What is the true meaning of life? Why are we all here? What motivates you to strive for greatness in your lifetime?
>not shitposting, serious philosophical question id like to see the answers to
What is the true meaning of life? Why are we all here? What motivates you to strive for greatness in your lifetime?
>not shitposting, serious philosophical question id like to see the answers to
To fight for my people, and cure the degeneracy and social decay that plagues christianity and european culture alike
" To Dream The Impossible Dream "
To out shitpost Austrailia
the entire point is to experience it from your own unique perspective and quantify why it was worth the cost of admission.
Mathematics
Hell if I know
to punish bad bitches and jerk it to exquisite loli hentai
L2 meme fhag
I'm not really pessimistic but all evidence leads to the conclusion that we are all here by chance and that individuality may seem grand and important but the reality of the situation is that we are all insignificant and specks of dust in space and time. anything we say or do will never truly make a difference in the grand scheme of things. After we die our consciousness and subconsciousness ends entirely and there is no experience after death. Only the dead truly know, that is, if they know anything at all. because theyre dead. Faith is an emotional construct programmed into us by the natural drive to continue living.
We're here to know, love and serve God in this world, and to be happy with Him in the next.
Do you guys ever think about death and get freaked out? What if there is no afterlife, how it just ends. How many people have died and been dead long before you, and the same thing will happen to you. It's like... being permanetly asleep, asleep forever. It won't hurt, the only reason it scares me is because I am conscious now. Its just fuck im gonna be dead one day.
Why does there have to be a "meaning"? Leave that shit to Philosophy Majors to waste time on.
Ensure a future for our species. That's why I take a few trips to Thailand each year and spread my seed around. Did it in US 3 months ago too.
Religion is nonsense. There was no literal Adam and Eve. It's just a myth. There could be a God or Gods but it's not the Abrahamic one.
You were dead/non-existant for billions of years before then.
Heidegger and Whitehead pretty much nail the what. Eastern mysticism nails the why.
>inb4 praise JAYSUS
There is much to add to your straight edge normie (((Christian))) subversion shit that gets pushed here
of course we are going to die, but thats not a bad thing, listen all death means is that the experience of life is that much more precious. dying is easy, surviving the trip is the hard part.
this and also i'm trying to marry this artist girl who wants a lot of tattoos and make love to her until she has so many babies. i'm lutheran so i don't listen to the pope but anyway, like i think 4-5 kids would be good. can you imagine if we just made so much love that we had like 450 kids or something?
To experience life and develop our conscience
Look at Nietchze's Last Man here. Fucking pathetic.
I have panic attacks if I think too hard about it so I try not to.
For the glory of God
let go of your ego and that will pass.
What you believe in the state just before you die will happen, so always believe in the afterlife
To raise your children so they have have more children.
Can you refer me to some resources to help with this?
Make your own meaning. You're not owed anything.
I remember that fear from when I was your age. But the older I get the more tempting that sounds, to not exist any more. Honestly I'm looking forward to it. Which makes sense naturally you come to want your fate, otherwise that would just be pure evil
However there are reasons to never be quite sure about reality and time and death so many possibilities unfortunately.
One interesting thing is recurrence where the universe collapses in and then expands again all over and you happen again with no time in between (like anesthesia) and live your life all over almost exactly the same forever. Only purely wide awake deeply breathing fleeting moments you can alter this groundhog life.
There is no meaning, nothing you do or ever will do will ever really change anything.
The secular answer is to satisfy our wills. The following religious answer is in recognizing that God is the only thing that can satisfy our will, and to dedicate our lives to Him by following his only Son, Jesus Christ.
Thanks, I'll read into it.
yes, this is my biggest fear desu
Nothing
No reason
Self interest
en.wikipedia.org
There is no meaning, user. Only liberty.
Life is a game OP. We are endorphin based creatures. Maximize your own happiness no matter the cost to others. The end of human beings is, as Aristotle said, eudiamonia--sublime happiness.
im confused, what do you mean and why is my personal opinion pathetic to you
you don't really believe that.
We are all an unbroken line of life going back to primitive cells from a billion years ago. A part of them is alive in you and you can live on through your children. Having children / helping out your family is basil to a meaningful life. If you have aspiration motives, do all you can towards it. If you don't, do what you can to chase transcendent moments and live well.
That's just your brain trying to keep you alive, it knows it's not time yet. When your subconscious realizes that death is imminent and inescapable, you won't be afraid.
I'm not the person who posted that but Nietzsche is lame in my opinion. Commies love him because of the God is dead, Godless pure secular State. He confused a lot of people even into the current century. He went insane before passing. Nietzsche and nihilism is fucked
To experience it. In whatever way that means to you. I don't necessarily mean straight up hedonism, but do what makes you happy, and other people happy. Find things you enjoy, and do them. Do you like helping people? Help them. Do you like racing cars? Race them. And you'd know better than anyone else what makes you happy, so get out there and do it.
