Be me

>be me
>24
>two year IT degree
>going for Comm degree now


Do you guys think this is a reasonable combination? I would've gone Comp Sci but it would be more years towards getting a Bach degree. So I just decided to go this route and be done with it quickly and move on. However, I'm just worried that I'll have a tough time trying to find a full time job once I'm officially done due to lack of related work experience.

I was thinking about doing some sort of trade like Machine Tool Technology but now it's too late...

I hope I'm going down the right path.

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Communications degrees are nigger-tier degree right alongside Gender Studies, Race studies, and sociology. Completely useless.

Why are you asking /pol? Why not /g or /sci? Or better yet, Reddit. Yes, Reddit has a lot of IT professionals. Sup Forums has neckbeards. Despite the memes.

What does that even mean? You need to explain you're reasoning more...

Can't you go into PR / Advertising related work with Comm?

> race studies
Lmao that exists?

I'm not even sure if I should pursue IT work because I feel like my low-average IQ will become a problem.

I'm going to get an associates degree in wind turbine maintenance next month. The field looks pretty open, so I kind of want to take a couple years and work in a few different places before I get too comfortable anywhere.

Is there any reason I shouldn't just spring for an old camper trailer and do a shitty gypsy thing for a while? It seems a lot more practical than debating leases and worrying about deposits and shit.

Communications degrees are what football players get instead of real degrees.

That's outdated. These days Communications is getting ever more competitive. It's more about social media management and brand creation. It's basically 21st century marketing, and as analytics get ever more figured out, microtargeting will be the real future of Communications. If you have something of a background in CS, analytics will probably be easier for you to figure out.

I'm a software engineer, I make 95k/yr with no degree.

It and programming is one of the few fields you can do that.

All you need is verifiable working experience. And all you need to do to get that is just start working.


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That sounds like a lot of fun man, good luck. You're going to have a hard time managing resources, specifically power, fuel, and water/waste. Spring for that unlimited Verizon data plan and get yourself a top of the line smartphone. Thank me later.

You're most likely not going down the right path.

First get your bachelors in computer science, then get your masters in communications.

I'm already committed to the Comm route

Plus, I don't think I have what it takes to do Comp Sci...low iq sucks

PR and Adertising are both full blown SJW nearly everywhere. I'm sure that diversity hires are pretty common in that field too, since if you're absolutely incompetent it can't do too much harm to the company.

what fucking choice do I have here dude

gimme some fucking options if you know of any

Never looked into communications man. Your IT degree isn't enough to find work with? Also yea ask a place like reddit, they could have lots of anecdotal information to give you some ideas

OP, don't do IT. Newer tech like VDI and so on, will kill many lower tier jobs.

After 2008, companies have downgraded greatly. Once there were departments for website admin, server admins, apps dev, VOIP, etc. They were high paying jobs. They were all eliminated.

Today, you will be hired as Tier 1 Helpdesk, but will have to manage ALL the responsibilities of those former high-pay departments while being paid a Helpdesk salary. Don't do it.

If you like tech, get into robotics. Otherwise run away.

I hold two degrees and haven't benefited from either in a substantial way. After I relocated, I couldn't find a good paying IT job. And I will not do server admin, web dev/admin, VOIP, infrastructure, security, apps while being paid $12-$15hr with a Helpdesk title.

I started my own business and I do fairly well as a contractor. I only wish that I took a few more Business Management electives in college.

It's too late for me, but you still have a chance to go a different direction.

Another thing, (((certs))) are a scam. Nobody cares if you have a CCNA or not. Now (((they))) are convincing companies that IT needs certs for running cable. Fucking cable!

Get into Medical or Physical Therapy. It's growing, there's not enough professionals and it will only grow more as Boomers get older.

Wind turbine maintenance is the job expected to grow the most at the BLS. I would suggest any of you NEETS who want to change your life get out there and do that or physical therapy assistant.

Dean Harris?

how am I suppose to go into the medical field?

plus that would be really great to tell my parents who are paying for my education that i'll be abandoning my IT degree and switching my major yet again

>As Baby Boomers retire, the shortage of mainframe professionals grows more acute

>People who started their careers when the mainframe was king are retiring in droves, yet this computing platform is still vital to many businesses

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Get trained on mainframes. It may not sound as sexy as "Full Stack Developer" or "UX/UI Designer", but you'll be in demand and it's something Pajeet can't do because Pajeet isn't being trained to work with mainframes.

