Count me as one who thinks Special Council Mueller, under the guise of investigating Russia...

>Count me as one who thinks Special Council Mueller, under the guise of investigating Russia, is actually investigating the Clinton and Obama tentacles.
>To drain the swamp, Trump has to permanently separate the Uniparty (R & D’s) from their profiteering schemes, power structures and its global apparatus.
>To do so, requires unwinding the web of financial, corruption, terrorism, and white collar crimes.
>There are wide-scale scheme(s) spanning both political parties, media complex, deep-state, globalists, Democrats, NeoCons, K-street bagmen, career bureaucrats, elected officials, etc., hoping to stop the Trump agenda.
>The bread and butter of the UniParty; the wide-scale influence peddling, voter-fraud, trade deals, cheap-labor and climate schemes, and the DC power apparatus are about to get exposed & dismembered.
>After years of orchestrated deceit, Trump is seeking to systematically remove the entrenched hands that feed the politicians by removing the profiteers, corporate lobbyist, and the bagmen that feed them.
>Trump is going after their pot of gold.

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thenewamerican.com/usnews/foreign-policy/item/26617-mueller-s-role-in-delivering-uranium-to-russians-raises-questions
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>Standards of evidence and proof of guilt of federal crimes require a precise chain of events and actions for which there is reliable evidence that will stand up in federal court, i.e., evidence that will persuade a jury or federal judge and that can withstand cross-examination and the inquiries of experts hired by the defense.
>Ironclad criminal indictments simply take time.
>It is noteworthy, that the Special Counsel Mueller legal veterans and workhorses assembled at face value embody specializations in virtually every aspect of law that might be used against a criminal organization (RICO), though with notably few mentions of anyone specialized in election law or in prosecuting or investigating interactions with foreign governments, with an exception or two.
>In this plot’s final script, we will be witnessing, at a time and place of choosing by Trump, Sessions and Wray, the biggest shit-show on the planet.
>Trump is going to drain the imperial swamp of Washington and Mueller, Sessions and Rosenstein will help him do it.

Be patient, brothers. The Day of the Rope is coming.

klsouth.wordpress.com/2017/08/08/mueller-and-the-pursuit-of-justice/

We can only hope this comes true.

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> influence peddling, voter-fraud, trade deals, cheap-labor and climate schemes
He's really been going balls-out on this hasn't he?

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Could all the Dem donors he stacked his team with be cover for this? Perhaps it appears even more credible this way? Doubtful, but hey.

The Dem donors are on the team because they were involved in the crimes/corruption. WH user said they've been pardoned in exchange for helping to prosecute those at the top.

>Anthony Weiner’s laptop with file “Life Insurance”

LMAO Weiner better stay out of the gym, all those heavy weights and equipment can be very dangerous

Bump

We can throw the Awans into the mix for good measure.

Also from the article:
>Meanwhile, between Mueller and DOJ, there are likely multiple, separate and parallel investigations going on. Rosenstein’s letter authorizes inquiry into matters “arising from” the investigation and any efforts to obstruct justice. The specific arrest charge (loan misrepresentation) to stop Imran Awan from fleeing the country was so swift, it suggests a grand jury was already empaneled. Christopher Wray, now FBI Director, has to figure out which ‘agency superiors’ obstructed investigation(s) by honorable rank and file agents.

EXCELLENT piece, thank you. (Replied before having read it, which was dumb of me.)

>>Count me as one who thinks Special Council Mueller, under the guise of investigating Russia, is actually investigating the Clinton and Obama tentacles.
I don't think this was a plan but this witch hunt may inadvertently make this happen. Muller has been deep state for a while and most of the people that he hired, were recently fire by Trump.

Related to the Clinton plea bargin news you think?

Did you read the article? Have you looked at who he hired? Just connect the dots. The team wouldn't be assembled the way it is if they were investigating Trump. Mueller, against his will, was part of the corrupt Clinton/Obama machine and definitely had to do some shady things. He'd happily trade a pardon in return for burning the whole thing down.

Very likely, which means the announcement may come soon. I thought it would've taken longer. I was surprised to hear about that yesterday.

I dunno, I've been watching a lot of George Webb and Mueller looks as dirty as the rest of them

He *was* dirty. Not anymore.

See:

why is the little guy more important than the big guy?

He isn't, but he has a right to not be fucked by the big guy.

