(((Holocaust))) Debate

Guys a friend of mine is going insane because I denied the holocaust. I need all the evidence against it and sources too.
Also, if you have evidence for it, share too.

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youtube.com/watch?v=YVmIaBW-HjI
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youtube.com/watch?v=7dxsVSzL4HE
youtube.com/watch?v=3HlPcaP9x5o
youtube.com/watch?v=80GgRWuXcO8
forum.axishistory.com//viewtopic.php?t=10044
iwm.org.uk/history/the-liberation-of-bergen-belsen
thenation.com/article/zyklon-b-us-border/
journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/146642403705800209
jstor.org/stable/pdf/4578621.pdf?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents
youtube.com/watch?v=wXcgM8KVZMA&t=604s
ihr.org/books/leuchter/leuchter.toc.html
ihr.org/jhr/v11/v11p207_staff.html
germarrudolf.com/persecution/germars-persecution/auschwitz-forensics/
youtube.com/watch?v=RHzWo79dCHs
youtu.be/AaFc_2CYWDE
youtu.be/0DULtZRzKsU
goodreads.com/book/show/628069.Crime_Doctor
20thcenturytruth.wordpress.com/allied-forensic-autopsies-confirm-disease-not-gas/
bergenbelsen.co.uk/pages/TrialTranscript/Trial_Day_014.html#Day014_KramerStatement
mailstar.net/Hoss-Memoirs.html
amazon.co.uk/Legions-Death-Enslavement-Military-Classics/dp/1844150429
youtube.com/watch?v=FUt-yxJODxI
dailymotion.com/video/x4iecvq
youtube.com/watch?v=dtlPlZGvgY0
forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=4332
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youtu.be/kPdxhLUKZYM?list=PLo0ThsDnveH5nv5TNviBrGTX9P6IrYfIe&t=412
youtube.com/watch?v=tPc899uUb-A
youtube.com/watch?v=jgGP_evkvOk
youtube.com/watch?v=TxpIsep4160
stormfront.org/forum/t850540/
ihr.org/jhr/v07/v07p389_faurisson.html
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read a book. image are good but not enough

this video, along with millions of others, tell the truth.
this particular video has jews telling what really happened
youtube.com/watch?v=YVmIaBW-HjI

also: there are no documents from the nazis to plan to exterminate jews, only to put them in detention camps temporarily

/pol has too many stormfags who fell for the it never happened meme.

They might be right that not all that many were gassed but over 4 million jews at the low end died.

Now you can argue they had it coming or not but the nothing happened meme is retarded.

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>/pol has too many stormfags who fell for the it never happened meme.
nobody believes jews weren't sent to camps

>4 million jews at the low end died.
4 million jews at the low end? Try 300,000. Also, by claiming only 4 million jews died, you have just denied the holocaust. congratulations, you would go to jail in Germany

This post was meant for (you)

It is illegal to deny it in most of Europe.
Lol bit suspicious

It was Watson! Fun fact he was guilty of conspiracy and got promoted for it. Scary fact they never stopped.

At Majdanek, (((Soviets))) claimed that 2 million Jews were killed in gas chambers. Thanks to revisionists, today it's believed less than 60,000 died (primarily of disease). The Red Cross estimated only 8,000 had died there. That is a drop of almost 2 million. Most normies don't know that, and continue quoting the 6 gorillion.

At Auschwitz, (((Soviets))) claimed 4 million people died ingas chambers. Today, the TOTAL death toll sits at 1.1 million (from ALL causes, eg disease). That is a drop of almost 3 million, though still grossly inflated going by Red Cross reports.

Normies blindly believe the 6 gorillion because they don'tbother examining such a grisly topic from a critical pov. They take it on faith that (((Hollywood))) and what they learnt in school is 100% factual.

