US WANTING TO REPLACE M4 WITH A 7.62MM RIFLE

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WHAT IS THIS SHIT, I'M NOT A GODLESS COMMIE

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7.62 NATO not 7.62 Commie.

you don't know about the 7;62 Nato, u uneducated pleb

like .308
you're fucking retarded and don't know about guns.

M14 or nothing.

Isnt that taking a step back as far as infantry purpose firearms development?

>Military advancements are bad
According to you we should still be using the M14
You are a faggot

7.62 nato is still used you disgusting faggot.

Good idea - 7.62 round should tear through most commie bloc tier body armor with ease...

Boy am I glad I don't have to hump around with a combat load of 7.62 on me

>Hating freedumbs rifle as an american
seriously bro

Retard

Are you stupid? An AR-15 type rifle with a more powerful cartridge would be ten times better.

Jesus, just buy a bunch of .300 Blackout AR platforms.

That's why the round was invented.

But nope. They're going to waste a billion dollars coming up with the F-35 of battle rifles.

Moron, the AR-10 already exists.

kek how can rooskie bois even compete?

.300 blackout at any actual distance beyond 100 yards is fucking useless. Retard.

like an AR-10 or SCAR 17?

ar-10?

heavy and fud tier

lol no
The current generation m4 is fine for the general population. It's lightweight, which is a huge plus for most people.
It's not even close to the best rifle though. Shot 40/40 on a popup range with an m4. I know that thing well.

ar-15 built for.308 or 7.62 nato.

They look the same, who the fuck cares?

>thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/08/05/breaking-7-62mm-rifle-replace-m4-carbine-interim-combat-service-rifle-solicitation-released-us-army/
not op but did you even read it?

give hk g3 plox

Soldier here.
5.56 is nice for the light infantry because you can carry a bunch of ammo and it won't weight you down while on foot patrol.

unironically this

AR-15 is essentially a scaled down AR-10

>power
bullets are meant to move into your house not shake your hand and jump out the window!

>RUSSIA PUTS PRESIDENT IN OFFICE
>RUSSIA PUTS BULLETS IN GUN
>RUSSIA PUTS GUN IN MILITARY
HOW WILL AMERICA EVER RECOVER?

it's fucking shameful we still use DI crap in the year of our lord 2017

7.62 would have less magazine capacity and more recoil which is worse for modern suppressive fire tactics

I've no idea how that ugly piece of junk can look so fucking good.

This, my god this.
this will teach you fucks not to waist ammo.

why not just replace with laser guns??!!!!!
wow US military so archaic!!!!!!

best rifle in the world, accept no substitutes

You're a fucking retard 7.62x51 not 7.62x39
Kill yourself.
Ar10 308
308 is way better then fucking 5.56x45

Whats your MOS guy? 0302 come 2018 summer

We won't.

>2017
>still thinking you're smarter than Eugene Stoner was

Great rifle but heavy af. Upgrade that mag to 30 and we're good to go!

I get the whole stopping power aspect but from what i've gathered, about 250k rounds are expended per kill, thus a smaller cartridge one can carry more of, and place down range faster, was deemed more practical.

Also

This isn't /k/.

Who needs armor piercing when most enemy combatants don't have body armor. Also, it's not as if the 7.62 can't pierce armor. I suspect there are also some logistical benefits to having virtually all crew-serve weapons (minus pistols) be one caliber--carbines, long rifles, machine guns, all 7.62.

It's been so long. What were the arguments for the 5.56 again?

Time to become a man.
7.62 nato all the way baby

The rounds are smaller but they have more power behind them and are higher velocity. Probably will penetrate armor better.

Or I could just be wrong and our massive military is actually making a retarded decision (probably for Israel).

Law Enforcement is started to head back towards 7.62x51mm/.308 Winchester or towards 6.5mm/6.8mm. Too many civilian body armor on the market. We just finished getting our order of Mk. 17/Mk. 17CQ, and will exclusively be using M61 AP.

t.manlet leaf

With my FN FAL I will not be "suppressing anything ... it will blow limbs clean off, if you get hit by one of these you are very likely to die
former army here, trained on FN FAL, never liked the switch
yes the FAL is heavier, yes it has less capacity, but it fucking kills shit dead, very few people get "wounded" by one of these

for the love of god yes let this happen the market will be flooded with cheap fucking ammo and surplus M4s

ground troops can waste bullets until they call in air support.

don't talk to me kekistan fag

>being tall is good in war
maybe if you want to be a lamp post

weak and mallninja

They're buying 50,000 units. Not replacing all of them

We are in agreement.

>What were the arguments for the 5.56 again?
mo bullets mo problems
>Also, it's not as if the 7.62 can't pierce armor.
5.56 pierces armor too
>The rounds are smaller but they have more power behind them and are higher velocity.
7.62 is bigger and heavier (more kinetic energy) than 5.56, and typically has a lower muzzle velocity

>The M14 wins again

I almost get a tear of nostalgia when I see the FALs on the news. Too bad it's always some shithole in Central Africa.

Just give everyone Mosin Nagants and stop being faggots

They've been talking about this for a decade at least, but they'll never stray from ol' M4. They waste millions of dollars, test a bunch out, then go back to the M4.

Fun Fact: the M16 and M4 are the longest service life of any rifle fielded by the military in our history.

>rifleman
>suppressing fire
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>What were the arguments for the 5.56 again?
Intermediate cartridges were developed and adopted as a response to actual combat studies and data.
7.62NATO was adopted because 'muh 30 cal stoppin powah!'

Please be MK14.

It would be either the LMT or HK716

I'm not too savvy on this shit so thanks for the info.

>only one poster with gun girls in this entire thread

Also, this was coming even with the LSAT Program.

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>You will never own a C1A1
Make Canada Great Again

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The shit storm online would be amazing

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Wrong image.

manlet as in weaksauce as in you.

>mfw best girl wins again
THIS IS MY RIFLE
THERE ARE MANY LIKE IT BUT THIS ONE IS MINE

I'd manage her recoil

>He doesn't realize that .300 blackout comes in regular supersonic loadings with an effective range of 500 meters or more

Sounds about right, replacing an upjumped varmint round with Real Fuckin NATO.

7.62 x 51 is still US
7.62 x 54 or 7.62 x 39 are ruskie

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Little bitch ass boot

Nah, the government will just destroy them like they did with that giant batch from the 80s

why is the lower so bulky and hideous?

Idiot

still rubbish for suppressive fire which is what you'll be doing 90% of the time

that's why we shifted to an intermediate cartridge to begin with

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This is what will actually replace the 5.56, well at least the caliber

Since more muslim freaks are wearing body armor, need more stopping power.

Nice.

It is using CTA(Telescoping) Ammunition.

1st round hit maybe, after that OVER OVER OVER OVER

It's a prototype.

They don't want civs owning m4s.

Do riflemen not use suppressing fire?
Genuine question, everything I know about modern military tactics is from Full Spectrum Warrior on the original XBox.

>7.62
>commie
(you)

Fake news
It's gonna be a 6.5 by Hornady. Whether that is the Grendel or Creedmor Idk

>>You will never own a C1A1
>Make Canada Great Again

Most excellent. First got to wield one in army cadets and later in the reserves. Shows my age though. First did target practice/drill with .303 Lee-Enfields and later the FN FALs. Good times! Even got to play around with old 9mm Sterling SMGs. Thanks for the memories!

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