Can Sup Forums redpill me on masturbation? How often should a healthy man masturbate in order to keep his mind clear...

Can Sup Forums redpill me on masturbation? How often should a healthy man masturbate in order to keep his mind clear, but how often should he not masturbate in order to not lose his masculine essence and fall into an addicted mindset?

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reddit.com/r/NoFap/comments/3oyq0f/nofap_and_iq/
youtube.com/watch?v=GiOWjMaZVbw
yourbrainonporn.com/men-does-frequent-ejaculation-cause-hangover
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12914589#
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20875461
jneurosci.org/content/34/26/8825.long
youtube.com/watch?v=7oFVOJf0TzY&feature=youtu.be
youtube.com/watch?v=f4VyIoeJsDY
yourbrainonporn.com/studies-reported-relationships-between-porn-use-or-porn-addictionsex-addiction-and-sexual
yourbrainonporn.com/studies-find-escalation-porn-users
yourbrainonporn.com/sex-addiction
yourbrainonporn.com/adolescents-pornography
yourbrainonporn.com/brain-scan-studies-porn-users
yourbrainonporn.com/porn-pseudoscience-and-δfosb
yourbrainonporn.com/deltafosb-sustained-molecular-switch-addiction-2001
yourbrainonporn.com/content/basics-rebooting
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Also I recognize that porn is unnatural and unhealthy for the human mind and have vowed to never use it again. However, I recognize that masturbation is necessary in order to keep my mind from being overwhelmed with sexual thoughts, I'm just wondering how exactly other Sup Forumstards go about their self-servicing practices.

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Here's my fucking dilemma
>nofap for 2+ weeks
Lose sex drive, don't even wake up with morning wood. Complete Eunuch mode.
>fap 1-2 times a week
Resets my inner demon and I end up fapping every day again.

NoFap is a stupid meme and I hate how people are falling for it.

I would like to know this, myself.

Going just off instinct lately. Porn is clearly degenerate and poison for the mind and should be avoided. Libido has to be channeled somehow, like into a workout or into any kind of work.

I've been fapping once a week to not get fucked by Lilith in my sleep.

((()))

Have my bump, I want to see where this is going.

Life is better when you don't jack off. Get a wife and have real sex.

Before getting into a relationship I did two long Nofap streaks to reboot away from fapping and porn, one of 96 days, and another of 89.

Nofap changed my life. Porn is pure poison for the body and mind. You're a cuck and fool if you like porn.

Got rid of my porn collection a while back and my erections are slowly but surely coming back. feelsgoodman, even rockhard from just sexting with my date the other night. I haven't been able to fap much since my cock won't rise occasionally now without porn. But I can sense it at times, it wants to. I'm becoming a whole man again.
I never believed the bad stuff about porn but it's true, you become so fucking desensitized and also realized it's ultimately cuckoldry. Disgusting.

Fap limit every 2nd or 3rd day with natural boners sounds good to me. When I'm in relationships I fuck pretty much every night, can't be bad right?

>(((54+RWI7T)))

Really? Prove to me that it's just a "meme". I've done nofap for 9 days before and I felt better than I have in years. Keep in mind that I also worked out every other day which kept my body active and my mind clear. I don't believe it was a "placebo effect" at all.

Isn't masturbation humiliating, knowing that you could have just impregnated a woman?

I feel like this dilemma comes from the destruction of the nuclear family, where babies were being popped out by the dozens from a husband and wife. What does a man do with strong sex drive but no girlfriend or wife? U

No porn. You wont fap as much.

Problem solve. Move on.

Why are you replying to me? I was calling out the shill, not agreeing with him.

Not sure if I could handle that. I can maybe go three days.

Masturbation should be fucking ILLEGAL! I hate masturbation, everytime you masturbate you destroy the fascist element inside you. Why do you think the JEWS promote it, why do you think the NIGS do it. It's so evil I can't believe it, you think Thor or Loki would do it? No. Masturbation curbs the natural magic forces that is innate in every true Aryan.

it's called flatlining. you'd get over it eventually and emerge as the fabled ubermensch if you had the testicular fortitude (pun intended) to stick it out (pun intended)

Ummm no one faps to porn anyway. And people fapped long before porn was invented so nice bullshit.

if you want the ultimate redpill masturbation will always be detrimental. If you lust you will have an extremely hard time to control yourself. Not masturbating can be done as long as you do not lust, go lift or work hard. It might sound hypocritical but don't use Sup Forums much, it's filled with lustful pictures. Look at woman at their eyes.


