Today we Croats are celebrating the 22nd anniversary of the Operation Storm, a military operation which freed our country of the Serbian occupation. At this occasion we would like to thank our Russian friends who, when given the choice of helping either Croatia or Serbia in the war decided to go with Croatia. Thousands of tons of weapons were sent to Croatia through Russian channels, while Serbs didn't receive anything. There is no Russo-Serbian brotherhood. Russians don't respect weaklings.
The Presidents of the two breakaway Yugoslav republics visited Germany this week, and Mr. Kohl told both of them of his decision to recognize their republics as sovereign nations. Several other countries, including Sweden, Italy, Austria and Hungary, are likely to follow Germany's lead.
Ok lets try again. The verb you are looking for is "recoginze", as in: >Germany recognized the independence of [enter country here]. Germany didn't "declare" independence since that would mean they, themselves, had to go through a phase of recognition.
As to you question: >Explain to me why Germany so wanted to start a war in the Balkans?
Why are Germans trying to start wars where ever they go? Why were they arming Saddam and the Peshmerga? Why were they selling arms to Assad and Saudi Arabia, which then shipped the weapons to ISIS?
They are trying to spread their financial influence by dismantling other countries, destroying their economies and then buying everything up at much lower prizes. Typical Übermensch. Act like a monkey, but still think you are morally superior.
Sebastian Gonzalez
>Russia sells us weapons\
Germany did. Germany armed you. Russia supported Serbia.
Nicholas Clark
Well, we are going with the flow. Germans choose their partners based on common interests and financial profit. Why shouldn't we?
Luke Peterson
Sure, Serbs admit that Russian didn't support them in their own newspapers. Russian diplomats admit to selling arms to Croatia en mass. Croatian diplomats admit to buying arms from Russia. But Hans knows better, right? Get the fuck of here.
Lucas Flores
Not. Russia recognized us before America did. Nobody was really our ally, all of the world embargo'd us and put UN buffer zones to prevent taking occupying territory back
Noah Ramirez
>flag
Anthony Jones
>Germany advocated quick recognition of Croatia, in order to stop ongoing violence in Serb-inhabited areas, with Helmut Kohl requesting recognition in the Bundestag on 4 September. Kohl's position was opposed by France, the United Kingdom[69][page needed], and the Netherlands, but the countries agreed to pursue a common approach by following Germany's unilateral action. On 10 October, two days after the Croatian Parliament confirmed the declaration of independence, the EEC decided to postpone any decision to recognize Croatia for two months. German foreign minister Hans Dietrich Genscher later wrote that the EEC decided to recognize Croatian independence in two months if the war had not ended by then. With the war still ongoing when the deadline expired, Germany presented its decision to recognize Croatia as its policy and duty. Germany's position was supported by Italy and Denmark. France and the UK attempted to prevent German recognition by drafting a United Nations resolution requesting that no country take unilateral actions which could worsen the situation in Yugoslavia.
It was because of the S*rbshits violence.
Jace Lopez
>fight for independence from a communist political union >immediately join another one
Chase Jenkins
thank nigel for ur wisdom
Ian Clark
Stop spaming.
This is a thread dedicated to the Russo-Croatian brotherhood. If you'd like to talk about the German-Croatian friendship start you own thread.
Isaac Ward
Believe your lies. Believe them all you want. You're beliefs are in direct opposition of what really is true.
Jaxson Lopez
Because the same old commies still run this country. When yugoslavia fell they just rebranded themselves as left and right winged parties. Many members of our parliament are literally former members of the SKH (Croatian alliance of communists)
Carter Stewart
It's ok četnik. Maybe in the next war Russia will support you.
Carter Baker
this. all over again.
Christian Stewart
>Serbia creates independent state within Croatia >Serbian occupation >Muslims create independent state withing Serbia >Serbian occupation
Gabriel Cruz
Lies to complicate relations with the Balkan states notably Serbia. Russia supported and armed Serbia in the war, not Croatia. Never.
