Why there are no Anarcho-Capitalism generals here on Sup Forums?

C'mon guys, they also made a general on communism, why not making one on Anarcho-Capitalism?

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There's a libertarian general that gets semi-frequently posted.

Can you link me it?

It's called /biz/
We are still accumulating user, we can take over after we moon

Because your bullshit ideology would never work, you guys are as bad as the communists

Economic freedom is directly correlated with economic prosperity.

Yeah too much freedom
>inb4 muh freedom

So you prefer less prosperity? Do the favelas of Brazil or mud huts of Africa appeal to you?

Because collectivism is a form of communist government. True Ancap threads have no replies

Can someone post the required reading for AnCap?

That would be nice in giving people the foundation.

Meme ball thread. GO

Shut up nigger, you literally have no arguments against my McNuke, the only way your bullshit of a ideology would work is if everybody on the planet forsaked there evolutionary makeup and became enlightened overnight. But if that happened Communism would be the go too even then.

>I don't know what race is

Even Chile and Botswana have turned out well despite being made of Latinos and Blacks by being more free market than their neighbors.

STOP MAKING GENERALS OF FAILED IDEOLOGIES

Go ahead no one is stopping you.

Like /natsoc/?

how much did you make the past three/four days on btc? I've been in since $1950

Also there's an /LRG/ discord, I'll see if I can find it

collectivism is bad

Ohhhh user got you there

>how much did you make the past three/four days on btc? I've been in since $1950
BTC 32%+ for me

kys swastika commie

noice, I'm up 55% at the peak

I've been wondering where the AnCap threads went. These are always so wonderfully autistic, I love em.

What do you devoted AnCaps think of a Night Watchman state? What functions could it have that fill the gaps in AnCap logic?

>Implying Chile is any better of than its neighbors
Worse off actually
data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.MKTP.CD?end=2016&locations=AR-CL-BR&name_desc=false&start=1961
And this is coming from a country that has a very large European minority within it. South Africa showed what a black mass led by a white minority is capable of and Chile is hardly the best example of that. Botswana also has a very sizeable post-colonial white minority as well as being very sparsely populated.

>uses a graph of just GDP
That's like comparing Switzerland to China and claiming China is doing better because it has a bigger GDP. You have to look at the GDP per capita to get a proper view of things.

And here's the Human development index showing Chile doing better.

And this is a chart showing international corruption. You'll notice that Chile is one of the few Latin American nations doing okay.

And finally just to show the correlation to economic free here's another pic.

Better than who? They're literally par the course for the countries in their region. They're no better off than Argentina or Uruguay, which both also happen to be South African countries with large white portions of their populations. You're just proving my point, bud.

Thank you! Did you foun it now?

>Germany
>economic free
lol. do you have a permit to post those images?

For future use

>I strawman the people I don't like because if I didn't my shitty globalist ideology wouldn't hold up
Typical leftist

>Libertarian
>Globalist
Pick one

Oh so you support economic protectionism and strong, tightly regulated borders? You believe in nationalism, as opposed to humanitarianism, ie your people's rights should be held higher than any other people's?

Hey you fags stop arguing about who has more freedom and come troll the bootlickers

There's an /lrg/ site with reading list etc
libertarianright.org/reading/

Last /lrg/ thread
Think the discord is in there

Thanks!

>Someone called us on our bullshit in this thread so we better just run with our tails between our legs to troll some other thread
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AnCap is so fucking natural there is no point making thread about it.

>Communism just works guys there's no need to even discuss it

We all have the same rights as endowed by the act of our creation. If you wish to restrict or forfeit yours by allowing rulers to subvert them, that is your choice to make. If we desire to protect our property or trade it with others, that is our choice to make.

Can there at least be a super tiny government for public schools, roads, and military?

No need to discuss communism, just need pilots

Why?

>this is the person who will tell you the old Human Nature meme on
>It just do

>globalist
No. Free-trade and voluntary association only.

Because I don't want to be a marine for Amazon.

You can always form a militia. Heck, right now there's 276 militias within the USA alone.

