F-FASCISM WORKS

F-FASCISM WORKS

JUST MY SPECIFIC TYPE OF FASCISM HASN'T BEEN TRIED B-BEFORE

It works so 21 million Jews were killed in 4 years

>/leftypol/ shows up on queue

Haha John were did you find this one ?

>tfw we didn't commit to operation unthinkable
Harris should have done it again all over the commies fucking heads

It works when it wins. Germany was a risky testing ground.

Just because you stomp on a flower doesn't mean it wasn't beautiful.

Look at what happened to Chile and South Korea they went from shit poor to doing alright. It is a great tool to jump start a country.

Communism, as postulated by Marx, has never been tried.

Fascism, as postulated by Evola, has never been tried.

What now, redditor?

Who cares about fascism. Its national socialism that created Germany's economic miracle. Free from jewish influence and free from mass starvation lmao

Portugal
Spain
Chile
South Korea
Sweden (folkhemmet)

SHUT UP COMMIE WE WILL KILL YOU AND ALL FAGGOTS FRIENDS 14/88 HEIL HITLER

All of those are social democracies

But it did work.

You seem to have made this thread in reference to the same statement made of communism, it's never been tried before.

In communist countries economies collapsed, starvation was rampant and national people suffered and died in their millions often under brutal despots, without a war.

None of those things happened in Nazi Germany, they were invaded and lost a war, to the combined power of America, England and Russia no less, the fact they lost a war doesn't mean Fascism itself wasn't working.

They'd have been raped, the Reich at its peak was 10x as menacing as the allies minus the USSR and they still got crushed by them. Russkies would have gotten to Dunkirk in half the time it took Hitler.

US doesn't fight any wars where it can actually get fucked up.

lol that would have ended horribly for the british and americans

They are now and so are stagnating or dying one way or another. Before they were great countries and economic miracles.

Objectively, fascism is only a failure if you lose the war. I guess that's what keeps happening but I'm just saying, starving citizens or whatever doesn't count.

All had a fairly successful fascist period and transitioned due to changing political climate on the world stage and proved that fascism works.

leftypol is better than this. this is work of reddit.

checked have some red pilled anime

Soviets could not put up a fight without someone backing them. Any conflict that dragged out for long would have seen the soviets capitulating to the West.
The Allies would have nuked Moscow.

moving away from a fascist type government proves that fascism works?

Possibly not. If the Allies had been able to weather the worst until the Soviets ran out of spare parts for their American trucks.

But those countries aren't fascist anymore so it obviously failed...

The United States was the sole nuclear power on the planet and the Soviet Union would have had no actual way to respond without committing itself to a costly land invasion of the United States. We could have turned everything west of the Urals into a moonscape if we had really wanted too.

>German monarchists were killed because they opposed Hitler's socialist reforms and wanted to reinstall the king
One doesn't need to be a lefty to be against you crypto commies. Hitler not only betrayed the people, but also Germany's very culture and history.

Show me an example of communism working...

Oh wait.

woah. one coutnry lost a war against almost the entire world. imagine my cock

And you honestly should have.

Fuck communism.

You live in a fascist socialst country you dumbass.

No, the United Kingdom is a democratic nation you retard.

the allies were not capabable of losing the amount of men that the russians could it would have been a blood bath and the british and americans would suffer causality's they had never known before
>he believe the lend lease meme

the only materials the russians needed was food really, allied tanks and weapons could not even compare to russian tanks and weapons, and by the wars end russias industry were in full production of everything else they needed

Its managed democracy, a police state and socialist.

Fascism lives on. In you.

Land lease made it easier for them but they'd have still prevailed. Just like the 2nd front, they'd have still won without it. And by the end of the war all of their production was running full steam.

While it's 100% true that the rest of the allies would be far too chickenshit to fight the Soviets without nukes, Soviets still wouldn't give a shit about Moscow being nuked. They nuked Moscow themselves for Napoleon and wouldn't have capitulated if Hitler took it since they moved most production further East by then. They were also in the process of getting nukes themselves and would have retaliated before the allies would have had a chance to end it.

We should have, our greatest mistake was allowing the Soviet Union to solidify its power after the war.

>Implying Nazism doesn't work
>Shows Berlin after allied bombings
Really? Btfo even historians agree that Nazi Germany had the most civilized warfare in history, they managed to conquer territories with minimal infrastructure damage.

(pic related)

>Translation,"AMERIKAN MILITARY BAD CUS I A REAL COMUNIST! HOW Can AMERICEN MILTARY BE GOOD IF I AM COMUNIST?!"

Nukes would have evened things out and they certainly would have cared if their cities were nuked but nukes were delivered by plane back then. The Russians conventional forces far outnumbered allied conventional forces.

