Dunning-Kruger Effect

151 IQ here. I have always been curious about the Dunning-Kruger effect and just how common it is among the double-digit IQ demographic. Given the number of Blumpf supporters on Sup Forums, I thought this might be a good place to get some answers.

Are you below 100, Sup Forums? If so, tell me what you think about your own intellectual capacity.

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Trump won the college educated White vote.

My IQ is 88
HAIL HORTLER

142 IQ user here. I have long said that it's pointless to tell an idiot that they're an idiot. Not like they're going to stop being an idiot.

ICool 380 here.
pol is for smarts so we all her geinous. No smart-man places needed juss pol

No doubt that is true. What I really would like to know is does the average idiot know that he is an idiot?

K-mart tier bait

...to which you replied. Tell us about your estimation of your own mental capacity......

>hurr durr i'm smart because i say so hurr durr
>i'm superior because i said i'm smart on Sup Forums hurr durr

Probably in the low 150s

>Dunning-Kruger effect
>the corollary to the Dunning–Kruger effect indicates that persons of high ability tend to underestimate their relative competence, and erroneously presume that tasks that are easy for them to perform also are easy for other people to perform.

Is this why every time I write an essay I think that I'm doing the whole thing wrong and constantly second guess my work because there is no way they would assign something this easy????

You sound like exactly the type I was looking for. Have you sat an IQ test? If so, what was the result?

The big trouble with dumb bastards is that they are too dumb to believe there is such a thing as being smart.

>he thinks a 151 IQ is good
It's a matter of perspective, user. 151 falls farther to the right on the number line than what you're comparing it--true--but does that make it better?
Look at it this way, a 100 IQ occurs first. Therefore, it is superior, since it's in first place. Consider yourself deconstructed, oppressor :)

150 is online iq test zone lil nigga

Could be, could be an overdose of order meeting the imperfection of the human attempt.

>psychologytoday.com/blog/head-in-the-cloud/201701/the-dunning-kruger-president
>Named for Cornell psychologist David Dunning and his then-grad student Justin Kruger


>Cornell

Nah.

I take no more pride in it than I do my shoe size. I'm just curious because I can't get inside the head of another person.

Nope. Stanford Binet, 80 question multi-choice with pen and paper.

Can you get their head inside of you though?

one of those freak gate kids here.

I do assume everyone should do what I can do with minimal assistance. I'm a father now and holy shit did that help open my eyes that maybe I've been a dick all my life to people because they genuinely were too fucking stupid do do whatever it was competently.

On another note, why can't they just give everyone a series of tests throughout life. If you fail basics, immediate sterilization. Welcome worker bee, that's called a SHOVEL move that pile of shit over there.

Pride in your race, culture and heritage is practical, not just blind loyalty.

Fuck you autocorrect. I was considering a one time appeal, possible non-permanent methods for those right on the cusp.

fpbp

>On another note, why can't they just give everyone a series of tests throughout life. If you fail basics, immediate sterilization. Welcome worker bee, that's called a SHOVEL move that pile of shit over there.

I'm ok with this. I think a great deal of the world's problems can be traced back to tards.

We already have hardcore applied eugenics for the working class

Ever been trained at a job by a literal moron. For days? It's fucking insufferable.

Lol at the retards who think they are smart. Good stuff. Keep at it.

>what are liberals

If an IQ tests lacks any question about telling others your IQ as a qualifier of opinion, then the test is incomplete bullshit.

careful not to cut yourself on that edge

IQ 154 here.

You're projecting.

fpbp

>Multi choice IQ test

That's as bad as a meme online test. Your IQ would have to be

121 here. I'm smarter than idiots, but not as smart as geniuses. I'm basically in an intellectual no man's land.

If only it were true.

I'm sensing a double-digit poster here......

thread is cancer, op kill yourself

Given the number of posts so far, and the views on top of that, it is inevitable that we have had some sub-100 Sup Forumstards visit this thread. But not one has address the question. Interesting.

That's the test Mensa uses. If it is so easy, why aren't you a member?

