> Girlfriend of 3 years wants to get married and have kids > She has good job, comes from great stock, and is totally redpilled > She's also down to "secure the existence of our people and a future for white children" :-) > I'm fine with the marriage ceremony, but really don't want to sign the wicked contract that is a marriage license
Should I do it Sup Forums? Pressure from her and her family is mounting. I want to start a family with her, but I'm way too aware of the tendency of western women to totally fuck over their husbands and take half their shit.
Marriage is to honor God and produce offspring. If you're not saved do that first so you can lead your home like the Bible says
That's the real redpill
Henry Phillips
Get a prenuptial. Then do it faggot.
Kevin Wright
Maybe prenups mean something in Switzerland, but America is notoriously anti-male in the cancerous realm known as divorce court.
Henry Robinson
I'm going through a divorce right now. My wife thinks I'm cheating on her and I am not. She does not believe me so filed for divorce. I can afford a lawyer so I hope everything will work out. My son turned 3 yesterday and she only let me see him for 30 mins. The pain I feel not being able to see my son is worse than any I have felt before.
Eli Gray
>gf wants to marry >gf has a good job you're going to have kids and then fight for the rest of your lives about childcare and who watches the kids. then she's going to divorce you and demand more alimony and child support to pay for child care while she works
a mother should be at home raising the kids
Jacob Allen
If she is red pilled why does she demand a government contract?
Cooper Garcia
Marry her and fill her with tons of beautiful white babies. Always be in charge. Don't be a limp wristed faggot.
Ayden Taylor
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Jace Roberts
Judges throw out prenups all the time :-/
Isaiah Cooper
I've been married over 30 years. If you find the right woman, it's awesome.
Jayden Williams
That's because most retards make unenforceable contracts. When done correctly, with at least two lawyers present, they are usually accepted.
This myth needs to stop being perpetuated. There is hope that a prenup will be enforced.
Ian Sanders
Currently she works, but I'm moving to a new position soon and will start making $250k per year. She loves the idea of being a stay-at-home mom, so it just might work... Her sister currently is one, and her mom stayed at home for long portion of her childhood.
Matthew Butler
>Being a Christcuck >Unironically worshipping a literal kike Pathetic
Julian Rivera
I might be able to talk her out of it... she's said several times she doesn't care about the marriage, but now that the talk has become more serious she's bringing it up. I think the family pressure is getting to her.
Daniel Bennett
Prenups don't hold up in court but it wouldn't hurt.
Wyatt Powell
Why don't these guys just kidnap their ex wives and torture them to death >inb4 he's still a millionaire It's the principle of the matter, murder that bitch
Aaron Bennett
>3 years wait until 6
Jeremiah Hughes
I'm recently married. It's fine for us, besides the green card crap. She's European, and not a big fan of the US. I'm not sure about anyone else, but when I saw here I knew that I was going to marry her. It was a bit odd, but I just knew.
But you have to make sure to be a leader. Women don't want weak men. Even though the woman is "in charge" (you'll see), they want the man to make the decisions and take care of them.
Connor Scott
It's time to think like a nigger. Get married, have many kids and forget about money or getting old.
Jose Nguyen
Yeah, I think if I make one lock-solid it will deter any potential shenanigans. I should probably meet with a lawyer a few times alone and get it ironed out prior to bringing it up with her.
Xavier Murphy
Yes, a divorce judge may very well see your pre-nup as an attempt to overrule his (or her) judgment. She may also take it as evidence that you were planning to divorce your wife from the start -- even if your wife is the one who filed, and also cheated on you, ran off with your kids, etc.
Ian Martinez
If she is redpilled based on its definition on this site don't get married. She believes in lies and fairy tales. She believes in baseless conspiracy. She will make shit up about you and rationalize cheating on you with it. Never trust anyone who believes in stuff without facts.
Jack Hughes
Well, normally I would want to wait longer... but biological clock is ticking. We're both in early 30's. So it's a post-wall scenario. Easiest relationship ever. No fights, no arguments, hot sex 3-4 times a week. Best woman I've ever met by a mile, so not going to just trade her in for a new model that ends up being a lemon. > inb4 someone says wife should only be 17 or some shit
Jackson Foster
This but since most religions support marriage he can choose the one that fits to him. Christianity is just one out of thousands.