Fact is, Mueller is stacking his team with all these democrats and lawyers that new the DNC/Obama/Clinton/Lynch because they know where the skeletons are. ITS SO OBVIOUS but people knee jerk by seeing so many liberals that they think Trump is doomed when its the other way around.
These smaller fish are helping bring down this crime syndicate because they either were pardoned/protected/offered a way out of the blackmail and corruption.
Everyone knows what happens when you go against the Bush/Clinton crime family. You get 2 bullet suicide to the back of the skull.
NOT ANYMORE.

It still makes me smile how Ben Garrison is unironically /ourguy/ now.

And I mean, sure, that cartoon is not the original but still: the libertarian edits are always 100% on our side too.

>why is the little guy more important than the big guy?
for you

if Hillary had gotten her way there wouldnt be a single leak in all these months.

The meltdown/chimpout when this investigation ends might honestly be better than election night

They are important for multiple reasons.
They are actually the experts, which is why they have been used by dems in past.
Their prior "loyalty" to dems means they are harder to dismiss as biased.
Their prior loyalty as evidenced by donations is likely, in part, survival. They thought dems would be in power...
By hiring them, they are now prohibited from being witnesses for defense.
They also cannot be hired by clintons et al which locks a significant portion of legal expertise away.

All in all...could be a win. Or we could all be fucked. In which case, it never mattered.

>I thought it would've taken longer
You and me both. In my case though, I think it's because I have happening fatigue. We've seen the state of the corruption for months now; Awans, Seth Rich, unmasking, Fusion GPS & their set up of Trump Jr. And there has been such a slow drip drip drip of confirmations of our general thesis that it feels like we'll get through the whole 8 years before Trump is ready to finally bring the hammer down on the cabal.

>>Count me as one who thinks Special Council Mueller, under the guise of investigating Russia, is actually investigating the Clinton and Obama tentacles.

This is one of the dumber posts.

We can see who has been raided by the FBI, who is lawyering up, etc.

>Count me as one who thinks Special Council Mueller, under the guise of investigating Russia, is actually investigating the Clinton and Obama tentacles.


In order to even investigate, Mueller had to be given an official 'decree'. It says right on what he is investigating. Go do some reading.

>After NAFTA is dismantled, Trump will rinse and repeat with the ‘big Pharma’ influence peddlers. Trump is going after their pot of gold.

He can probably round them up when he goes after the organ rat-line

In all fairness, the Dems on Mueller's team already know the crimes committed. It's not like they have to find wrongdoing. They just have to document and compartmentalize all the evidence, which they've been doing since March.

Manafort is probably guilty of some kind of financial crimes unrelated to the election and he's the only person from Trump's campaign staff that's even remotely dirty.

maybe Trump is playing up the NK thing and orchestrating some of the Russian leaks to buy the team a bit more time to really get the facts and an open and shut case.

The Dems thing they're getting him with the Russia stuff but he's really using their own screams and shouts to cover for the case to wrap up.

SO SLEEPY

Taking down big Pharma will be huge. Medical earmarks can finally be repealed and drug prices will fall dramatically. The Republican healthcare bill, that takes away coverage for millions of people, doesn't sound so bad if they don't need it. Most people on Medicare only need it to afford their drugs. If drugs are affordable, they don't need government healthcare. People are still taken care of while the government saves billions of dollars. Policies like this are what creates economic prosperity.

>le mueller is actually investigating Hillary meme

Trump has proven himself to not be capable of actual 4D chess and can't keep his mouth shut about anything. If there was something, we would already have heard it from Trump. Furthermore Trump wouldn't be attempting to throw his people under the bus and try to undermine Mueller's reputation if this were the case. There is a section of congressman like Nunes and Gowdy who pander to their constituents by "investigating" Hillary while producing nothing. Did you know that they spent 60 million dollars looking into Benghazi? Did you know they didn't even spend 1/10th of that on the 9/11 commission. Really makes you think doesn't it? Or wait, it doesn't because you are effectively jew and bluepilled over your bread and circus act of Rep vs Dem.

DEBUNKED

>If drugs are affordable, they don't need government healthcare.

exactly this, the entire obamacare bill was a giant fuck you to the taxpayer, spending whatever was asked and never demanding a price consideration for drugs, even though they were spending billions on them they were paying 10x the counter price at pharmacies in Europe, a total fucking crime engineered to rip off the taxpayer

>quality shilling
>actually kind of refreshing
You aren't taking Trump's strategy into account. He purposely creates chaos in order to screen his true intentions and set traps to be sprung later. Remember when he attacked Sessions and Mueller last week? How many senators and media figures are on camera gushing about how their character is unquestionable now? Don't take Trump's actions or words at face value. Don't follow the shiny object. Look at the bigger picture.