"man's main task in life is to give birth to himself" -Eric Fromm
Bill Luminatti I see u bruh
oh, im sorry to come across as a nihilist. i dont think that everything is meaningless, just that when we die it really doesnt matter what we've done on a personal level because we will be dead and therefore unable to really care of the consequences/further happenings that go on in the universe, as we'll be unable to experience them/have a sense of self or anything
i honestly believe that everything humans do is about personal satisfaction in some way. Even sacrificing yourself would leave you feeling some satisfaction in the short moments you realize what you're doing before you end.
>you happen again with no time in between (like anesthesia) and live your life all over almost exactly the same forever
I want my fucking money back.
To enjoy what God created. If you dont believe in God then enjoy what random mutations and accidents created.
Leave the city and enjoy nature. Once you observe the beauty of life, you will know what the meaning of life is.
Why am I here? My parents had sex.
how can i go experience nature and learn the meaning of life when im stuck in this hospital bed due to a heart defect in which im constantly hospitalized or incapable of doing those things without dying
Nietzsche isn't a nihilist though.
To do the impossible and kick reason to the curb.
obviously you can't in that scenario, the best you can do is accept how things have happened and not be bitter, easy to say from my ivory tower. im sure you must find something worthwhile even bedridden.
I didn't mean to really call you a nihilist, for all i know you could be anything. On a personal level where you eventually lose a sense of self the consequences do often seem vain.
I can't really argue against the personal satisfaction thing, it's interesting though. Why do you think that faith is an emotional construct programmed into us by nature though?
You shouldn't find the answers in what other people have to say. Find it yourself, and if you find nothing, well then that's your own problem. I realize how little any of this shit matters, i.e. our struggles, ideas, religion, lives etc. I just want to live life, and my purpose in life is to serve my country and find someone with meaning. I know it means nothing, but it makes me happy. Don't misunderstand this last part, that is my meaning, but everyone has to start somewhere and my reasons might enlighten you to find your own meaning.
Tough Luck. Many die at a young age as well. I was answering the question asked.
Maybe you should ask a philosopher or a theologian on your views on a pointless life. Maybe follow what your hero Dawkins says, and do what ever you want without the fear of consequences. Maybe stick your penis in a boys asshole.Or maybe you should visit a Catholic forum on the meaning of life.It seems to me you think your life is all pointless because you are a random cluster of cells that was once created by lightning..
Nietchze's God is dead is not a declaration or call to arms. It's a lamentation. Like, oh fuck look around no one is doing this like how they did before. They are only going to church because the culture.
Hence the next passage. God is dead and we killed him how will we know where we go through this void, which way is up or down.
Or something like that.
But that is entirely missing my point.
My quip about last man is 'we are but a result of meaningless chance in an indifferent universe.
While being comfortable and lazy and passive and content.
That is literally the opposite of meaning. Look up the last man and why we are at the end of history and all these NEETs and larpers are but last men.
I'm no biologist, but what's really the difference between a dead body (assuming they died peacefully) and a living one? There's millions of cells, all acting out some role based upon just forty six chromosomes, electricity runs up and down our nerve tissues, hormones, etc. Life is so incredibly complex it's unbelievable, and i'm not convinced it's all for no reason At the very least life, consciousness, is the universe doing it's best to return to nothingness.
Because why else would humans develop faith? We WANT to believe that there is more once we die. We use it to keep ourselves from being frantic or depressed by the concept of death. If you ask me, it is a lie we tell ourselves so we can feel better about how death truly is the end. If death wasn't the end, why is it that people are so afraid of it? Why is it seen as such a tragedy? Why do we have 0 answers as to what happens afterwards? It is all speculation. I don't claim to have the answers, in fact, I'm claiming I don't have the answers so I assume the one thing that is certain to our knowledge so far. Trust me guy-- I want to go on as an individual even after I die too. Or still be capable of thought at least.
I hate most things about myself, my temper, my indulgence, compulsiveness, impulsiveness, my avoidance, and total lack of initiative and balls. On top of that I resent the world for my being this way, which I can't help any more than I can help that I'm tall.
The meaning of life, in a biological sense, is to spread your genes in order to continue your species. However on, if there is a god then your reason to live would be to perform your religious duty followed by passing on your genes. If a god doesn't exist then really its up to you as to what you should fill that slot with.
What is the true meaning of life?
To suffer and die
The truth is right here.
When we love God first and foremost, that allows us to preserve humanly love for the next life and for eternity. If we don't love God who has set up the system for us to love eternally, then our love is meaningless and destined to die.