Ruskies probably feared concentrating their forces for an attack and the Americans probably needed that or they couldnt attack. Result was statemate.

But it's communism that destroyed this beautiful city. Look at the tanks.

The Germans did that and more and they didn't give a shit.

Soviets would have quickly cleared mainland Europe of Brits and US forces. Even if they got nuked a dozen times it would still pale in comparison to what the Germans did, and they had their own nukes on the way.

Why do you retards think that I'm advocating Communism?

Fascism and Communism are both equally as bad.

what purpose would that of had besides wasting more lives?

it would have been hilarious to see T34s and IS2 and IS3s destroying allied tanks but thank god they didnt as my grandfather would have died for sure

Fascism works as long as you're not defeated by countries with superior military capabilities.

You only had 2 nukes in 1945. In one year you could have produced only 2 or 3 nukes
Nuking Moscow wouldn't help you at all. Stalin would have just used chemicals to kill every allied troop in euope ans the UK. Nuking Russia would have just provoked them further.

Compared to Soviet military it was nothing. There's a reason they had to sit out the western front when Hitler was even remotely a threat and needed Soviets to take care of actual Jap forces in mainland China after dicking around random islands for 4 years. There's a reason the US let allies do the fighting in all its wars.

glorious machine isnt it?

>*Blocks your path*

>suffer causality's they had never known before
Probably not. Given the K/D ration of Soviet units vs Germans
American units actually fared pretty well against the Germans. Americans would have kicked the soviets shit in. You are delusional if you think otherwise.

>he believe the lend lease meme
>lend lease
>a fucking meme
/leftypol/ pls this is pure delusion.
The soviets produced 7 fucking locomotive trains during the course of the entire war. The Americans sent them almost 2000. Not to mention millions of pounds of supplies that they hauled to the front line.
Commie economies are a complete fucking joke. And they always will be.

Russians had more units, but the difference wasn't "huge"
It had a lot to do with how the Red Army organized their divisions.

Someone make a fucking meme of legolas pulling the arrow out of the dead dwarf in moria and throwing it down on the ground for this exact thread topic.

Have the arrow be a shittybait.jpg

The Empire was pretty good though right?

Nukes would have been the equivalent of massive city destroying air raids Germans did on Moscow and Stalingrad. Soviets would have just smiled and fought in the ruins like Russians did in Osowiec in WWI. They were used to war on a different level then the allies that sat it out.

No, they aren't you limey cunt. National Socialism is not Fascism.

Is stopping the spread of communism REALLY a waste of lives?

>American units actually fared pretty well against the Germans

I'm sure this has absolutely nothing to do to waiting to invade 2 years after the Soviets turned their tide and exterminated the best Germany had to offer.

>what purpose would that of had besides wasting more lives?
To stop communism, the cold war and therefore all the proxy wars that followed. It created a great schism between superpowers.
I mean hell, Russia just hacked out election didn't they? They are still a threat :^)

Fascism is a defeated ideology, not a failed one.Same for national socialism .

Communism lasted longer , in different countries and cultures and still failed.

Getting banned and tabooe'd immediately after war doesn't make it a failure.

how many nukes do you think they had? not enough to stop the russians, that is for sure.

you are comparing how the americans fared against the germans vs the soviets? all the battle hardened german units were sent east to fight the russians, it would have been a blood bath for both sides. i have never been to /leftypol/ im just stating the truth that the allies would be fighting a war with an enemy that is not on there last legs like the germans, american forces were in no way superior to the russians

You had to ship your military across an ocean and your allies were smashed. You could not have fought Russia in a conventional war in Europe due to logistics.

Bullshit.

>USA only faces 15% of the Wehrmacht
>still lose 16 million soldiers

>the only materials the russians needed was food really
>allied tanks and weapons could not even compare to russian tanks and weapons

How are the Slavshit scrapheads going to get to the Allied troops without fuel, dipshit?

nigger in japan they waited half a centutury to even clean the place

>Dicking around on islands for 4 years

Holy fucking shit, you commies are actually this stupid.

How else do you expect American to get to Japan? Fly straight to Japan from America, drop some troops off, and job done? No. Do you have no grasp on the depth of the Pacific campaign, and the effort needed to control the waves, air, and land on the way to Japan? No, you don't.

Yeah, it made sense for the Soviets to push into China, you understand how Geography works?

>Do a quick Google search, of the amount of supplies needed by the USSR by the United States.

Ever question why you never see all the equipment sent to the Ruskies in their wartime photographs, it's because they were doctored, and removed. There's no way you can be THIS stupid.