Stop being an ancap larper. What do you want out of it? Toxic lakes, smog filled cities, streets plastered in advertisments and prostitutes and druggies on every street corner? The ancap utopian society is a fucking nightmare.
Im not for socialism. Im for fascism that seeks to do whats best for the people. I dont want socialism. I want freedom - but not total freedom. I belive in the right for government to purge degenerates. You claim market forces will purge degenerates naturally but look at our current system - tranny comic strip authors are getting thousands a month. We need a boot that stomps out the gilth and purifies the nation.
I think most of you are just mad about all the excessive regulation and taxation - so am i, but you take it too far.

I fucking asked that question a few posts ago REEEEEEEEEEE

because it's jewish movement, fag.

If that is your desire, then create or support it.

Just know that minarchist government is what we had in the states before it became mired in collectivism and central planning and expanded out of control.

Also, know that employees leading public institutions do not have the incentive that private business owners in a competitive free market have to provide you with a quality service. A public institution is always a monopoly and monopolies always lead to increased expenses and lowered quality of the goods and services they provide.

>Toxic lakes, smog filled cities
That's what we want to prevent.

>prostitutes and druggies on every street corner
There would likely be less druggies and prostitutes actually, they would just be less hidden.

dude I haven't met a swede like your self thank you

>not wanting gilth
So who prospers in a society with no gibs, voluntary association only (ie freedom to discriminate, no diversity bullshit) , no affirmative action etc etc and where you can create a covenant (contractually enforced) like pic related?

>We all have the same rights
So in other words, we're all equal? That sounds mighty leftist of you.

Free trade leads to globally-integrated economies, that's exactly what's occurring now. Your quote is kind of nonsensical too, harping on about how we need "free-association" but refusing to allow people to voluntarily live wherever they please. That doesn't logically follow. He wants to integrate our economies, but not our people. Why stop halfway? It's unprincipled.

Ancap checking in, but like any good capitalist, too busy hustling and employing people to spend a lot of time fucking around on Sup Forums.

I was actually thinking about how social planning would work in ancapistan, and Geo-libertarian (gov can only collect land taxes) monarchy seems pretty in line with the NAP so long as the monarch is a literal king and has full private ownership of the estate and funds. My problem with Geo-Libertarianism is that it over rewards businesses with small geographical burden and punishes large land ventures like agriculture. So since monarchs tend to be discontiguous and geographically small (Austria/Germany was 138 different kingdoms before its nationalization), You could have Geo-Libertarian monarchs control urban commons and business centers while rural areas and farms function as completely sovereign property.

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AnCaps can't explain the free market without sounding like a terrorist

Economy good?

>It was the free market! Praise it!

Economy bad?

>The free market will fix it! Believe harder, fucking infidels!

>tfw 20 year old NEET's who have never worked a day in their life are actively shilling for me in a circle-jerk imageboard

There has been several, but they seem to collapse because there isn't any kind of order.

if it makes you butthurt we must be doing something right

When all the good economies are free market and all the bad economies are heavily regulated it starts to becomes less of an argument and more of a denial of basic statistical facts.

>free association
No its free trade, and voluntary association. Voluntary association means no affirmative action, no diversity, and the right to discriminate. He's saying you can lock borders down and refuse immigration,while still maintaining free trade - if you choose to do so.

Ancap free trade is not the same as current regulated, artificial monopoly, capitalist system.

> harping on about how we need "free-association" but refusing to allow people to voluntarily live wherever they please
see:

Private property cannot exist in a meaningful way without a state to act as a moral arbiter and enforce it.

Why rely on the state as arbiter? You have good reason to trust your Government, and to give them a monopoly on judicial violence? I'm not sure the bundy's would agree..

>Private property cannot exist in a meaningful way without a state to act as a moral arbiter and enforce it.
you're partially right, and ancapism doesn't deny that private property needs enforcement, it just seeks to privatize that essential facet of society as well
youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o&t=6s

this idea I think is really useful even independent of ancapism, it allows for the most efficient, humane, and effective methods of laws and law enforcement to rise to the top, and for real separation of powers to exist

Of course you could do that, but why would you want to? It doesn't really make sense from either side of the argument. You're putting yourself hallway between globalism and nationalism. You're integrating global capital, but not global labor. It's kind of nonsensical in a way. From a globalist/ancap perspective you're impeding on the rights of individuals from moving to different countries. From a nationalist perspective, you're making your nation reliant on foreign goods as opposed to taking what you need in a true Darwinian fashion. You're neither making your nation stronger nor creating some kind of deterritorialized hyper-individual wasteland. What are you trying to accomplish with such a policy?

