When did you get out of your edgy "Heil Hitler gas the kikes" phase and become a non-retarded White advocate, Sup Forums?
White identity is not Hitler. Hitler doesn't fucking matter. It doesn't matter if the holocaust happened or not. No, Hitler was not evil incarnate. Hitler is also not the final evolved form of White identity.
Gas yourselves.
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The reality:
>Nationalism existed before Hitler. The idea that the Hitler regime defines nationalism forever after WW2 is ludicrous and ultimately comes from leftist talking points
>Both sides in WW2 were just as White nationalist as each other
>Churchill campaigned to "Keep Britain White"
>De Gaulle is considered a nasty racist by the French left today
>The Americans and Brits who died fighting Hitler didn't think they were fighting an anti racist war
>The idea that White identity = National Socialism / fascism / Hitler is a cultural marxist idea
>Nazi Germany was the lesser of two evils when contrasted with the USSR, but that doesn't make it good
Hating Hitler is just as stupid as loving him.
>inb4 this thread is pro-jewish
No, it's not
I JUST THE WORD HISPANIC TO DIE OUT SO SPANIARDS AND CRIOLLOS DON'T GET BLAMED FOR MESTIZO CRIMES
THAT'S ALL I WANT
Honestly this is the price for creating Latin American mixed shithole land to the south of the USA. People will always associate Spaniards with mestizo Hispanics, sorry man.
It's not fair, but neither is life.
Churchill was a Jewish Zionist supremacist who believed in an Anglo-Jewish world order.
Hitler was merely a German nationalist who wanted all nations including his own to be free from German hegemony
>Gas yourselves.
>write an edgy fuck Hitler thread
>condone the same activity holohoaxers say Hitler was responsible for
>youfailedfaggot.jpeg
These idiots think getting what they want is going to happen through political discourse they are just so far in the hole it isn't even funny.
>Churchill was a Jewish Zionist supremacist who believed in an Anglo-Jewish world order.
Churchill campaigned to keep Britain white. Maybe he was doing favors for the Zionists, but still
What is good propaganda? Ceding WW2 to the left is bad propaganda, it helps antiwhites.
>Hitler was merely a German nationalist who wanted all nations including his own to be free from German hegemony
this is patently false
>>write an edgy fuck Hitler thread
never said fuck Hitler, learn2read
There is no such thing as 'whites'.
We might be european, but only because our enemies are not.
Racial nationalism is only popular among those that have lost their identity and history - the eternal burger.
There is no white identity, never has been one and never will be one.
Italians can fuck off, southern europeans are scum.
You said it dude. Civic nationalism all the way.
>>Both sides in WW2 were just as White nationalist as each other
this, everyone was white nationalist by then. It was so much so that they didn't even have to name it as there was no other choice.
The brits and burgers were as racist or more so as the nazis. It's a great misconception among many nazis that we were fighting those that hated whites or europeans.
Hey Jared
>There is no such thing as 'whites'.
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>We might be european, but only because our enemies are not.
our identity is partly formed by those who are against us, so what else is new?
>Racial nationalism is only popular among those that have lost their identity and history - the eternal burger.
Bullshit. Estonian nationalism is racial. Estonians are a racial subgroup of the broader European race. All nationalism is racial, American and Australian and Canadian White nationalism just covers more than 1 European ethnic group.
>There is no white identity, never has been one and never will be one.
patently false
>Italians can fuck off, southern europeans are scum.
no one is asking you to mix with Italians or give up Estonian identity, faggot
>this thread
>civic nationalist
pick 1
hey...... idiot with no argument
>never said fuck Hitler, learn2read
>Hitler doesn't fucking matter
He mattered a lot more than you do, he was at least, inspiration and motivation to foment change. You motherfuckers get on here and are like "this was just a phase, allow me to elaborate, tralala". As if you really have anything to say.
Hitler was right about the Jews and fascism is good, but adopting National Socialist imagery wholesale and clumsily adapting it to modern America isn't a good strategy. National Socialism was a movement for 20th century Germany and while we can learn from it, like we can from all fascist groups, it's not a movement for 21st century America.