Correct. The medical earmarks are key, though. Big Pharma lobbies politicians to make them more money. Those politicians then pass legislation saying that certain drugs can only be made in a certain state. Without competition, without someone making the same product and selling it at a lower price, drug companies are allowed to sell their product at whatever price they want.

Right. And of course, it makes more sense to have the idiots in the media cheering Mueller on if he really is not a deep state shill so when the switcheroo&indictment happens they'll still have his jizz all over their mouths.

However we still don't have conclusive proof that he's not a deep state shill... so I'm still wary about giving public backing to him.

I'm tired of being proven right in arguments with my normie friends all the time but then seeing them switch gear and pick up a new stupid argument. I just want to get on with the Lock Her Up happening so I can go back to talking about sports and work and shit.
>and use our by now extremely powerful meme magic against the Chinese communists

>drug companies are allowed to sell their product at whatever price they want.

right, so when you ask hey when will the generic of this be ready the pharmacist looks at you all stupid and says never

fucking scumbags

>However we still don't have conclusive proof that he's not a deep state shill... so I'm still wary about giving public backing to him.
Understandable, because it's the best 4D chess play to date, but ask yourself, why do you think he may be a deep state shill? If he were, what is he actually going to find? Manafort financial crimes? It's not tied to Russia so nobody cares. That Trump didn't pay taxes for years after claiming losses on his casinos? Yeah it looks bad but that has nothing to do with Russia. Even he were a deep state shill, he won't be able to produce any evidence that can hurt Trump enough to get him removed from office because no such evidence exists. Trump as a person may not be everyone's cup of tea, but he's not dirty.

>wary about giving public backing to him.

the only one who will get public backing at this point will speak the truth and arrest the guilty

>le 43D underwater chess xD
>ur a shill cuz u dont believe in da god emprahs 4D strategy
and now we all know you need to go back to plebbit newfag.

>why do you think he may be a deep state shill?
because you don't get into his position without having a heavy duty blackmail file yourself, so all these people have to play along, the only thing that can change the script is public outcry

If you've read the article and conducted your own research, and still feel this way, then there's nothing else I can do for you. Just wait and watch, user. Also, 4D chess isn't a meme. Maybe it's a dumb name for it, but Trump has a strategy. Clearly you don't understand it.

He did have a heavy duty blackmail file against him. Trump pardoned him and everyone else on the team who could've been blackmailed.

>If he were, what is he actually going to find?
The "you can indict a ham sandwich" line springs to mind. Bill ended up being impeached based upon something that had nothing to do with the original investigation.

Also, the fact that the media are so pro-Mueller. This means that their masters believe that he is out to get Trump by any means necessary. Trump has to have tricked ALL of them.

Certainly would be the biggest 4D chess play to date.

Right. And Mueller will get it if he suddenly announces he's going after the Dems. But I'm not a retarded SJW so I'm not prepared to put my full faith in to a narrative before I've seen some kind of evidence, like all those idiots did with >MUH RUSSIA. I know the Mueller /ourguy/ narrative is not absurd, but we don't have proof yet. I hope it's right though.

Bill was impeached by getting caught in a perjury trap (in all fairness, he dug his own grave). Perjury traps are usually how witch hunts become successful. Trump is smart enough to avoid this. That's a big reason why he's always so vague when he speaks. The media's support of Mueller was designed and Trump did trick all of them. The media are predictable. People who are predictable are easy to manipulate. They just follow shiny objects and act like they have horse blinders on. They're so blinded by their hate for him that they can led down any rabbit hole that Trump creates.

Is his strategy failing at almost every turn? If it is, he's doing a great job.

Trump got himself into this Mueller mess out of sheer incompetence.

Yeah, but I mean the perjury trap is just one of the ways he could end up Jewed.

And I agree that Trump has played the media like a fiddle for the past 2 years. And the more he gets away with, the more enraged they get.

But still, it's just such a big fucking play. If that's what he's doing and he pulls this off, he may unironically go down as the greatest President in history.

Read the thread, and if you really care about the issue, read the article and the links within it. Mueller works for Trump. He was with him in the White House the day before he was appointed by Rosenstein as Special Counsel. Trump is not incompetent. He's a political genius.

>Trump has played the media like a fiddle for two years
He still is.

As crazy as this sounds, I am worried that very powerful people and organizations are working with China to push NK into war so that this can get sidelined.

I did, it's all reaching with no evidence. What does Mueller being in the White House have to do with anything?

On some level, of course.

I hope you're right and we can have a major happening soon where HRC, Podesta and some Obama lieutenant go down.