Ultimately read scripture, read the book of James. Copulation is meant to happen with a woman, a wife at that.

I think we can all agree that the biggest problem with masturbation is porn, its just a fact 99% of the people that masturbate will be doing it to porn, porn perverts your view on sex especially on children and is also addicting. Once you are addicted normal porn just won't do it for you then you'll start looking at more disgusting shit. I remember the first time I saw a girl giving a guy a blow job when I was a kid, I found it disgusting in my mind but dick said otherwise and was aroused, same with anal sex. I think everyone does it but if your gonna masturbate do it with a sane clear mind and never use porn.

I would say none at all and just work on sorting out your personal problems and get a GF.

Still tho male sexuality is extremely controlling to the point we see sex as a necessity.

I wouldn't even be able to give you a "how often" basis type of answer given I look at it as something dysfunctional and abusive even.

In summary jerk off at least 5 times a day to ward off the evil spirits. Seek a priest if all else fails and shit.

I tried Nofap two years ago and gave up because I couldn't get past day one. But then did it last year and went on those long streaks. You can do it if you want to heal. Fapping and porn just wrecks you with brain fog and then eventually PIED(porn induced erectile dysfunction).

Yeah, you should only masturbate to your high school yearbook.

Read this.

Odin was a cuck

lots of fap is bad and lack of it.

this is nofap lol reddit.com/r/NoFap/comments/3oyq0f/nofap_and_iq/

btw you should know that after 2 or 3 weeks it's actually bad to not masturbate so you shouldnt overdo it unless you can get a gil

Well, I'm in my upper 30's and still have a voracious libido. My GF is a little asian lady, 12 years my junior. Thankfully we have like sex drives.
>Gotta do what you gotta do broseph.

go visit guardyoureyes dotcom

the kikes have been doing nofap way before us, aware that they were of the consequences of porn addiction.

nofap is the dumbest meme ever created, everyone who posts about it acts like their life was changed and they now have infinite happiness and whatever else comes with it just cause they stopped playing with their dick

you're all literally delusional and lying to yourselves

I more hate the fact that so many people actually still believe the 'there is no limit in masturbation, masturbate as often as you can' bullshit. With all the porn flooding around, the way of masturbation is in no longer natural. Not only does it have a lot of negative effects on your brain, it also leads ultimately to how you treat persons.

NoFap is not a meme, it helps. For those who can't do it, either lack a good strategy (no one says you should do straight 90 days no fap at the beginning. Start out with a week, and try to make it longer. Use autosuggestion and other methods, ban porn from your PC, etc.) or they are simply too stupid to do it, which I doubt.

I classify males that cannot control their masturbation as "beta" males. So, get up your ass and fucking stop fapping and try to integrate a healthy life style again. Trust me, it helps. If you don't believe it, then continue taking that drug. But as you know, overdose sooner or later leads to negative psychological effects.

People denying the benefits of nofap and the damages done by porn use are either retarded or shills

Are you kidding me? Jews are the kings of degenerate porn. Why do you think pizzagate is a thing

>Says the one who most likely believes that fapping to porn is 'normal' and 'healthy'. It isn't, really. Especially not, if it's done too often.

You should read some studies what an overdose of masturbation actually does to your brain and your body as well as your psychological behavior.

Exactly. But I'm showing with this website how they are trying to prevent its usage within their community.

youtube.com/watch?v=GiOWjMaZVbw
Listening to pretty grill telling you not to fap is pretty convincing

I tried not to fap. It worked for a while but it didn't last. It made me feel healthier but not happier.

Exactly this. A lot of porn these days is really fucked up, and it's obvious the more you watch that kind of crap, the more you are desensitized to this kind of degenerate porn.

No, I wouldn't consider them as shills. I more believe they are either victims of this porn crap and most likely fap to it daily or they were once NoFappers, but never had enough willpower to do it and thus now criticize the whole project.. most likely they are just beta males.

I got addicted to furry shit when I was younger

I'm by no means a furry and think they're fucking freaks but naked cartoon animals really turn me on

It's hard for me to play sonic the hedgehog because I always think about Amy's pussy.

bang a whore instead

people have been jacking off since the beginning of humanity you retarded faggot, theres a lot more evidence for lack of masturbation leading to health problems than there is pseudo-science about nofap "helping me happy fellow r*dditors"

Yes, this user knows. Just read up on the effects here:

yourbrainonporn.com/men-does-frequent-ejaculation-cause-hangover

Redpill me on the harmful effects of masturbation.

