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How come the eclipse will go from west to east?

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My spidey senses are tingling.

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Still watching the video.

My mind is blown!

Earth is flat that's why.

Sun goes east to west as earth rotates. Moon is in middle, therefore shadow goes west to east.

Holy shit 6 minutes in now, this is good.

Watch the video.

It shows that in order for that to be the case, the moon has to basically stop. ts impossible.

The earth rotates fastest at 28 (or so) times a month which is ONE rotation of the moon around the earth.

The eclipse moving west to east is impossible.

Yeah - that was my reaction.

I found some more:
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Haven't watched these yet but they look good

You must be from london, because such logic must come from a shitskin.

Bristol, and I'm white.

I'm not really a flat earther - I just watched the video and couldn't argue it.

Can you? Please debunk if you can.

this video is soooo fucking stupid

Shit mayn why does my fist look bigger than that house over there?

ok - but say why.

There is ZERO point in just putting "I think this is wrong [fullstop]".

bump

>Can you? Please debunk if you can.

dude.

the earth is 80 times bigger than the moon.

The sun is 1,300,000 bigger than the earth. the sun is 104,000,000 times bigger than the moon. using a light bulb that is a couple times bigger than the moon in these examples is extremely fucking stupid. a more accurate representation would be shining a flashlight at the head of a fucking pin. You probably won't even be able to see the shadow, that's how small it is in comparison to the size of the object.

this is so dumb

your fist (the moon) is alot closer to you (the sun) than the earth (the house).

But the moon is WAAAAYYYYYYY closer to the earth than it is to the sun.

you might have a point about the flashlight / pin analogy, but how do you get a west to east eclipse when the earth has to spin 28 times for the moons 1.

NASAs explanation is, "the moon is spinning faster than the earth is rotating"
Makes no sense.

you know what makes me half-believe in this shit? pictures from the earth that show the moon in the background vs pictures from the moon that show the earth in the background. im not the smartest guy around, but if the earth is 4x the size of the moon, shouldn the earth in the pictures from the moon be about 4x the sive of the pictures of the moon from the earth?

That literally make no fucking difference you retard, and what a shitty way to interpret the analogy. This is almost skillful mental impairment.
Here's something I used to help explain it to my 6 year old cousin, worked for him.

Several of these pictures have varying levels of zoom, keep that in mind.

Dude.

The earth rotates at 0.3km per second.

The earth orbits the sun at 29.8km per second. The earth travels around the sun almost 100 times faster than it spins.

The video mentions converging light. Light doesn't converge like that.

>This is almost skillful mental impairment.
This made me laugh. I'm going to use this on my mates - if they ever say anything halfways skillful

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The MOON. How fast does the moon orbit compared to the earths spin?
Not faster.

Think about it - the earth has to spin 7 times for the moon to move through 1 quarter turn around the earth, but the eclipse is going to move across the WHOLE of the US in a few hours WHILE its spinning eastwards?

Makes no sense

>Think about it - the earth has to spin 7 times for the moon to move through 1 quarter turn around the earth, but the eclipse is going to move across the WHOLE of the US in a few hours WHILE its spinning eastwards?

The earth is travelling around the sun 10 times faster than it is spinning

so where are these places that are in 300+ days of darkness?

It means the earth is flat and that the jews are opening the gates of hell to let satan in to rule over the world and we wait for our lord savior jesus to return and fuck satan up.

do you have any zoom pics from earth where the moon looks 1/4 the size it should be?

Yes it does, do you ever go outside? We aren't talking about a point source of light, or a source of light sending it in a single direction. The sun is bigger than the moon ergo the penumbra will converge.
Here's one I made as volunteer work for the local special needs class.

I have a flash light in my hand no wonder those kids are still retarded.

period=/=speed
Ill keep bumping this thread until Sup Forums starts addressing the problem of severe stupidity endemic to right-wing communities. National socialist officials has IQs of 130+, degeneracy like this is unacceptable.

On the off chance that this flat-earth claim is real, what would that mean for humanity and everyday life?

Oh so you're a bit slow too. No, zoom doesn't decrease in size, the moon would be magnified in size, as oppose to the earth being shrunk. A moon that you can see trough a drinking straw does not make for very nice pictures.

I got an IQ of 130 on a mensa test.

I got a score of 158 on a non-mensa test once. That was my all time high score.

It would mean that there is a god

And you still can't figure it out with all the tools needed? Boy you must be fucking hopeless then, too bad.

Damn, mine was 6 gorrilion.

The Shadow Gets bigger not smaller.

youtube.com/watch?v=vyc49kxqRnQ

Yeah, and what are you point it at?

We are 2D

I think the earth and moon rotate around the same speed or so, thats why you always see the face of the moon and why we have never seen "the dark side"
Its actually astronomically unlikely for 2 celestial bodies orbiting each other to rotate like that

False.

The earth is 4 times bigger than the moon off diameter alone (almost 16 times bigger in surface area and 60 times bigger in mass, but these are irrelevant to eclipses).

The earth is 378,000km from the moon and 149 million km from the sun.

To correct your analogy, it's not like shining a flashlight on a pin, it's like shining a flashlight on a celestial object that is within spitting distance of another one in relation to the source of the light.

English please, I am using it as my Star in my scale model of the solar system.

> astronomically unlikely for 2 celestial bodies orbiting each other to rotate like that

Yeah - Its also unlikely for the moon to be so big compared to the earth. Most moons are tiny compared to their planet.

And its also unlikely that the moon would fit over the sun almost exactly in the way it does.

The odds have to be 6 gorrillion to one.