Watch these, if you STILL believe the Holohoax myth, you may be a Jew!
>The JQ:
youtube.com/watch?v=IKy3fCvMz-8 [Open]
>Auschwitz - Why The Gas Chambers Are A Myth:
youtube.com/watch?v=PE56dcgGVMs [Open]
>The Majdanek Gas Chamber Myth:
youtube.com/watch?v=pDsJtB2F9i8 [Open]
>1/3rd of the Holocaust (debunked):
youtube.com/watch?v=7dxsVSzL4HE [Open]
>Buchenwald: A Dumb Dumb Portrayal of Evil:
youtube.com/watch?v=3HlPcaP9x5o [Open]

>The Last Days of the Big Lie
Spielberg's Oscar-winning documentary about the Shoah uses discredited eyewitness Paul Parks, who lies about being in a unit that liberated Dachau.
Parks, a known fraud, was in an earlier documentary about black soldiers liberating concentration camps, criticized by the press after being disproven by historians and military records.
NO BLACKS were involved in liberating ANY camps. But Spielberg uses Paul Parks as 1 of his 5 key witnesses in The Last Days, because the ONE American soldier in it couldn't be a WHITE guy, no he wanted it to be a NIGGER for his anti-white agenda.
Other obvious lies are also exposed:
youtube.com/watch?v=80GgRWuXcO8 [Open]

There isn't a single Modern European historian who doesn't believe the holocaust happens.

Who are you going to listen to, people who have dedicated their lives to studying the holocaust, or Sup Forums infographics.

Don't fall for stormfags retard memes

I'm not in Germany and it might have been less then 6 million. I don't care what their laws are I did my own research and the low end estimate is 4 million.

Well, your a holocaust denier according to ((them)) for questioning their sacred number

This not even Irving denies it he only denies Hitler was directly involved.

Holocaust denial generally relies on two massive massive conspiracy theories.

1. The commies fabricated it and in reality all the jews who disappeared just went to the US and Israel.

2. Everyone fabricated it and they just went to the US and Israel.

Well why did 70% of the Dutch jews disappear after the war, it wasn't some poor shithole in commie territory that they'd all want to leave?

There is no war Israel and the US got anywhere near 3 million Polish jews? Where they'd go... nearly all of them disappeared from Poland?

Watched this and uh, I can never see the holocaust the same.

>4 million on the low end

Lmao.

Sure I looked into it myself and I don't care about their sacred number, and it might have been as low as 4ish million. But the question is was killing jews Reich policy.

With 4+ million at the low end it certainly was.

forum.axishistory.com//viewtopic.php?t=10044

>The minutes for the meeting on 17 April 1943 record a statement by Ribbentrop, in Hitler's presence, to a point made by Horthy:
On Horthy's retort, what should he do with the Jews then, after he had pretty well taken all means of living from them - he surely couldn't beat them to death - The Reich Foreign Minister replied that the Jews must either be annihilated or taken to concentration camps. There was no other way.
2. This blunt statement by Ribbentrop contributed to the conclusion of the judges at the Nuremberg trials in October 1946, that Ribbentrop had played an important part in the 'final solution' and was guilty of war crimes and crimes against humanity.
3. On 17 April 1943, Hitler almost immediately confirmed Ribbentrop's explicitly murderous statement at some length:
Where the Jews were left to themselves, as for example in Poland, gruesome poverty and degeneracy had ruled. They were just pure parasites. One had fundamentally cleared up this state of affairs in Poland. If the Jews there didn't want to work, they were shot. If they couldn't work, they had to perish. They had to be treated like tuberculosis bacilli, from which a healthy body could be infected. That was not cruel, if one remembered that even innocent natural creatures like hares and deer had to be killed so that no harm was caused. Why should one spare the beasts who wanted to bring us Bolshevism more?

So children old people jews who weren't laborers before weren't suited for heavy labor on sparse potatoe soup rations so they "had to perish" by Hitler's own words to Horthy.

Holy fuck you are a retard. Winners of a war using propaganda isn't a massive conspiracy theory.

There are historians who have tried to publish revisionist stuff but they get disbarred and legal action is brought against them.

I'm not denying that some of them had it coming for being commies.

I'm not denying that there were a lot of professional holocaust survivors who made shit up to make money.

I'm not even denying that gas was probably a lesser used means of killing them.

I'm just saying millions of jews died, enough to guarantee it was Reich policy.