>election hack meme

why stop communism when it stopped itself?

>what are the baku oil fields

Baku oil fields

>Who is Franco?
>Who is Salazar?
>Who is Pinochet?

>K/D ratio
On Eastern front total Axis casualties are 5,241,000 and their combat casualties are 4,482,000 and. Total Soviet military casualties
are 10,5 mln, but out of them only 7,051,000 are KIA, others died in german POW camps. Other 16 million casualties are civilians. There is no 10:1 k/d, it's not even 2:1

Russian tanks and material was superior to material shipped from USA from land lease

The US/UK had plans to rapidly retool West Germany for war. Plus the US economy was full swing into war time production. There was never a better time to do it.
Immediately after the war the Soviets gained as much strength as we had and their industry was completely rebuilt.

>forgetting about the entire Pacific campaign
wew

Seems you have no idea why socialism "failed".

US deaths were 400k worldwide, around 2.5% of troops.

he believes all the US propaganda of MUH USA WON THE WAR

>They would have just smiled

Okay done with you now. Russians arnt Orcs.

Let put this in simple terms so your Socialist brain can comprehend my point:

*Baku Oil Fields here*
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*Bombed Bridge*
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*Slavshit """tanks""" that have no fuel*
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*Massacred German Civilians*
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*Frontline here*

>the soviets turned the ride
>the soviets exterminated the best Germany had to offer

was winter soviet in the 40s?

If I have $55, ad I need $45 to pay for something, and you give me that $45; Yeah, you technically had more money, but you still had to borrow 45% of your total cost.

Really thinks the thonker.

>how dare u underappreciate the 4 years of effort and casualties it took to get to Japan that combined compares to a 2 weeks of fighting on the Eastern front.

Burgers legitimately think dick jousting with nips compares to full on land based total war with millions of well equipped soldiers having clear attack lanes to go fucking anywhere.

Almost every nation since the bronze age lived in a system that could be considered fascist.

ussr have lost 1-1,3:1 against germans
and 1 : 1,4 against axis combined

western allies have lost 4 : 1 against germans

western soldiers had inferior equipemnt and training in comparison with ussr or germany (because both had high experience in land war). if you relly only on numbers without thinking at all lol.

It works untill monkeys much more numberous (UK, USA, USSR) unite forces and destroy this.

They were. Look up Attack of the Dead.

Give me the source for those numbers. They sound like complete bullshit.

> haha winter only affects germans not russians who are much more underequipped and bombed out
> winter went extinct after 1945, just ask al gore

>we were outnumbered rreeeeeee
weak argument
just to remind - it was Hitler who declared war on the USA, not wise versa

thanks to all the oil that the americans and british gave away to the russians along with the baku oil fields massive output of fuel the russians would have no problem reaching the front lines

>slavshit tanks

didnt the British use sherman tanks? one of the worse tanks of the war?

Why do people assume USA won WW2?
Soviets won it

So much Hollywood brainwashing

I'm not going to sit here, and pretend with you that one is more hardcore! and tough! and the real men fight this kind of war!

I haven't said shit about any of the Soviet campaigns. I don't know why you commie idiots are so set out on trying to throw shit on American military achievements in the second world war.

"There were more people in this allotted amount of space, so this was definitely more dangerous and yeah, so shut up"

...

Don't talk shit about things you don't understand.

w-we helped too

They could just use whatever magic carpets they used to get to the front line in the first place since apparently all of their logistics would be gone with a snap of a finger, unlike the indestructible burger logistics that are 3000 miles of ocean

> on American military achievements in the second world war.
Because you came late to the European theater when the Soviets had already cleaned the mess

>2 fascist countries ally
>it takes the entire industrialized world (and most of the industrialized world) to defeat them

>10+ communist countries ally
>collapse from the inside


hmm wonder what the difference is?

i have no time, just open normal (non meme fag source) source about war casualties and see.

ussr have lost 8,7, axis - 12 (inclusng 7-9 germans), 90% of axis soldiers were killed by ussr.

before the end of 1944 western allies were losing 4 soldiers per 1 german, despite they fough 2nd sort inferior divisions, because all best divisions were in the east.

It's as simple as having an island conduct a test... idiots... fuckin human...

>Shlomo, we're talking of the pacific.

>When was the right time to make a landing? Please elaborate.

>dont talk shit about something you dont understand

i understand perfectly well that the sherman was a death trap on treads, even their own crews said so

fascist countries ally
You forgot to mention eastern european scum + finland + numerious volunteers from the occupied territories.

What's happening here?

You're completely full of shit. Please do not reply to one of my excellent post again.
Post source or fuck off.

wow dude I bet you've seen 'Fury' like at least six times