I'm from a secular country, with secular education, religion is not present on any level. For some reason however, I always felt there's something else. I can't explain it.
Honestly, I'm not sure what to do. Should I give Jesus a chance? I'm such a religious ignorant fag that I don't know how to do that.
Well Sup Forums, what should I do? I have zero affinity for the church.
Learn the basic prayers
Go to Sunday Mass
Confession is nice
also what country?
As someone who grew up fundamentalist evangelical, became agnostic/apathetic and tried to read about all kinds of different philosophies and religions, from gnosticism to Satanism to existentialism to Buddhism to Judaism to objectivism to national socialism to egoism to...(etc, etc, etc) traditional Catholicism is the most /comfy/ redpill.
In my limited understanding, natural reason points us towards God, but only asymptotically. In your heart, you must admit that you are finite, and that you do not know everything. Or at least, that was what I had to do, and to humble myself. I started going to a mass near my house, and just sat and watched the people, asking for clarification and help when I needed it, and people were always happy to tell me what was going on. While I really like Jordan Peterson, and he is accurate in some respects about the psychological significance of certain Christian teachings, as well as his very interesting and learned understanding about the evolutionary development of the human body (including the mind), he is still trying to get people to fix themselves, rather than humble ourselves and admit that we cannot save our own soul.
I do not have a full understanding of the Catholic tradition, but everything that Sup Forums is on point about is said more profoundly by the Catholic Church. Degeneracy, kikes, family, tradition, hierarchy, communism, monarchy, all of it was articulated by the Church, and within the framework of the Church. I came to realize that I wanted everything that the Church was offering, without humbling myself, and it has been a gradual process of accepting that I am not the end-all-be-all, and trusting Jesus when he said that he would send the Holy Spirit to guide his followers into all truth.
God bless you, user.
Can you be a Christian without going to Mass and Church? That will be quite a shock for me man. I only went to a Church once or twice and it was to see the architecture.
Is just prayinga way of letting God in? I'm honestly lost man. I feel empty af.
Christianity is fake.
Also it holds back the white nationalist movement. Jesus was a pussy hippie bitch. It's a semitic religion that ruined Europe. Europe's true religion is paganism idgaf if people cry about it being degenerate. It's better than worshipping this faggot
He's the only pill, user.
Are you ready for the bread pill?
Someone needs the red supository
>implying you arent literally just trying to start another flame war
I recommend reading the Bible, maybe start in John or Matthew of the New Testament. I also recommend reading the King James Version of the Bible, there is a lot of controversy with the newer bible translations. Pic related
Romans 3:23 KJV
>23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
The Gospel is all over the Bible, here is just one explanation.
1 Corinthians 15:1-8 KJV
>1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
>2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
>3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
>4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
>5 And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve:
>6 After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep.
>7 After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles.
>8 And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time.
Jesus is the ultimate redpill
John 14:6 KJV
>6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
I'm going to give it a try. Thanks for that reply.
I went to Science college, I wasn't even an atheist, there is no mention to religion here. But the more I learnt about Science the more I felt there is something higher. I think that life in the city, always in touch with a man made world drives us out of any though on a supreme God. Whenever I go out to the countryside that feeling embraces me in a strong way.
I honestly feel like a retard and the best way to describe it is like an inner war. Between what? I don't know.
>Can you be a Christian without going to Mass and Church
Yes
Hippie Jesus describes a lot of things I used to believe but I've been moving steadily towards The Lord Jesus Christ it would seem.
they literally attacked him and he started healing the romans ear mid fight. You cant tell me thats not pussy as fuck. Thats supposed to be the example of what all europeans should strive to me. Miss me with that faggot shit this is why the west is in decline
If Christian values are objectively good then why not adapt them out of utilitarian interest and toss the supernatural mumbo jumbo parts into the bin where they belongs?
Yes you can. But you should try it at least once a week.
Mass calms my mind and soul. I should do it more often, but I feel I am not worthy yet.
If you spend many hours reading the Bible and spend numerous hours translating certain words of Christ to the original language, you will find out that Jesus was the most redpilled, alpha, being in existence.
The most redpilled state possible, would be a Christian Theocracy, with Ethnonationalism and Totalitarianism. I know I'm probably going to get shit on by other people, but it's the truth.
Jesus loves all of you.
do not fall for this sandnigger cult user
Thanks anons. I'll get a KJV Bible and start reading.