>Serbia kills and dispossesses thousands of Croats >Attacks Croats in all regions of the country >Try to kill the Croatian president multiple times, even by firing rockets at the presidential palace in Zagreb
Serbs: Why would anyone say we occupied somebodies territory?
Cetnicism is a mental illness.
David Evans
Jesus, you should really seek help from a doctor. If you can't handle the truth you probably shouldn't bother going into this topic. I know it hurts. All your life you've been told that Russia is you big brother only to find out that they don't give a rats shit about you. But that's just how it is. And should there be a new war, they will support us again.
Owen Reed
>Cries about muh thousands innocent Croats in 1990's >Makes fun of Jasenovac concentration camp where over 100k Serbs were killed during 1941-45
William Gutierrez
Russia would of course help a nation that endorsed Hitler. Stop it with your shills.
Carter James
Stop being obsessed with Russia they are opportunist faggots like USA is. They did arm the Croats. When commies killed Tsar Nicholas that was the end of Serbian-Russian friendship. This now is just larp.
Christian Gray
No we make fun of your claim of 600 gorillion Serbs. First it was 1.3 million, then 700K, then 300K, now even the most pro-Serbian historians say that it was probably less than 100K. And everyone know that half of those were actually people killed by the partisans between 1946-1950. If the Serbs were this secure about their position they wouldn't have burned all the evidence.
Also, more than 2000 Croats who participated in the war were convicted of war crimes by Croatian courts in Croatia. That's how you own up to your mistakes. Not by hiding yourself in a house of lives cause you can't cope with the miserable reality you created.
Blake Bailey
>being this triggered
Connor Ward
*Sends Troops to Russian border*
We really are rats.
Justin Davis
>muh eternal brotherhood back to facebook underage
Elijah Jenkins
Listen i dont deny that war in Croatia was a retarded thing and that Serbs killed innocent people and did very fucked up stuff but why do always people have to demonize us in every 90's war. You all act like special snowflakes and unicorns when you killed people too and looted the Serb homes and destroyed the Churches as much as Serbs did to Croats in 90's. Like Independence of Republika Srpska is a bad horrific sad thing and everyone is disgusted by it while Everything else against Serb is awesome because we were literally Hitler. You people have a victim syndrome you are obsessed with us, you hate us more than you love your own homeland why are your minds revolving constantly around Serbs?
Matthew Edwards
The only good thing in your corner of the world is Slovenia. The rest of you are all cancer.
Jacob Diaz
The hatred towards serbs brings us together. Once you or other nations are left out of the equation, we hate each others guts again. I wouldn't change it IMO. Nationalism is bluepilled.
Zachary Sanchez
>but why do always people have to demonize us You did this to yourself. Imagine what the balkan would look like if you just let us and Slovenia secede peacefully. We would have immediately split Bosnia (as was the initial deal between Tuđman and Milošević), and when the shitstorm in Kosovo began a few years later you could have thrown the whole JNA at them and shut it down before anyone in the west could respond. Instead you declared war on the whole balkan and committed ethnic cleansing all across Bosnia. Not a single Croatian soldier ever set foot on your side of Dunav. You're the one who invaded us - and now you're surprised that everyone sees you as the aggressor.
And yes, we did some nasty stuff too. But by the end of the war, we had no problems hiding it or blaming it on you, since you already painted a giant target on yourself with all the shit you've previously done. Your foolishness is the reason we got away with it.
Elijah Howard
In 1989 the Workers' Militia (paramilitary of the Hungarian communist party) was disbanded. They had like 10 000 AKs stocked in their armories. Somehow these guns disappeared. Somehow, nobody know how they appeared in Croatia a few years later. It's really a mistery.
Ryan Jackson
Right now, these AKs are in circulation in organized crime cyndicats in the Netherlands among other countries. Imported in bulk cheaply from Croatia.
