Operation Unthinkable

Why did we not go through with this? So many conflicts after WWII would never have happened.

Cuz everyone would be dead after that, u stupid idiot.

The Soviet Union would have won

Not like the commies had nukes.

well if we wanted to win ww2 we would have did it

you are fake news

Because we lost WW2.

we had nukes, they didn't
how do they win in that scenario?

>Wanting world wide American democracy and capitalism™

Because then your (((jews))) would not have the perfect enemy to keep you in line with fear tactics.

>anglokikes still in power
So many conflicts still would have happened. Nice try though, Schlomo.

That comic strip shows the maximum rational capacity of a communist indeed.

>LOL NUKE NUKE NUKE
America stop

Not an argument lol

>Soviets prepare for massive push >"Sir we spotted a Capitalist Bomber over head" >"Let them pass user" >Boom... >Soviets incinerated by the milions

Even if the planes could pass throught miles of ant air battery and reach moskow (which is highly unlikely) it wouldn't have much effect.

West Germany would be overrrun and swept clean from the allied forces.

You had some shitty early nukes and they had enough manpower mobilized to invade all of Europe.

>Operation Unthinkable
More like "Operation Barbarossa 2: how many times are you gonna step on that rake?"

Seriously though, this shit happens EVERY SINGLE FUCKING time. Some asshole general with delusions of grandeur thinks he can quickly win a massive invasion, tries it, and then pretends it wasnt his fault when shit goes wrong and a "quick and easy war" turns into a bloody slog.

if that happened and the west won, eastern europe would be full of niggers and muslims like france and sweden

the main reason they aren't today is because they were behind the iron curtain while the west was busy cucking itself

FDR was a commie agent.

t. Ol' Boomer

Because (((America))) wasn't willing to back Churchill up with their nukes, and France was still in ruins. There was simply not enough support.

The psycological affect of atomic weapons would be a great factor in the war.

USSR was ramping up their military at that time. Facing an army armed with T-54s and AK-47s and other new equipment wouldn't have gone well.

Why are American so uneducated

nice thumbnail

A good strategy would have been the far superior American airforce in cognition with the army the soviets would have a hard time trying to swarm the US with tanks if they could not make any

Stalingrad was more intense than the entire pacific front. German bombing campaign against it might as well have been a nuke. We'd have rolled you nukes or no nukes. There's a reason it was called operation unthinkable. Churchill was larping.

How? To put it in terms you'd understand "we would fight in the shade"

The problem is that the war has not been waged in concentrated pitched battles for like 100 years by then.

Strategic bombers of that time couldnt reach the industrial and logistics centers of USSR; and targeting armies would require massive quantities of nukes and cause huge collateral and friendlt damage, because said armies were extremely spread out and mobile.

Do you know why its called the ak47?

Everyone was tired of war. The Americans were feed a steady diet of the Russians are now our friends for 4 years. Because of this no casus belli could be created without the Russians attacking.
That being said the Russians were spent. They had numbers but their logistic situation sucked. The land they conquered hated them and would have been a partisan field day. If the war lasted longer than a month the allies would have pushed them back to the original borders. America was still ramping up production of materials. Air superiority would have been achieved in a short time and the already bad logistic situation would have gotten worse.
They had greater numbers of better tanks but the rest of their equipment was lacking. The Pershing tank was more than a match for anything they had and would have been produced in numbers had the war gone on.
It would not be easy but the Russians would have been ground down in Eastern Europe between the polish partisans and the complete shit road situation in Eastern Europe.
That is without nukes.

>general, Americans just did the equivalent of the average week in 1941 worth of damage to us
>well shit we better surrender instead of rolling their puny European presence in a month like we planned.

Amerisharts biologically cannot comprehend the scope of the Eastern front

it could work if we simply exterminated all of the slavs

West would have lost

Anglos are not continental power and never will be, their soldiers are weak, equipment was inferior and tanks were junk.

