I am a student at one of the most well known universities in Australia, and it is infested with Marxists. Their posters are found around every corner and I'm sick of tired of it.
The last straw came last semester when I saw a flyer that read "Tired of the racism and sexism on campus?", or something to that effect. We've given these bastards everything they wanted, they've got a feminist room, a queer safe space. They will never stop, just getting bolder and gaining more steam until we turn into American campuses.
I want to signal in some small way that there is push back to their propaganda. Their latest posters look like this. I want to create a document that will be placed under the title ‘socialism’ that begins ‘…is at its core, flawed’.
What is the strongest single argument against socialism? Keep in mind that this has to appeal to an audience of normies. Some ideas I had: >Hierarchical structures are natural products of an unequal society Need a few more red-pills before I can use that one.
> “From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs” requires a government to define ‘what an individual requires A pretty good one I reckon, a lot of people will have heard of this phrase and since it’s from Karl Marx himself, critics will have a hard time claiming that this doesn’t demonstrate the flawed nature of communism.
>Socialism doesn’t solve the problem of motivation, what incentive is there for a man to want to more work than is necessary. I’m not sure I know enough about socialism and human nature to confidently state this
The most important things for this poster are that it is short, persuasive and on a level that a normal person will understand. I’ll post the finished poster when I’m done for other aussies to use, I’m sure other universities have the same posters up.
Plaster up a bunch of Venezuelan flags over the top of them with the caption "Socialism worked for them".
Joseph White
just tear down their posters, I do. It eats up their resources. Just put the australian flag around, that will piss them off and you can't get labelled as an extremist.
Jaxson Lee
That's pretty funny, but that leaves me open to the 'not REAL socialism' retort.
Logan Jones
Melbourne Uni?
Ian Hall
the best argument against socialism is socialist, and communist countries.
Ian Wilson
Nope mate, I'm in Canberra.
Bentley Adams
You think I should just make a list with some history and background? That might be good.
Caleb Rivera
One of the UN conventions (civil and political rights, I believe) requires protection of the right to private property. You can quote this, and under it "socialism violates human rights".
They can only attack it by arguing that human rights is an invention. An argument which comes back to bite them.
If you want to be snarky, you can add "socialists will respond that human rights are arbitrary, which is also the ideologys history". This makes you seem more edgy.
Eli Powell
This is what I'm planning to make. The socialism posters are A3, I'll be printing on A4.
William Gomez
I see a few issues with your reasoning here. > “From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs” requires a government to define ‘what an individual requires The government already defines many other things, such as how much an individual deserves to be taxed, or how many freedoms they deserve. One more thing doesn't add much more burden.
>Hierarchical structures are natural products of an unequal society Socialism seeks to remove inequality in societies, so this argument is some strange, Although I think I read it wrong.
>Socialism doesn’t solve the problem of motivation, what incentive is there for a man to want to more work than is necessary. Socialism will provide everything people need to live, such as food, water shelter and healthcare. If people want any luxuries they will have to work for it and earn currency/labour vouchers.
Interesting ideas, but they need more work.
Carson Hill
This is better than what I was thinking. I was just going to plaster Pepe stickers over them.
Christopher Ross
Gommunizts claim there is a distinction between 'private property' and 'personal property'. Interesting idea though, I didn't know that about the UN conventions.
Bentley Edwards
Stahp. Stahp trying to convince anyone of anything. Get good grades and get the fuck out of uni.
If you identify a fellow shitlord, say "that sounds like something you'd read on Sup Forums" and leave it at that.
Hunter Taylor
For a government to determine need, they have make a judgement on what the individual values. This is quite a few steps further than setting a tax rate.
Aiden Hall
They cannot be reasoned nor communicated with on a logical or factual level. They no nothing of socialism and merely use these events as opportunities to pat themselves on the back as they try to convince themselves that their failures in life are attributed to everyone else, not them.
Much like any other SJW ideology or belief, it is one grounded in raw emotion. While I commend your effort to at least attempt to provide them an insight as to why their cause is fundamentally flawed (as well as them simply biting the hands that feed them), it is a futile effort. Your actions will simply reinforce their primitive mindsets that "white people ruin everything omg he RAPED my mind with that poster with words that offended me".
I dream of the day when people like this can truly bask in a shithole country where every freedom and liberty taken for granted is stripped away at them and their romanticized vision of a socialist utopia is nothing more than a long line to grab stale bread.
Mason Jackson
What am I supposed to do? Societies crumble when good men do nothing. I feel I have an obligation to stop these people from indoctrinating the normies.