Electrical and electronic engineering. It will open up your path to virtually all STEM-related work.

Thanks man, most of the advice I find is for middle aged vacationers or young van hobos, there's not much for professionals who just want to live open.

I'm considering also doing some training for natural gas work, since that seems about as useful at this stage. Maybe in the long run there's a more stable office job for energy work if I manage to trick a woman into marrying me.

You tell them that you've been researching the job market and that you'd rather do the smart and practical thing than throw good money after bad. Show them employment and income figures to make it clear that you're taking this whole thing seriously.

Trust me, I spent three years working on a history degree before I finally accepted that the only careers in it were academic, and I could barely stand school in the first place.

IT professional here. The job market is a mess. People are coming out of college with no real world experience so they give you entry level pay for ridiculous loads of work. You'll be running around doing service contracts for 100 different companies under a tech monolith that pays you in peanuts. I used to make $16 bucks an hour asked for a $18 raise because I'm doing warehouse management along with my network engineer duties and they laughed in my face (literally). Luckily had a connection and landed a school district tech job for $24. Best advice is to work connections find a way out of the bullshit get a state job or start your own company. Certs and degrees will not get you far sadly. It's all about who you know.

as someone who started his career in mainframes and moved into startups I can tell you that you're incorrect on a variety of reasons.

first, the only people left being trained on zOS or ISPF are pajeets.
second, It is very difficult to find a job as a mainframe programmer. most of these shops are unwilling to hire junior/associate level talent because there is very little for junior or associate level engineers to do on systems that have been built and modified for the past 40 years. Couple this with the enormous ramp-up time to become proficient in these systems - it's almost impossible to break in save for working someone like CA or IBM directly.
third, mainframe companies refuse to pay market worth to engineers given their shortage of talent. I literally doubled my pay by switching from working in HLASM at a major multinational to RoR at a scrappy startup.

what about switching over to a Public Health degree?

It's not my field, so I really couldn't say for sure. All I know is the medical industry is an absolutely massive part of the national economy and it's only going to get bigger. There's a mountain of research on what majors and jobs are the most useful, and it's something you should spend as much time determining as possible. This is your life's work we're talking about, and that's not something you should trust to Sup Forums.

>he says after he asked Sup Forums if he should live in a trailer for a while

We're gonna make it, bro.

>asked for a $18 raise because I'm doing warehouse management along with my network engineer duties and they laughed in my face
I would too if someone who just thought more assignments equals greater pay demanded more money.

>switching from IT to Communications
Are you literally retarded? HR/PR/Advertising/Recruitment/etc are the shittiest fields to work in, you literally need 0 qualifications to be involved in them. You're pissing your education away for a meme degree that will land you working with actual subhuman retards.

>t. someone who has worked in PR
Yes, it was pioneered in the 30's.

What in the ever loving fuck is going on, I have a bachelors in Info Systems, almost went into business with my capstone project. I have 3 years experience working I.T., a Security+ cert, and working on CCNA. I'm skilled a hell with Linux.

Have datacenter experience, sysadmin experience, etc. And I cannot find a fuckng job.

I dunno what it is, its just rejection after rejection. Like, if I'm this terrible, why even invite me in for an interview?

Fuck me. What the fuck is going on.

>3 years
That's a sort time to be working. Its a major red flag for anyone looking into hiring you

I'm in the same situation with a BS in compsci except I have basically no professional experience. I apply to entry-level jobs but I get rejected from fucking everything

Communication is for females and for them kinda useful for the corporate world. It's great is your a hottie who wants to have a career path to be a middle level manager/glorified secretary

I have a gf with a communications degree and she hasn't figured how to extend the wifi signal in her house into her bedroom. But she's good at working hard and mciromanaging the cleaning staff etc at her work

Short? 3 years for the same employer is an eternity in I.T.

H.R. can suck our dicks, user. THey're too stupid to handle anything else.

and blue pilled af. Its not like they discuss a chart of IQ and race

There's always 35 and 25 series slots open.

Comp science degree is a meme. Make sure if you do go into it and programming that you create a good portfolio otherwise your fucked thanks to Pajeet.