Joshua Mitchell
If she objects just make the argument that even though you have fire insurance you never hope your house burns down.
Jaxon Ortiz
What did humans do before there were priest's, ministers, rabbis, and judges and ship captains?
Christian Brooks
Thing is neither one of us is religious. She went to Roman-Catholic school when she was younger, but hasn't gone to church once the entire time we're together. So the whole thing kind of feels like a meme anyways.
Bentley James
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Jaxon Perez
If shes asking its prolly more ultimatum than not senpai
Joshua Reed
Bahahahaha literal worst nightmare
Thomas Lee
Religion just help since it more than a legal matter that keeps you together then.
the world is in the end times, all children will be born soulless, only we are the ones with souls left to save.
it started in 2012 December 21st, anyone born after that is a child of satan.
no one said the apocolypse would happen overnight, its slowly been happening
Hunter Wilson
Get married, be a man. * ** Don't Have a bachelor party the day before your wedding. * **
David Bell
in this climate I'd wait a solid 10 years.
If she understands the situation men face (not just occasionally mimic the virtues of men) and thinks you are valuable she will do anything and find ways to keep it going that cannot be faked.
If she is concerned that her man is keeping his options wide open now against his every other indication then marriage won't stop that or make the man more relaxed (a goal she should have).
You can both afford to look after kids individually if it came down to it, so all the pressure of marriage is coming down to her desire for attention - that is the biggest problem with society and needs to be corrected for if marriages are to last again.
Divorce Courts are stacked with feminist jewesses. What you have to realize is that part of the reason for this is that it provides them with the opportunity to undermine not only existing marriages, but to prevent marriages by making divorce such an obvious threat to men.
If you don't get married, the Jew has won.
Anthony Gutierrez
>She's also down to "secure the existence of our people and a future for white children" :-)
do it OP, don't be a faggot
Wyatt Watson
Actually Jesus did, and the phrase is "like a thief in the night" He also said only the father knows when the events of revelation will happen, so how can you point out a date?
Noah Harris
>$250k per year >wants to be a stay-at-home mom
Well, of course she loves that idea. You will be paying $10k a month in alimony/child support when she eventually divorces you. You better get a fucking pre-nup
Ian Taylor
Never get married, freedom is priceless. Srs, OP, divorce rate is over 60% nowadays. Enjoy life, don't even risk to ruin your life.
Andrew Hernandez
I've been married for twelve years. We're both faithful. Marriage is hard but deeply rewarding. Having kids is even harder but basically a transcendent experience, makes you a better person and shows you a new kind of love. I think it's all worth it, but it's a serious commitment and challenge.
Lucas Sullivan
if her family is sane, no one in jail, she is responsible with money, has never flipped into rage mode, doesnt drink, is not obsessed with food or has eating issues, is ok with eating what you cook without complaining or criticising, then yeah, get married.
women without eating disorders and responsible with money are pretty rare, so you are lucky if you found one.
read 'the four horsemen of divorce' for the warning signs to watch out for: contempt, withdrawal, criticism and i forget the fourth
Oliver Jackson
Ask her about the possibility of having children, having a ceremony even, but not being officially married by the government. You can call yourself man and wife, and be so in the eyes of God, without the government.
You can also bring up pre-nups.
If both of you love each other OP and really want to raise kids together, this is not the convo to be having on Sup Forums Go talk to your wife.
I wish yo the best of luck. I truly hope your wife is divorcing for that reason and will realize youre not cheating, and then once more you can be a happy home. I hope for you that even if this goes through, your son remains your son.
Let me tell you from personal experience that for many women, despite marriage being pointless, silly, and in the current time even bad for men...It's the declaration of it. The old meaning that marriage used to have. It's just about her feelings, basically. She loves OP and she wants her and OP to publicly and officially declare how much they love each other and how they intend to be together forever.