Nothing keeps the tards from breeding like welfare and a gubmint surrogate father

I've never taken a reputable IQ test, But I'm comfortable to assume my IQ rests in the 85+ 95- range.

If It's common and likely so, It'd be pretty understandable, Incompetence to conceive Incompetence would be a likely quality of those who lack the intelligence to otherwise perceive biases or perhaps just humility.

It's also possible that ego being more prevalent in today's people is another cause of ignorance of someones self conflated traits. Whilst I'd say intelligence is more easily proven through accurate self assessment, It may also be measured by ones ability to not let their IQ get to there head.

Point being, A proven fool has an excuse for his inflated ego, whist the proven intellectual does not. In that case I believe I've less concern with the dunning-Kruger effect on the stupid, And more on the intellectually gifted, Many smart people are socially retarded for example, should they not be able to remedy this problem?

How are these not data-mining threads??

>I've never taken a reputable IQ test, But I'm comfortable to assume my IQ rests in the 85+ 95- range.

Your post would suggest that you are the corollary mentioned here >Many smart people are socially retarded for example, should they not be able to remedy this problem?

It's probably due to a lack of practice due to being drawn to things other than socialising.

What do you base that assumption on? I realize the ability to formulate is not always the best indicator for intellectual ability, but your sentences seem way too coherent for a middle eastern tier IQ. Is it just your general academic performance? Or are you maybe just placing a good old hook in the water?

IQ tests are worthless m8, your 151 doesn't mean much besides that you speak excellent English, don't you know why people with complicated home language like the Chinese trend to score so high and people with simpler home language like Africans trend to score low?

Someone has never sat an IQ test, nor studied Chinese. I studied German and Chinese for five years each. Mandarin is not complicated grammatically. It just requires a good memory. German is more complicated.

I thought colleges are liberal brainwashing facilities?

If you use your IQ score in arguments you are a fucking retard. It doesn't matter what number you say, you're fucking retarded.

i have been tested before at a low score, like 93 or something... idk what to think i don't really know how it affects me that badly, i just do the best with what god/nature gave me.

Still waiting for a tested tard to address the question. Come on, Blumpfkins, don't be shy.

]np,bcxzckl,

chinese grammar deals with conspecifics rather than generalized rules

for example, you do not say a persob has free will. you say the person chose freely. their grammar is obsessed with defining the boundaries od reality

its harder than you think

chinese grammar is like learning classic epistemology

east asian grammar defines the boundaries of what you knowx how certain you are, and how you know iy

not sure theres anything quite like it in the west. their literature classes focus on these, whole ours focus on plays and stories

>151 IQ
>Can't spell the U.S. president's name

hahaha nice try, nigger.

IQ is a Jewish scam and you're a moron if you think it has any validity whatsoever.

>Yes goy, the only mark of intelligence is if you can put shapes in order! Disregard all of the outliers we can't measure like business intelligence or artistic intelligence! Heh heh heh

How fucking bluepilled do you have to be to believe this shit

i have told you that i have been tested shortly after highschool, in a community college. i do not consider myself intelligent and i only think that i try to aspire to my highest potential. what more do you want...

How retarded are you actually? You never even defined what the Dunning-Kruger effect is.

saged

youre an idiot. pattern recognition is absokutely the essential baseline for all neurological function and declines are parsimoniously explained by genetic mutations, race, inheritance, invitro interference, etc

I have a 120 IQ and actually consider myself retarded by own life observation.

I presumed that you were capable of performing a google search. Clearly I was wrong, and clearly you are the sort of person I was looking for. So how about answering the question?

>Are you below 100, Sup Forums? If so, tell me what you think about your own intellectual capacity.

>It's probably due to a lack of practice due to being drawn to things other than socialising.

Yes, and in the case of social skills those who lack them of a high IQ could in practice learn, However the stupid lacks the intellect to learn beyond his intellectual compacity.

