the urban libcuck parts so they would have to import all their food, not to mention a war would inevitably start resulting in california being btfo.

ok first of all californias population is not 1/6th of the US population. cali pop is 40 million, US pop is 320 million. right off the bat there shows you don't know what the hell you're talking about. your state gets 370 billion dollars EVERY YEAR from the federal government because it can't balance its own book.

please stop the drugs

Thurston County, ex Spokanite

Only around Pierce and King. Nuke those 2 please and leave the rest of Washington alone

maybe olympia too

>California exits
>Mexico conquers it
>Trump makes it pay for the fucking wall

>inb4 the California National Guard is activated and storms government buildings in California, marital law is declared until riots and the overall Calexit movement is quelled. Meanwhile, God King, President Donald J. Trump the First, Liberator and Savior of North America reclines idly back in the Oval Office, calmly awaiting North Korea to make another nuclear threat or test in the direction of the United States.

don't let the door hit you on the way out nigger.

you saw it in the LA times, which is the BIGGEST news outlet in california and it's still not good enough for you? you just don't want to believe it because you don't want to believe it.

if you want some real reading about the economic degeneracy of california, read about their "budget crisis" a few years ago.

Read your own article, cunt.

Want to take a guess at how much those things mean if you aren't nutz to buttz with America?

Dick.

what own article? i didn't cite one for the guy. what on earth are YOU talking about? do you do DRUGS?

>I kind of also want to stay in Cali for economic reasons

Literally what economic reason could you possibly have to stay there, other than having a job and being too incompetent/lazy to get a new one?

KEK.
It should be obvious from contextual clues. I might also refer to user as a moose fucker, or chang.
Stop posting and just figure it out, KEK
SERIOUSLY, can you prove your 18+? I don't think you should be here.
Seriously, he's right. This thread for the 10575th time is dumb. I'll prove it, name one thing that would help a free california exist and i'll stomp mudholes in your dreams.
ball is yours

I generally don't have as much trust in news businesses as I used to.
The authority they point to itself says California spends 99 cents for every dollar it sends.

Here, I'll be a good example and show you a source to back my claim:

lao.ca.gov/Publications/Report/3531/2

lao.ca.gov/Publications/Report/3531/2
Relevant link from the only article mentioning this fucking 370bn number.

Resorting to ad hom is low brow and quite truthfully expected.

The second they vote to calexit. The upper 20 or so counties of California will immediately break off and come back to the US as a 50th state, and extremely conservative. You guys don't understand that California is highly segregated politically, the upper, rural part of the state and the central valley is super conservative.

soj51.org/

The rural and conservative parts would likely stay with the Union. Good riddance to the rest. Let them try going in on their own if they like as far as I'm concerned.

here is another problem they have. SF chronicle reporting on 400 billion dollars in unfunded liabilities lmfao
sfchronicle.com/politics/article/California-s-400-billion-debt-worries-analysts-6812264.php
they can't afford to exit. sorry. they don't have their finances in order and they don't know how to run an economy. all leftist-run economies end up like this eventually

Armchair militaryfags would cream themselves if California tried to leave the Union. California's infrastructure is so poor and centralized that you could basically drone the Clifton Court Forebay and everything south of SF would be without water.

>Calexit happens
>10 days later, as they no longer have a military the beaners realize they are the state majority and the chimpout of all chimpouts begins
>All the kikes and limo liberals are killed
>USA goes in for "humanitarian reasons" and mows down all the beaners
>20 days after Calexit the dust settles
>California is annexed by the USA, sans liberals, Jews and beaners
>California has been made Great Again!

I wish

If you took even people from East coast blue states and put them in King county they would probably feel like they're in a different country

We have 1.7 billion in added medical expenditures, not to mention the high speed rail shitshow, and the delta tunnels.

It's called democratic supermajority and corruption leading to pork. This can all be yours as well if you let California collapse. The parasites will run, discarding the fetid corpse of the welfare state that sustained them for the juicy southern states, corrupting them, raping them as they have done to an abandoned california.

But go ahead and laugh at our stupidity. I voted against it, but I am one man. Soon you will be just one man, and someone else will be laughing at your stupidity.

I wish it would work like that, but it wouldn't.

We don't need a free California to exist, we need an excuse for the military to come in and execute every California politician that was onboard with Calexit so we can start over without the ones running the show now.

I dream of balkanization of the US. And I know it will happen in my lifetime.

Not a single one.

I believe it, particularly because the bond rating is verifiable and they quote other accessible info like the 2016 state of the state speech.

Not gonna lie, I was extra skeptical about the deficit thing just because it went waaay out of what I've previously heard. I probably wouldn't have tried to verify that sfchronicle article if I had just found it in the wild since it matches my expectations for pensions being fucked across the state.

i didn't cite that page and i've never seen that page. i don't even see 370$ there anywhere. nothing to do with what i was talking about. all that is is a transparent attempt to jog numbers and distract from the fact that they're in the middle of a total economic shit sandwich. cool, they found a couple numbers, from independent sources (not gov sources or anything) that they present out of context to say "but look look! this number is good!" well great, you still deal on massive deficits and cost us a ton of money