I stole this from leddit:

The more the rat ejaculates, the greater the decease in androgen receptors. It takes about 4 days for the androgen receptors to return to baseline, yet it takes 15 days for the rat to full sexual power. Meaning other neurochemical events are in play. One such study - ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12914589#

Not only does ejaculation reduce brain androgen receptors it results in a greater density of brain estrogen receptors. Ejaculation also increases brain opioids that dampen libido. ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20875461

As for dopamine, ejaculation initiates structural changes in the dopamine-producing nerve cells of the reward circuit - specifically the VTA. The nerve cell bodies in the VTA decreased in size, and stay that way for at least 7 days (measurements were taken at 1, 7, and 30 days). The VTA supplies most of the dopamine for other reward circuit structures. jneurosci.org/content/34/26/8825.long

In addition, ejaculation led to the rats being less responsive to injected morphine, indicating a (temporarily) numbed pleasure response. Keep in mind that dopamine is behind craving and wanting, whereas most of the pleasure of sex arises from opioids released in the reward circuit.

Are you unable to read, faggot? Also, do not forget that in the beginning of humanity there was not a daily overdose of information + porn videos and images like today. That's a huge difference.

Porn is not healthy. It starts out harmless at the beginning, and later you're jacking off to some crazy pedo shit. And do you know why (in most cases)? Because people need the 'kick'. And once they have watched the same porn over and over again, they try to search for harder stuff, which they will obviously find.

Masturbation in a healthy condition is, of cousre, not unnatural, but in the way it is practiced these days is a lot different than it was 200 years ago and it's clearly not healthy.

What you 'call' pseudo-science, are actually verified and researched facts that have been shown in many studies already. Maybe you should search for it.

Pornography is a drug. And most people cannot handle it correctly. (like with most drugs)

is she tight?

I think I have already passed the point of no return so I fear there would be no use in starting a NoFap session now

>It starts out harmless at the beginning, and later you're jacking off to some crazy pedo shit
[citation needed]
oh wait, there won't be one because you're pulling shit out of your ass to justify your argument.

so what if people use pornography to jack off? it's what it's made for, you idiot.

genuinely curious as to how many people advocating for nofap with the justification of porn being evil are christians/catholics and also right-wing conservatives. i'm sure the % is very high.

but go ahead, continue to not ejaculate for months at a time so you become sterile -- the world will be a much better place without your offspring in it, retard.

Yes, that's a good article. Speaking from my own experience, I can clearly say that there is a (to me) positive difference after stopping masturbation, or, to make it more clear, practice masturbation in a healthy manner (masturbation for not like 6 months). Sure, I believe that a lot of other people are exaggerating on NoFap, but then again, I cannot deny that I definitely had some of the positive effects that many other people on NoFap mentioned as well.

Besides that, I have to admit, before, when I was masturbating a lot, I also started viewing women as objects and tools and I never was able to build up a real relationship because I only wanted the sex.

>so what if people use pornography to jack off? it's what it's made for, you idiot.

But it bears the risk that it is overused and leads to an addiction (as it's a psychological drug), which happens a lot and pretty often. If it would not happen, then things like NoFap and other (similar) campaigns and projects would not exist. Pornography addiction is real and it's doing no good, especially to very young people who are still in growth.

Besides that, I am not pulling anything out of my ass, when there are proven studies out there that verify what I said.

the most extreme porn doesnt seem to turn me on that much anymore...im done lads, never again with this filth

She is if I don't bang her for a day. But if I maintain her daily fucking, she fits perfectly.

Porn is not 'evil' and masturbation is not 'wrong', and I am an atheist so it has nothing to do with it being a 'sin' to me.

I am not going to tell you its a magical thing that will heal all your problems but to some people stopping with porn is a big deal, helping them manage even things like depression and anxiety.

Why don't you try it? If you live 80 years, that's 29200 days, so why not dedicate 90 to this, only to see if does anything for you?

To me, maybe its placebo, but nofap made me develop muscle mass faster after a long time without progress, and I feel slightly more motivated to do things I like, although I think fapping for the last decade of my life created problems I will need more than a few weeks to solve.