That's who I'm responding to...

you obviously didn't read the picture, i'm telling you to read it

I obviously did read the picture because I addressed it's argument in my reply. It's an argument in favor of just the globalization of our economy rather than the globalization of both our economy and people. Well my question is, why not opposed the global integration of both?

The acknowledgment of personal sovereignty is not the same thing as support for equality of outcome nor equality of opportunity for that matter.

It is merely a statement of fact that we own ourselves. Because of that, we own our actions and the effects of those actions.

To infringe upon self-ownership and principles arising from self-ownership is unethical and thus we have a natural law, so to speak.

Sorry, I was unclear in my previous post. Hoppe is not suggesting that as a course of action. He's responding to the suggestion that free trade implies immigration and globalism. He's saying they are not intrinsically linked "so a restrictive immigration policy and segregation is not a rejection of free trade". Basically its a counter to the libertarianism/ancap = open borders crap.

Yes and you are saying that it applies to everyone equally. Everyone is equal and to not say everyone is equal is unethical. That's no different than a communist, you just have a different definition of equal.

> why not opposed the global integration of both?
because that makes you objectively weaker in every possible metric
>significantly poorer
>less allies
>lower cost of going to war with you since you isolated yourself
there's a reason we put sanctions our enemies, doing it to yourself is asinine

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>So in other words
no you retard

Everything right of liberalism just feeds Porky with money... What many on pol would refer to as the jew.

sure, if it's all voluntary then go and knock yourself out with your statist fetish. but don't have the wrong ideas and try to force people to pay for your fetish...

Including liberalism

>Toxic lakes, smog filled cities, streets plastered in advertisments and prostitutes and druggies on every street corner?
sounds pretty comfy tbqdesu

don't spend it all in one place

t.national SOCIALIST

It is true that everyone is born owning themselves. To say otherwise is a perversion of truth as you cannot disagree without demonstrating ownership and control of yourself.

It is indeed false to say that everyone has the same biological, sociological, or psychological proclivities just as it is false to say that they all possess the same amount of resources or earn the same wage. Just stating facts here.

a 15 yo on a chinese dog skinning forum debunked decades of scientific research by nobel prize winning economists with just one sentence

It's a kike ideology it's exactly where the kikes would flourish.

They don't necessarily have to go together, but it's logical that one would follow the other. I'd argue that this is exactly what has occurred to the West in the past few decades. The idea of completely replacing the people of the West with 3rd Worlders certainly wasn't prevalent in say the 50s when ideas of global free trade certainly were. But moneyed interests made richer by economic globalization have slowly come to realize that the globalization of labor would make them even more rich. And eventually you get the whole corporate machine backing multiculturalism and diversity.

Regardless, that doesn't really answer my question as to why you'd want to meet the globalists halfway on this in the first place. History has clearly shown that imperialism and colonialism can more than make up for the gains free trade would otherwise bring. Why trade with South Africa for platinum when you can knock in the door and take it yourself? Of course you'd have to be brutal, humanitarian occupation is doomed to failure.

Gains from trade are due to comparative advantage, if the nation you are trading with has no comparative advantage in anything over you then you would gain nothing from trading with them. That's not to say that complete autarky in the form of comparative advantage in every possible industry is necessarily possible, but that a sufficiently powerful nation could gain a comparative advantage in enough industries to make up for the opportunity cost of there being less trade.

I don't think we can talk if you're not proficient in English.

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Perfectly happy with one, but the communism one is a troll thread, some guy from leftypol posts it and it gets bombed with "fuck off n die" so that's why it's always bumped

not an argument

There already is one nigger, it's called /lrg/

here's the last thread

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>Expecting an argument against a non-argument

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It's not true that everyone is born owning themselves. You're born owning nothing. A baby has ownership over literally nothing, even a small animal like a cat could take the world from it. Creation does not endow you with anything other than life, certainly not rights. You own as much as you can take in your given circumstances and people are born unable to take the food or water or shelter they need to survive.

Lolbertarians are just thinly veiled minarchists. Fuck em.