Liam Peterson
You'll also be living in it, my dude. Or if you aren't living in it, your friends will be. Or your aging parents. Being smug and saying 'I told you so' isn't worth that much.
Zachary Turner
if I had money, I'd print out a bunch of stickers with skulls on it and the death counts under communist/socialist nations
everytime you find one of these stickers or posters, stick your skull on top
that is all that is neccesary
but the left really is a lot better organised why don't we just attack the root of this stupidity? socialist alternative and SEP, they keep putting these dumb posters up while I tear them down
Jackson Green
nobody will understand what you mean user...
besides, you're gonna waste all that ink?? and what if your printer gives you away?
it's not to unconvince lefties, it's to sway people who don't know any better, still have some reasoning ability and may get tricked into following this nonsense because it's trendy
Asher Carter
I wasn't planning on going nuts with it. I was going to simply state the (well traveled) criticisms of socialism. That poster above was just a place holder. Besides, I'm not sure that we have an antifa presence in AUS.
Camden Flores
While I see your point, figuring out how much food and water they need is quite simple. Just measure several parts of their body and you can easily get an idea on how many nutrients they need to survive/get enough energy to work. This can be done every 3 months or so to redetermine their needed intake.
Obviously you would need to reevaluate this in the case of a disorder, but it would generally work out.
And shelter is a non-issue, since you would get an apartment the size of a large dorm provided for you, and if you wanted bigger you would have to work for it.
John Ward
it would be better to report socialist alternative and SEP to the police and councils for political graffiti
let them lose money wasting pink ink
Blake Williams
Read up on "folk libertarianism" to see why your plan is useless. Then read Moldbug.
Jace Gutierrez
Are you really claiming this as a solution? The majority of the population of socialist republic of Kekistan has their measurements taken by the state to be able to determine how much food they need?
You describe a system where one has to earn their independence from the state, basically. People will reject your authoritarianism immediately.
>doesn't understand the difference between NatSoc and Global Socialism >while NatSoc works as an ideology under the roof of every functional White household >is alright with Global Socialism used as a financial tool to take monies out of his treasury to give to new voters who will vote according to plantation rules >hears the term 'Socialism' and chimps out: "How dare rayyciss White people take care of their own without putting niggers, sand niggers, coal burners, and the oligarchs first!" >can't even grasp the concept of 'Civic Nationalism' much less taking care of his own White brethren while bitching to the planet that he is not a cuck'd faggot giving his treasures to a nigger in the Serengeti who pumps out kangletz like her vagina is a clown car so that they can "look for a better life" in his hometown
I've seen one poster advocating violence against so called 'fascists'
and because there's so many leftist anti-trump anti-conservative sympathisers, their ranks may grow in this warped culture against whatever they see as sexist, racist, phobic, blah blah
Anthony White
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Owen Cook
second post best post. Also put bruce where you ripped down the commie posters
Cooper Morales
you can't argue with them, they don't even understand what they are supporting in the first place.
The best thing you could do is put little stickers of the kekistan flag around and trigger them.
If you want to find out arguments why they are wrong go and listen/read Milton Friedman or something like that .
Gabriel Flores
I study engineering at UTS, and I agree with you OP.
I wrote KEK on one of those in Parramatta the other day.
Logan Evans
They don't have to earn their independence from the state, they work to make their lives better. Where did you get that idea?
Asher Johnson
>Trump era >guest speaker from the U.S. Get off America's dick you filthy aussies
Luis Ward
a slightly modified image would work. then replace it with the other images,the people who put them on won't notice the difference unless they will try to read it and while the curious people who never seen it before will look at it closely and get red-pilled
Ian Cook
not bad for a swedecuck.
Camden Campbell
They're at my Uni too, I rip down posters and deliberately give any transexual I see a subtle 'who the fuck do you think you're kidding' look. Don't try any kind of activism, that's a fight you can't win, these cunts don't sleep. All of the AIDS in their blood gives them super-obnoxiousness powers. If it makes you feel better I haven't noticed any of these types in any of my real (law) subjects. They're only wasting time and money on meme-degrees. They're the human resources and social awareness officers of the future.
>they don't even understand what they are supporting in the first place This, Socialist Alternative are too retarded to be called 'useful idiots'. If anything they're turning normalfaggots off.