All former land powers like Sweden, France and Germany were defeated by russia.
Anglos would have lost 4-5 soldiers dead and captured per 1 ussr soldier.

Entire USSR economy was focused on building more tanks and army tech, Soviet military was 10 times stronger than when the war started it was in overdrive. Meanwhile US had puny military presence in Europe and all other countries would capitulate to USSR faster than they did to Germany. While US would be steamrolled and thrown back into the ocean. Just look at what Soviet army did to Japs in Manchuria.
>muh nukes
Nukes are irrelevant if you have shitty means of delivery. To nuke any relevant city in USSR you would need to cover thousands kilometers of its territory unnoticed, which is very unlikely. Also there's no reason to think that nuking Moscow and St. Petersburg would ended the war.
Napoleon and Hitler thought that they would win that way, but its a big mistake. Russians don't give a shit about Moscow and left it to enemies multiple times. You won't win this way.

You had the aid of fleeing german scientists to help make that nuke. In a situation where they stayed in germany, the nuke could well have been made by germans first.

That's what Hitler and the Nazis said and he later blew his brains out

How can you roll into us if we nuke your armies?

We shoulda nuked every fucking city east of Kiev

Tell me more about how Stalingrad got literally irradiated

Because, my dear amerigoy friend, USSR was under the same kikes that run USA.
The only problem was Stalin and they assassinated him.

We wouldn't need to nuke your cities you retarded vodka niggers, just your advancing armies.

Do you even know how tactical nukes work?

atomic bomb of that time had equivalent of 10kt tnt and was inefficient

germans dropped on stalingrad around 1 million bombs with equivalent of 100kt of tnt
this is without effect of artillery which was even bigger

so city had damage same as 20 atomic bombs, this damage was done precisely

Because by the time you get that nuke across the Atlantic you have nowhere to fly it from.

Anemic German children buttfucked burgers in the dying days of the war at battle of the bulge ffs. Stalin had to do the heavy lifting to even make DDay possible and not a slaughter

The damage wasn't all at once nor was there any radiation or fallout, this false equivalence

Remove your meme flag you LARPing retard

>thinks burgers had warehouses full of nukes to drop all over Europe at the push of a button.

You forgot your superman action figure flying in and punching ivans out

You first

10kt atomic bomb of that time has small radiation and fallout, also small blast radius.

it will make 25x smaller damage to wide marching army than enemy artillery

We would have built them at that level had the need arisen yes, we were in full war economy as well

That image is both funny and enraging.

>he thinks radiation would stop them

Look up attack of the dead burger. Your nukes would just keep us warm

Commies are fags. That is my argument.

What are you afraid of?

>we had nukes, they didn't
>how do they win in that scenario?

>you nuke Moscow
>superior soviet land army zerg rushes western europé, conquering everything up to the channel.

Now what? Are you going to liberate the shit out of Paris by nuking it? Did you guys even have any nukes in Europe at that time? Did you even have any tactical nukes to use again massed enemy formations?

The soviet union would have stomped the shit out of the land forces in western europé.

I blame pic related backstabbing cunt for selling out half of Europe,
and waiting far too long to step in at first place

Because it would involve us having to give a shit ton of ground to wear the soviets to the point where we could over power them dry of manpower and supplies. We would have won but it would have meant the death of an entire generation of men.

>murkan armchair generals really belive this shit

amazing

>implying the cultural revolution of the 60s and decolonisation would have happened with no soviet union around

Are all of you just going to completely overlook the fact that the Allies would quickly establish air superiority allowing them to buttfuck Russian supply lines. Sure soviets would be able to keep steam rolling for a little based on sheer mass but there army was a shitshow. Most men didn't have rifles the food they got was from raping and pillaging they would be fought by partisans throughout the continent further fucking supply lines. It would be a matter of time before the American war machine threat fucked them into submission from three fronts.