Because of society, not doing it the 'proper' way can feel like its not as good. Women are much more influenced in this manner than men.
Lincoln Fisher
Well if she slept around a lot don't bother, she'll probably divorce you. I would suggest you do the marriage ceremony without being legally married. You could get legally married many years into the future, once you're kids are grown up, but prenups are worthless and divorce courts hate men.
William Davis
married to ex-wife for 12 years, she got fat and cheated
married to current-wife for 5 years, at the getting fat stage... waiting on the cheating next.
this is it though. young thin sluts from then on out. at least i got smarter and got a vasectomy after getting this one pregnant.
James Wilson
I doubt she 'believes' in marriage so much as despite her logically knowing its no good, her heat still desires the concept of it. Checked
Isaac Wood
I take it you have exclusively settled with sluts That would be your mistake
David Nelson
No
Aiden Cook
Where is the version when the man cheats on his wife, uses their money gifting the whore, then leaves his family?
Brandon Roberts
They were effectively in a marriage regardless, and the government's permission wasnt needed for people to be allowed to do basic shit, like be with their loved one in a sick room.
Ian Campbell
there is no proper family without marriage.
If you can't trust her then you're never more than a bunch of city hipsters going through phases.
Angel Baker
*tip* harder faggot
Charles Hernandez
>has good job you know the process explain to her that shes gonna have to drop it
>I'm fine with the marriage ceremony, but really don't want to sign the wicked contract that is a marriage license just get together in the country where common law marriage is not valid
Juan Powell
You can be religious without going to Church. Ive not been to a Church since I was a baby, but I still do want to live well by God and believe He exists. I will admit to being a pussy and a tad scared of going into a Church after all this time, like I wouldnt belong there. Maybe this is your wife's way of rekindling her faith too.
Angel Hill
Is she a feminist?
> Yes Fucking run. > No Marriage material.
Nathaniel Carter
>She has good job, comes from great stock, and is totally redpilled
ASk for a pre nups.
Jayden Jones
this is pretty accurate, but is only phase one, there is 3 years and 50k$ lawyer and divorce phase after all that, that is when the guy cracks and gets a shotgun
Colton Allen
Yeah, her Mom and Dad were high school sweethearts and are still married to this day well into their 60's. Her mom works for the state (California) and constantly complains about how minorities abuse the welfare system. Her dad is about to retire and wants to sell his house and "move to a state where liberalism doesn't exist" LOL. So things look pretty good on that front.
Ryan Russell
>rewarding sluts
This is why they exist
Ethan Gomez
believe it or not, both christians with very few previous partners.
Andrew Jones
This.
Liam Davis
Question Is it still degenerate to lose your virginity with boyfriend, get redpilled after losing hymen, and thus planning to marry said boyfriend and not have any other sexual partner for the rest of your life?
Xavier Campbell
If she claims you are cheating on HER, she is cheating on you
Liam Gonzalez
Are you beta as fuck? Fat yourself?
Nolan Adams
>she is totally redpilled
Sorry that's impossible no matter how much you have convinced yourself. She's probably already fucking 3 niggers behind your back.
Best to just keep things as they are or move on.
Nathaniel Brooks
Marriage is like an exchange, so if you're not willing to lose some liberties don't do it
Cooper Morris
Not really, no, imo. I don't care much for marriage due to the fact that its become a way to screw over men. Losing your virginity to your boyfriend at a young age who you've known for a short time indicates degeneracy, but if the girl wakes up after that and doesn't fuck around then I don't see a problem.
Aiden Williams
Definitely not a feminist. Her mother and sister were both stay at home moms and raised the children. Doesn't push feminine issues or really even have an interest in politics. And basically just follows whatever I tell her is the right policy anyways. If she was a blue-haired feminist we never even would've made it past the first date.
Mason Bailey
Corey Wayne has a great book on attracting and keeping women. It's a short read and full of great tips. If you apply it, your relationship will have a much better chance than most of the guys being taken through the cleaners.
And yes, the legal system sucks. Almost as if they didn't want us getting married and having kids...