They were fighting people who fought for the Jew, but that's where the parallels end.
The term "white" isn't something new it was used to describe people of European origin who immigrated to America. Which was mostly wasps then everyone else.
>He mattered a lot more than you do
no shit I'm an anonymous poster, not the fuhrer of Germany jesus fucking christ
>he was at least, inspiration and motivation to foment change.
no shit
I can still respect the accomplishments of Hitler. We can learn from them. This thread is about getting beyond the basic bitch "muh NS" bullshit. We need to practically make a movement to awaken white racial consciousness, and the Nazi stuff actually holds us back.
Stormsperging has only ever helped antiwhites. We don't even have to know Hitler existed to support our people.
>When did you get out of your edgy "Praise Jesus our lord & savior" phase and become a non-retarded Christian advocate, Sup Forums?
>Christian identity is not Jesus. Jesus doesn't fucking matter. It doesn't matter if the resurrection happened or not. No, Jesus was not God incarnate. Jesus is also not the final evolved form of Christian identity.
>Save yourselves.
This is what you sound like, this thread makes no sense. Hitler did virtually nothing wrong.
>Hitler was right about the Jews
he was mostly right, yea
How do we get normal people to realize Jews are a problem? The way isn't through proving Hitler was a good guy, that just makes normal people think "aw da poor jooz".
I also like fascism, but I won't publicly say that.
HIDE YOUR POWER LEVEL
NIGGA
>This is what you sound like, this thread makes no sense
your comparison is completely invalid and shows that you think Hitler is like the Jesus Christ of White identity, it's pretty retarded
>Hitler did virtually nothing wrong.
Irrelevant. My point is that making him and NS a constant focus of your ideology is a losing strategy. Whether or not he was good doesn't matter.
Could I bother you to ask what that pic is? I'm very intredastered.
SURE IS /leftypol/ IN THIS THREAD.
FUCK OFF KIKES
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german american bund who were pro-hitler in America before WW2
no it's not you mindless nigger
German-American Bund. American Nazis before Rockwell was even a thing.
>I also like fascism, but I won't publicly say that.
Of course you don't say it outright, nigger. But it's getting to the point that you can basically be out as a fascist as long as you don't SAY "fascism." Say you're a Trumpist, or a nationalist, or something of that nature, and people will nod. Advocate fascist policies, and as long as you don't say "gas the kikes send the niggers back to Africa," you can mostly get them by.
Ditching veneration of Hitler? Sure. Ditching fascism or anti-Semitism or pro-white rhetoric? No way.
>Hitler was merely a German nationalist who wanted all nations including his own to be free from German hegemony
Utter nonsense, what are you on about? It's been long since i've heard such cuckery, why on earth would a german want to undermine other germans, unless he is not actually serving their interest? All actions in the war prove otherwise too.
What's up with the read comprehension of those that use the 'kekistani' flag? You seem to be completely missing OPs point.
>dailymail.co.uk
I'm not speaking of genetics senpai. No one is going to argue against europeans being a very specific genetic group of people
>our identity is partly formed by those who are against us, so what else is new?
You're confusing brotherhood with identity. We never truly are just because we have the same enemy.
> patently false
Again, identity, not abstractions of biologists or hobbyists
> no one is asking you to mix with Italians or give up Estonian identity, faggot
Yet 'white identitarians' expect us to march under a foreign flag calling for something that is so alien to all europeans. You burgers will never understand what identity is. We are germans, swedes, brits, estonians, finns, etc. We are not whatever biologists have categorised us by using some random methodology that they like. It's a great misconception that because we share the same skin colour or genetic background we are the same. The vessel without the soul is just a vessel, it's dead. The same reason why a language needs dialects to survive - a civilisation needs nations
White nationalism is a dead case since the beginning. We either kickstart a new version of nationalism or watch the hollow whiteness die out
>The term "white" isn't something new it was used to describe people of European origin who immigrated to America.
Exactly :^)
Gay lefty Bavarian here.