That might work in countries where it is illegal or even in countries like the US where the social pressure is high. But it would have been debunked in Asia by now (where no one gives a shit) if it was all bullshit but yet this hasn't happened.

Ironically, it will be artificial intelligence sifting through volumes of literature, official government and military documents, newspaper headlines and census records, that will officially determine whether or not the holocaust occurred.

Proving that they did kill hundreds of thousands of kites only makes me like Hitler even more.

How the fuck do you fit 4 bodies in there?

it's not that there's evidence against it, there's no evidence for it.

>I'm just saying millions of jews died, enough to guarantee it was Reich policy.

theres no evidence millions of Jews died.

You also probably masturbate that the nazis purposefully exterminated Slavs, hence that is why you will in your life be exterminated as well. Slava Rodu.

what about the lack of aerial photos of these "policy" enforcing camps in action?
the lack of evidence at the Nuremberg trials?
the red cross numbers saying less than a million?

b-but muuuh wannsee conference

This thread is only at 35 posts and the kikes are already dumping shill infographs lol

Well what is the rebuttal to Wannsee?

I have a lot of doubts about the holocaust too, but is this not a real event or something?

my grandfather told me as the gas was running out towards the end of the war they had to kill the last 1.5 million jews by smashing rocks on their heads.

Lol the nazis were known for keeping records

as far as i know the only "documents" that do exist from the conference are known to be fake.

Lol worst bait I've ever seen. If my friend said that I'd just think the were trolling and kek hard

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>asking for evidences
>asking for sources

>on Sup Forums
Do you realize that infographics have no value in actual debates?

the "holocaust" happened, as in jews were shipped off and put in camps, but a lot of the things done to them are pretty much bunk.
the lampshades/soap horseshit.
the body burning, the gas chambers are pretty much total bunk.
that's why the whole title of holocaust denial is such a garbage term, because no one actually denies it happened, they deny the facts being exageratted so much.

their source for what was decided there s peter longerich
that guy wrote "The Unwritten Order: Hitler's Role in the Final Solution."
so you see how slimy everything is? an "unwritten" order AKA lets make up whatever we want

You need to be careful with this subject. All it takes is for him to think you are so ridiculous that he cant contain what you told him to himself. Then your whole social circle will think you're just some dumbass plebian racist.

To be fair, the Nazis tried many scientific experiments that would go against our ethics, such as, beheading live humans or cutting them in half with a chainsaw. They were well known for keeping well documented records and we learned a lot from some experiments that many people would not allow to replicate.

>actual debates
something you'll never have with holocaust alarmists

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much like jewish tears

thats right. after they would chainsaw your skin off, it would be made into lampshades
as you were still breathing those last breaths, you were hooked up to the masturbation machine and jerked to death
your fluids become flammable after orgasm and helped cremate the bodies into non-evidence faster

wow ive seen so much and this is good!

Why would any Asians care?

Fuck off JIDF

>I can't debate with legitimate historians!!
Damn, you've really showed me.

Idk if you thought I was trolling but I wasn't. They did experiments no one else could and science today has learned a lot from their unethical efforts (unethical in today's terms for the majority)

There are too many jews in the world for that number to be remotely true. Where are the mass graves for all these millions? That is more than the population of LA. Where are the literal mountains of remains?

Zyklon B was a common cyanide pesticide. During WW2, Germans used it to delouse fabrics at concentration camps, because of the typhus epidemic on the Eastern front from 1941.

Typhus was the primary cause of death in German WW2 concentration camps, the vast majority near the end of the war as German society collapsed.

For example, Anne Frank and her sister, Margot, died from typhus in the camp hospital at Bergen-Belsen. 15,000 of the 50,000 Jews who died in Bergen-Belsen died AFTER it had been liberated and put under quarantine by British troops.

>Nearly 14,000 prisoners would die after liberation.
iwm.org.uk/history/the-liberation-of-bergen-belsen

Americans used Zyklon B to fumigate the clothes of Mexican immigrants at the border.