Like teaching an animal, his intellect can only go to the limits it's able to conceive. In the case of superiority, we cannot conceive of intellect greater then our own, I could not fathom the inner workings of a math genius, but what level of intellect does it require to see self incompetence. I'm no means smart, I struggled in school (actually found shit hard. not easy and bored) And I would say I was easily a very average kid in terms of self inflated ego.

If so, and presuming I'm of lower IQ, It would seem lower IQ is not the prevalent quality of DKE, It more likely is simply a lack of practice of critical thinking. most who are told they're not too bright bring about themselves a bubble of denial, to protect themselves from anyone ever knowing how dumb the are.

I'd say average people, are more likely just projecting from DKE because of the trauma of feeling incompetent through their schooling years. and that If relieved of scrutiny, could become comfortable with there lack of intellectual strength

Truth is, I kinda feel the same way.

Taleb's idea of IYIs is better, faggot.

I have an IQ of 89

D-K is about people with little knowledge overestimating their competence, Muhammed. Like you with your 105 IQ thinking being in three digits somehow makes you automatically more competent and knowledgable in everything in comparison with someone with an IQ of 95. The funny thing about the D-K effect is that in interwebs discussions it's commonly cited by people who it applies to, in fact their citation of it is often an outstanding example of the D-K effect in practice.

nope, jewish trick.
completely meaningless and rigged so they will always have the highest iq.
Men did the same thing with the original test when we stole it from the Nazis. Added sportsball questions to the damn thing originally to try to shut women down.
The original iq test is not meant to measure high intelligence. It's meant to measure whether someone is retarded or not. It has no other usage.

Really? That's good to know.

So if I score high on an IQ test and go to a job interview, I'm glad that I'll be able to get the job because I have such a high IQ.

Oh wait. That won't happen. I'm confusing that with the part where they laugh me out of the room because IQ is a crock of shit.

>there are actually people who brag about their high IQ
>there are actually people who think scoring high on a subjective test somehow makes them smarter than others
You dumb goys will fall for anything apparently.

dunning kruger is the phenomenon where the lower a persons iq is the more highly they rate their own abilities

ironically for op is is a surfeit of conacientiousness and much more prominent among liberals. jt is a fundamental neurological trait, known as the big 5, and plays directly into whether one is liberal or conservativr

liberals do not happen to be less conscientious... they are liberal because they sought out the smug and arrogant ideology

Someone is a tad testy. Bad news on the test, I presume?

youre an idiot. jews dont even have the highest iq. ashkenazi are 106, anglicans and quakers are 109, koreans are 108, japanese cities are 109

pattern recognition is the baseline of all intrlligence. there is no EXISTENCE of cognition without pattern recognition

>testy

Here's another word you might like: circumcircle.

I don't think I'm that smart. I can remember a lot of random facts and regurgitate science crap but I know that doesn't make me smart.

>151 iq
>thinks democracy is real

are we getting slid?

if some jew posts about the reality of racial differences are you going to start shilling for blabk slate?

kys

You did nothing to disprove my post.

If having an IQ is so prestigious and scientific, I should be able to get any job in the world that I want solely for having a higher IQ than someone else.
Tell me why I shouldn't be able to do this if IQ is so important.

Academic performance, I'm dyslexic and hated school, I was careless, never sore the point. But I did on occasion try to prove my abilities only to find I sucked, I never understood shit others did with ease, and It fucked me up as a kid.

I hated people seeing my stupidity, it made me feel out of control and destined for a horrid life. so I would be comfortable saying I would do anything to inflate my intellect around others. at first this would be classic DKE I'd get myself into arguments without any experience in reasoning, and learnt the hard way.

But I think it was not all wasted energy, as instead of building only an illusory wall of intellect and avoiding actual constructive criticism, I started to realize the power of critical thinking. I questioned everything I thought I knew, and took every blow to my ego as a tool for further progress.

I'm a product of the average intellectual getting to his more capable point, there is always room for improvement but most of us just don't realize our potential, I was a victim of what I'd call intellectual oppression, based on nothing more then IQ

I've taken about 3 free online ones in the past year and got 125-130 on each.
Remember, libertarians > dems >repubs

My IQ is 120 but my verbal cognition scores well above the 98th percentile.