About the scientific knowledge about porn addiction, watch this:

youtube.com/watch?v=7oFVOJf0TzY&feature=youtu.be

Also, here is something for you, OP:
youtube.com/watch?v=f4VyIoeJsDY

Yep, was going to recommend that video as well.
Also, there are a lot of studies listed there as well:

- Over 60 studies linking porn use to sexual problems, and lower sexual & relationship satisfaction: yourbrainonporn.com/studies-reported-relationships-between-porn-use-or-porn-addictionsex-addiction-and-sexual

- Over 40 neurological studies supporting the porn addiction model:

- Multiple Studies Find Escalation (and Habituation) in Porn Users: yourbrainonporn.com/studies-find-escalation-porn-users

- More extensive list of studies on porn users and sex addicts:
yourbrainonporn.com/sex-addiction

- More extensive list of studies on adolescents and porn use:
yourbrainonporn.com/adolescents-pornography

Woops, forgot that one:
- Over 40 neurological studies supporting the porn addiction model: yourbrainonporn.com/brain-scan-studies-porn-users

I don't know, OP, but all virtual chastity belt-wearing faggots should be looking for their "key holder" in the real world, instead of posting on a laotian stop-motion forum all day.

If you play football never fap on game day. Coach says wait until after the game to fap. Coach is always right.

Both Muhammad Ali and Manny Pacquiao avoided ejaculation long before a fight

OP here, thanks user, will check out the vid

>although I think fapping for the last decade of my life created problems I will need more than a few weeks to solve.

user, I...might be in the same boat. I'll give it a shot.

You are a faggot and I can't believe anyone took the time to read your post.

>2 weeks in
>feel like I have zero sex drive
>5 weeks in
>starting to feel like the embodiment of rage

Is this going the way it should be? I mean I'm feeling really fucking mad for no reason what so ever. I have to say it feels pretty good at times.

nofap is very good if you can control yourself
not punish or figth with yourself, but control=become unified

when you're ONE you do not need girls, they need you

...

I'm on day 74, feels great.

Better skin, more confidence. I'm not some kind of demigod but it's given me the power to start making other positive changes in my life as well.

Give it a shot. You notice the first big boost one week in, then three weeks in, then after 6 weeks you gain so much momentum that you become unstoppable.

Nofap is the ultimate redpill for a young adult:

It works similar to keto in that it kicks your body into a state of survival only it's on a hormonal and chemical level.

Long story short it increases testosterone and decreses estrogen also clearing up any hormones that are causing you brain fog, laziness, depression, pretty much anything detrimental to a man.

This May be just broscience but I myself notice it and almost everyone who tries does too, there's a pheromone effect around women that makes them drawn to you and you drawn to them, A big factor of this is the fact that with more testosterone you feel very confident and are always smiling, which girls love. As far as interactions with men, betas fear you, alphas respect you.

It is often used as a recovery for porn addiction to break up the desensitization of life's simple pleasures, which is how I found it by the way.

Did anyone else start watching porn at a very young age? I started when I was 11, and I know for a fact that it fucked up my development greatly. Sometimes I wish I was a born in a different time when porn wasn't so goddamn immersive and easily available. It's incredibly fucked up when you think about it how easily boys' perception of sex can be destroyed nowadays as long as they have clueless parents, and how easily their confidence around women can be taken away. I was never confident around girls in high school because I was always venting all of my sexual frustration with porn. I didn't wanna do anything else. Jesus Christ, I hate porn. You guys can relate, right? I'm never touching the shit again.

Amen to this same boat, started watching internet porn at 11 and recently found Nofap and it has saved me.

That's bullshit, it's like a heroin addiction and will kill you if you don't fix yourself asap.

It's called getting your balls back

is 90 days the magic number?

i think i'm at around day 30, and goddamn this shit is difficult, and i'm only a third of the way there

Do not start hardcore nofap looking for 90 day streaks or something, if you fap many times a day, start fapping once, if you fap once per day, try fapping once a week, and so on... once you build that willpower, it becomes a lot easier to get big 90 days, 150+ day streaks...

No, it depends on the person, but most people get good results before reaching 90 days

90 days is standard IF your addiction is not severe. If it is severe, it isn't uncommon for guys to report needing 150+ days or even more to return their body physiology back to a pre-addiction state.