>Zyklon B arrived in El Paso in the 1920s courtesy of the US government. In 1929, for example, a Public Health Service officer, J.R. Hurley, ordered $25 worth of the material–hydrocyanic acid in pellet form–as a fumigating agent for use at the El Paso delousing station, where Mexicans crossed the border from Juárez.
thenation.com/article/zyklon-b-us-border/

Zyklon B was also used by the British Empire for fumigating passenger ships and food granaries, as discussed in these journals.

>During the past three years various products such as Zyklon B have been used in Colombo in the fumigation of vessels, lighters, granaries, rat burrows
journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/146642403705800209

>A Report on the Disposal of Zyklon-B Residue following the Fumigation of the Holds of Vessels
jstor.org/stable/pdf/4578621.pdf?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

As discussed in the journal above, Zyklon B leaves a distinctive Prussian blue residue. In pic related, the Prussian blue is clearly present after 75 years in the Majdanek fumigation chamber, but not in the Auschwitz main homicidal gas chamber.

that would only happen to you if you were not put into the holocauster right after you arrived.

with a lie

>(((historians!)))

Extensive testing has been done on the Auschwitz gas chamber walls, both by independent researchers and the Auschwitz museum authorities. They all returned the same result. They were found to contain only trace amounts of cyanide, as much as one would expect to find in a room that had been fumigated as in the examples in the previous post.

In America in the late 80s, Fred Leuchter was “The nation’s leading adviser on capital punishment," according to the New York Times (October 13, 1990). In 1988, he tested the walls of the Auschwitz gas chamber at the behest of Ernst Zundel and found only trace amounts of cyanide. It was this scientific proof of a gas chamber hoax that brought holocaust revisionism into the mainstream (1:23).

youtube.com/watch?v=wXcgM8KVZMA&t=604s

ihr.org/books/leuchter/leuchter.toc.html

The results of the Leuchter reports have since been replicated by both the Auschwitz museum

ihr.org/jhr/v11/v11p207_staff.html

and Germar Rudolf, an Australian chemistry professor who gained his doctorate from the Max Planck Institute

germarrudolf.com/persecution/germars-persecution/auschwitz-forensics/

Did the Nazis gas thousands of Jews at a time for years on end using only trace amounts of cyanide gas from a common pesticide? No. Nevertheless, it is sold as a gas chamber by the Auschwitz museum to millions of tourists every single year.

It only emerged that the main homicidal gas chamber on display at Auschwitz museum is a Soviet reconstruction of an air raid shelter made to look like a homicidal gas chamber, including holes in the roof and a fake chimney that isn't even connected to anything (pic related) because Dr. Franciszek Piper, the head curator of the Auschwitz museum, is on camera describing this in an interview with the Jewish American historian David Cole in 1992 (23:49).

youtube.com/watch?v=RHzWo79dCHs

no it is possible i wont tell you how but it is possible. believe me.

Don't engage, just say you don't care about it it was forever ago

one thing about that chimney picture i dont get.
if it was build by the russians after the liberation of the camp why would they be so retarded and dont connect it to the building or at least build it really close to it? i mean its like they wanted the people to think its fake.

the zundel trial is a good resource especially as it made the most credible holocaust historian raul hilberg look incompetent.

youtu.be/AaFc_2CYWDE
youtu.be/0DULtZRzKsU

Dr Charles P Larson was the head of the forensic coroner group that investigated the camps in Western Allied occupied zones. He described this experience in his book.

>Crime Doctor: Dr. Charles P. Larson, world's foremost medical-detective, reports from his crime file
goodreads.com/book/show/628069.Crime_Doctor

As part of the US War Crimes Investigation Team, Dr Larson performed autopsies at Dachau and some twenty other German camps, examining on some days more than 100 corpses. He was later questioned for three days by US Army prosecutors on his findings.

In an interview with the Wichita Eagle, 1 April 1980, he called the holocaust a hoax.

>Larson has talked little publicly about the war experience. One reason for his silence has been that his autopsy findings conflicted with the widely held belief that most Jews in Nazi camps were exterminated by gassing, shooting or poisoning.

>"What we’ve heard is that six million Jews were exterminated. Part of that is a hoax," Larson said...