Jeremiah Price
conflict between Serbia and Croatia didn't start in the 90s, it started long time ago in the WW1 when croats became race traitors and sided with germs against slavic bretherns, continually trying to annihilate serbians out of existance
99.9% of croatia, be that the elites or the common peasants still profoundly gets triggered whenever the WW1 and WW2 war crimes against serbians are even remotely mentioned it really makes you wonder?
you claim moral and intellectual superiority but you historic war crimes are amongst the gruesome and savage ones and our schollars, students and academics beat the shit out you at every international competition where mathemathics, physics, science, etc. are involved
you' managed to ruin to most preosperous and powerful corporation in the balkans which market share monopoly were given to you on a silver plate you're 25 years war free on a EU life support and yet you have a staggering unemployment abnormal corruption completely dependent state on a single revenue stream line surviving from tourism zero industry negative birth rates and a massive brain drain
i'm yodeling mate
Cameron Morales
It's still funny that nobody cared about the embargo and Croatians were able to buy weapons everywhere. Also the money that they paid for the weapons, were stolen buy the politicans, and nobody really know, who profited from it. Truly the 90s were an amazing period.
Ethan Howard
imagine what the balkans would have looked like if we dropped you under the bus after you chimped out and helped germs plagued tens of millions of european christians
becasue that's what you deserved for
Cameron Wilson
i gde ces jaceg dokaza da ste vestacka abortirana nacija iz epruvete koja je ipak nekako prezivela
pogledaj samo ta odvratna i ruzna hrvatska imena koja nemaju nikave veze sa slovenskom kulturom, lingvistikom, jezikomi tradicijom znaci nema tog hrvatskog imena koje koren vuce iz staroslovenskog jezika Ante Franjo kreshimir horvat tudjman ivo zrinski stipe
JEBEM MU MATER KOLKO RUZNA IMENA IMATE
u medjuvremene nas imena\ BOGdan OGNJEN MARKO\ ZDRAVko Nemanja Petar Djordje Nikola VLADIMIR
nije lako nositi se sa teretom vase jadnog i mizernog postojanja
"Omen est Nomen"
William Roberts
How much truth the words of a certain infamous song have.
>Sve je isto samo njega nema.
Cameron Reed
svaki ratni tred mi uljepša dan majke mi
Levi Sanchez
bravo, daj pet
Brody Bell
svaka silovana nemica i prebijeni americki goja su dvojica manje olosa koji ce stati da vas brane kad vam se u najskorijoj buducnosti budemo najebali majke za sve kompletno sa kamatom
kao po starom dobrom obicaju kada svaki put na kraju izgubite
tik tok ustasho tik tok
Eli Jones
>ova stara uzegla fora
tvoj deda konjusar nije mogao da da pet zato sto je popio po jezuitskoj picki
Levi Reyes
>why are your minds revolving constantly around Serbs?
easy political points and general lack of perspective
the only worthwhile thing Croatia ever accomplished was winning that fucking war
and there is nothing else to be proud of, most people turn to that
David Thomas
>and there is nothing else to be proud of, most people turn to that
and WHEN there is nothing else to proud of, most people turn to that
Blake Bennett
> was winning that fucking war but desu even that was done nato, npri and blackwaters with a dash of UN strongly worded concerns and massive fake news shillings croats only did the legwork without a proper war organisation and a war plan which croats massively lacked given with their war inexperience, the storm and would have been futile
Ethan Foster
>the only worthwhile thing Croatia ever accomplished was winning that fucking war We fought turks for 700 years straight to keep them out of this land. Stop being such a self-loathing cuck
Chase Flores
USSR was teaming up with Hitler in the beginning, even sent supplies them.
until serbs came and stole our sikret vatican space technology
Dominic Gonzalez
that's all true, and I don't give a fuck
I'm just telling you why croatians are obsessed with serbs and the war
Liam Kelly
Oh yes, Europe would have fallen without your military prowess.
Benjamin Wright
>We fought turks for 700 years straight funny way of spelling 'we cleaned our Austrian lords shit for 700 years' Honestly I don't remember Croats fighting on the borders or raising revolts
Austin Brooks
good good ante
acceptance is the first step towards the reconciliation
you must be on of those "normal ones" from Istra
Joshua Hall
Man, Slavs are really really stupid. Always fighting over petty shit. That's why we will always be exploited by everybody - Germans, Anglos, Jews.