I never grew into that phase, also Hitler was a low-test omega sissy cuck who ate a bullet when things got heated
>:^)
DELETE THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The masses have been brainwashed too hard, the 14 might have to live on without the 88.
>Of course you don't say it outright, nigger
it's our job to do propaganda, even online. Our mission must be to get more white people to think like we do. Saying something slightly positive about fascism like "Wow Mussolini might have had a point really makes me think" is better propaganda than "VIVA IL DUCE" for instance.
>Ditching fascism or anti-Semitism or pro-white rhetoric? No way.
fascism had a lot of good to it, but again we need to avoid the label. People just hear "eeevil authoritarian" when you say 'fascist'. Learn 2 propaganda.
Smart antisemitism actually boosts antisemitism. Be a smart antisemite. Sounding like a mindless jewhating idiot works to get edgy internet kids on your side, but are you changing things really? Think about that.
And of course never give up pro-white rhetoric, that's the most important cornerstone of everything we're trying to do.
>You're confusing brotherhood with identity. We never truly are just because we have the same enemy.
obviously right now white brotherhood doesn't really exist, but it should. We need to build solidarity and unity against our common foes.
exactly
In a perfect world I'd like the general white public to think positively about Hitler. But I'm going to spend my time boosting pro-white rhetoric, not wasting it on trying to get people to re-think WW2.
>Nationalism existed before Hitler.
Obviously. Hitler's Germany was simply one of the most glorious examples.
>Both sides in WW2 were just as White nationalist as each other
No they were not.
>Churchill campaigned to "Keep Britain White"
Churchill lied.
>De Gaulle is considered a nasty racist by the French left today
Ok.
>The Americans and Brits who died fighting Hitler didn't think they were fighting an anti racist war
Obviously.
>The idea that White identity = National Socialism / fascism / Hitler is a cultural marxist idea
Not entirely. There are other options for political processes of course, but systems like International capitalism (modern US) / International socialism (communism) are by definition incompatible with preserving White identity.
>Nazi Germany was the lesser of two evils when contrasted with the USSR, but that doesn't make it good
You seem to be taking it for granted that WE were the good guys, which is objectively untrue.
>Hating Hitler is just as stupid as loving him.
No, it's more stupid.
>Obviously. Hitler's Germany was simply one of the most glorious examples.
maybe, but what matters is getting white normal people to accept your ideology, and NS imagery gets in the way of that
>No they were not.
they pretty much were
>Churchill lied.
smart propaganda means sometimes lying, we should lie and say Churchill was /ourguy/. You are HELPING antiwhites by saying the wrong side lost in WW2. Say that the allies were white nationalist, it's good propaganda
>Not entirely. There are other options for political processes of course, but systems like International capitalism (modern US) / International socialism (communism) are by definition incompatible with preserving White identity.
America pre-WW2 had sactions and wasn't just globalist capitalist, it was pro-white and wasn't NS or "fascist".
The left loves that they can claim any white person who is pro-white is somehow a "Nazi", dude.
>u seem to be taking it for granted that WE were the good guys, which is objectively untrue.
I'm just saying nazi germany was the lesser of two evils in 1930s Europe. That's an argument that can actually catch on with people. Trying to prove Nazi Germany was good is much harder. My argument of it being the lesser of two evils is smart because it disarms the antiwhite narrative m8.
>No, it's more stupid.
Hitler is only talked about so much because the left uses him as a bogeyman of "le evil white racist dictator". We need to get the fuck over him and move on.
So are you gonna make sure to ask the pesky anti-whites if you can say your last words before they kill you?
I am honing my speech for winning over normal white people to the pro-white position. It's not about appeasing the enemy, it's about becoming maximally effective in winning over /ourpeople/.
How is that not clear?
white identity politics is becoming more and more attractive to normal white people by the day, we need to maximize winning them over, that's the entire point
>white identity politics is becoming more and more attractive to normal white people by the day, we need to maximize winning them over, that's the entire point
They literally don't care because they are too busy working 80 hour weeks. This is only going to happen when a small fraction breaks of and becomes militant causing them to not be able to work or live lavishly.