I'll try Mass, it's an experience I never had. But it makes me nervous.
Oral tradition passed on for multiple centuries before capability of written came in to place. People who wrote it aren't the most trust worthy. Maybe all religion is based on an et experience which brought our species to earth. We were dumped here with nothing (the 4th time or experiment) and it took awhile to come up with a written language to recount. During the time things were passed verbally which construed the truth.
>I can't explain it.
I can. Believing in God is a primal instinct humans have, like mating. Its literally your brain tricking you into it.
But its not helpless, you can take the redpill and become a rational man by puting your instincts behind. Of course, you can always take the bluepill instead and become a religious normie like everyone else, it's your choice.
The problem is that men aren't as perfect and loving as Jesus and a totalitarian government in His name would fall to corruption.
Yes give Jesus a chance, He helped save me from myself he can open your eyes to white alot of things.
You clearly have not read the bible
biblegateway.com
Yes, a good thorough version of scripture (KJV), and wounds to heal is all you need.
I watched some videos about Hovind.
I've been rational all my life. If this is where it took me then I will gladly try Jesus. And I don't see, at this point, how holding Christian faith is in any way conflictive with reason.
Anons, I've been listening to Elvis' Gospel songs lately. And those songs feel in a completely different way than years ago.
Maybe I'm getting emotional due to age I don't know.
OP i suggest you watch this debate since it can be trully life changing, you will see how unsustainable atheism can be.
youtu.be
Totally go to Christ. He's the only one who can really forgive you. All you have to do is accept Him. It's that easy.
>> accordingtothescriptures.org/prophecy/353prophecies
Link related
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I know I sound like complete moron, but do you feel different after you accept Him?
I haven't watched that one. Thanks
idk why you linked this to me. So what? He threatened like 5 people at one point in the Bible. Doesnt make him less of a pussy
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If you are interested in traditional Catholicism, I would encourage a Douay-Rheims Bible. Without going into a lot of history and theology and philosophy, Protestants removed seven books from the Old Testament which support traditional Catholic teachings.
Jesus is: "If you kill them, they win". You think this is red pill?
I guess it can't be helped then. I won't try to reason you out of your faith, that's something you must do alone.
I know Jesus is uncool in these days of irony, sarcasm, being hip and all that but I think Christanity is better than anything else out there. We need something more than Trump, Pepe, and white ethnocentrism
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I have no faith. I am bluepilled according to you. All my life has been based on philosophy and science.
even if that shit is true it doesnt matter. Christianity has keked itself beyond repair. No one knows or talks about any of that shit thats in that thread.
Ow, the edge
The pope is a cuck
wtf are you talking about. Are you in the right thread nigger? That meme has nothing to do with what were talking about. I adovacated for paganism the true religion of europe. Im not an edgy science fedora atheist . Stop being retarded
What are your thoughts on East Orthodoxy?
If you like dead people and rapefugees
Sorry, my mistake
Yes.
We turned away and tried to find other things but the truth was always there.
It's like when your parents tell you something when you're younger and you don't believe them.
The story of Christianity reads like the story of James the Just's cult growing too large. There were plenty of false prophets/messiahs at that place at their time, Jesus just happened to have good spokesmen.
The Hebrew religion Christianity is based on isn't much better, either. It too is just too obvious in its human/tribal origins and influences, especially in the scripture.
Believe in what you want man. Christianity is good until you start being a pretentious fag about it (like most of pol seems to be)
Hope the jewish cock is good faggot. I cant wait until your sister gets culturally enriched. Continue being a kekold to a sand cult
Epic straw man
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You have no clue who Jesus is. You are only taking the version of Jesus that's been spoon fed to you by Hollywood. You would do well to actually read the bible and find out for yourself, unless you like illuminati satanic child sacrificing power hungry people hating sociopaths tell bent on ruling the world and killing you and your loved ones in the process telling you what to think, then by all means just keep thinking you know what you're talking about.
Yes, the Bible provides the best explanation the condition of our existence, the best ways to cope with it, and the way to eternal life (after death). A lot of people feel empty even if they have everything material that they want they don't have a relationship with God. I suggest you start reading the Bible. You can read it for free on Biblegateway.com.
You can't adapt them because the core of it is Jesus Christ. If you remove Jesus from the equation it will not last and people will never really take to it.