>but I get rejected from fucking everything
What's your GPA? what kind of projects did you work on in school? did you take advantage of any activities hosted outside of school that would allow you to make connections with your peers?

You have to do more than sit In a class room and repeat what your professor is telling you if you want to get hired and if you are just sitting on your ass you better make sure you have a 4.0 gpa

COmp sci is a meme, IT is a meme, goddamn it what isn't a meme nowadays? Has anyone figured out what a fucking white male can do to make a good income? It's like there are zero legit opportunities out there, I've been on more bullshit "we've already got some immigrant picked out for this job but regulations say we have to interview you anyway" interviews in the last 3 months than in my entire previous life.

So, the parents are ok to pay for your college for a $12-$15hr job while being responsible for all the IT jobs that made $80K per year for each title?

I got my first degree while in the military, after I got out, I got my second degree with my GI Bill. Didn't need anyone's permission. You do understand once your parents die, you're still stuck with a shit career?

Be me, just finished BS in Network Engineering. Go to a staff meeting, representing the IT Department and the smartest person in the room. Give your advice when asked. Get told that you are "just a computer janitor" and then ignored.

Nobody will respect you, they all treat IT workers as the lawn keeper and even by the people whos job is to make coffee.

The only redeeming thing about IT is nobody knows what you do, where you are, or cares to know. I was living the first episode of "The IT Crowd" for real. I even had a "Jen" at the end before I moved away.

Get into robotics/automation if you must stay in tech or find something else.

>is an eternity in I.T.
Don't know where you heard that lie but whoever told you that was retarded.

IT computer whiz genius is a meme. It's like any other trade. If the guy in the pic managed to get a comp sci degree and a job at IT company you really need to ask yourself.

Fuck Comm. Suck it up and go Comp Sci. You won't regret it.

My GPA was a 2.82 upon graduation. Not setting the world on fire but also far from the worst in my graduating class.

>COmp sci is a meme,
Just because you're bad at something doesn't make it a meme.

Yeah but I can't keep switching majors all the time...fuck I'm already 24 dude!

Meanwhile, my sister is just starting at an expensive private college in the fall and my brother still has a year left.

Right now, my parents are making me payback 25,000 and the sound of that just makes me die inside.

the fuck you ask Sup Forums

You passed with a c which is still pretty bad. Unless you have some projects under your belt or connections you're going to have a hard time finding work. What you should have done is internship to gain some experience before you graduated

I didn't do comp sci

Don't listen to theses other niggers OP, theyre obviously just failed people. CS is still where it's at. Ideally with electives in fields such as cybernetics, robotics, machine learning or DSP (serious money in DSP atm)

>IT

The only way forward here is a network and systems engineering degree. everything else is a downgrade.

Is it worth it to learn Python as a first language?

It's about average. Literally no one had a 4.0 graduating in compsci. The highest GPA was like a 3.8. Lots of people were hovering around a 3.0 or slightly below.

You can either repay them 20k and make 35k a year, or you can repay them 30k and make 80k a year.

I know it sucks, man. They ask 18 year old idiots to choose a path they'll want to do for another 50 years, and for guys who didn't have a clear path in high school, that choice is basically flipping a coin between falling into something worthwhile or majoring in architecture. I didn't wake up to that reality until I was 22, and it was a pretty drastic course correction from microfiche newspaper research to carbon fiber fan blade calibration. But one of these days you'll need to start working, and you want a career you can be proud of for your kids. At least your loan broker is your parents and not the state.

There's always the military, if you need four years to do something worthwhile and add to your resume.

because /adv/ is basically relationship-only

And it isn't a c average. My university did the +, - grading scale so my average was slightly better than a B-. Not great but not terrible either.

>23 graduated this summer
>economics, emphasis finance/business
>ran 3 small companies that targeted students and foreigners (essay writing, software solutions, business writing)
>own a Drunk driving prevention company that acts as a local advertising source in a big beach city in California
>was COO of a small tech firm until the CEO tried to fraud everyone because he had weak hands, I whistleblew to the VP and biggest investors, we all pulled out, suing for rights to company for wrongful divestment (piercing the corporate veil) so I can sell it for shy of $500k in a few years

I have interviews with KPMG, gas company, Grant Thorton, Deloitte, Coldwell Banker, and Berkshire (i really want to avoid real estate though.

should a redpilled conservative ciswhiteman expecting to marry in 2 years be looking at a biz operations or management consultant position at say KPMG?

shooting for 70-80k starting so I can GTFO of California with enough cash to raise ranch family

You could always drop out of college at 19, become an operating engineer in NYC and make 220k a year by the time your 22. (Me) that's with 25hours OT a week. But I mostly play PUBG and league of legends at work so no harm no foul.

