Anarchy/communist

i don't get it.

anarchy = no government
communist = big government opposing on your life and taking your shekels

the fuck?

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on of you red/black faggots can explain yourselves?

Not an ancom because I'm not retarded but basically from what I understand, it's what you would think communism is but without a central government. The people are the government so basically there is no government, just people running the show. It would be like instead of a traditional factory with a hierarchy, the workers just do their own thing and trust eachother to do exactly what they need to do. It's really dumb desu. Take a look at Catalonia if you're really interested.

anarchy is like get rid of the government now and everyone will become equal

communism is like take control of the government and make it so big that it ceases to exist

anarchy: no government
communism: means of production have been seized, no class, no money, no state

so its america as it should be? so it's not communist at all? they call for thieving your cash for everyone else. by force. communist. not anarchy.

>communism: means of production have been seized, no class, no money, no state
but how is that achieved?

It's never been tried no one knows

Think of it like this.

Anarcho-communism:
>no government
>no property
>authoritarian mob tells you what you can do

Anarcho-capitalism:
>no government
>property
>you can do whatever you want as long as it doesn't violate the NAP

by seizing production, for the betterment of everyone else, they would have to use force against you. not anarchy.

>authoritarian mob tells you what you can do
>authoritarian
>anarchy is without authority
they would fail miserably.

Heres a quick rundown
>anarchy
exactly are retarded as it sounds, would quickly devolve from hippy utopia to roving bands of warlords raping and looting
>socialism
Government owns and controls everything
>communism
Hypothetical magical utopia that happens after socialism seize and the wealth. These fuckers are so stupid that they think that an all controlling socialist government is just magically going to dissolve and then we will basically all live together and nobody will own anything and we will all just share. And also there will be no money and everyone will just work what they are able and only take what they need.

Here is the rankings in terms of retardedness
>socialism
actually feasible if you want to live in a shitty dictatorship
>anarchy
fucking retarded but would work up until the first guy says "hey lets make a militia and go fuck everybody else up, whose going to stop us, the cops? Lmao"
>communism
pants on head retarded

>seizing production
what does this mean? Who is doing the seizing?

>they would fail miserably.
And they always have. Turns out when you reject hierarchy in its entirety getting organized enough to rebel is a little difficult.

in an anarchy society you would be able to fight against the group, form your own group or join one. that can't happen in a socialist shitty dictatorship.

a group of faggots who can be defeated and eliminated.

>anarchy is without authority

What does this mean?

>in an anarchy society you would be able to fight against the group, form your own group or join one.
At the start this is true but only until one of the groups established dominance in an area and basically forms a state. Or until one group conquers all of the rest and forms a dictatorship.

look up the term anarchy, idiot.

>in an anarchy society you would be able to fight against the group, form your own group or join one


So mad max?

move away then. in an anarchy society you can form a shithole communist state, but there isn't a federal government opposing force stopping you from leaving. just like if a snowflake doesn't like not being taxed and having to work for himself.

They think "the people" run the society. What they don't tell you is it is a select group of people...they fail to put 2 and 2 together and realize its exactly the same as a government.

lol
yes.
you can't blame anyone else for your shitty life but yourself.

>move away then.
Where? Do you think life is like an MMORPG? There isn't going to be wide stretches of unclaimed land, unless you literally want to live in a mad max society

it would be anarchy. you're assuming the vast majority would be commies. you're wrong.

>there isn't a federal government opposing force stopping you from leaving
Until the fucking local warlord decides to make one. I'm not sure what this world of yours looks like in your headcannon but im operating under the assumption that you are implying a hypothetical world in which there is only anarchy.

and if the vast majority are commies, it wouldn't be anarchy. it would be communism. go fuck yourself.

>local
then get the fuck out.

>then get the fuck out.
My whole point is that anarchists have no way of defending themselves from organized states/warlords with armies. You could run for a while but eventually they will come to claim all the land on the planet, just like real life.

then it isnt anarchy, idiot. it would be communism.

Thats the whole point you fucking retard, anarchy is unsustainable, something else will always conquer it. Therefore it is a shitty system that can't even defend itself against literally anything else.