Love is why we live, God built the system that allows us the chance to preserve it for eternity, but God needs to act as our head in order for this to become so. He is the framework that allows everything else to have meaning, he is our head.
It's really quite beautiful.
It's pointless talking about what happens after death because there is no way to know
>What is the true meaning of life?
No such thing.
>Why are we all here?
No reason, we just happened to be here.
>What motivates you to strive for greatness in your lifetime?
I like some shit and dislike some other shit. Death and pain is the shit i don't like, while fun, sluts and victories is the shit I love.
what's god dude?
samsara
duhkka
eighttfold path will help you user
I actually agree with most of what you say, and I think you're making logical points. But, something in me just tells me that can't be true.
Have you ever seen an absolutely beautiful sunset? Or a night sky, away from city pollution? In moments like that, I feel they beyond. That it's not just all meaningless. Why is that the case? You can't tell me that I find these things beautiful due to sheer biological force, via evolution. In moments like that, I am reminded of Plato's writings
>There is something innate and yet external to a beautiful object. Its beauty is really there independently of a perceiver, and its being beautiful or not does not depend upon personal evaluations. Neither is its beauty found in any externally posited function, utility, or pleasure in or from the object. The Beauty Theory holds; the psychological and instrumental theories are discarded. This is the view that Plato urges
>Plato correctly accepts a beauty theory in which the Beautiful is an external form, and it is from this form, that beautiful things can be beautiful. Though there are many signs of the Beautiful, none of them by themselves singularly or merely together can account for the Beautiful in itself. The signs which indicate Beauty's presence are not sufficient for an object to be beautiful except that they are appropriately well-ordered.
I guess that's why I can never really call myself an atheist in good faith
>"No such thing."
Sounds degenerate and wasted.
>" while fun, sluts and victories is the shit I love"
Oh
Do shit which is really hard. Ground yourself in the actual.
Well, what we may perceive as beauty may not be perceived by another species. You make very good points, but truthfully, it's not beautiful if there is no one around to perceive it as beautiful. it simply would not exist to any creature capable of perceiving it if it were in a remote location where it could not be found. Is it truly beautiful if there is nothing around to perceive it as such?
That's like the speck of dust asking why he is there
You are an aberration. A random speck on the existence of the planet
The only meaning you can derive is through being great. Through having a legacy that transcends you. Through having experience that represents failure to triumph. And, most importantly, to have a family to continue that legacy. Perhaps you will not be great. But if you instill the virtues of greatness on your progeny then the luck of the draw may favour one of them to be great
Or you could just be a nihilist and realize the earth will be obliterated by the sun, thats fun too
>What is the true meaning of life? Why are we all here?
I honestly don't know. We're such strange creatures. I don't understand consciousness or why the mind-body problem exists. I don't know if consciousness or life exist in places or forms I'm blind to. I don't understand my own life or consciousness. I don't know why spirituality, archetypes, synchronicity, and intuition seem to be real things. I don't know if this is all some sustained hallucination. I don't know if "I" is a thing, and I don't know if it's part of something larger or that I'm blind to or if it's just an illusion on its own or what.
Sometimes I feel like I have glimpses of understanding it, but it's hard to convey the experience of that. I don't know how much weight to give to my own reasoning, to my own experiences, to my own intuition, to argument, to faith, or to the feeling of "ought." I often wonder if there really is nothing to any of it, I really am just a worthless hunk of protoplasm, and all the speculation is just my subsconscious brain recoiling in horror from nonexistence. Then I wonder if maybe there's something more and I know it, and I'm willfullly ignoring it by pretending that all I can see is this.
>What motivates you to strive for greatness in your lifetime?
Wist and blue days. The faces of the people I love reflected in the faces of their children. Music and dancing. Rock and roll. Sex, orgasm, a woman's shape and form, desire, passion, and creampies. Cheap, sugary bullshit. Shit so sour your mouth bleeds. Hot sauce and green chile. A ripe pear. Anxiety, fear, paranoia, and stress. Shitposting and cartoons. Being righteously angry and enjoying it. Getting high. Tripping. Reading. Swimming. The ocean. The sun. A breeze against my face. The smell of the desert. The somber, dreamy feeling of a city at night. Starry skies. Getting scraped up and dirty. The laughter of children. My family. My friends. Dreams and daydreams. Taking a really good shit. The moon.
True meaning of life is for everyone to provide for their "tribe"(family) as efficiently as possible so everyone may have time to relax and enjoy their time on this earth
the only reason that spooks me out is if reincarnation is real and there's a very real chance ill be born in a fucking 3rd world country with diseases and shit.
makes me want to do some good in the world, which i guess it maybe why we're really here.
when you think about it, every single person who shitposts on this board is incredibly lucky.