>...most died as a result of the conditions to which they were subjected rather than mass exterminations...

>...autopsies showed that "death by gassing and shooting were rare. Never was a case of poisoning uncovered."

20thcenturytruth.wordpress.com/allied-forensic-autopsies-confirm-disease-not-gas/

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This could've been an interesting read if not for the autistic "XD"s and "edgyedgyedgyedgy"s all over the fucking thing. Fucking Hans

See pic

Ever seen pic related? We've all seen in it every WW2 textbook or documentary ever. What do you see here? Proof of the holocaust, right?

WRONG.

What you see is a picture of a soldier in British uniform at Bergen-Belsen. All of those Jews died from typhus/starvation AFTER it had been liberated and quarantined during the two months they were in British custody.

>Nearly 14,000 prisoners would die after liberation.
iwm.org.uk/history/the-liberation-of-bergen-belsen

Bergen-Belsen was not a death camp. The 50,000 Jews who died there (14,000 of whom died in British custody) were not deliberately genocided. They died for exactly the same reasons as the Jews in the pic and Anne Frank.

This is what Josef Kramer, Assistant Commandant of Auschwitz and "the butcher of Belsen" attested to at his trial:
>I have heard of the allegations of former prisoners in Auschwitz referring to a gas chamber there, the mass executions and whippings, the cruelty of the guards employed, and that all this took place either in my presence or with my knowledge. All I can say to all this is that it is untrue from beginning to end.
bergenbelsen.co.uk/pages/TrialTranscript/Trial_Day_014.html#Day014_KramerStatement

That is your holocaust. A lot of Jews dying from typhus and starvation near the end of the war. No government conspiracy, no gassings, no 6 million.,

ive talked to a german history teacher the other day and as is asked him why he thinks the holocaust has happened he told me that all the pictures of the pilled up bodys should be evidence enough.

See pic!!!

How does

X + 2m;

X + 4m;

and X + 1.5m

all equal 6m at the same time?

Rudolf Hoess: Commandant of Auschwitz:
>"I was treated terribly by the [British] Field Security Police. I was dragged to Heide and, of all places, to the same military barracks from which I had been released eight months before by the British. During the first interrogation they beat me to obtain evidence. I do not know what was in the transcript, or what I said, even though I signed it, because they gave me liquor and beat me with a whip. It was too much even for me to bear."
mailstar.net/Hoss-Memoirs.html

Captain Bernard Clarke (interviewed by Rupert Butler):
>"The prisoner was torn from the top bunk, the pyjamas ripped from his body. He was then dragged naked to one of the slaughter tables, where it seemed to Clarke the blows and screams were endless. Eventually, the Medical Officer urged the Captain: 'Call them off, unless you want to take back a corpse.'"
amazon.co.uk/Legions-Death-Enslavement-Military-Classics/dp/1844150429

>Hellstorm (1:09:02)
youtube.com/watch?v=FUt-yxJODxI

this. my cousin barely escaped the gas at buchenwald. he now lives in boca with his girlfriend and her son

>The Truth Behind The Gates Of Auschwitz
youtube.com/watch?v=RHzWo79dCHs

>The Majdanek Gas Chamber Myth
youtube.com/watch?v=pDsJtB2F9i8

>The Treblinka Archaeology Hoax
dailymotion.com/video/x4iecvq

>One Third Of The Holocaust: Treblinka, Belzec, Sobibor
youtube.com/watch?v=7dxsVSzL4HE

Like this picture? Whatever the pictures of piled up bodies show, it is not a government conspiracy to murder 6 million jews in gas chambers.

they showed us these pictures very early in school. and if i remember my reaction to it correctly i was like "oh my god all these dead skinny people. the nazis must have been real monsters". after seeing these pictures the first time i was so shocked that i would basically eat every story they feed me.

The tour doesn't go round the back. They've also stopped people going to look at the swimming pool too. Begs too many questions.