My mother told me to believe as a child but instead I indulged myself in those science books with planets and stars and NASA and shit..very early on the grasp of there is no God was a hold of me, but I finally saw the truth and the light of the Gospels of our Lord Savior the Christ Jesus, it takes time or it comes to you early but when Christ calls you, you answer
Im just getting started aswell, can confirm it feels good to live by a set of moral principle, I've heard that the King James Bible is the best but im reading Gideons Holy Bible cause its the only one I have
Except that, you are larping. No one seriously believes in those gods. May as well just call yourself an atheist.
Blind faith in some shit that makes you feel good is just another degenerate drug. If you're gonna become a religionfag then at least think rationally for yourself.
I was raised a protestant. Should I switch to catholicism or is it not worth it since my parents are protestant?
You need to be careful with other versions, mainly any written since 1900. They ha e serious changes that completely flip doctrine, deny the divinity of Christ and teach works based salvation.
Salvation is by faith and faith alone.
yes ultimate red pill indeed
get saved by praying to jesus one time and calling on him for salvation
and then read the king james new testament starting with the gospels
ez pz
rapture is on september 23 so ur very late to the game
Good read. Such enlightenment.
Do it, but make sure you will be a traditional catholic, and not those charismatic ones.
If this was just about the feels I would just take some pills and keep fucking chicks until I dropped dead. Then I can lie to myself about the relativity of everything and the lack of meaning, and keep buying the spiritual bullshit science is trying us to swallow.
A bunch of fags that can't cure a flu but are certain on how and when the universe was created. gtfo
catholics dont go to heaven they get left behind on the rapture because they trusted their works and jesus never knew them
sure you can be a moral person but it doesnt matter in gods perspective youre just boasting by thinking ur just gonna be a good person and thats all you need
Read the Book of Luke and the Book of Matthew, even a modern day version if you have to.
Jesus taught the Jews to not spread false gossip (think of the modern day MSM) and he taught them to not practice usury, which was a system of loaning out money on interest (modern day international Jew banks basically). That's why they hate Christ and that's why they hate Christianity.
Yes, Jesus is the ultimate redpill. Have faith on him. Sup Forums is a Christian board for a reason.
yes
1 John 2:22-23
Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
>t. cuckolick
I don't go to church, myself, user. But I should.
OP, I hope and pray you find these useful.
youtube.com
Good channels, hopefully they help people.
youtube.com
A true Gospel presentation. Hopefully those who haven't heard watch, and those who have can share this
if you wanna take the jesus redpill, just do what he said: love him and love your neighbor. basically that means just pray and be a good person. if you do that, you will never fear death since you'll be up in heaven with your loved ones.
John iii. 3,4,5,6,7,8.
Jesus said unto Nicodemus, Verily, verily I say unto thee, Except a Man be born again, he cannot see the Kingdom of God.
Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a Man be born when he is old? Can he enter the second Time into his Mother's Womb and be born?
Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a Man be born of Water, and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the Kingdom of God.
That which is born of the Flesh is Flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is Spirit.
Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
The Wind bloweth where it listeth and thou hearest the Sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: So is every one that is born of the Spirit.
Matt. xvi. 26.
What is a Man profited if he should gain the whole World, and lose his own Soul? or What shall a Man give in exchange for his Soul?
John 6
35 And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.
36 But I said unto you, That ye also have seen me, and believe not.
37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.
39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day
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John 3
14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:
15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
nope you just have to believe and get born again
keeping his commandments wont get u saved
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true reality is god
Enlighten us then.
Based on your tone, you appear to be a shill
No shit nigga the verse i posted is faith alone salvation
Don't go to mass and leave it at that. Talk to people. Find a good conservative priest (I've had good experience with Opus Dei, that's what got me converted).
It's all real.
He needed to die and knew he was going to. Read your Bible user.
Also he is probably torturing most if them right now in Hell.
The West was at its high point when most people were Christians. The West is failing now as most people are becoming atheist and atheism is on the rise.
And God created all reality
Jesus isn't even a real name.
Dude's name is Josh.
Thats the redpill.
Why did he have to die?
If the Jews didn't kill him, would his mission had been deemed a failure?
Shills don't want you to be Christian.
Christ is a pretty aggressive fellow in The Bible. Debating people and chewing them out, getting mad at his disciples if needed be, and wrecking the money changers out of the temple.