>ts the whole point you fucking retard, anarchy is unsustainable, something el
you're saying anarchy will become communism. ya, you're the retard here.

>you're saying anarchy will become communism
when the fuck did I say that. It will fail and become something else. Could be communist, could be fascism, could be imperialism, could be a fucking Islamic caliphate. Anarchism is stupid because it will lose when anyone decides to invade anarchist territory.

>you can do whatever you want as long as it doesn't violate the NAP

What will happen if someone violates the NAP then?

Moron

Leftists have very warped perception of what words mean.
When you hear anarchy you think no government.
When a leftist hears anarchy they think wearing a mask and throwing a brick trough a window.
When you hear communism you think a centrally planned economy with the government taking over all aspects of production, the importance of money is diminished or done away completely.
When a leftist hears communism they think free stuff.

You have to think like a leftist to understand a leftist.
When they call themselves Anarcho Communists what you should be hearing is ''I want to dress in all black and attack right wingers, and smash random cars, and I want you to pay for my lifestyle''.

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NAP isn't a law, it's just explaining how things would work without a government.
If someone punches you, you can punch them back.
If someone breaks into your house, you can shoot them.
Those aren't laws that are written down, NAP is just a logically consistent examination of how people respond to aggression.

If I shot someone right now, I'd be in deep fucking trouble, and not just because of the police. If someone attacked me and I shot them in self-defense, I wouldn't be in much trouble.
That is the NAP in a nutshell.

actually the tl:dr of NAP should be something like this
>if someone initiates aggression on you, you have the moral justification for retaliation

anarchy = no hierarchy

communism = people live in a giant commune

that's to put it simply for your dumb nazi brain

The difference between Anarchy & Ochlarchy

Ochlarchy (mob rule): Violent supremacy through actions of a police-like force.

Anarchy (An-ar-chy): Anarchism (An-ar-chism) is the system and management without rulers.

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Communists are stupid enough to believe that once the state is destroyed people will just choose of their own free will to equally distribute the resources.

Of course this is fucking stupid because if you destroy the government no one has a monopoly on power so no one can enforce contracts etc and industry collapses meaning their are no resources being produced to share out.

Also, no productive citizen would willingly without the coersion of the state Gib sheckles to the unproductive members of society because why should I fuck you get a job hippie.

The only scenario in which this works is where resources are infinite (star trek utopia), automation etc.

Unfortunately some Communists are deluded enough to believe that the world already does produce practically infinite resources already and so it's just ebil greedy capitalists that prevent the sharing that is supposed to happen.

While this is true, (there is actually enough food produced to feed the world many times over every year) in destroying the market we go from producing way more than enough resources that are badly distributed, to producing no nearly enough resources under a communist enonomy which would theoretically equally distribute resources (obviously this is historical my untrue)

That meme that Communists would rather everyone been poor than some be rich is actually true, they really are that resentful/jealous.

TLDR: Communists are stupid enough to believe that fundamental ly humans all believe exactly as they do and would happily give everything they produce for no reason without being forced to for their entire lives.

Aside from contraveneing human nature anarcho communism is philosophically consistent and was the communism described by Carl marx. It's the only real communism are you is it retarded

Anarchism and communism are both Jewish ideolgies and both are degerading.

Anarchism isn't a jewish ideology. It's the ideology of whoever isn't in power, it's the fantasy of taking down the government you dislike. It has always existed. You'd have to be retarded to think the peasants who were ruled by kings didn't think things would be better if everyone living in the castle died of the pox.
It's certainty an attractive idea. If the government is doing terribly, and it always is, it's not too much of a stretch to assume things would be better if you got rid of the government.
For example, I think we can all agree that in the US things would be better if government pulled out of healthcare entirely. The free market would handle healthcare much better than the shitshow that is the US government.

Yeah Homage to Catalonia will give you a good idea on how well it works.

This is the problem with their bullshit.
Charismatic leader forms a group of compatriots. He takes over production. You have a warlord. Others do the same and soon you have warlords warring with one another until the most powerful wins. They create a dynasty from their descendants. So I guess you could say that if you want Monarchy, then support the anarcho syndicalist bullshit.

Shit tattooist.