>Jewish survivors describe life in Auschwitz
youtube.com/watch?v=dtlPlZGvgY0

>hospital
>education centre
>forty-five thousand volume library
>mail service
>special money
>legal advice, including standing order that inmates could personally submit complaints to the commandant
>cinema
>theatre, including children's opera and weekly Saturday review
>art classes
>six orchestras
>swimming pool
>football field (next to the "gas chambers") with games between inmates and SS
>fencing classes
>visitors
>brothel
forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=4332

>AND INDUSTRIAL SCALE HOMICIDAL GAS CHAMBERS LOL

A soldatcommando drew this. This is how he said it actually happened

He said they worked without gloves, and even ate lunch among the bodies

This couldn't of happened. Xyklon B would cling onto the skin and clothing. It's deadly and can be absorbed through the skin. Anyone working like this would have gotten terrible sick after one shift. Yet this soldatcommando never mentions anything at all about soldatcommandos getting sick from exposure. He claims to have worked the ovens for a year

Also according to a Polish goverment 1996 report, the levels of ferric cyanide on the walls of the alleged gas chamber in aushowitz are in line with other structures in the complex, which were occasionally sprayed with xyklon b for delousing. On the other hand the delousing gas chambers, which had selaing doors, warm air ventilation, exhaust ventilation systems etc were stain visibly blue

this is the best they got??

damn yeah they would need hazmat suits at least

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If these newspaper articles don't convince your friend that something is not right about the official story he's completely lost.

They were harping about the holocaust decades before it ever "happened".

What do these prove?

if he believes this is fake he can go to the new york times online archives and search for the articles. they are there i looked it up by myself.

It's about (((their))) globalist agenda. They want to run a prison planet of race-less, culture-less, nation-less, identity-less subdued sheep. They make up less than 1% of the world's population, yet look at all they control from the world's finances to the media that brainwashes us.

In short, they use the entertainment and news media to encourage globalism and discourage nationalism and traditional western values. They distort and lie about the present and past in that effort.

The truth about immigration, by the numbers:
>youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE

Cultural Marxist Jews Admit Organizing White Genocide

The plan to eliminate the white race:
>youtube.com/watch?v=bOgkGzMdieI

Cultural Marxism in action… Political Correctness, the tip of the blade:
>youtube.com/watch?v=q6c_dinY3fM

Cultural Marxism & Social Justice Explained:
>youtube.com/watch?v=xnqIj8C2Aek

Why are we in Decline - Cultural Marxism:
>youtube.com/watch?v=VggFao85vTs

also see

The facts about slavery in North America:
>youtube.com/watch?v=b5tci36bNjg
>youtube.com/watch?v=PFHa4db3hA0
>youtube.com/watch?v=A94smJ9QJ5g

Cultural Marxist Jews fund media propaganda against whites on an enormous scale:
>youtube.com/watch?v=-4Ojbi6lXQI

Does this sound familiar at all? (starting at 6:52)
>youtu.be/kPdxhLUKZYM?list=PLo0ThsDnveH5nv5TNviBrGTX9P6IrYfIe&t=412

The Holocaust:
>youtube.com/watch?v=tPc899uUb-A
>youtube.com/watch?v=jgGP_evkvOk
>youtube.com/watch?v=TxpIsep4160

>this. my cousin barely escaped the gas at buchenwald. he now lives in boca with his girlfriend and her son

There were no gas chambers at Buchenwald, there are no longer even any claims any existed

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Oy vey 1933 and 1948

Good luck filtering out the avalanche of tinfoil hat bullshit you will receive here.

Also, your photograph of rounded up jews is evidence for a start.

Careful germanon don't get yourself locked up

>Also, your photograph of rounded up jews is evidence for a start.

evidence of gas chambers?

Jews were in some cases rounded up and interned, just like Japanese Americans were in America.

You lying little kike stormfront.org/forum/t850540/

lol it didn't take them long to start exaggerating.
510,000 to 600,000 in the same year.

This. Don't show him the pictures. You should show him the actual online archive so he has no option but to shut up.

Where was the swimming pool in the camp? I went a couple years ago and wasn't as into this so I didn't look for anything suspicious.

ihr.org/jhr/v07/v07p389_faurisson.html
>How the British Obtained the Confessions of Rudolf Höss
This is very interesting piece of the puzzle

KYS shill