>what are you pointing it at?
>english please
I wonder which language that could be. What could it MEAN? Maybe that the earth is flat?
You still didn't answer my question.

>using diameter to define size and not volume (cross sectional area would also work in terms of measuring angular size, however, and might be more relevant for this topic).

a little ball made of iron basalt and magnesium...

Like I fucking told you, I am using the Flashlight in my scale model of the Solar System.

>2017
>He still believes in the globe earth
>He still believes that the (((moon))) causes eclipses and not the black sun

Wait, what the fuck?

We never see the dark of the moon, yet it rotates around the earth every 28 days.

How the fuck does it rotate around the earth every 28 days and yet stay in perfect sync (in terms of side facing us) wherever we are on the earth?

Thats the beautiful thing about Earth, we really are pure chance. Against great odds here we are.
Also have you ever noticed how the sun is a tiny bit bigger than the moon in the sky? Only attempt this early morning or right before sunset. Use sunglasses. The sun doesnt look insanely big to us, which is why its so beneficial.
This isnt difficuly

>2017
>He still believes that these astronomically impossibly low chances of something happening are really just random chance and not intelligent design

You're right. You're not the smartest guy around.

youtube.com/watch?v=dM7ukpCyYG0

Okay.

Moon surface cross-sectional is M.
This is calculated as 1/4pi x d^2. d represents diameter of moon, naturally.

Hence earth's surface cross-sectional, E, can be defined as 4M.

The Earth is SIX times larger than the moon you dumb fucking leaf

I think we're both saying its designed that way.

Whats the black sun? Got any videos on it?

The flashlight would need to be far enough away that when viewed head on through the pin, the pin almost entirely covers the light source (as we see in an eclipse).

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Holy shit you guys are dumb.


Stop treating the light source like it is a single pin point. Problem solved.

Magic, bro. Er, I mean, science you fucking mouthbreather!

I thought 80 was fucking huge

Sure, but it would be a pin very close to another (albeit larger) pin.

The pin analogy doesn't work since the moon is not a pin, it's quite large in relation to Earth.

Holy shit you are thick. It would be 16 times.

This, it's not hard.

If it's in fact much smaller than the lightsource, then it will converge. There's an outer shadow which will diverge, but there is a second inner one which has to converge, you're doing or measuring something wrong, there isn't a scenario where you are correct.

>I don't care about your experimental results.
Ok.

>Stop treating the light source like it is a single pin point. Problem solved.

Yeah, the apparent cross-sectional area of the sun is only slightly larger than that of the moon, when viewed from Earth.

The TIME required for the umbra to move across the earth is therefore the same amount of time it takes for the moon to move from being tangent to oneside of the sun to tangent to the other side. It's a fucking tiny amount of movement in terms of arc, because the apparent size of the moon is so close to the apparent size of the sun.

Just watching this one now

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Its really salting the pistachios

Fighting each other on a Japanese cartoon forum about the size of the moon. Impressive.

My bad. Don't know how that slipped by.

Regardless, it's not 80 times the size. It's still a significant proportion of the size relative to how far away we are from the sun.

Because it's overruled by the ones conducted by people who actually know what the fuck they're doing. I tried it and surprise surprise, it does exactly what math and physics says it should.

Right ill grant you that, I am just getting a little irritated. If size were interpreted as volume, which is correct but mostly useless in this instance, it should be ~64 times "larger".

but that is not the scientific method works.

Whenever I see Sup Forums talking about space it makes me want to switch to the left. You guys are so fucking retarded it hurts.

Just leave this here

You understand how a lever works? How it moves around the central pivot? Shadows work the same way you dipshit.

+how

You know what's funny in all this is depending on what you're measuring, the earth can be anywhere from 4 to 64 times bigger than the moon.

Talk about a fucking discrepancy haha

Scientific method assumes you did the test/experiment correctly, usually conducted by people with IQ>65. Humans are flawed so we require several trials and large data sets, which is still the scientific method just with more corollaries.

you guys are retarded

we are in the lab right now..

God bless you and your critical thinking skills op

Assuming you're not just trolling, but genuinely confused, look at the attached picture.

The umbra moves across the Earth as long as the moon is totally contained within the sun.

Because the apparent size of the moon is ALMOST as large as the Sun, it only stays within the sun for a very small amount of time. Meanwhile, the umbra is tracing a large path across the earth in that same small amount of time.

This is why the umbra moves so fast. It's not simply about how fast the moon is moving, but about the relative apparent sizes of the sun and moon.

"size" isn't very specific inherently, so yeah failure in our language I guess that some words only make sense with a very clearly layed out context.

Most modern science is just another belief system. It's being used by (((them))) to make people close minded and replace peoples belief in God.

Thi is the official distance and scale of sun, moon and earth

Sup Forums, where it's impossible to discern bait from legit opinions

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>Sup Forums, where it's impossible to discern bait from legit opinions

Honestly, it is counterintuitive. Most of the people shitposting here probably don't understand it.

the moon is tidally locked you dumb nigger

Wtf, red pill me on star wars, are dey da ilumatee?

too easy

Because it is. In the slice of reality that is in front of you, your fist is large than that house over in the other slice of reality. That house of there is a foggy perception of your senses. It only exists as a projection in your mind until you go over to that house and interact with it. Then you and the house are in the same reality. OR maybe I'm just stoned and talking shit.

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It's not that the philosophical approach that "everything you think you know is just input from your personal senses/perspective" is wrong, it's just useless. My empirical approach seem to work just fine, and that's all I care about, because that's as far anyone can really go and get something meaningful out of it.If everything we an learn is fake, there's no way to know what's real so why bother considering it at all?

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