>It's about average
There lies the problem. IF you're average then you're not offering anything they can't find somewhere else or something they didn't get in the first couple of applications.

No, communications is more of a linguistics degree now. Basically everone sucks Chompskys dick. Marketing and advertising degrees exist for a reason. All of the above degrees are meme teir.

It sounds like you want to get into being the face of a tech department or a tech company.
If I were you, try to go into business infornation systems management. This seems like where you want to go. For real yuppie points, go for an MBA after your done. From my experience, an MBA is trash, but upper administrators circle jerk over them.

IT manager here.

Job experience is more important than a degree. Get an entry level IT position NOW and start building your resume. Take a 6 week certification program if you need to.

A 4 year degree is required for management positions, but it literally does not matter what the degree is in, we just put a check mark next to 'has a bachelors degree'.

>go into thread of young men who can't find work and can't choose degrees
>tell them how many plates you have spinning and ask which of two lucrative careers to choose

Nigger, give advice, don't ask for it.

>be me
>24
>two year lurk degree
>going for thread now


Do you guys think this is a reasonable combination? I would've gone full shitpost but it would be more years towards getting a subversive juden degree. So I just decided to go this route and be done with it quickly and move on. However, I'm just worried that I'll have a tough time trying to find a "he does it for free" job once I'm officially done due to lack of dickbutt work experience.

I was thinking about doing some sort of trade like Machine Tool Technology but now it's too late...

I hope I'm going down the right path.

I just don't know what to do and that feeling sucks. Like for instance the only other majors that seem slightly interesting are: Psychology, History, Philosophy, and Public Health.

And no I'll be paying the state back not my parents...

My brother graduated with a bach in CompSci and now has a pretty impressive resume. He's worked for Barnes and Nobel, Time, and now currently at American Express. You're gonna have to bust your ass and really suffer doing internships to get your experience up. Years experience can be cut down though if you can showcase impressive projects you've done.

learn by example paco

i used to study computer science...you all need to turn to ventures and outsource your own work to pajeet teams and sell your services to small businesses. stop trying to go corporate. beat the competition at their own game.

not being an entrepreneur/manager is for foreigners...you all see the exploitation...there should be a redflag going up in your minds about potential opportunity. half of the people in this thread have mom and dad money. I put in my work by having my losses early and graduating while living out of a honda accord for 6 months

Both of those degrees are worthless. If you're not getting a bachelors in comp sci, engineering, or networking, there is no reason to get some discount IT degree, homeschooling is just as valuable. And a communications degree is literally worthless, it's like getting a degree in general studies.

>Psychology, History, Philosophy

As I wish my guidance counselor had told me, those are interesting hobbies, not careers. Take them as gen ed classes if you're curious, but interesting subjects don't translate into fulfilling careers. I have too many friends who followed their passion and ended up working for peanuts in second-rate museums or installing satellite TVs.

If you're too dumb to choose a major, you're probably too dumb to make a career as a philosopher. They should print that on high school diplomas.

Yes. The rise of AWS lambda has meant it's in more demand too. Java is also a good choice.

A BA or BS in communications is a totally worthless degree. Don't waste your time, and most importantly don't waste your money.

Just get a job with your IT degree. If you can't, then try to figure out what kind of further training is available to you that will enable you to get a good kind of job. Get that degree.

This. I'm a dev mgr, I'll take a proven developer with a track record over a degree any day. Some of my best guys started as self taught hobbyists.

Lots of places in my city are asking for experience in java now. Its not a bad choice to start of with

You just listed areas with even less job opportunities. WTF?

You sound like you need to buy some time. Why not join the military and earn the GI Bill? You can just go Air Force. They're military (but not really) and civilians and employers will see you're a "veteran" (but not really).

Except, by the time he finishes school for that niche, employers will be looking for something else.

Get a couple years of enterprise Java experience and your LinkedIn inbox will explode with recruiters hounding you with $80-120k+ opportunities.