I understand Trump, it seems he has a high IQ but was not groomed into a well-spoken academic. In the business arena it's perhaps more advantageous to hide your IQ, rather than flaunt it.

iq testing was outlawed in america for employmebt under griggs vs duke you nigger

korea and japan DO use iq tests and googlr uses something extremely similar to an iq test to defray legal risk

you stupid nigger

All the fucking aussies in this thread. No surprise they are autistic and probably really think they are superior to most people they encounter on a daily basis "because muh iq".

The "effect" you discuss is not limited to iq. You would know this if you read the whole study and discussions about it. Just because you have an iq of 150 doesnt mean you arent a fucking idiot compared to someone who has experience -and therefore real knowdlege- in an area you do not, even if that person is a janitor. This is why academia is full of really intelligent people who have their heads so far up their asses they have trouble understanding how little they know of many subjects they pontificate about.

For example, what does a limp wristed, effete literature professor who cannot even change his own oil have to offer to discussions about WW1 poetry written by soldiers in the trenches other than an erudite, but purely abstract and distanced reading? He has never gotten his hands dirty with even the most menial manual labor and and cannot possibly begin to understand how little he knows of the spirit of the authors and works, despite all his readings.

Stupid people don't know they are stupid, but stupid "intelligent" people are even more deluded because they have enough intelligence to think that what they know about certain subjects extrapolates to other areas they know nothing about.


Tl;dr - OP is a giant faggot

But I thought IQ was important though. Why was it outlawed then?
Please help a brainlet understand. :/

STEM degree from a top twenty. Passed classes with very high fail rates.
Never taken an IQ test and I have no desire to.
I voted Trump.

You live in an echo chamber and don't realize it.

He said outlawed for employers.

As in employers can't deliberately discriminate based on IQ tests.

iq is neurological capacity

a high iq soldier with the same build as a low iq soldier is more useful

the airforce battery they give potential pilots is an iq test because only sufficiently high iq individuals can make effective pilots

army snipers need to be able to do equations for wind resistance in their head

151? Prove it.

And Trump might have the highest IQ of any president ever. He is definitely over 150.

>Only credential is a self-proclaimed numeric value
>Thinks he's an expert
Looking at a mirror should get you your Dunning-Kruger example

So wouldn't that render IQ worthless then? What is the point of scoring high if you can't use it to any advantage?

Is it possible....no, it can't be....but maybe....is it possible that IQ is....no, it's too crazy to even think............kike bullshit?

160 IQ reporting in. What's up over they're in the US

My test took 6 hours a day for a week. Got 131 which my academic career will attest is quite reasonably accurate.
T. Actual successful person

4u.

I am a poor 116-135, I hope that since I am young (older than 12 but younger than 18) I Amy be able to become that goshdarne smart

above 150 is unlikely. that is feynmann level iq.

every sd in iq increases capability exponentially. 70 is a high level downs syndrome person. someone with 95 iq cant read a chart without training. 120 is probably yhe threahold to invent algebra. 145 or so is inconsequential physicist. 160 is the discoverer of quantum meanics and computation.

137. Tall, broad shouldered, blond Marine war vet.

Get on my level.

I've scored 125+ on some online tests, but those are online.
Personally I feel dumb as fuck because I can't just have numbers appear in my head with math, especially smaller numbers lmao. I don't know how smart I am.

the government outlawed racial discrimination too

is race kike invented bullshit you jewish shill

> 151 iq
weak ass bait, yawn.

So then tell me....if having an IQ doesn't get you a job and doesn't get you money, then what function does it serve?
This is a pretty simple question you have yet to answer.

i tends be be stable around age 15 or so and maxes out at age 18 at which point you begin slowly dying

if you cant do numbers in your head i regret to inform you you are probably not anywgere near 125. 90 to 110 is reasonable depending kn your other capacities

151 IQ and you still post shit quality 9kb images, what a fucking waste of a mind