If you read The Bible, and you read in between the lines, you'll note that Christ didn't want to die on the cross. He prayed to God and asked for another way, but if there was no other way, Christ would do what needed to be done. That was his mission. To take all the sin of the world into him and die with it so that we may be justified upon death to enter the Kingdom of Heaven.
I dont understand what id be a shill for. I'm just a Christian who used to think the same until I read it for myself. And believe me I wish I could just explain how the popular perception of Jesus is wrong in a few sentences but just like any complex topic it takes time and your own research.
I will say that Jesus constantly ripped on people for being hypocrits and liars. He tore up the temple flipping tables because of the money changers. When he says turn the other cheek back when he was alive if a Roman soldier struck you presenting your other cheek in front of people was seen as an insult and am embarrassment for the romans. He was saying not to fight the powers that be head on but to fight smart. Also how arrogant do you need to be to call God a pussy? You should try to humble yourself a bit and realize your just another guy amongst billions and your not hot shit and I'm not trying to be a dick.
He knew he was going to die ahead of time
John 3:14
And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up
Also the serpent Moses lifted up was for sick people to get healed. Like sinners getting salvation through Christ.
You're saved by believing on Jesus' death and resurrection.
I dont understand what id be a shill for. I'm just a Christian who used to think the same until I read it for myself. And believe me I wish I could just explain how the popular perception of Jesus is wrong in a few sentences but just like any complex topic it takes time and your own research.
I will say that Jesus constantly ripped on people for being hypocrits and liars. He tore up the temple flipping tables because of the money changers. When he says turn the other cheek back when he was alive if a Roman soldier struck you presenting your other cheek in front of people was seen as an insult and am embarrassment for the romans. He was saying not to fight the powers that be head on but to fight smart. Also how arrogant do you need to be to call God a pussy? You should try to humble yourself a bit and realize your just another guy amongst billions and your not hot shit and I'm not trying to be a dick.
read 'the life of Christ' by Fulton Sheen and make up your mind
jesus does support being a "pussy" thats what meek means
Meek Definitions:
quiet, gentle, and easily imposed on; submissive.
enduring injury with patience and without resentment: not violent or strong
turn the other cheek means dont fight back exactly what he said but mighty men of violence dont like that
pretty much how I feel about this thread rn
You can't take one word and understand Jesus and what he was telling us. You can't take one verse and understand the whole gospel.
This goes back to why you need to read it for yourself. Are you worried it might change your mind?
You should tell him to read the Bible to fund out. This movie is pretty accuate on what happened acording to the KJV
m.youtube.com
Apparently you have not fallen deep enough down the rabbit hole to realize the false prophet of atheism is at odds with logic and rationality; a weapon designed by Marxists and Post-modernists to push humanity into the brink of internal chaos, narcissism, and hedonism. Thus making them dependent on the state and the collective, rather than the enlightenment within provided through constraint and proper moral meditations.
Sure there are many people that accept faith blindly and put no reason behind their belief, but that is due to a limit of intellect. You however have had enough intellect to make a decisive rejection of faith; live a bit longer, think a little bit harder, tread a bit further down that rabbit hole.
>And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.
A WEAPON TO SURPASS THE REDPILL
THE BREADPILL
I think Christ would have gone to war with Islam. I mean, in Revelations, He goes to war with Satan's army (the beast of Revelations). Me personally, and many other Christian's alike, believe the beast to be Islam.
(A beast in the Bible is a common way of figuring an ideology).
im pro jesus i just think hes meek and gentle and non violent and its a good thing
Proverbs 16:32
32 He that is slow to anger is better than the mighty; and he that ruleth his spirit than he that taketh a city.
Titus 3:2
To speak evil of no man, to be no brawlers, but gentle, shewing all meekness unto all men.
Matthew 5:43-44
Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
Romans 12:19
Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head.Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.
There is nothing to indicate actual physical violence against the money changers in the temple. Just that he made a scourge.
John 2:15
And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables;
the bible says jesus didnt ever do anything violent one single time
Isaiah 53:9
And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.
god judging the world has nothing to do with how he commanded believers to live
its called judgement for a reason
he wants christians to be gentle, meek, loving, forgiving, etc
not violent and fighting other people when he said turn the other cheek unless you want to flip jesus words around to mean something else
Says the guy telling someone else they don't know jesus. Humble and humility is something we all need