Isaac Perry
MarryingARoastie.jpg
Liam Brooks
Do it, don't waste more years. She'll probably be OK for at least 10 years. Once the kids are past infancy she may try to push you out and turn into a total bitch, but at least you will have reproduced. And our social norms are moving right-ward, so I think it's fairly likely she won't do the bitch thing. We're going back to the old days.
Have 5 kids! Get started!
Brody Hall
just got off jury duty in a divorce case some of the other jurors have been through a divorce. I would suggest you look up divorce laws in your state. Also make sure you are able easily provide documents of your finances and direct contributions to marital assets.
Hunter Morales
Thanks anons. This is a truly rough time but your words help.
Evan Allen
nah, 6'1, 190... i work long hours so i'm not as present as i could be, but i make good money and i help out as much as i can at home. just bad luck of the draw, but i'm pushing 40 now and i've lost all motivation. you learn that when you find yourself having to fuck something that you aren't attracted to at all anymore.
Brody Campbell
why the hell would you get "married" how dumb are you? do you love god or something?
Jackson Powell
That's reassuring, thanks comrade
Carter Clark
What I don't get is what stops you emptying your assets and just flying to a non extradition country and never seeing her again? Obviously it's harder with kids but if you are never seeing them anyway?
I'd just bail with 60k and drive away. Do men on alimony get signed up to a terrorist watch list to stop them leaving?
What are you going to do when you notice the payments stop and I'm long gone to some backwater?
Hudson Collins
Wha exacally do you gain from being married? I've been with my awesome partner for 10+ years. we don't need marriage.
Thankfully she wasn't brainwashed into thinking it was something she has to do
Noah Williams
Oh look some random cuck posting on Sup Forums during business hours is here to tell us the truth about the entire universe.
Wyatt King
Medicine?
Carter Adams
talk to her about the (((contract))) and see if she is fine with just getting married without government involvement
Thomas Brown
>business hours Not in Hawaii.
Brody Nguyen
How does she control your access to him? Does she have a restraining order against you?
See your son, and if she's withholding it, complain to the court.
Get a lawyer even if you can't afford it. Sell everything you own and preferably everything she owns to afford it. Fight to win, be nastier than her, tell the court every nasty thing about her that you don't want to think about.
Men lose because it's our nature to want a smooth life. You have to become a female-like bitch now and claw her eyes out.
Daniel Martin
I'm already well-versed in pick-up, seduction, social dynamics between men and women. Frequent reader of Chateau Heartiste and The Rational Male (Rollo is also married, talks alot about making marriages work).
Landon Edwards
Great, all the best to you then. Thanks for mentioning those names, I'll look into them.
Luke Butler
She fucks other dudes on the side, that's why she does not want to get married. Just sayin.
Carter Sanders
tax incentives are a plus
Oliver Gomez
Get married in the church. It's going to be great and terrible.
Bentley Sanchez
>Corey Wayne don't think I can trust someone with two first names but Corey isn't really a name
Thomas Baker
Nobody works in Hawaii anyway.
Evan Parker
When I studied economics, the professor told us: The woman loses value over time So take a woman for a lifetime It's pure madness
Lincoln Murphy
Sounds golden. Be honest Op, Whats keeping you?
Jaxson Howard
Yeah, that's what I figured... She wants to have 2-4 kids (I have one from previous relationship). We'll probably be fine for at least 10 years while kids are growing up. If shit goes south then I'll still be in my early 40's and quite well off so I can just fuck around after that and get snipped.
Joseph Hughes
Just a word of caution, that might prompt her to become more aggressive when it's possible to settle things more amiably.
Leo Jones
The problem with marriage is that divorce is at all possible. It should be impossible. You can still treat it as an impossibility. Instead of even entertaining the chance that you could ever divorce, don't. If you think you have an easy way out of some conflict, you will take it. If you don't think it's even an option, you will find other solutions, like actually fixing your problems in your relationship. I don't think you should ever get married if you think divorce could ever be an option. Neither of you should think it could be.
Aiden Davis
>things that never happened for 500
Nicholas Reyes
Also do it early, like before you even get engaged. This will prevent them from using t he argument that they were under duress