And your cherries got poped by Sokolovic and his Jannisary hordes
Jason Ross
>cherry picking Ok, how about the ~450 years you spent as slaves and cannonfodder, willingly killing fellow Europeans and christians to please your turkish masters while they were fucking your women back home?
Ryder Barnes
can't find a single battle where you fought on your own WITHOUT BANDWAGONING the rest of 247 european kingdoms
John Butler
that battle is funny,the Ottomans were losing the entire fight until 1000 heavy Serbian knights (Gusars) came and demoralized the crusaders.
Connor Torres
bad bait mate
Thomas Gutierrez
Lmao Serbs are the biggest cucks in Europe, even worse than the Swedes.
>muhhh Russian brothers *enemy country gets tons of Russian weapons* >brate brate muh Putin will save us *gets bombed to shit, Russia laughs* >t-they c-couldn't help up then but they will in the future *Gives up half the economy to Russia in return for 4 rusted jets from the 1980s*
Bwhahahaha faggot cucks
Evan Jackson
Fuck off croat-roach, the only thing you're good for is game of thrones.
Ryder Martinez
>*enemy country gets tons of Russian weapons* False. That's a lie.
Joshua Martinez
>t. summerfag
pls leave
Benjamin Adams
add 300 more for the catholized mongols
no wonder they call it TISUCULJETNJA HISTORIJA KEK
OP is a dis-info shill working for his faggy country.
Dylan Torres
>When the ukranian is right.
It wont ever stop, because balkniggers can see past their nose.
Zachary Mitchell
Why do Serbs not like their greatest ally?
Attorney Itay Mack and Professor Yair Oron, presented the court with concrete evidence of Israeli defense exports to Serbian forces at the time, including training as well as ammunition and rifles. Among other things, they presented the personal journal of General Ratko Mladić, currently on trial at the International Court of Justice for committing war crimes, crimes against humanity, and genocide. Mladić’s journalexplicitly mentions Serbia’s ample arms ties with Israel
Oliver Morales
>russians don't respect weaklings >get steamrolled by serbs for 4 years until Daddy NATO gave you a hand
LOL! Fuck off Zvonko
Eli Russell
>nazbol flag fuck off leftypol pl0x
Liam Nelson
Serbs and Israeli are kinsmen ofcourse we like them
>>Milan Babić >>confesses to the war crimes in Croatia >>Begs forgiveness
Is he a hero in Serbia, or a traitor?
Eli Foster
I've always been interested by the Serbs of Croatia, do they have a different accent/dialect to Serbs of Serbia, Montenegro etc?
Carson White
He's a nobody
Oliver Richardson
Every part of Serbia has it's own accent but Serbs from Croatia have the same gay accent as Croats from Slavonia have.
Owen Morales
Was Krajina an actual functioning republic? Did they get assistance from Belgrade?
Brody Wright
Krajina was a region that wanted autonomy not a state,it only got funded by Belgrade in the beggining until inflation hit Serbia hard so we stopped funding them,but they still managed to hold of Croats for 4 years which is funny.
Caleb Harris
No. It was kind of like Mad Max actually. With raider gangs and everything. Sort of like Africa with warlords and shit.
Christian Hughes
Of course they do, like Sicilians have different dialect compared to somebody form Milan.
They speak mostly Croatian but still use ekavica dialect, meaning they dont have ije and je in words.
(cvijeće--cveće, mlijeko---mleko)
Juan Rivera
I see, did any of your family go and fight there?
gotcha , man this part of the world is interesting
Zachary Clark
Wrong you dumbass. They speak strong ijekavica. Mlijeeeko, krompijeeer, Lijeeeka, vrijeeeme... That's because their dialect comes from Montenegrin language.
Owen Diaz
my dad and uncle they are twins so they joined together,pay was shit so they had to resort to looting abandoned houses.