Basically the Delta FOSB has to detach from your system in order for you to start gaining progress.

the reason i ask is because even at 1 month i don't feel any tangible benefits, and that jew site that frog posted cited something about 90 days for reseting neural shit, so i was wondering if there was more to that number or not

FAP=LITERALLY KEK

FAP=LITERALLY CU.CK

mods cant stop me

Question. If I do nofap is sex still fine? Just no porn?

>If it is severe, it isn't uncommon for guys to report needing 150+ days

well shit

>Basically the Delta FOSB has to detach from your system

english please? or at least provide some links that can dumb that down to layman speak

I feel sorry for all you young guys. I am an old Gen X'er (42), and in my day the porn was just magazines and VHS mostly.

But even then I knew that porn was powerfully addictive and wouldn't keep those magazines long, eventually throwing them out.

Now with mobile devices, ipads, porn is so easy to access. But this stuff is pure poison for any man. There's a reason the Jews want you to be a porn consumer. It literally destroys you physically and mentally and makes you weak and completely ineffective.

>english please? or at least provide some links that can dumb that down to layman speak

yourbrainonporn.com/porn-pseudoscience-and-δfosb

For those who say this stuff is not Science.

IT IS FUCKING SCIENCE.

Read up on DeltaFosB, A sustained molecular switch for addiction:


yourbrainonporn.com/deltafosb-sustained-molecular-switch-addiction-2001

a lot of "alphas" would tell you to literally just not masturbate at all until that urge becomes so great you have no choice but to situate your self in an environment and circumstance where you get all the pussy your biological self desires. Masturbating at all is rewarding yourself for not accomplishing the one thing you're actually built for as a man which is spreading your seed and creating civilizations (aka fucking bitches and increasing your sexual market value). And you know what happens when you reward failure... all that follows that path is nightmarish pain

Honestly I'm more addicted to the internet in general than I ever was to porn. That said I still think porn is filth.

this is true, but so dumb because literally there is no rational connection between the act and social interaction within society, and if this is true, then it's also true that it's questionable that why does society sometimes promote it

I know that feel my man.Fuck I'm ashamed and I'll use a meme flag.Started out with normal porn, got in to lesbians, solo girls, then "normal"wasn't enough, got in to the hentai shit.Curiosity and boredom got me in the furry garbage, i HATE furries and still I come back to that shit.The shame you feel after you see what you just jacked off to .... You can't even look yourself in the mirror.Few moths back curiosity again got the better of me and i came here to 4 chins, literally the first thread i read was a redpill image dump then i saw this (pic in post related ) and it changed my fucking life, Almost a week into nofap , noporn.I'm fucking quiting porn for life

>It starts out harmless at the beginning, and later you're jacking off to some crazy pedo shit
I've been jacking it to porn for a long time and Traps, lolis, and futa still disgust me. It you fap to those things it's because you have a deep set issue in your brain caused by childhood bullshit.

Anyway I hope I helped my Sup Forums brethren and red-pilled them to never want to use porn again.

I am on the Nofap forums, screenname is runtilmylegsdropoff

thanks

>I feel sorry for all you young guys.
seriously it's fucked, my story is similar to
due to growing up when the internet was getting to its prime, and i can only imagine how fucked it is messing with brain wiring so early on

>your brain is made out of chemicals
>fucking with your dicks fucks with your brain chemicals
>but it doesn't effect the brain at all you guys!!!!!
how

You guys can recover, watch this guy named Gabe Deem (not sure if thats the right last name)
on youtube.

He was a heavy internet porn addict and recovered. He's probably like in the Nofap hall of fame. lol

Thanks to Gary Wilson and all the people at Nofap. They literally save lives.

no girls are willing to indulge in my weird fetish and I have found that it is a vital aspect of my sex life so masturbation is all I have left really

and before you ask I had the fetish long before I ever watched porn or even thought about sex

Yes.The idea is to not pleasure yourself, and sex isn't that obviously.

B A L A N C E

nofap gives pros and cons

fap gives pros and cons

might be different for different people

>How often should a healthy man masturbate
Never. He should only have sex with his wife.

Basics of rebooting, by Gabe Deem:

yourbrainonporn.com/content/basics-rebooting

what kind of new retardation is this
>but so dumb because literally there is no rational connection between the act and social interaction within society
>masturbating changes the chemical make up of your brain
the chemical make up of your brain has an effect on how you think, smell, talk, act, feel let alone interact with people
>there is no rational connection
>no rational connection
>connection

Whenever I abstain from masturbating for extended periods of time I get jungle fever and start wanting to impregnate black chicks, It's worrying