>drop nukes on zerg
>zerg is kill
Woah that was tough
The Soviets were outgunned by 1945, why are you all so afraid to admit it
>Muh numbers?
Didn't help the Japs one bit

>And Soviets would just be sitting on their dicks in the meanwhile because that makes burger larp comfier

You should probably look up how long it took them to counter all the shit Germans threw at them and when they got their nuke

Jesis fucking Christ. I never thought Sup Forums is so bluepilled on this question.
American kikes prepared and financed boslheviks. American companies helped USSR with industrialization - sold them tech, machinery and equipment. They gave USSR supplies, weaponry in WW2.
You believe USA and USSR were enemies because of Cold War? It's a fucking joke, not a war. They controlled the World with America in one hand and USSR in other. When they decided that it's over for USSR project, they just shut it down quite easily - no need for war.

Remember how the same american army failed to defeat Korea barely five years later.

Unironically compares Soviets to Japs

>you spent 4 years fighting a meme Romania level country and still needed the Soviets to kill off their biggest army

Because Truman the cuck wouldn't let MacArthur use the bomb

By the end of the war pretty much any Russkie plane was better than the American counter part.

Hitler also had better tanks. Then he shat his pants when he knew that the soviets had at least 7.5x more tanks. And pretty much that was their strategy dealing with the germans. Just steamroll them and accept the needed casualties due to the inferior armour and gun range.

For fucks sake. Wrap your head around a number. That country lost 16 million soldiers and they still weren't lacking men to combat.

Russia is big. The never were afraid to put the scorched land tactics to use.

America would have needed a lot bigger and stronger army than they had at the time. And the Brits were exhausted.

the main problem is that anglos cant fight on land, it is true about both UK and USA

if they face land power they suck so hard that they stay away on their ships before the end of the war.

Bismark said ones
"If the British Army landed in Europe, I'd get the Belgian police to arrest them."

just like hitler and his austrian police tried to arrest them in Dunkirk

Exactly what did the Americans not counter? We were equal technologically with the Germans in everything but rocket technology.

*china UN forces made it almost to the Chinese border before the Chinese intervened and had the Cuck American leadership allowed macarthur to use nukes, which they didn't, america would easily have won. But alas Chinese Zerg rush pushed it back to the 38th parallel.

You people have a romanticized vision of nuclear weaponry. Japan was hit by two bombs and didn't surrender until the Soviet Union declared war on them. Its cities suffered worse and the population soldiered on. What broke the camel's back is Japan realizing there was no more hope of extending the war for a better peace deal. If Operation Unthinkable were to happen, the Soviet Union would've had military advantage (outnumbering their enemies 2.5 to 1) and propaganda advantage (not being the ones backstabbing their allies and fighting alongside Nazis).

>Operation Unthinkable
>Why did we not go through with this? So many conflicts after WWII would never have happened.

Because Allies would have lost on continental ground in 1945.
Would have won in the long run, maybe, but it would be WW2 episode 2.

If you had really wanted something like that, you should have stopped delivery of supplies and vehicles to the SU in 1943, instead of giving them stuff up until 1945.
Allied industries enabled the whole Red Army logistical transports side, so SU industries could focus on weapons and armor production.
As a result, western armies were hopelessly outnumbered and outgunned in 1945.

you had inferior tanks
inferior infantry weapon
inferior artillery
inferior generals
inferior soldiers

both to germany and ussr

*china UN forces made it almost to the Chinese border before the Chinese intervened and had the Cuck American leadership allowed macarthur to use nukes, which they didn't, america would easily have won. But alas Chinese Zerg rush pushed it back to the 38th parallel.

There was no ruskie plane as good as the P-51 or F-4U
You're just lying at this point

With what? The slower, less range, slower turning planes?

Check your history muppet.

The Yaks and and the Lavochkins at the end of the war would mince any american plane there was.

becasue you didnt like the idea of every major city in the west getting annihilated in a global nuclear holocaust which would plunge the earth into a mad-max scenario

Retard, Germans started the war in a different fucking era than the Soviets and the Soviets closed the gap in a matter of months. Whatever superiority US had would be neutralized instantly. Compared to Nazi Germany US and British power projection over Europe was fucking nothing.