We are here to become as like God as possible.
Humanity can simply be described in one sentence.
>some brilliant people work hard to make the publics lives better, the public in turn tries to kill them for it.
That's all it is
Fuck yeah, it baffles me how i have no concious recolection of everything before i was born
>What is the true meaning of life?
To find a meaning in life.
>Why are we all here?
Because we're not somewhere else.
>What motivates you
Nothing, obviously.
That's a terrible answer.
Especially if you're a christcuck like I presume you are.
Garden of Eden, Tower of Babel. You are not supposed to be like God, you are a lowly slave.
>That's a terrible answer.
>>To find a meaning in life.
kys retard
I don't think it is like being asleep.
It's hard to put into words, but even when I'm asleep, there's some part of me there. It's soemthing I'd imagine many people aren't aware of or pass off as nothing, but it's something. Again, it's hard to phrase it, but even though it's an experience of emptiness during dreamless sleep, there's still an "I" there somewhere, even if I'm not conscious of it.
The supposed emptiness of sleep is still a living experience. Darkness is still a living experience. Silence is still a living experience. Even assuming that everything "just ends," I don't think it'd be like sleep. It'd be something we couldn't even comprehend.
Go read the digression in Plato's Theatetus you unedecated faggot.
I think people want to believe that there is a god who loves them. Because they can't accept the fact that we will all die without a purpose. Can't really blame them for that
You missed the subtext because you're a nigger.
There is no meaning in life until you decide there is a meaning in life.
It's completely up to the individual.
Go read the bible.
I get dreams in my life of my previous life
I used to be a warrior or bandit in east of yurope
I took part in a aiding party on a village, we killed everyone, burned it down, I raped a peasant woman there.
>aiding
*raiding
amazing just how much meaning a typo missing one word can change, fuck english
The purpose of life is generally to get to the top of some kind of hierarchy that will fulfill some kind of biological imperative.
Sentient life likes to ascribe higher motives to animal behaviour, to avoid facing the cold reality that you were born as an animal, you will live like an animal, and you will die and cease to exist like an animal.
Meaning is meaningless, because it is a lie, and you know that it is a lie, and the more intelligent you are the harder it becomes to lie to yourself.
Tldr All God's children go to Heaven.
delusions and uneducation, dreams are random information.
I'm here to laugh.
to prove your worthiness to possess the power of your soul in the next life.
not when you get dreams of the same event acting out the same routine throughout them since childhood
the most amazing thing is, is I was born back in east of yurope
Matthew 6:24
Then Jesus said to His disciples, "If anyone wishes to come after Me, he must deny himself, and take up his cross and follow Me.
John 13:13
"You call Me Teacher and Lord; and you are right, for so I am. If I then, the Lord and the Teacher, washed your feet, you also ought to wash one another's feet. For I gave you an example that you also should do as I did to you."
1 Corinthians 11:1
Be imitators of me, just as I also am of Christ.
Ephesians 5:1-2
Therefore be imitators of God, as beloved children; and walk in love, just as Christ also loved you and gave Himself up for us, an offering and a sacrifice to God as a fragrant aroma.
1 Peter 2:20-22
For what credit is there if, when you sin and are harshly treated, you endure it with patience? But if when you do what is right and suffer for it you patiently endure it, this finds favor with God. For you have been called for this purpose, since Christ also suffered for you, leaving you an example for you to follow in His steps, WHO COMMITTED NO SIN, NOR WAS ANY DECEIT FOUND IN HIS MOUTH
1 John 2:6
The one who says he abides in Him ought himself to walk in the same manner as He walked.
Limitlessness wanted to try limitedness. The one who observes is the unlimited in you, your thoughts, feelings, senses and body are not. The purpose is to merge back into the unlimited wholly. Stop identifying with the limited and start treating others like yourself, because that's what they are.
God.
God damn that picture.
Holy fuck.
First, Jesus is not God. That's retarded they behave completely differently.
Second, God will kill you if you get too close to being God. That's the whole point of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil being forbidden and the reason the Tower of Babel was knocked over and all of humanity was cursed to speak different languages instead of being one cohesive unit.
Arguing against plato with rhetorical questions? Yes it is beautiful even though no one sees it. This is the falling tree question. Yes it makes sound. Don't be such a huge pompous ass and assume everything you don't know doesn't exist.
The purpose of humans is to create our successor. That's about it. All this culture mumbo jumbo are just byproducts of our brains which exist to imagine and create. We are just the tail end of a long chain of biological evolution, which we have surpassed with tools and record keeping.
The singularity is near my friends, let's hope we don't blow ourselves up before then.