Adam Reyes
here you go user
Ayden Nguyen
>I was going to simply state the (well traveled) criticisms of socialism
I think it's better to post a bunch of youtube links and QR codes to the best arguments against socialism, maybe some molyneaux videos
don't waste too much ink, all we need is to deface/turn their propaganda against them while giving regular people access to info that debunks it and signalling to SA/SEP that not everyone agrees with their utopian ideas
I doubt anyone will stand there and read an essay, and tearing out parts of the essay make it unreadable but would also destroy their own poster
Lincoln Ortiz
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Jaxson Mitchell
i say we raid socialismsydney.com
Camden Mitchell
why are you concerned about Aussie's wanting national interests first before Kerpal and Pajeet?
is it wrong for Aussie's to want a home where Aussie's can be Aussie's without anyone making them feel like rayyciss, pseudo-Texans, that can take care of their own shit without asking for government assistance. Aussie's, like their S. African brothers were dumped onto a prison island and left to fend for themselves; and guess what: as Whitey does, the Aussies created a another economic power house so tempting that the fucking china gooks want a piece of the action
Reassess your priorities homegoy
Christian Foster
I tore some of these posters down in brunswick this morning as i skated past. May the blessings of kek be upon you brother.
Cameron Taylor
Explain to them about the jews.
Daniel Hall
improved version.
Kevin Evans
OP for pure triggering you can cover their posters with pepe helicopter memes. For pure retorts, try the Austrian school of economics Hayek, Mises, Murray Rothbard
Eli Ward
Just do memes. No one is going to be bothered reading a dissertation on why socialism is shit, even if all your points are spot on.
Henry Martin
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Austin Harris
How cucked of a country. Literally your biggest worry is some other country's president thousands of miles away. Ruin your own country with communism kangaroofags
Bentley Diaz
:^)
Noah Turner
socialism is the opposition of freedom
William Howard
read you faggot your life is worth reading at least one book
Aaron Harris
Just go to uni, do your classes and get the fuck out of there.
98% of students ignore these losers and the 2% that don't are lost causes anyway. You're not gonna save the world by getting dragged down to their level
Logan Turner
this
Blake Diaz
shit, i saw this shit all over the university of Queensland
Thomas Lee
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Matthew Rodriguez
is it truly wrong to say this? Aussie's were the refuse of the Anglo Oligarchs, yet they created a powerhouse economy. Australia is in the top 10 economies of the world.
Understand homegoys; this isn't about kissing Aussie ass. this is about giving credit where it is due. no one; globally, gets the attention of China unless they are doing something White.
Ayden Green
whats the best way we can piss off everyone who goes to this socialism conference?
tell them to go to north korea?
Jose Anderson
should have put it over the main part of the poster with glue so it can't be removed, then the poster can't be reused
Hudson Johnson
spread James Damore's google memo around. A whole bunch of scientists have come out and says his science is bang on.
plus it uses all the necessary qualifies and has a very reasonable tone. anyone who disagrees with it is clearly ignorant or in bad faith.
Christopher Hall
Put up posters for socialist private property collection points.
Isaiah Martinez
You have to examine the American so-called "alt-right" movement to figure out how to fight them.
Julian Carter
Get a job in a steel works or on the barangaroo project if you're worried about this so much
Nathaniel Reed
Those are likely complete fabrications or due entirely to welfare doled out from selling oil (do socialists even have money?).
To pretend socialism is a viable economic model you would have to be one of the dumbest people in the world.
Ryder Evans
your last point is good but i think your first two are flawed. >Hierarchical structures are natural products of an unequal society pretty sure thats what they don't like about hierarchial structures > “From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs” requires a government to define ‘what an individual requires it states in the maxim that it's 'according to his needs' meaning that it is up to the individual to define his needs rather than a government. good luck friendo.
i'd go with arguments like 'the proletariat is incapable of organising themselves or the means of production, thus a hierarchical state is an inevitability leading to the same problem you had to begin with, wherein the power is in the hands of the few not the many which will ultimately lead to corruption'.
Also, 'a socialist state is incapable of efficiently providing for the people as no amount of bureaucracy is able to determine the necessary supply of things without free market supply and demand principles'.
good luck my dude, hope you're able to change a few minds. maybe read some books to strengthen your knowledge before you go.
Nathaniel Lee
I rip them down whenever I see them
Tyler Perez
Enjoy your first day here, don't forget to buy a gold pass
Nathan Ortiz
Godspeed, user
Carter Bennett
Yeah I reckon you're right about the reading part, I'm not sure understand all the necessary implications of the "means of production for the proles" stuff.
But come on man. Learning at university?