Hitler is ABSOLUTELY a prime candidate for the "Jesus" of white identity. The New Testament? Mein Kampf. The Cross? The Swastika.
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>Hitler is ABSOLUTELY a prime candidate for the "Jesus" of white identity. The New Testament? Mein Kampf. The Cross? The Swastika.
this is just sad
I'm a white nationalist who will probably actually do more good than you will for our race, desu senpai
not really, white identity politics is a natural thing, and it's increasing right now, it's only going to keep increasing
I don't mean we're going to totally take over the country, but we're going to be much, much bigger in years to come.
>not really, white identity politics is a natural thing, and it's increasing right now, it's only going to keep increasing
>I don't mean we're going to totally take over the country, but we're going to be much, much bigger in years to come.
Just as many people turn away in disgust as they come over. It will always be a fight where 50% of whites will kill you because it makes them feel icky being racist;/pro-white.
they share blood with your people
Ok, I understand what you're trying to say here and I even marginally agree, but you're making some incorrect assumptions that i'd like to address.
>honing your speech, maximally effective, etc
Obviously you should never open with "HITLER DID NUFFIN WRONG, GAS EM ALL NAO!" when trying to spread White consciousness. I am sorry to inform you however, that this strategy of "dropping the 88" will never actually succeed in the long term the way that you want it to.
The enemy has never played fair, and he's certainly not about to start. (((He))) owns the presses & controls all of the institutions. You can condemn Hitler with every other breath, but if you speak publicly for White identity.... you will be "a Nazi". Period. (There are countless examples, and even someone as muted and unaffiliated as Trump was given the label)
Secondly, while I agree with what your saying in the context of outreach and public presence, that is not what this board is for. This is the one place where we CAN speak the entire truth, and your post seemed to be attempting to alter "Sup Forums" behavior (which I disagree with) rather than public behavior (which I completely agree with).
For example, I have NEVER spoken positively of Hitler IRL to anyone outside of my immediate family/fiance. Is this the sort of discretion that you are attempting to promote? If so, then it appears that we are on the same page here.
Attempting to "out-sneak" the Jews is no simple task, I would suggest taking note of George Rockwell's tactics, as he was the last person who publicly bore the swastika AND respect that I know of.
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Additionally Hitler is not quite so universally despised as you may have been led to believe...
>vid extremely related
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my hitler phase lasted maybe 2 weeks. short but intense
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that film is actually trying to make ordinary germans look racist, it's not accurate
I know the movie is a propaganda attempt, I wasn't born yesterday. The salient point here is that there were a lot of real encounters like that...the actor was apparently taken aback at how many people came up to him like that.
White Nationalist user, we see your American flag. Next time you found a country based on the principle of freedom for all mankind, be sure to specify European people only.
Not sure if this is bait or not.
read the constitution sometime?
Then they will just say "white" people don't exist which is essentially saying europeans don't exist since it was used to describe wasps then most other European immigrants later on.
Not bait.
No I'm no anti-white retard, but being not so specific is why we're at where we are.
Well every country in the world didn't keep their identity and also couldn't spot the Jews parading as white people. They sold their countries for iphones,cars and shitskin ethnic food.
Yes. Democracy does not work.
spoiler alert: it never will
Well Aristotle said when a constitutional government becomes perverted it becomes a democracy. I am not sure if all the terms line up to today's political definitions tho so it may not apply.
I just want national socialism in america...kikes have got to fucking go.
they were all staged though to make the normal germans look "racist"
it was literally antigerman
sorry m8
I don't hate Hitler, either, but that's just the fact
we all want things
this thread is asking how are we going to get them?
open national socialism calling itself national socialism or using the term "kikes" won't change shit.
We need to hide our power levels and advance into white minds. The antiwhite PC left didn't start on day 1 with "fug YT deth2murka", they evolved to that.
We must be crafty to make change,
So you plan is to out jew the jew? You should know better by now. The only way to beat the jew is to pull him into the light.