Look at Mueller's team. It's designed to prosecute an international criminal organization, not election misconduct. Trump wanted to have one last word in person with Mueller before he started the official investigation. They still talk.
usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/08/08/donald-trump-exchanged-private-messages-special-counsel-mueller/547917001/

Checked, and I hope this is true. I wonder what the timeline is like for the upcoming events? Will this whole NK be a distraction and the deep state carries on? How long until Mueller reveals his real investigation and BTFO's the DNC? Weeks? Months? Years?

I think the media have to know the jig is up. That's why you haven't heard muh Russia 24/7 from CNN recently. Guaranteed they're keeping a close eye on DWS/Hillary et al and making sure they don't leave the country.

I voted for Trump with the expectation there would be serious entertainment broadcasted from the white house. I haven't been disappointed in that aspect.

Please, what makes this team tailor made to take down "international criminal organizations?" They're prosecutors or Mueller's buddies from his old law firm. One of the guys was the Enron Task Force for example. They're trained to look for fishy ties and have experience in government investigations. There's nothing specific to an international crime organization on this team.

This quenched the thirst OP. Thanks.

To clarify, you have a guy that was on Enron, another that was on Watergate, one that took down Ponzi schemes, a former FBI chief of staff, and on and on. Seems pretty alright to me.

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As for the North Korea issue, it's very possible that the deep state/Dem lobbyists are trying to turn China against Trump. Just today they warned that they would retaliate to an American preemptive strike. That would be a worst case scenario and I honestly don't know how that situation would play out. It's definitely a distraction, though. The media has been chipping out and reporting that NK had miniaturized nukes like it was breaking news, but it wasn't. The Washington Post reported that same story in 2013.

As for the timeline, it was reported by multiple outlets yesterday that Hillary was offered a plea bargain in return for pleading guilty, so it might happen soon. See: His team is made up of people who have strong Dem connections and know exactly which crimes were committed. If Russia hacked the election, where are the cyber security experts? Why haven't they seized the DNC server that was allegedly hacked? If one of Trump's bank accounts had received payments from Russian banks they would have known about it after a day's worth of investigation. Just connect the dots. His team is built to expose and take down the Clinton Foundation/DNC.

The former FBI chief of staff did cybersecurity after his tenure for one. There's one that has Dem ties, and all she did was work for the same law firm that Mueller did. That same law firm defended Clinton in one of her cases and she was on it. Like I said, you're reaching.

This is high-quality shilling. Congratulations, we're giving you an extra shift next week.

It's a tantalizing prospect, but I'll believe it when I see it. And I say that not as a criticism of Trump, he's been as good as one could hope. Better than Obama easily.

They also don't have the server because why would they need it? This isn't one of those hacking movies, how would it help with the investigation?

I'm trying to find the article with an in-depth bio of every team member, but (((Google))) seems to have buried it. I'll keep looking but if any anons have it (it was posted here a couple weeks ago) please post it. It's not just about Dem ties specifically. It's about Clinton ties. For example, Comey personally delivered uranium to the Russians during the Uranium One scandal. He rose to prominence while clearing Bill Clinton of wrongdoing in either the Caribbean or the Balkans toward the end of his administration. The team is made up of people who in one way or another had to break the law to cover up for the Clintons/Obama.

You need the physical server to provide a second verification of Russian digital fingerprints.

>Russian digital finger prints

Hackers don't leave traces like that. They know who hackers are by their methods, not by any traces they leave. It's a server, not a murder scene, why would hacking it leave something that's traceable to them?

I found a list pretty fast on Google. On Bloomberg behind a paywall, and on Business Insider without one.

Also,

>Comey delivered uranium to the Russians personally

What conspiracy sites have you been going on?

As to all of them having to break the law, no. Most of them haven't even worked ob a Clinton case. They're known for other things that I've already mentioned.

I wish this were true, but I don't believe it. If the trump wants to go after it he has to get sessions to do it. He would have to make it happen.

Apologies. It was Mueller who delivered the uranium.
thenewamerican.com/usnews/foreign-policy/item/26617-mueller-s-role-in-delivering-uranium-to-russians-raises-questions

Correct. The fingerprints are methods, not unique physical traces like an actual fingerprint.
cnn.com/2017/01/02/politics/digital-fingerprints-russia-hacking/index.html

(((Coincidentally))), the CIA has a tool that allows it to put Russian, and other, digital fingerprints (copy their methods to hide their identity) on hacks that they themselves conduct. Really activates my almonds.