There was no Infantry weapon as good as M1 Garand at that point
>muh SVT
>muh G43
Jamomatic meme guns

Yeah and they would have no supplies to fuel and arm those troops without big daddy America. They barely had enough even with our help

>The Soviets were outgunned by 1945, why are you all so afraid to admit it
Globally? Yeah, but not in Europe at that time. The western allies had a much better navy and air force but the soviet union had a better army.

What fucking alternate history did you grow up with?
The P51D could fly circles around those turds you just listed

At least every burger agrees that the war would be a race to nuke all Soviet civilian cities before Soviets got within buttfucking distance of the US Army

You should check the Yakovlevs then. And brush up on the history.

One of those would do laps around a 51 with ease and an F4 wouldn't even be a serious match.

A Lavochkin would simple outrun/outclimb/outdive any of those.

You silly indoctrinated American.

Even the later Messerschmitts were far better than the 51. Hitler just wasn't able to put them out in the needed numbers.

>they were in control of the romanian oilfields, the caspian oilfields, the caucasian oilfields and a whole slew of smaller shit
>LMAO DEY HAD NO FUEL LMAO

Never mind they just equipped the largest land army in history and defeated the second largest one with plenty of effort left to spare.

>They barely had enough even with our help
This was in 1941 retard. By 1945 they had developed a strong industry and gathered chinks from all over russkieland to the border. They clearly had land superiority.

SERGEI YOU GET THE CLIP
DMITRY YOU GET THE GUN
GOOD LUCK!

America is also big and already had millions of troops in Europe and supply lines set up to reinforce them, and had barely been bloodied by comparison to other the other powers. The soviets were hugely overextended and depleted and had been relying on american logistics for the whole war.

>Even the later Messerschmitts were far better than the 51.

You can't actually believe this.
Hitler literally had to create the ME 262 because he couldn't compete with our prop fighters

Because it wasn't in ZOG's interest obviously.

This.

Looks like "Soviet education" is still better.
Americans supplied and helped USSR in the fight against the Germans.

Well,ask why the US supported the commies instead of Chang Kai Shek.
The answer is the same

Still fared better against Germans than Amerisharts with all their infinite amenities and logistics

lol

Get in your thick head that the soviet culture never was about refinement but much more about quantity. While you had 10 garands they would have 1000 Nagants.

war in europe was on the land lol

did you have flying tanks or bombers like il-2 or Junkers Ju 87

your tanks would have been pulverised by il-2 m. then your planes and pilots would escape to britain and your soldiers surrender in cauldron.

it was simple riffle, same as soviet or german. riffle is a trench weapon. idk whom you will shoot with it.

more important is that axis or soviet sodliers used Submachine guns a lot, granades and were hardened in combat.

We would have been nuking your cities and your armies at the same time you fake commie

>We'd have rolled you
>We'd
Turn off your meme flag Canada

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Wtf is with this inferior tank meme. On the field, the American tank out performed the German counterpart as a consequence of its light weight and enhanced mobility. The panzers were slow and often easy targets.

Speed kills

>NUHUH

Wtf was the blitz

Where did goalposts go off to?

Delusional commie fags in this thread remember when the soviets invaded Finland?? The T34 is about the best Russian invention of the war in that it was a decent heavy tank that they could mass produce the shit out of but they were still POS that routinely broke. On air superiority don't even try to argue the USAF would kick the shit out of the ruskies no doubt about it. Another thing the Red army was basically a damn militia it was not a well trained professional army like the US was at that point. The only advantage the red army had was the ability to sling peasant armies at the enemy and have them pick up guns from their dead comrades because they couldn't supply them with guns even with US materials. So cringey that you can try to defend "muh ussr" this isn't even an arguement without the nukes.