>White identity
No such thing
>this retarded argument again
white nationalism means slovenia for the slovenians
it's not a himalaya climbing task to outjew the jew
jews did what they did through determination and unity, pushing a single agenda nonstop
The only way to win is to win over white minds. I am not saying that none of us should be extreme radicals, but we need people who open the doors to radicalism
If you talk positively about something radical but you do it in a normal and calm way, you open up more minds
THE GOAL = WINNING WHITE MINDS
whatever helps that, do that
>slovenia for the slovenians
What's retarded is keeping the "White" part. It's just nationalism.
They were obviously not all staged, you can even see multiple people who refused to have their faces shown in the filming throughout.
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Slovenians should care about all Europeans
Slovenia wouldn't survive if every country surrounding them was a 99% arab muslim shithole, dude
We all need to unite together. White nationalism cares about all European nations. We need each other. If it's just one European nation surviving, the muslim shitskin hordes will gobble it up.
ok fair enough, still...
I don't hate Hitler at all. I also think though that if German is saved, it won't be some kind of reawakening of pro-Hitler sentiment.
Hell, maybe im wrong, but I don't think I am
>white nationalism means slovenia for the slovenians
No retard, that's Slovene nationalism, not some kike invention that is civic (white) nationalism.
WN is designed for American mongrels that have too many nationalities in their background and therefore can't identify themselves as a particular white, just like "black pride" is an umbrella term for American porch monkeys that don't know their real ancestry.
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holy shit you're dumb
white nationalism is the inversion of civic nationalism
you're such a dumb cunt, white nationalism is for Australia, America and New Zealand and Canada - All European nationalisms are inherently white nationalist
>European nationalists are inherently white nationalist
No retard, we have thousands of years of culture to not identify with an umbrella term. No shit we're white, but we're more focused on Klaus not collectively fucking us over every 50 years rather than >muh white european identity lol 1488 kill shitskins
All the countries you've mentioned have only been inhabited by whites the past 400 years, that's why WN works there. These countries have NO identity other than skin colour. It only works in mongrel countries.
Actually you're right, Hitler wasn't that great, you can have a perfect national socialist utopia without all the edgy authoritarian bullshit.
White nationalism means Netherlands for the Dutch, faggot, stop complaining.
He's clearly a burger, it's different for us. We have to specify it as white nationalism due to our European-hybrid status. We are the great "melting pot", remember? Americans just identify as White, we don't separate ourselves into German-American or Italian-American or whatever.
>pic related
>check muh master-race genetics
Ah, I knew I forgot something! Thanks for the lookout as usual Norbro, you're a trooper.
that's a very unusual mix
most of us are just anglo/german/irish and maybe italian/polish. We're fucking western europeans who would pass as natives in almost all of northwestern Europe for fuck's sake
The idea that White Americans are "mongrels" is fucking stupid. The royals of any country are a hybrid of European ethnic stocks. Are they "mongrels" too? Fucking retarded
Yeah, I doubt it will happen. In any case, I care about my country and I let others care about theirs.
This "white nationalism" concept has no meaning anywhere in Europe.
No retard, that's Dutch nationalism. It excludes Germans and Britons despite them being white. Kys ignoramus.
fuck yaself, cunt.
don't talk shit about my big brother.
WRONG
Sure they were both white nationalist, but only one side was aware of the jewish question. This puts one side at a distinct superior position idealogically, allies were fools. Instead of defeating the real enemy, they defeated themselves. You deny this? Look at present clownworld and shut the fuck up
Hello former colony, how does it feel to be absolutely irrelevant?
>It excludes Germans and Britons despite them being white
no fucking shit you moron
but britain and germany being turkish islamic caliphates would kind of fuck over the dutch too, you know. Dumb nigger
at the rate things are going, many European countries are becoming shitskin
It fucks over all Europeans for any European country to become a shitskin caliphate, retard.
That's why white nationalism matters. Europeans have to work together for their continent. You don't have the luxury of your biggest enemy being Slovaks anymore or Italians or whatever. Sorry.
All Europeans are being fucked over by nonwhite invasion now. Wake up.