Benjamin Thompson
wow my dude those are such up to date graphs and totally not before the inevitable failure of venezuela wow my dude capital flight causing venezuela to be almost entirely dependent on oil and the government spending all their surplus money on frivolous shit to be able to compete with regular markets totally isn't the fault of socialism at all. it's almost like socialism works until you run out of other people's money or something
Justin Rivera
I'm unsure about how I'm going to go about it. Some user said paste Bruce over their posters, we know that humor is the way to get people to your side. I'm thinking about a reasoned argument on one, and maybe a meme on the other.
Jason Ross
"Socialism = equality of outcome" stickers. Stick it everywhere. There is nothing else. That is the core. Its equality of outcome. Free people are never equal and equal are never free. God speed user!
Jacob Ross
Why don't you put up a poster comparing socialist ideal economic policies to Nazi Germany's economic policies? At worst, normies realize Hitler did something right and you piss off every commie on campus, and at best, normies are inspired to do some more research on the subject.
Cooper Powell
Social democratic welfare state is justice to the regular people. NatSoc comes close second.
Asher Jackson
The main insanity that they don't really grasp, is that what they WANT is for wealth and power to become more diffuse, but the avenue they want to take is for that power to be handed to their government. Literally moronic. They simply don't grasp the fundamental paradox that taking liberty away from people does not increase the liberty people fucking have.
That would be the core of my argument, but I wouldn't know how to distill it into something quotable.
Lucas Johnson
See, I am employed by the university. Probably can't do that.
John Cooper
Join all the faggy SJW groups and become a walking caricature. Repulse White people daily. Be the worst tranny ever. Do shit they will tell their grandkids about.
Jonathan Sanchez
You need a professional stamp that you can add far-left extremist ideas to the poster so that it looks like it is an official talking point of their meetings.
Something like: - and "The Destruction of Whiteness" - After whites have been replaced, then what? - Should whites be discouraged from having children
Luke Ward
i love going to the socialist booth at rmit open day and trolling them irl
Josiah Walker
Your countrymen discuss politics and economics with separate nations leader in mind How are you not cucked little faggots again?
Isaiah Evans
>"When I was a girl, a student at my university had an artificial penis grafted to the side of his arm. It was quite a sight to behold!"
>"They're called biceptuals grandma, and it's a legitimate orientation. Bigot."
Anthony Morales
skate and destroy socialists
Anthony Gomez
ANU? I swear these posters are all over canberra
Ayden Green
"not real socialism" >Socialism was elected for an economic managerial policy and a motive for election >Socialism was promised and faltered alike to every other time it was >Now the streets run rampant because of incompetence to even return to Capitalism (see; oil market fallacy, "but muh US and Arabic oil market flood!" >Various articles chronicling the success of Venezuela by using external funding from Socialism >Venezuela is State Capitalism but incidentally socialist-democratic countries are socialist
Just use any of these and tell them as to why Socialism is just taking advantage of a dream. Living in Melbourne, I hate these cunts with a burning passion because they can't think past some bearded hack who failed law school, tainted German idealism and anything Rationalist, Kant or Objectivist, and comes from an era where even their philosophies on capital generation are outdated.
Jace Campbell
Socialism is reponsible for the oppression and murder of hundreds of millions during the 20 the century. It has reduced whole populations to slaves of the Communist/socialist Party and uses genocide as a tool to break the will of the people
For some examples read Russia's War by Overy
Jonathan Thompson
REEEE YOU TAXPAYERS ARE NOT GIVING ME ENOUGH FREE MONEYYYYY
Landon Davis
it's possible to get them banned, just report them to your campus security for posting flyers where they are not supposed to be
Bentley Williams
here's a candidate
Leo Murphy
nice
>captcha: select all the helicopters
Chase Hall
I'm almost done with the poster, but I need some help with an example of a socialist system that has failed to provide citizens with what they need (e.g. food, water, medical care). What would be better, USSR or mao china?
I am of Czech heritage. Ask me and my grandparents how great 'real' socialism was back in the 1960s
Grayson Powell
I thought it was just Sydney and Melbourne we had to McNuke(TM). I am disappointed.
Benjamin Robinson
Fuck you commies are retarded. Measure every 3 months. "Comrade, a starving body requires less food than a well fed one, time to reduce your rice and bean ration to 1 cup a day. To each according to his need, right comrade?"
Asher Sanchez
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Adrian Jenkins
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Michael Walker
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Colton Wright
>Socialism seeks to remove inequality in societies, so this argument is some strange, Although I think I read it wrong.
There are two people born.
What is a retard with down syndrome and is born a quadriplegic.