See Trump and Sessions are joined at the hip and always have been

Please archive or screenshot
>cnn com/2017/01/02/politics/digital-fingerprints-russia-hacking/index.html
unvis.it/cnn.com/2017/01/02/politics/digital-fingerprints-russia-hacking/index.html

Here's the Vault 7 link about the CIA capability
usatoday.com/story/news/2017/03/07/wikileaks-cia-hacking-group-umbrage-stockpiled-techniques-other-hackers/98867462/

Sorry Nordbro I'm just working quickly

>>Comey delivered uranium to the Russians personally
>What conspiracy sites have you been going on?
uranium sample was delivered to russia by Comey needed for proof of origin of refined uranium that was stolen from russia.
>pile of uranium ends up in wrong place, U.S. finds out and confiscates whole pile.

*Mueller, not Comey. That was my mistake. See

I sit corrected
thanks for info

Mueller delivered a 10 g sample of Russian uranium confiscated from smugglers. Georgia was also a part of this transfer because it took place there. Try a real news site.

And again, having the server wouldn't help the FBI. Nothing in that article suggests that it would.

The last point is speculation.

i want to believe, but i just think Mueller is an establishment cunt and going to protect the corrupt establishment at all costs and target only Trump and its going to be horrible. sigh

This is more plausible.

There has to be a little speculation in any investigation. If things appear a certain way, they may be a certain way. Having the server would absolutely help the FBI. A second piece of evidence bolsters the evidence that the NSA has. You're getting too into the weeds on one tiny aspect of this whole thing though. Look at the big picture and connect the dots. You seem like you didn't read the article and like you don't know how Trump fights. You're right that the FBI doesn't need the server to recommend indictments to the AG. That's because there are plenty of other crimes out there.

Blackmail is blackmail. Even if Mueller didn't agree to play ball when Trump was inaugurated, Trump/Sessions could blackmail him with the same thing the Clintons did and force him to investigate them.

And now you're just moving to "connect the dots." That's the thing, there's nothing to connect here. Trump fired Comey, which made it look like he was covering something up. Doesn't matter if he actually was covering something up, it still looked bad because Rosentein was involved in the firing and Sessions was recused, so Rosentein got Mueller, a former head of the FBI, to investigate.

That's it. You're not connecting the dots, you're grasping for something that isn't there and connecting disparate things that aren't related or just ignoring facts. I read the article. It's nonsense.

We'll just have to agree to disagree then. We both have our own implicit biases and thought processes. I'm giving you the best I can, but we're on different wavelengths. Time will reveal which one of us is right.

So by this standard, if a crook had been elected expect the mafia?

I'll the the circus thank you. I'd rather be entertained than victimized.

>Clinton plea bargin
Literal fake news
snopes.com/was-hillary-clinton-offered-a-plea-deal-in-server-investigation-in-august-2017/

I hope it is indeed fake news. I want to see her locked up.

So there is literally so much stuff to sift through, that they've been working on it since March and it's still in the works? Damn, shit must run deep.

It runs deeper than anyone realizes and it's all connected

Double checked, I suppose. Are you referring to Seth Rich, Awan, Clinton Foundation, Pizzagate, etc all connected into one big shitshow that will be released for all to see the truth? Now that would be a hell of a nuke.

Why don't you admit that you're just wrong and all of your "connect-the-dot" bullshit is just bullshit?
>trump-voters

1) Politicians on both sides are corrupt
2) People are only outraged by the other side's lies

At the end of the day, the winner is whoever holds power. This is not a battle that will be won by whoever tells the truth. Both sides have shown that truth is not a requirement for their support.
I don't understand why people are debating what is and isn't truth. For trump supporters trump lies for them. For Hillary supporters Hillary lies for them.

I was referring to every major economic, national security, environmental, etc policy.
See the below for an example of this:
>why don't you just admit that you're just wrong
I'm not trying to suggest that anyone in this thread is wrong. I'm just proposing a hypothesis and offering evidence to support it. I'm doing my best to debate it and people will make of it what they will

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>Trump lies
Yes, but understand how and why he lies. When he lies, Trump doesn't lie to the American people. He lies through through the American people to the establishment to mask his true intentions.

Both of your are fucking retarded if you think anything Mueller does right now is related to Clinton and not Trump. Every single member of the investigation has a hate-boner for Trump and the expertise to take him down once and for all.

LOCK HER UP! I know the President will save the world

yeah, that's why he raided manafort's house.

Every single member of the investigation could have been buried by Sessions back in January if that's what Trump wanted. That's not an effective way to drain the swamp though, and would've ultimately proved futile. You need to turn the lower level guys in order to prosecute the puppet masters.