>, but only one side was aware of the jewish question.
only partly true
Seriously look up Churchill quotes on kikes. The meme of the allies being just as pro-white is GOOD PROPAGANDA. Please, help our race and spread this meme, whether or not it's 100% true.
This topic is dumb divide and conquer shill shit. Nazis are cool. Swastikas are cool. White girls tend to react well when you reveal your power level. The ones who don't were already faggy lesbians who tell jokes about their vaginas.
You have no argument from the start, you're clueless as hell because you're a subhuman nigger that doesn't understand European history.
>. White girls tend to react well when you reveal your power level.
Yea what date went well with "You know honey Hitler was really great" ?
No you dumb cunt, I know what Dutch nationalism is, and I know it doesn't include Germans or British. God you dumb fuck.
If all of Europe is fucking shitskin'd that fucks over the Netherlands, too. That's why you need white nationalism. You're such a dumb cunt. The history of the Netherlands is deeply tied up with the history of the rest of Europe, anyway.
You fucking Europeans in Europe (I'm a European in America) aren't more knowledgeable about Europe than we are. There are plenty of dumb ignorant cunt Europeans in Europe, too.
I don't give a fuck about richard spencer, seriously get over yourself with that shit.
feels pretty great, how does it feel to be absolutely overrun with boatloads of immigrants? Can't go somewhere you don't know exsists.
it's so smart for Dutch nationalists to piss on Europeans who are pro-Netherlands for the Dutch, isn't it?
genius!
You don't need "white" nationalism if you never considered nonwhites to be Dutch to begin with.
Why are you even talking, you ran off to the bastion of degeneracy and zionism and have the nerve to talk shit, you're a fucking coward.
Mhm, people who say that shit are usually trolling or just retarded. I'd take a "mixed" European girl over a "pure" Ethopian any day of the week.
Mongrels are products of race mixing, White Americans are hybrids. We are the true European Man.
>cute doggos somewhat related
good luck with your dutch nationalism when france, england and germany are all over 50% nonwhite, you dumb cunt
I'm sure that a Dutch Netherlands is going to survive in a shitskin'd Western Europe. Moron.
yea seriously.
Nigel Farage is part French and part German, but no one says he isn't a quintessential Englishman. The anti-American stuff is stupid as fuck. I hate the U.S. govt but White American rightwingers are good people.
Dutchfag is a total cuck
>be fake european
>lives in an even less white country
>complains about nonwhites in Europe
Who's the moron again?
>be dumb dutchman is browning continent
>"fuck u racial kinsman for caring about my heritage"
You're a fucking idiot. You are a shame to the Netherlands.
There is no reason that we can't or shouldn't help each other whenever it is possible to do so. Have you learned nothing from the history of Europe?
We are all allies in this fight, don't get so hung up over the technicalities here. Nobody is asking you to stop being a Slovenian, but you should recognize that we are ALL white europeans. We may be very different, but we are far more alike than either of us are to an African.
The Greek city-states banded together to fight the Persian empire during the invasions 2,500 years ago. They didn't stop being Spartans, Athenians, or Thebians in the process.
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careful, the term "white" will probably trigger the eurocucks into getting asscancer because reasons.
Holy fuck why are some people so stupid?
nah dude I hate kikes
kill yourself, you commie puke. Stop spamming the board with these threads
I'm actually going through this phase right now, I'm becoming a traditionalist.
Gonna miss the memes.
You don't have to worry about us surviving any invasion, we fought off the nazis after all.
>muh cucks white nationalism kikes trigger
I'm a rightwing WN, not a commie, retard
You're so dumb, just stop. There is no reason why non-Slovenian Europeans wanting a Slovenia for the Slovenes and being pro-Slovene shouldn't be good in your mind. You're a moron.
The memes can be fun. Just don't take them autistically seriously. People who try to build their entire fucking ideology on old natsoc concepts are the problem.
The only reason you grow out of the phase if because you sense that it is unlikely to come to fruition at any point in the immediate future. But believe me, if the situation rapidly changed for some reason, all of those "traditionalists" would be the first in line screaming "GAS THOSE FUCKING KIKES"